>introduce Galactus to the MCU
>it flops

How do you fuck up this badly? MCU is completely dead.

Fantastic Four has never resonated with general audiences. It's nerdass comic book shit only.

They need to just focus on X-Men and Spider-Man and bring Iron Man back. Not RDJ as Doom that's gonna flop too. Bring back IRON MAN.

>>213537523 (OP)
It came right after Superman mogged it to oblivion, along with the interest in the MCU being mostly dead

>>213537523 (OP)
If Avengers Doomsday flops, is this gonna finally make Disney stop making MCU movies? Every movie and show that came out this year has all flopped.

How do you fuck up a Fantastic Four movie this many times when the Incredibles exists to steal from?

>>213537523 (OP)
people are turned off right out of the gate when the casting is this awful

>>213537847
pedo pascal was only hired because he was cheap

adam driver was wanted for the role but it was only ever a dream they didnt even offer him because of his massive price tag... funny enough he wont even return to star wars because of how expensive he is not even because his character is dead lol.

>>213537651
Doomsday should be a surefire success, so yes if even that fails then it's literally over for Marvel.

>>213537608
iron man is problematic, chud.
you will watch ironheart and like it.

>>213537708
by adding a bunch of comicslop and basing it around Sue Storm with some of the ugliest casting ever

They really fucked up by casting Pedro Pascal. I don't think Hollywood realizes how truly hated that faggot is by a large percentage of the potential audience.

>>213537523 (OP)
This isn't just a flop, it's the third MCU flop THIS YEAR.

>>213537523 (OP)
>female silver surfer
>not female galactus
I would have watched it if it was about Galacta

>>213537523 (OP)
Box office numbers are meaningless in 2025.

>>213537523 (OP)
it has some of the worst casting since the uncharted movie

>>213538641
Nolan's Odyssey has it beat

>>213537523 (OP)
Capeshit and all its fans need to be exterminated

>>213537608
This. No one likes the F4

>>213538641
>>213538937
Nothing is worse than casting Christian Bale as Moses.

>>213537523 (OP)
TV really needs to work on the duplicate threads you already have several in the catalog that say this exact thing.

>metal skin female
thank you, fantastic four first steps

>>213539770
what was so bad about it? I think he did ok for the characterization that Ridley envisioned of a schizophrenic Moses

>>213540053

This was such a nothing movie. I just felt nothing the entire time. Fundamentally though I'm not sure what makes it that different to the big 2010s capeflicks I enjoyed. Maybe it's the actors.

>>213537523 (OP)
>Captain America: Brave New World
>budget officially $180 (at least $300 million) box office $415 million
>Thunderbolts
>budget $180 million box office $382 million
>Floptastic Four
>budget $200 million, box office $389 million
How much longer will they keep the lights on at Marvel Studios?

>>213537523 (OP)
Galactus has always been boring shit

>>213537523 (OP)
The real problem is how lazy they are with the heroes individually in the movie vs the comics. Reed in the comics does all kinds of insane shit with his stretching. He does none of that in the movie. Just jumps around a bit. Sue in the comics is overpowered as shit, and usually uses it to assist the others, making force fields, creating platforms, baiting enemies to strike where she was using invisibility. It helps create a non stop barrage of the others getting in hits. In the film she uses the invisibility once to great effect and then never again. The rest of the time she just pushes with her TK. In the comics Thing is walloping the fuck out of enemies. When he means clobbering time he means using the enemy as a speedbag. He's launching shit at enemies non stop. In the movie he throws one truck at Galatus and tries to hit him with a crane. And Johnny in the comics is one man forest fire, constantly keeping whatever foe they're fighting trying to put themselves out or escape whatever prison of flames hes contained them inside. In the movie he gets one good shot at Galactus' eyes and then he never does it again. And Galactus himself just strolls around New York, flicking them away like fleas. He never uses any of the crazy ass shit he can do in the comics. The entire thing was just lazy. No oomph. The Surfer was the only one in most of the fights that seemed to be putting in an effort

>>213538517
galactaGOD....

>>213537608
X-Men will be the most heavyhanded racial/sexual browbeating we've ever seen. They can't help themselves at this point.

