Thread 213537900

Kramer had the most complex role in the show and made it look effortless. Physical comedy, bizzare inside jokes with great deliveries, improvs, costumes, outrage/shock acting Kramer did it all every single episode. Everyone else just stood around doing sitcom dialogue while he was carrying entire episodes by himself. No Kramer, no Seinfeld. If Kramer was ethnically Jewish irl he'd be 10x bigger name and more famous than Jerry.

Naa George made the show

>>213537900 (OP)
Elaine Benes

>>213537900 (OP)
>Kramer had the most complex role in the show and made it look effortless.

I've always maintained that Kramer was consistently the funniest thing on the show. No one has ever disputed this.

And he honed his craft, by all accounts took the work seriously, practicing and planning everything with incredible precision. Meanwhile the others were just goofing off, coasting on the success of being on a show where half the country tuned in night after night to see what that crazy Kramer would do next.

Jerry was the funniest and the most interesting. That’s why the show is named after him. It’s not called “Kramer”.

there's definitely something about the more he was on the show the more it was famous
he does nothing in the first couple seasons

>>213538942
NOOOO KRAMER PLEASE NOOOOOO DONT TOOK THE BAIT DOOONT SAY THE N WOOOORD KRAMER NOOOOOOOOOO

>>213537900 (OP)
Maybe in early seasons, Kramer was perhaps the first character the show truly ''nailed'', but by the end his character was a hindrance and becoming formulaic.

>>213539045
Isn't it crazy the lack of free speech people had in the past, I'm glad I live in 2025 where I can say nigger as much as I like

>>213538882
Jerry plz

Seinfeld is just not funny. Especially Jerry Seinfeld, who is the most unfunny thing about this already unfunny show.
Anyone who claims the opposite is a boomer with a bad taste or an actual NPC repeating aforementioned boomer's points and deluding themselves into thinking it's good.

In fact, the Costanza meme is probably the funniest thing this piece of shit media has ever spawned.

>>213539185
Okay George stop using 4chan

>>213537951
https://youtu.be/TeH_5IP1AHo?si=SeqOV58DhNnwmm8d

>>213537900 (OP)
Richards is a mason. He even throughs some mason had signs. I think one instance is the JFK episode. Jerry George and Kramer are in a locker room talking about seeing each others dicks. Kramer says he needs to meet up with Newman and puts his finger on his lips implying him and Newman blow each other.

>>213539185
>Especially Jerry Seinfeld, who is the most unfunny thing
Nobody disputes this. There's a reason he plays the straight man role. He excels at being a nitpicky whiner surrounded by buffoons who aggravate his OCD neuroticism... and him embodying that component of his personality was when he was actually funny for a very narrow period before his ego swallowed up any minor blip of humanity he stilled maintained. He is a blackhole of human relatability today.

Rip Torn is the funniest part of Larry Sanders and JB Smoove is the funniest part of Curb. Hmm... Both jew shows. Interesting pattern. Maybe whining about stuff isn't the pinnacle of comedy?

>>213537900 (OP)
Kramer and george. Jerry and elaine were boring snobs for them to bounce off of

George and Kramer. And as far as females go Elaine is the most entertaining sitcom female of the 20th century. Only ones that come close are one note funny voice ladies

>>213537900 (OP)
i preferred elAine

>>213537900 (OP)
You are correct and it is so hard n our face that's why no talking about it

>>213538757
>And he honed his craft, by all accounts took the work seriously, practicing and planning everything with incredible precision
Agreed. He and the entire cast has said numerous times how much he planned and caluclated everything beforehand, right down to tracking down the right shoes to led him slide through Jerry's door.

I don't think he's really that funny of an actor (though I did like his last stand-up routine), but dude nailed the part, and really made the character/show what it is.

