>>213519446 >Christian Slater
Every time I’m reminded of his existence it baffles me that anyone would have him as the lead to a movie. He’s like a little bitch version of Kevin Costner. Like how Matthew Broderick is a little bitch version of John Cusack.
>>213519452
At some point the series got hi-jacked by Christian Fundamentalists, and, I shit you not, there is a plot point that the world is only 6000 years old in like Land Before Time 7 or 8
>>213519482
That explains why I thought it was some random movie and that American Psycho II didn’t exist. Maybe I’m just a little American Psycho myself.
>>213519395
The original was never about being "deep" or clever it's a coming of age story about depression, I think S. Darko carries that weight just not as well
>>213519606
It's unreal how much movies could make 20 years ago, even released straight to DVD. Pretty sure The Lost Boys 2 made over $3.5 million USD in its first two weeks alone of a straight-to-DVD release in 2008. I guess it also counts as a good candidate for the thread too.
>>213520248
Jesus christ dude you just activated almonds from 20+ years ago.
I have a rue morgue magazine in my spare room before the magazine turned globohomo with that movie as the front cover.
always amazed by how many movies I find or re-remember every few years.
I actually really enjoyed Waiting 2
It didn't try to be anything different than what it was, with desperate miserable characters and extremely silly jokes.
Cast was good, too.
>>213520872 >three films about brawling and MMA fighting >final one is about some kind of sex slavery ring where women are forced to fight each other to the death or something
>>213519442
I'm 43 and I've still never seen that. The Lost World was bad enough. My first real Spielberg disappointment. I do want to see 1941 though.
>>213519491
Imagine being such a flaming faggot you don't see the appeal in putting Christian Slater in your movie. Get the fuck out of here you faggot
>>213521390
The first Vampires was so shit it already felt like a cheap sequel downgraded from a better film. I can only imagine what this one is like.
>>213519880 >>213526382
This movie is insanely bad, not that the original was very good, but this one is so gay and have a fever dream aura, it feels more like Suspiria than anything. Also Sly got his brother to make the soundtrack, Frank Stallone, and it's fucking awful too.
>>213524629 >2008 >original came in 83
Goddamn stupid way to spend movie, I hope it was money laundering scheme. The trailer looks like some Power Rangers in Space tier production
>>213529381
I watched this one, really hope that the cast could save it since the trailer doesn't look bad but the final thing is way worse than a made for TV movie, it's just cheap and dumb.
>>213529659
3 has Sam Neil as Damian and it's kinda ok, it's also the end of the trilogy, after that it's a reboot with a little girl iirc but I never watched those.
>>213523132
My mom saw this and liked it. Then she was the orginal and thought the sequel was shit. Then she saw Seven Samurai and thought Magnificent Seven was shit. Amusing.
>In April 1985, Kelly McGillis, Cathy Moriarty, Dennis Hopper, Joe Pesci, and Harvey Keitel had all been cast, ready to shoot the film that month.[6] The following month, the sets had been built and filming was ready to begin, but Towne's lack of confidence in Evans's acting ability exploded into a final argument when (Producer and Actor) Robert Evans objected to having to get a 1940s-style haircut (mostly due to recent plastic surgery scars that would be visible). Four days after the confrontation, the plug was pulled.
>The Two Jakes is a 1990 American neo-noir mystery film and the sequel to the 1974 film Chinatown.[4] Directed by and starring Jack Nicholson, who reprises his role of J.J. “Jake” Gittes from the first film, the cast also features Harvey Keitel, Meg Tilly, Madeleine Stowe, Richard Farnsworth, Frederic Forrest, David Keith, Rubén Blades, Tracey Walter and Eli Wallach. Also reprising their roles from Chinatown are Joe Mantell, Perry Lopez, James Hong, and, in a brief voice-over, Faye Dunaway. The musical score for the film is by Van Dyke Parks, who also appears as a prosecuting attorney.
>Set a decade after the first film, The Two Jakes follows private investigator Gittes as he becomes embroiled in a web of corruption, adultery, and murder involving a client, also named Jake. The deeper he goes, the more he realizes the events may be related to the events surrounding Evelyn Mulwray ten years prior.
>>213532609
You made me read the full article and it gets more insane as it goes
>Because the film had not been budgeted normally due to the initial Evans–Towne–Nicholson plan, Towne approached producer Dino De Laurentiis for help in financing it. McGillis remained in the cast, with Harrison Ford set to take over as Jake Gittes and Roy Scheider attached to play the other Jake, with a tentative start date of mid-1986. At one point director John Huston, who co-starred in the original film, was rumored to be brought in as director, although Towne denied the claim. However, the constant shuffling worried Paramount, who withdrew from the distribution deal, eventually taking a $4 million loss on the film.[7]
>Briefly, The Cannon Group tried to buy the film for financing after Paramount had tried to put the film into turnaround, only for Cannon to lose the rights, which would eventually revert to Paramount.[8][9] The project was discontinued until the late 1980s, when Nicholson took on the responsibility of directing and also rewrote parts of Towne's script (which "was really only about 80% ready")
>>213533014
FUUUUCK you are right, The Prophecy is the one where Christopher Walken plays Gabriel trying to stab God in the back. Great movie, I watched the first three, didn't knew about the other two.