>>213540053
>>213540158
True. The literal only thing I can complain about in Superman is that Lex's minion is a metal skin lady in the comics and they changed her to nanitesloppa

>>213540669
yeah dude, the x-men has never been heavyhanded, especially not in some of their best comics

>jewish thing who refuses to play thing
>mid 40s johnny storm
>actress not even trying to play sue storm
>reed richards is too autistic and tries to cosplay tony stark, arguably the worst reed richards played by an actor. Makes you think if dr strange took mr fantastic personality
I hate this casting but the space stuff with surfer and galactus was too good also the hero worship from the crowd was kino.

>>213537523 (OP)
Galactus was really fucking lame.

>>213540595
I really like this shot

>>213540245
After Doomsday bombs due so it's absurd budget.

>>213540840
the thing has always been jewish though, it's like one of his main character traits

>>213540595
Stretchy powers are comedic in live-action, they just don't translate well at all. Same with invisible force fields, they don't look good outside of a comic.

>>213537523 (OP)
In my opinion the movie and the characters looks so uncool. Take for example the outfits, they don't have that slick look of the 2005 version, or the iconic look of the jumpsuits from the comics, they are wearing sweaters. The 2005 FF had promotional images of Ioan using his powers, the 2025 version was so afraid of showing Pascal using his powers, you never saw Senor Fantastico using his powers until the final trailers.

>>213541086
so why make a fucking fantastic movie in the year 2025 if you think its too comedic?

>>213541008
>After Doomsday bombs
Please god let this happen because it'd be so funny

>>213540669
Absolutely
>>213540722
Nice opinion you leftist asshole. That's MARVELS by Ross and Kurk, which is a reexamination of the mythos of marvel characters
You want to know what was the original reason for the X-Men creation? The editorial asked Jack and Lee to create another superhero team, something to compete with JLA. Even the X-Men is a Martin Luther King analogy didn't really came until Claremont.
Man I fucking hate you casual leftists redditors.

>>213541211
literally nowhere did i say the x-men started as an allegory, but you'd be retarded to act like they aren't iconically associated with civil rights allegories now

>>213540722

>>213541156
Because morons keep thinking the F4 is some untapped goldmine when it's irrelevant boomer heroes no one likes. They can't even maintain a regular book as it regularly goes on breaks for poor sales.

>>213537523 (OP)
Flop? Because the MCU is run by a man who doesn't know the comic book formula, you can't bring the game's final boss in the first stage of the game, you can't have ugly and uncharismatic actors in this genre, and all the characters had their personalities removed, after Eternals Fantastic Four is another MCU movie with zero cheesecake and beefcake
>souless, boring piece of garbage

Praying someone autistic enough deepfakes the faces and voices with the 2005 cast so we can have the perfect fantastic four movie.

>>213541254
>literally nowhere did i say the x-men started as an allegory
Don't play fucking dumb, you knew what you were implying, prick.
>but you'd be retarded to act like they aren't iconically associated with civil rights allegories now
Who is saying otherwise? You are a casual fuckface that tried to pass an issue of MARVELS as an XMEN issue.
You dishonest redditors make me puke, you always do things like "but X-MEN was always a leftist analogy for gays/racism/whateverbullshit you guys are preaching these days. But it wasn't always like that.
I never see you people bring the fact Peter hated hippies during Ditko's run.

>>213541320
this game has nice asses, but all the character designs are total slop

>>213541156
It was their attempt to appeal to families, since they've been losing them. "Hey look, here's a family of superheroes. Just what you wanted!".

>>213541156
I didn't

>>213541086
>Same with invisible force fields, they don't look good outside of a comic.
Predator did a cool invisibility effect in 1987.

Wasn't a fan of of johnny storm, felt like he was ruining the silver surfer scenes.

None of you even go outside, I went to watch it yesterday and my whole showing was packed full, families, couples on dates, zoomer girls in pajamas

>>213540840
>jewish thing who refuses to play thing
He's too much of a pussy. Compare the new thing to the old one of Chiklis, that one that bite.
>>213541051
The Thing is jewish because Kirby self-inserted as The Thing, which is a detail you people always dismiss or never include.
I find that quite interesting, because for all and all Kirby is the real Mr. Fantastic.

>>213541584
Now call everyone an incel.

>>213541596
that had bite*

>>213537608
If MCU had rights to F4 last decade they would've been used instead of GotG and they'd be more successful today

>>213541584
I go outside, asshole. Yesterday I frollicked and bought ice cream.

