Thread 213525051

>have perfect anonymous murder tool that lets you kill anyone you want from afar in whatever method you want without even interacting with them
>still get caught

i would simply not use it

>writes down the name of every jew
>death by: scaphism

>>213525059
this, definetely satanic
in fact I would inform my priest

>>213525051 (OP)
because L is an unrealistic capeshit tier super detective. it's a children's comic book.

>>213525051 (OP)
Internet meat search engine would dox him in a week.

He wanted people to know he was doing it. He wanted to be feared so that people would stop committing crimes.

>>213525051 (OP)
Fuck off to /a/ you brown shit

>>213526226
I’m yellow

>>213525196
Per one of the rules those who use the death note can't go to neither hell or heaven after death
So it's probably not satanic, more like something in between satanic and angelic

>anime
fuck off weeb

>>213525258
To be fair, there really are people that autistic enough out there. Any look into the history of cryptography will show you just what lengths people will go to hunt you down if you give them a reason to.

>>213526778
The truth in the death note is crueler than that and is a matter of omission. It's that no one goes to heaven or hell because they don't actually exist.
It's not officially canon, but Death Parade covers this such that the afterlife is a brief window of purgatory in which it's decided if you get reincarnated or simply slip into oblivion.

>>213526180
The problem isn't just that he wanted to be known, it's that he tried to punish people for simply opposing him.

>>213525258
L is plenty realistic

You're just a brainlet

>>213525051 (OP)
Light get's caught by Near in the most ridiculous way possible. His agent tailing Mikami forges an identical copy of the Death Note in one night and somehow swaps it with the real one which is locked away in a bank.
He also deduces that Mikami is carrying out the killing's for Kira by just watching TV and instantly knowing it must be him out all the hundreds if not thousands of Kira supporters it could be.
He's also placing his faith in the fact Mikami will try writing all their names in the fake deathnote and not a scrap of paper from the real one during the final confrontation.
Can we all agree that the show's quality falls off a cliff after L dies?

>>213527199
>It's not officially canon, but Death Parade covers this such that the afterlife is a brief window of purgatory in which it's decided if you get reincarnated or simply slip into oblivion.
The actual canon, stated directly in the manga, is that everyone stops existing.

I would honestly have stopped caring about the DN and being Kira as soon as Misa came to my house the first time, because I would have plapped so many kids inside that goth womb that we would both lose our memories.

>>213525051 (OP)
Yeah, it's really crazy how they got Ted Kaczyński. If only he didn't write in an extremely specific, idiosyncratic style that allowed his family to recognize him and tip the FBI. Who would have thought being a 160 IQ genius with the perfect killing method doesn't mean you can't get caught due to other factors you neglected to take care of because of an inflated ego.

>>213525051 (OP)
>anonymous
But he didn't want to remain anonymous. In fact, he wanted the exact opposite of that.

>>213525051 (OP)
Kira fucks up within the first week by killing small time japanese criminals and cements this fuck up by killing the fake L. The rest of the show is just trying to write out of the fuck up. He actually manages to do this on several occasions and basically wins for a bit but the actual take down is pretty fucking dumb. It's a contrived story but IRL Japan would just get nuked so anything other than that is basically an asspull anyways.

>>213527555
>his family
What a bunch of faggota

Some of the things L determines are pretty obvious. He initially targeted people in Japan, and if you looked at things like timezones and cross referenced when people died the most with where the news of them was broadcast the most intensely, you'd be able to figure that out.

>>213527749
L revealing that he knows what city Kira lives in because it was a local broadcast was a slip up on L's part, Kira could've just moved to a new city or country and L would have to track him down again.

>>213525051 (OP)
Any recs for shows/films like Death Note?

>>213525051 (OP)
he did not know it was real the first time and immediately put himself at a disadvantage from the start

Just write down the name of every elected and appointed official in every NATO country and Israel

>>213525051 (OP)
Yes but the entire point of Light's character is that he was so egotistical and ambitious that he didn't just want to get rid of evil people but to be worshipped as the god of a new world. So he couldn't just remain anonymous, he WANTED to be known and infamous.
And no, this is not unrealistic because there absolutely ARE people like this in the real world.