>>213539185
Jerry may be the weak link but it's still peak of sitcom format. I'm no boomer I'm 29 and I've known it was hilarious since I was 13, you may lack the life experience to grasp the humor and relatability the show presents. By being a show about nothing it essentially constitutes everything

>>213540797
are you fucking retarded? jb smoove is the worst part of curb and hearing that nigger spit everywhere when he talks in irritating as fuck
arty's flowery, vaccuous speech becomes really annoying in larry sanders if you watch the show in rapid succession, hank was the best part of that

>>213539135
Go to Memphis and scream nigger.
It'd be so funny

Nah it’s George, his plots carried the show. He’s such a great and different version of the nebbish jew archetype. He’s so insecure and so arrogant at the same time.

>>213540971
dee from sunny is funnier than elaine

>>213540797
>jb smooth is funniest part of curb
Holy shit what that says about you is tremendous

>>213538882
>Jerry was the funniest
said no one ever

>>213541137
no, being funnier looking doesn't make her funnier

>>213539185
You need to live in a society with norms and etiquette to understand Seinfeld. The humor is entirely based around it.

Best example is when the group need to go to a dinner party, but need to buy wine as a gift. George questions it and asks why he can't bring Pepsi, and Elain says it's because they're 'adults.' It's a great back and forth, but if you don't live in a society and don't understand the unspoken social contracts between people, then there's nothing to latch onto. If you don't understand why they had to bring wine, then the whole back and forth becomes meaningless.

It's why zoomers don't get it. They grew up in a fractured society with vast distances between people and far too many cultures. There is no social contract any more, so it makes perfect sense for a show based around social contracts to not land with them.

>>213537900 (OP)
Thats that nigger guy, innit?

>>213541137
Read my post again
>20th century
Dee is literally the main woman I thought of in making that separation. The mother in arrested development is another top tier

poor little pinkus

>>213541058
Why is he so useless and untalented in everything else? You can be a "consummate thespian who prepares ahead more than anyone else" but that doesn't make you inherently funny. I honestly can't recall a single episode where he said or did something funny, and his career after this mediocre visual rice gruel show points to the fact that he got lucky and never did again

>>213539045
>boys with a time machine
>Mr. Richards, call security on the loudmouths. Don't let them bait you.

>>213541187
This is why despite being an old zoomer I'm blessed to have had boomer parents because I understand culture far before my own

>>213541187
>Only retarded old New Yorkers get Seinfeld

>>213541380
I grew up in a small town in oregon and it wasn't hard to understand the social humor at all

>>213541483
So your hick town made you stupid enough to think that "getting" Seinfeld is an acquired skill?

>>213541483
Same. Part of me wonders if small towns were able to retain more of their social contracts for longer, given they had less diversity.

>>213541519
>brown zoomer upset at self for not understanding 90's laugh track driven sitcoms
kek

>>213541604
>/tv/tard can't read English

>>213541290
>Why is he so useless and untalented in everything else?
It's just a very specific character that worked with a very specific person. There are 1,000's of actors that nail a single role, then nothing else. Doesn't detract from that role in anyway.
>honestly can't recall a single episode where he said or did something funny
>I dislike him, so he's bad
sounds like a personal problem

>>213541667
?

>>213541681
>Doesn't detract from that role in anyway.
It does if he's not even close to being the funniest thing on screen at any given moment
>I dislike him, so he's bad
His lack of ability to find work and the fact that fucking Monk snubbed him highlights his lack of talent as an actor and as a comedian. He knew that Seinfeld, a bog-standard mediocre show, would be his magnum opus and that's why he fucked himself on stage

>>213541708
>"Duhuhuhuh, ur brown,duhuhuhuh"
>"Doiiii? Boiiing? Please dun use English, me read no guud"

>>213541380
You really proved his point lmao

>>213537900 (OP)
Yeah absolutely OP. So many great scenes are just pure Kramer with the others reacting

https://youtu.be/suAhGfVr_4U

But here’s an exception where Jerry was the best

https://youtu.be/-bWXlRMT674

>>213537951
If she hispanic?

>>213541187
My understanding of society is based entirely around growing up watching Seinfeld.
To me, how they act is norm.

Can you try and post your actual thought and opinion without veiling it behind multiple layers of irony?

>>213537900 (OP)
Nah George by a little and then Kramer.

>>213537951
Elaine get benis.

>>213542434
Well that wouldn't be much of an opinion then.