>>213537523 (OP)
Galactus is something you bring in as an event like Thanos. He's not a villain of the week character, First steps should've been them dealing with a smaller thread like mole man or something where the team's gotta get their shit together. Also Introducing Franklin was also something that feels like it should've been in a sequel he's a big deal in the comics and you could've had his birth be the stinger for Galactus being alerted to Earth until the third/fourth movie where they fight him.

Why did the Silver Surfer have hair? I don't mind making her a chick but the hair looked stupid as fuck.

>>213541790
What flavour?

>>213537608
>Fantastic Four has never resonated with general audiences.
All four movies were bad. I know this sounds like denial but they really did important things wrong every single time.
There is no reason that a well planed, well written, well CAST, good looking FF movie, with a well adapted Doctor Doom as the villain, wouldn't be successful. They just never fucking made it.

>>213541916
Coffee with "love nuts," I don't know what kind of nuts they were but it was delicious.

>>213537608
The Thing & Johnny Storm were two of the most popular characters in marvel comics. They were able to make Groot & Rocket Raccoon work. I don’t buy this whole “welp F4 just suck” handwaving

>>213541991
The outfits are lame as fuck and stretch powers have always been relegated to comedic relief.
>Super smart inspirational father figure husband leader of group
Cool
>His powers are stretching
Lame. His personality is completely at odds with his power. The only mainstream popular stretch dude is One Piece, who does silly shit like blow on this thumb to make his fist bigger. The power is inherently goofy and whimsical and they give it to a guy whose entire persona is at odds with it.

And again their suits are extremely fucking gay. They need to be improved.

>>213541254
He's saying that wasn't their intention it was placed on to them by retards trying to be big brained. Even when asked about the correlation to the civil rights movement Stan Lee was basically like oh cool sure

>>213542095
Sue & Reed should’ve switched powers. Elastigirl being Sue Storm would’ve made big bucks with coomers

>>213542095
Reed's power comes from the fact that he's always stretching himself thin with his work. He's always juggling several things at once from his science to world threats to his home life to his relation ship with Sue. Everything about the cosmic radiation exposure amplified their core traits whether positive or negative. Don't talk about characters you haven't exposed yourself too beyond not even the bare minimum surface level shit. The retards at EFAP do that garbage.

>>213542212
>Reed's power comes from the fact that he's always stretching himself thin with his work
That's wonderful as literary device and analysis. Falls fast the fuck apart for a comic book movie.
>Don't talk about characters
That are held up to public scrutiny in the hopes said public will buy tickets to see the umpteenth attempt at turning these lame fuckers into Hollywood success stories? I'll talk as much as I want, nerd, me and everybody else shitting on these lame asses are the ones Hollywood is trying to sell to. X-Men aren't popular because of their allegorical adjacency to civil rights, they're popular because a guy shits laser beams out of his eyes and an angry midget tears shit up with his claws. Fucking retard.

Fantastic Four
more like Fantastic Sue and her sidekick Johnny Storm

>>213542305
The F4 have a lot of great stories, the writers of this movie failed to understand the assignment. Comic book movies are successes when they appeal more to the nerds who are the reason they're made at all. Once they appealed to the LCD of normalfags like yourself they turned to shit. So thanks for fucking things up like your audience always does.

>>213542457
>your audience
Hey retard, did you miss the point where I'm shitting on the movie based solely on what the Hollywood execs provided in trailers? Don't blame me for their failings, dipshit. I'm sure true nerds like you gobbled up every single one of these fucking movies. Don't pretend that you have any standards, dwebs.

>>213542509
>I'm sure true nerds like you gobbled up every single one of these fucking movies.
Nope me and my friends stopped after the second Avengers which was the right call because Hulk goes to shit, Thor gets brain damage and Spiderman can't do shit without handouts from Iron Man.

>>213542663
Well then we're in agreement that Hollywood's attempts to bludgeon F4 into the cultural mainstream are half assed and shit. Yours is a writing complaint, mine is that they need better clothes.

>>213537523 (OP)
oh wowie woowww GALACTUS? no way yumyum sloppity slop we eating good faggot bros

>>213537608
FUCK YOUR FAGGOT ASS IRON MAN YOU DEGENERATE. No one likes narcissists.