>>213525051 (OP)
So, here's the situation in episode 2
>There is no proof that Kira exists, and many intelligence agencies are doubting it.
>If he's real, there is no proof that Kira will kill the police
>There is no proof that Kira watches TV

L finds out that Light's first killings happened in the Kanto region of Japan. So he makes up a broadcast that is intended to bait Light into killing him. He announces it as something that airs worldwide, but it's actually only aired in Kanto. He intends to air it in the other parts of the world one by one, until he manages to bait Kira and narrow down the area he must search.

What was L's plan for Kira not killing his stand-in? What if Light was really really tired this evening and slept in? Or went to fuck his girlfriend? Or was helping his mother with chores? The visible results of
>Kira decided not to kill L
and
>Kira is in Kanto, but didn't see the broadcast
and
>Kira is not in Kanto, or even Japan
are absolutely identical.

Furthermore, how exactly would airing the broadcast in the other parts of the world look like? They can't happen at the same time - that defeats the point. So when Light wakes up and watches the TV, wouldn't he see something like
>A mysterious detective named L has challeneged Kira on japanese television. Shortly after, a similar broadcast has also aired in Chubu and Kansai, then in Hokkaido. No answer has been given for why this worldwide broadcast was aired at different timeslots across Japan.

What was L's backup plan?

IIRC Ryuk mentioned that he was only hanging around as long as Light was entertaining him, so I wonder if there was ever a hypothetical ending possible where Light chills out and retires and Ryuk just leaves him without killing him.

>>213527555
Don't insult Light by comparing him to a loser failure faggot like Kasinski. Kasinski killed barely anyone, and those he did kill were innocents that didn't deserve it, and were just randoms, and he was extremely incompetent at everything he did, and the killings had nothing to do with his overall ideleology or goals.
Light, on the other hand, was very specific about who he killed and why, and had a specific goal that he spent years achieving, AND ACTUALLY PULLED IT OFF. Light was a genius that hundreds of millions of people supported for years. Kazinski was a faggot loser weirdo.

>>213528384
Ryuk can not leave Light's side without him forfeiting this notebook, he had to stay with him in the solitary - but that was because Ryuk knew that Light has some sort of a plan and wanted to see what he's going to do. If Light ever became really boring to Ryuk, he'd demand that the notebook is forfeited, or just kill him like he does in the musical.

>>213525051 (OP)
I hate how no one ever did anything interesting with the concept subsequently.
I hate even more how netflix had the chance but let Winguard fuck it up

>>213527199
>>213527502
The animated compilation film heavily implies (basically states to be honest) that Light became a Shinigami after his death.

>>213528384
Maybe, maybe not.
Light basically "won" when he wiped out L, Watari and Rem in one blow and spent five years doing nothing interesting (i.e., the true ending of Death Note), and Ryuk still hung around him that whole time, so who knows. He definitely would have killed Light rather than watch him spend the rest of his life in prison though (which the ending basically confirms).
However, if we're wondering whether Ryuk would be cool with Light basically reigning as the god of the new world for the rest of his life, ala Paul in Dune (to use a relevant current example), it's debatable. Light himself was bored because he felt no-one could challenge or equal him since L died, and Ryuk might have felt the same way and killed Light. But I feel like part of Ryuk did genuinely like Light and would have hung around even if it was just Light being in delusional god-mode because that is still way more entertaining than depressed loser failure Light in jail.

>>213528505
Not canon.

ryuk killing light is 100x better in the manga

>>213528467
The original writer did though
He made a true sequel a few years ago where basically a zoomer kid gets the Death Note and uses it to "redistribute" a ton of money to the people. This is as good as we can get for a true sequel to Death Note. And that story shows that no one and nothing will ever compare with the Light saga because Light was one in a billion, and even Ryuk seems to think this, since even this "super smart" zoomer is lame and boring compared to the sheer aura of Light.

>>213528450
Light was not using Ryuk's note, he stole another shinigami's note to drop in the human world.

>>213525192
Ummmmmm based

>>213528532
Light's death in general is way more impactful in the manga since it shows him being pathetic and crying and begging, which totally destroys his image as a cool, collected and calm genius and schemer. It is a brutal and harsh scene for Light fans but feels extremely realistic considering how young Light is too. It is also a nice contrast to how L faced death.

>>213525258
It's been awhile since iv seen it but I don't remember him doing anything particularly unrealistic

They should do a remake in which Light gets caught by some Columbo-tier boomer cop.
In fact, it would be a crossover which I'd rather enjoy.