>>213519880
This isn't obscure. Zoomer filth. >>213529097 >not that the original was very good
Saturday Night Fever is better than your favorite movie.
>>213533671
It's kinda of a mess, you expect some guy dancing and teenage drama then BOOM, gang rape in the backsit of a car, suicide, etc. It's not a bad movie but there is a lot of fat to trim and tone to adjust.
mean girls 2, most of the bring it one after 3, and one that really makes me wonder how bad things are or a contract is to do it is bulletproof 2 which had Adam Sandler in the first and came 24 years later
>>213519404
because it's as much of a sequel to American Psycho as Hellraiser 5-8 are sequels to Hellraiser
they took an unrelated script and then added stuff from American Psycho to try and tie it in
Original was a muddled mess that tried to be half Frequency and half vaguely superhero-esque savior film
Sequel was a low budget thriller that was way better at doing what it set out to do
>>213519452 >>213519509
lmao seriously? I always assumed there was like one or two producers who started as interns on the first one and by the 4th were shepherding the entire franchise
so it was different people going forward?
>>213520199 >It's unreal how much movies could make 20 years ago, even released straight to DVD
hell the whole "Netflix should revive this cult show for a new season!" refrain that started after they picked up Arrested Development stuck around for close to a decade after that ceased to be a viable way of getting new viewers
>>213524719
It just wasn't as exciting when they escaped the second time. >>213524994
Better than the original with tawny kitaen? I'm skeptical, but will give it a chance.
>>213520872
surprisingly, none of these were produced by Universal 1440
Universal is like the only studio left who proudly shits out direct-to-DVD slop sequels of random IPs they have, I actually respect it because those movies are more or less actually fun movie night watches
>>213535709 >Better than the original with tawny kitaen? I'm skeptical, but will give it a chance.
I thought the pace was better. The protagonist was also hot
>>213521125
I didn't like how they shoehorned Justin Long's character back in just for a scene to talk about how shit his life has gone since the first movie and he tried to make something of himself
>>213519447 >>213533690
there was a moment during the late 00s where they tried making him a movie star, same way they tried with Taylor Kitsch and Jai Courtney
he was the guy from Frank Miller's version of The Spirit as Sin City, although that movie gets bonus points for getting prime Eva Mendes naked
>>213535694
this one is more tragic as they got Edward Zwick in to make it as a director-for-hire to try and get out of director jail, like what Cruise did for McQuirrie on the first one
it ended up feeling bland as shit
>>213535600 >Abe vainly commits suicide after a gunman kills his wife and son. When he gets up in a hospital, he begins to identify people about to die. He tries to save them. But he has to pay a costly price.
With Nathan Fillion as the lead. He just becomes that irl cat that could smell who was about to die in a hospital.
>>213536022 >although that movie gets bonus points for getting prime Eva Mendes naked
Also prime ScarJo as sexy nazi officer was something else, goddamn
>>213536648
While Deep Blue Sea 2 was a huge flop, Deep Blue Sea 3 is narrowly considered to be the best in the Deep Blue Sea franchise. Even better than the first one.
>>213519491
Slater is amazing and would've been a huge star to this day if he was like 5 years younger to ride the 90s heart-throb train with Johnny Depp, DiCaprio, Brad Pitt. Ditto for Matt Dillon and Kevin Bacon. A lot of great actors from the 80s missed out, fortunately Cruise still managed to break through.
>>213524965
This isn't even the only sequel. There's one with Ralph Fiennes which is actually what caused him to get the Nazi role in Schindler's List. Most of these shitty sequels are explainable like Wild Things 2 or Dirty Dancing Havana cause the originals were shit. But Lawrence of Arabia is routinely listed as one of the greatest films of all time. Why anybody would wanna try to get money following it up is retarded
>>213533124 >>Because the film had not been budgeted normally due to the initial Evans–Towne–Nicholson plan, Towne approached producer Dino De Laurentiis for help in financing it. McGillis remained in the cast, with Harrison Ford set to take over as Jake Gittes and Roy Scheider attached to play the other Jake, with a tentative start date of mid-1986. At one point director John Huston, who co-starred in the original film, was rumored to be brought in as director, although Towne denied the claim. However, the constant shuffling worried Paramount, who withdrew from the distribution deal, eventually taking a $4 million loss on the film.
rofl this sounds kino as hell, imagine bailing out of that, but I'm glad Jack returned (surprised he touched up Towne's own script, which Siskel & Ebert praised highly). Imagine if Cannon had attached someone like Jean-Claude Van Damme as Jake.