I don't support Disney of all corporations owning and making "Edgy male fantasy" IP's in any shape or form due to "esoteric" reasons. Disney owning action stuff like Blade, Power Rangers (formerly), and Ghost Rider for example perverts things "subconsciously" for such edgy properties for males via subconscious affiliations with Disney's 50 year legacy of "Disney Princess" franchises (Cinderella, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, The Little Mermaid, etc) which they Prided themselves on for so long. Much like a Rorschach inkblot test, the first thing that pops up in anyone's mind when someone says "Disney" is a "thumbnail icon of Cinderella" in their mind, and so Disney owning Marvel may lead to "Cringe Phenomenon" manifesting in the form of weird dreams Like Wesley Snipes' Blade having a teaparty with Cinderella in front of the Disney Castle in your dreams generated by your subconscious for example.

It infects the collective conscious to have stuff like Blade and Cinderella being paired so closely and associated with one another under the same umbrella that is the PARENT COMPANY Disney. This leads to the clown world reality that is the Zeitgeist now or should I say HELLSCAPE we've been living in ever since The Cinderalla Snow White Mickey Mouse Disney Princess Corporation for little girls bought an Action Franchise they had no business purchasing in "Marvel" in 2009.

This isnt Galactus. Female SS was a mistake through and through and that carried over to him as well. Literal cosmic being whose powers are basically infinity gauntlet level *almost* has to resort to splashing down in NY and stomping around only to get pushed by MarySue Storm and the Surfette into a portal. He should have been a kobyashi Maru event, a no win scenario, that would have needed Reed's fantastic brain to figure out a solution and then the rest of the team to put it into motion and pulling it off basically through deception/trickery not force. Instead er got Galactzilla. Idiots, the whole fuckin lot of them.

>>213537523 (OP)
Terrible cast, no one wants.
Set in some retro-futurism world like Incredibles, but worse.
And made it political.

>>213537608
Ironically the most successful F4 film wasn't even an F4 film to begin with
>captcha: 4R0P2D

>>213537523 (OP)
>>213537608
They barely use their powers in this movie and the entire cast is getting cucked the whole movie by the two female leads. They literally cut out a 6 minute diatribe lecturing men about strong women.

>>213544307
>They literally cut out a 6 minute diatribe lecturing men about strong women
Source? I want to listen to it so I can cringe.

>>213544189
It's almost ridiculous for them to put two women in the center as protagonists and not call two hot actresses for the roles, imagine if Prime Alice Eve was Sue and Prime Jessica Biel was the silver surfer? They purposely cast women without tits and ass and know that no one will see

>>213541008
>>213541201
Doomsday has a really good chance of flopping. We know that the script isn't even finished and they are trying to film parts of it as they are writing the script

didn't help that it was advertised as a girlboss feminist movie for months before release

>>213544327
I'm trying to find it now. It's basically the silver surfer lecturing Richards and Johnny about the importance of their family trusting Sue because women are meant to be leaders. It apparently focus tested so horrible that Fox panicked and ordered reshoots

>>213537608
I like the F4.

>>213537523 (OP)
>MCU is completely dead.
It's the best thing they've done since Endgame.

>>213544992
Ok scratch that, since Far From Home and Deadpool & Wolverine.

>>213540669
And the worst part? It won't even be MCU's fault this time, the comics have been that fucked for years. It's really baffling.

>>213540669
The X-Men have been an Israel allegory since the Krakoa era in 2018 and they've been written as a civil rights allegory for longer than that. Why are you a poser?

>>213545907
Nope. They're cool superheroes in skintight spandex doing awesome shit. I saw X2, it was awesome.

>>213545954
Thank you for reminding me of that Mystique. I'm going to go to masturbate. Furiously, perhaps.

>too cool for live action
One day anons

They should have adapted Imaginauts and Unthinkable into one movie. Would have been a great first outting for the FF in the MCU. Imaginauts is a great first act to explain the team to a general audience. Then the rest of the movie is Unthinkable which would have shown the FF basically defeated by Doom and Doctor Strange has to bail them out.

Whats the point of having 65 years of publishing history if you dont use these famous and treasured stories that are already written and storyboarded?

>>213537708
Helen>Sue any day of the week
Helen X Dash > Sue x Franklin literally 100% of the time

>>213540071
moses isnt a white british man

>>213537608
No it's Pedro bro stop blaming comics if it was good the comic fans would have went.