>>213528592
It basically reveals that all of his confidence and supposedly not caring that everyone just stops existing when they die was just bravado and he never actually faced the realization until the moment it happened. It's easy to say you don't care about death when you think you're going to live forever.

>>213528125
There's nothing else really like it.
The creator made another anime/manga called Platinum End which is kind of like the inverse, where a group of people are given angel powers and must battle/scheme to become the new God. It starts off good but becomes absolute shit and I wouldn't recommend.
There's also the k-drama Death's Game but it's kind of sappy and lacks the cat & mouse appeal of Death Note.
Future Diary has a great, similar premise that it never really lives up to.

>>213527104
There's people that autistic on this site, like the poltards who kept finding Shia LaBeoufs flag no matter where he put it

>>213528676
That's what wild about Death Note, is it genuinely is totally unique and there is nothing else like it, which is both amazing because of how much it makes the original a true masterpiece, but also frustrating because you are left really wanting more after it is over.
Breaking Bad is basically the closest we've got in the Western world, since it very obviously copies a lot from DN, even if the creators will never admit it.

>>213528553
Yeah but it's never been adapted as an anime or film so it doesn't really count and may as well be fan-fiction.

>>213528417
you are a dumb edgelord

>>213528758
What? I'm the opposite of an edgelord. Kasinski was the OG edgelord faggot loser, basicaly a loner and failure loser that killed people to find some semblance of meaning in his pathetic life, i.e., being an edgelord, whereas Light was as far from that as possible, despite his flaws.

>>213528364
Well he was pretty sure Kira was in Japan because that's where most the deaths were occuring, not a big leap of logic, and maybe he hadn't thought of a back up plan yet because he didn't need it till he first plan failed

>>213528735
>>213528676
If you have lot of time, are cool with reading manga, and like psychological mind games go check out Usogui. Great writing, great characters, great art, and even has its own little two man rivalry if that’s what you’re into.

>>213528735
Jesus Christ dude

>>213528819
>Light
light behaved like the typical 4chan user
he killed lind taylor for no reason
he killed ray penber for no reason
the author had to kill naomi misora to save light
If it weren't for ren, L would have caught him.
light was a dumbass

>>213528125
Nothing with similar premise but there are tons that share similar theme. I recommend Homunculus, Monster, and Erased.

>>213528417
>Light, on the other hand, was very specific about who he killed and why, and had a specific goal that he spent years achieving, AND ACTUALLY PULLED IT OFF.
Kaczyński was also very specific about his targets, he targeted people who contributed to modern, industrial infrastructure. He had a specific goal, which was to get attention, and he did pull it off. It was never about guilt, just a cold calculation. He felt he needs his ideas to be spread, and spread they did.

It’s a story about an extremely mentally ill maniac who is constantly fucking up, cracking, and coming up with smartass little projects to reassure his own intelligence. And it bugs me that some people don’t see that

>>213525051 (OP)
Death Note and The Big O are the only kino anime

>>213525196
would be locked away and stored as a relic in some monestary catacombs, only to be found decades later by a young monk who is tempted by the shinigami himself in a moment of weakness

>>213528735
Breaking Bad is a terrible example of a masterpiece of a show

>>213529084
>mentally ill maniac
the average 4chan user

>>213528957
>light behaved like the typical 4chan user
Not really. For one, he was tall, handsome, charismatic, intelligent and popular, all of which goes against the 4chan stereotype
>he killed lind taylor for no reason
It wasn't exactly for no reason, since he wanted to prove that "Kira" was real and could fuck up anyone that challenged him, but yes, even Light admitted this was a mistake and learnt from it.
>he killed ray penber for no reason
Light believed - incorrectly - that Penber and the FBI were onto him and about to close in on him, and he panicked and wanted to get rid of them. He didn't realise that Penber didn't actually suspect him. But Light was actually justified in being paranoid because their suspicion of him is exactly what motivated Naomi to suspect him. We know that they were about to clear Light, but there is absolutely no way Light could have known that, and from his perrspective it seemed like they were closing in on him so he had to act.
>the author had to kill naomi misora to save light
Yes but Light could have killed her easily if he wanted, but accepting the shinigami eyes deal. It's actually to Light's credit that he finds out a way to kill her without doing that, easily one of his most clever and devious moments.
>If it weren't for ren, L would have caught him.
Well, yes, but again, it was Light's scheming that helped him win. He took advantage of Rem to win because he accurately predicted what Rem would do in a very specific situation he manufactured. That's what Light is so good at - taking advantage of people by using his charisma and people skills to fuck them over.