>>213538644
I remember them doing a direct-to-DVD sequel to A Christmas Story (before the one on HBO Max that had an adult Ralphie played by the same guy) and it was so crassly commercial that it was literally advertised as "A Christmas Story 2 - The Official Sequel"
no I'm not fucking kidding
>>213538772
when you have one or two flops in a row, studios stop trusting you with projects regardless of any context with if the movie was good or if you ran a good production
Christopher McQuarrie talked about how after his directoral debut flopped studios wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole unless it was for rewrite work, it took Tom Cruise liking working with him and hiring him for Jack Reacher 1 to get his career back on track. Cruise had the authority to do that because he produces his own projects. He tried doing the same thing for Zwick and it didn't work
>>213538644 >There's one with Ralph Fiennes
That one is not bad, surely is not on the same level as the first but it's a good movie on it's own. What happened to Lawrence after his adventures is interesting to a point and that movie is a serviceable epilogue to tell of his years of depression and how his search for a new meaning in life. It's not easy to go from a living legend to a nobody in his own country, I guess dying in his last battle would have been much better. The name of that movie is A Dangerous Man: Lawrence After Arabia if anyone is interested.
>>213539388
Those are quick cash movies. The first one bring some money in theaters, they assembly the sequel pretty fast with little money and a ton of people go watch them expecting the same quality as the first, this was actually the rule for sequels for a long time, shit like The Exorcist 2 being peak shitty sequel. I once heard a critic saying that what really changed people's mind about sequels was The Godfather part 2, before that the idea of a sequel being equal or better than the first one was simply insane.
>>213528914
It's 2010: The Year We Make Contact. It's ok and give you some answers but it's more a sequel to 2001 the book than the movie so it's hard to place said answers. Arthur C. Clarke wrote 4 books: 2001, 2010, 2061 and then 3001. Each one slightly disregards the previous (Clarke acknowledges this) so they are a mess by themselves. Like I said it's not bad but honestly it was better if it was never made.
>>213540278 >It's got Roy Scheider and John Lithgow
Yes but none of them has time to shine, the whole thing is not bad but has this sci-fi/terror B-movie production that your brain simply can't connect it to 2001.
>>213540773
He had been in a lot of stuff but Next of Kin and Krull are the only titles I recognize. I can't imagine his name would have actually been a bigger draw.
>>213540928
Yeah, and Excalibur and The Mission, but he was hardly some tentpole leading man. Obviously Neeson would explode past Campbell soon after, but I'd think that Evil Dead 1 and 2 had enough of a cult following when Darkman came out that Liam Neeson couldn't have been unarguably the bigger box office draw.
Still, I don't think it mattered much. Darkman wasn't sold on the star power so much as the concept.
>>213539388
basically if you're not an A-list actor there's no shame in doing these types of movies anymore. they don't get advertising and they're just dumped out on streaming, so you don't have to humiliate yourself on a marketing trail. that and basically anyone under the age of 35 has an attitude of "get that bag" towards anything but the most debasing/embarrassing stuff
>>213529682
This one was still hot but doesn't seem to have a non-interlaced version in existence.
3rd movie wasn't very good and had the gay kid from Dawson's Creek.
Do you recall the 2006 film The Marine, starring John Cena before he went into acting properly and was just a wrestler in a WWE film? Maybe you don't, but it was in cinemas.
Well there was more of them. They weren't in cinemas
>>213521705
literally the only thing I recall from this entire film is thinking "hey that girl is cute" and looking out for her in the future, still going strong now
>>213538897 >Christopher McQuarrie talked about how after his directoral debut flopped studios wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole unless it was for rewrite work
I really like Way of the Gun and the first Jack Reacher was solid, the sequel was awful though. On paper it looks like it should be good, it had a hefty budget and talented director.
>>213519322 (OP)
I swear I remember seeing someone else trying to make a sequel to Showgirls and it looked dark and badly lit, with no returning cast members, and there was a fight over which was the official sequel.
>>213519322 (OP)
I actually know probably about 70% of the movies ITT even if I never watched them. Browsing video and dvd store aisles was a favourite pastime of mine.
>>213525712 >>213520768
In case you're interested pic rel is the real deal straight from Dennis Hopper himself. Not a direct continuation for obvious reasons, more of a spiritual sequel set a decade later. While not as revolutionary as the original it's definitely worth a watch. The movie recently got a 4k restoration for it's 40th anniversary.
>>213535724
Based Anon! You might also remember her as the female lead of "Walker, Texas Ranger". Everybody remembers to it as Chuck Norris' series - not too surprisingly, let me add - but it had numerous ties to Dallas. Basically half of the fucking cast of the later seasons appeared there as guest stars.
>>213529393
It's not. There's a scene where brother of the girl on the cover tries to kill Carlito. He somehow survives that and there's ridiculous scene where Carlito tells the brother and his parents to leave the country or else he will have to kill them. It's supposed to be badass but it's just cringe just like the whole movie