>>213529117
Oh yeah for sure
And how can we expect someone to recognize this in a character when they can’t even recognize their own panic attacks?

>>213529108
No, I don't consider BB to be even close to DN's level, I never said that. I merely said it was a Western attempt at emulating it.
I personally don't care much for BB (especially after season 2, the last good season) and think it's worthless compared to a true masterpiece like Death Note, but it's undeniable how much it steals from DN.

>>213528655
It perfectly captures the mood of some of the 'aloof dispassionate killers' like Lavrentiy Beria or Rosbpierre (Possibly). Sometimes they go to their death with dignity but very often these people who had godlike power and grandiosity suddenly become bawling children when faced with just an inkling of what they did to others.

>>213529154
>but it's undeniable how much it steals from DN.
I can see what you're saying but this sounds like you don't watch a lot of shows

>>213528751
It's written by the same guy who did the original, in what world is that fanfiction?

>>213529123
>even Light admitted this was a mistake and learnt from it.
light is a dumbass
>Light believed - incorrectly
If Light were so smart he wouldn't have made that mistake
>It's actually to Light's credit that he finds out a way to kill her without doing that, easily one of his most clever and devious moments.
no this is not true
it was plot induced stupidity
Tsugumi Ohba admitted that misora would have solved the case
>it was Light's scheming that helped him win
no the fact that ren was obsessed with misa was just convenient bullshit to save light pathetic existence

>>213529206
True. That's what makes the ones that stay truly disappassionate and cold unique.
Even a nutcase like Mikami broke down (in both versions but especially severely in the anime).
In fact it usually ends up being the "good" guys that remain stoic and honourable despite facing death (e.g., L, Soichiro, Mello, Near) compared to the blatant murderers and psychos.
Good historical examples. There is something satisfying about that, that they were deep down cowards despite the misery and terror they enforced on others. This is what the manga author understood but many others do not accept.

>>213527469
It does but the story had already stretched the fibres of its credulity to a breaking point by having the police almost immediately come to the conclusion someone was essentially using magic to kill people in a fairly grounded world, and the extremely contrived segregated television broadcasts L does to narrow down the killer’s location.

I get you have to get the plot rolling somehow but the entire plot involved readers having to constantly suspend your disbelief at the contrivances, punctuated with sporadic moments of genuinely good cat and mouse tension.

>>213527469
Agreed. I adore Death Note and it's still my favourite piece of fiction ever made but yes, it absolutely does fall off a cliff after L dies and I totally see why the original creators wanted the series to end with Light killing L, that feels like a way more conclusive and dramaticallly satisfying and LOGICAL ending, if very dark. Sometimes I honestly consider just stopping watching at episode 26 because of this, and pretending it stops there.
>>213529462
No one actually believed the shinigami/supernatural aspects until they saw it after they touched the Death Note following the capture of Higuchi, though. This was 100% objective physical evidence of supernatural elements, which they never seriously considered before. But even before this, how else could you interpret the MASS influx of random and sudden heart-attack deaths? Like, seriously, explain that.
I actually think the story did a good job of showing how reluctant most people were to accept a supernatural explanation until there was absolutely no other possible explanation for it.

>>213529556
>how else could you interpret the MASS influx of random and sudden heart-attack deaths?

>>213529426
>This is what the manga author understood but many others do not accept.
I'd be throwing a bomb into a crowd with this example, but reminds me of Eren from attack on titan.

That said I'd hesitate to suggest it's always this way as I am thinking of a fair lot of Germans who went to the gallows with their head held high in b4 "They were the good guys that's why", although others who were clearly cowards of that stripe like Himmler didn't.

It's an interesting question though that you can't really ever test until someone is confronted with it themselves. Like how often people facing the death penalty will seek accommodations for life in prison. In the abstract I'd much sooner be killed than spend +40 years in jail. But facing it firsthand and my lizard brain might kick in and go "no! live nigga live!"

>>213529556
> you interpret the MASS influx of random and sudden heart-attack deaths? Like, seriously, explain that.

Nowadays and the covid vaccine would be the answer, but >>213529615 in a world without death note existing in popular culture we'd all just assume there's some illuminati/intelligence cabal going around doing it.

>>213529615
They are nowhere near as competent as this though
If they were, 90% of people wouldn't suspect them of being involved with killing JFK

>>213529684
Yes, I didn't mean to say that it applies to real life too, that "rule". Yes, the Nazis at Nuremberg did face death proudly and stoically, I do not deny that. I have studied this particular historical event enough to acknowledge this. I was specifically referring to Death Note itself here.
I am still not convinced that anyone could rationally accept SO MANY coincidental and convenient heart attack deaths though, especially not when ALL of them happen with criminals that very recently commited crimes. That's way beyond just mere coincidence, and no, COVID does not explain that, because COVID affected random innocent people, not just criminals. Also, the powers that be would never admit that COVID vaccines have any negative effect.

>>213525051 (OP)
Why does Light even keep the task force around after L and especially his father died?
They all know about the death note, that Light was under suspicion of being Kira, and conveniently L and Watari died just before L could prove that the 13 day rule was fake and expose Light and Misa as not being innocent.
Are the task force retarded?

>>213528592
Yeah, the anime went for some ghey fujo ending that tried to paint Light as a tragic villain.

>>213529873
>Are the task force retarded?
yes
soichiro yagami deserved to die

As much as people (mostly) normies hate on Near, it's at least very funny and entertaining how Near can so effortlessly provoke Light into autistic rages, like even after one single short phonecall he makes him shit himself and start panicking and be afraid for the first time in literally five years. S-tier moment. Near is so fucking cool in this scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpfZF6H8xMs&ab_channel=MochaMedia

>>213529873
Serious question: Does Light actually know the names of the Task Force members? Didn't they all agree to use aliases after joining the Task Force? Obviously Light knows Soichiro because it's his father, but everyone else might be using fake names. Or am I mistaken with this and they do use their real names among each other?

>>213529914
You're too harsh on him. There legitimately wasn't any actual hard evidence of Light the entire time, that's the problem. Yes, the overwhelming CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence was there, which is what L to believe Light was Kira, but there really wasn't any hard physical evidence, and that's why Light got away with it. Soichuro was a hardcore lawfag and would only accept physical evidence, and there was none, even if the circumstantial evidence made it 99% obvious it was Light.

>>213527469
Honestly my head canon is Near just wrote Mikimis name in the Death Note to ensure victory.

>>213529924
Agreed. But also the anime didn't really do him justice, he's better in the manga. The anime kinda fumbled part 2 in general.

>>213530108
This was a legitimate theory referenced by a character in the manga and I honestly feel that it is fucking cool if it is real, like the ONLY way someone could beat Light was by "cheating" and using the Death Note themselves, because he was way too smart and cunning to be caught any other way. Even the original author seems to have believed this, which is why he created that theory himself.

>>213530077
they did nothing for five years
mello should have killed them all

i forgot what even happens after episode 25, and im fine with that and dont want to remember. Show ends at episode 25.

>>213530194
>because he was way too smart and cunning to be caught
yeah killing lind taylor was a genius move

>>213530259
>and im fine with that and dont want to remember
Light Yagami finally runs out of luck and gets caught like the little bitch he is

>>213530009
Misa has the shinigami eyes and can see their real names so it doesn't matter if they use aliases

>>213530259
The creator of the manga originally wanted the series to end with Light winning until the publishers pressured him to keep writing more, so yeah fair enough. The true, original canon ending is that Light really does win and defeat L.

>>213530367
Oh yeah good point, I forgot about that. And since they're all too fucking stupid to follow L's sound advice of "if anyone dies among us, suspect Light", I guess Light would be able to get away with it too.

>>213529462
>the extremely contrived segregated television broadcasts L does to narrow down the killer’s location.
This is literally the climax of the show in most viewer's minds and is right at the cusp of credibility, exactly where the actions of a real life genius who's 'that good' should be. It's the best moment of the show for most viewers and is the type of thing they're chasing as they watch the entire rest of the series

>>213530397
Got a source for that? Not denying it outright, but that sounds 100% like a fan canon that was circulated around so much that it became accepted as truth.

>>213525051 (OP)
How would Columbo have figured it out

yo light lemme dry your feet ;)

>>213531409
https://youtu.be/EL-ihLLz3R0

he bit more than he could chew

L’s Theme A mixed with Notorious Thugs - Biggie Smalls when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6XhzXB3oY8
For those of you who don't know