Holy shit now this is a fucking movie.

>>213548649 (OP)
Is this any good. Why is this so spammed here lately?

>>213548672
Because people are angry it wasn’t about mkaultra or pied piper or gun metaphors; it was actually about a based zany boomer witch lady (pic related) feeding off children like a parasite

It's a fairly low vibrational film. Mere entertainment. Not that interesting, hence the lack of discussion.

>>213549014
Metaphor for the government milking the young for all they have innit

>>213548649 (OP)
Just came back from the cinema. It's not a great horror film but it was honestly really funny. Liked it a lot.

Gladys was based. God I fucking hate children so much it’s unreal.

>>213549049
The humor adds to its disturbing nature.

Gladys realizing she was fucked and started to run away was hillarious.

>>213549030
No it was a metaphor for all the fucking boomers who are draining the youth from the children around them. The government is just an inept bureaucracy which doesn't want any inconvenience as represented by the cop in the movie.

>>213549100
Swing evil witches and evil wizards having their evil magic turned against them is always kino

>>213548649 (OP)
Is this the most excessively shilled movie this year? I keep seeing people say it's good but NEVER have I seen anyone talk about the actual plot and staff involved in it. Sounds bullshit to me

>>213549163
Seeing*
Silly phone

>>213549100
Her frantic little oh no'ing whilst starting to run away was hilarious. The actress was really good.

>>213549183
Maybe nobody wants to talk to you about it since you're a paranoid cunt?

>>213549195
>>213549100
I really disliked how in Longlegs Cage looked entirely out of place. Like he was just pasted in from a different, far more campy movie.

In Weapons the witch is given enough time to camp it up and do sinister stuff and so on. It's a far better executed character, despite being very similar thematically.

>>213549027
You talk like a fag

>>213549014
Is it just me, or did she kind of give off drag queen vibes? I guess the only difference between a woman acting creepy and clown like and a drag queen is the sex of the performer, so that probably explains it

>>213549183
It's been out for two days

>>213549331
Brain rot

>>213549226
Yeah I agree, Longlegs had good atmosphere but overall wasn't that great of a movie. It just rode on nick cage's coat tails. Weapons was just as good as Barbarian which was really surprising.

>>213549183
>Is this the most excessively shilled movie this year?
You have to have a brain injury to say this in a year where the minecraft movie came out...

>>213549310
This film was made for you and people like you.

>>213548649 (OP)
>1.5 hours of suspense with occasionall showcase of the house where scary shit happens
>turns out, there is the witch the house

WOAH, WHAT A REVEAL!
6/10 movie

>>213549014
>pied piper
This would've been pure kino though and in her wig and clown makeup Gladys looked exactly how you'd expert a horror movie version of the Pied Piper to look. I still really enjoyed the movie but making it the Piped Piper would've made this a potential 10/10.

>>213549635
>You see all movies need to have a twist at the end

>>213549635
From early on, when they wrote "witch" on her car, I hoped it was a witch. When done well, like this movie, they're great villains. This joins the trilogy of top-tier witch movies:

The Witches
The Witch
Weapons

>>213548649 (OP)
It's fucking wizardry shit. Grimoires, effigies and hocruxes. Logic flies off the window
There's no need for explanation

>>213549928
i love that kind of stuff desu

>>213549928
Blair Witch Project opens a niche for the witch horror genre for the decades to come

spoil me why did the kids run away

>>213551778
The witch (the woman here >>213549014) used a spell to control them and make them hide in the basement of her house, so she can use their energy/souls to heal herself.

>>213549027
Yeah the ending was insanely cut and dry for sucha great premise. You can tell cregger is a skit writer because he can only come up with concepts.

>>213551834
heh ok not knowing was more interesting

Alright guys, here’s my “better ending.”

The kid has been secretly summoning demons to kill his classroom bullies, and the great-aunt is actually an exorcist who tricks the parents into letting her into their home because she has sensed what’s happening.

Throughout the story, everyone, including the audience, believes she’s the cause of the strange events. It’s only at the very end that it’s revealed the child has been dabbling in dangerous occult rituals he found online.

Alex sends all his classmates’ souls to hell, and the great-aunt is blamed when their bodies are discovered in the basement. The parents kill her, believing Alex’s version of events which is essentially the same story we see in the actual movie. He is then placed with a new family, and the audience realizes he’s about to start the cycle all over again.

In the end, the audience also realizes that their own paranoia and suspicion have been manipulated, just like the parents’.

>>213551939
No one cares

>>213551939
Tell that to Zod's snapped neck

>>213549027
>Mere entertainment. Not that interesting, hence the lack of discussion.
Meanwhile well over 1000 threads on superman, F4, Snyder etc etc etc etc. please become a namefag so I can automatically filter your retardation, OR even better than that never post again

>>213551939
This is awful, sorry anon but you aren't gonna make it

>>213548649 (OP)
The last 7 minutes were probably too cheesy, but it was an amazing movie nonetheless.

>>213552203
Why is it awful

>>213552939
You've perfectly summed up why people rave about this film and Barbarian.

You came up with the shitty Bagool ending where the villain wins and everyone walks out of the theatre miserable. Cregger films have stupid, over-the-top, cathartic endings where the villains get ripped to shreds and it rocks.

>>213553100
>A movie that makes you realzie you would likely fall for a false flag narrative vs a movie that reinforces the idea that justice always prevails even though it clearly doesn't
I hate Americans

>>213548672
Astroturfing by marketing agencies hired by Warner Bros.

>>213553116
Good for you? I'm not American retard

>>213549014
>Because people are angry it wasn’t about mkaultra or pied piper or gun metaphors
Don't try to lie to make this fucking slop look better. It still had that retarded floating AR-15 shit. Fucking stupid as hell.

>>213553116
He's not making JFK you spaz. It's a stupid horror film. Not everything has to be about your cringey politics.

Don't ever fucking call me American again cunt.

>>213553212
>It's a stupid horror film
Y-yeah?

>>213553116
>realzie you would likely fall for a false flag narrative
pol really has brainrotted some people lol

>>213548649 (OP)
im like 95% sure they'll turn this into a franchise

>>213553315
Using brainrot is a form of brain rot

>From the director of Miss March

>>213553413
>i know your are you said you are but what am i
lol fuck off retard

>>213553521
>i know your are you said you are but what am i
Wtf did I just rad

favorite movie of the year for me. even tho contrarians on /tv/ never like anything i think Hollywood execs should focus more on movies like thsi instead of capeshit slop

It was genuinely so refreshing just having a villain in a horror go "oh shit I'm fucked" and just bail.

>>213553548
Most of the people against it are still seething over Barbarian having a bad white man in it. For some reason they think 60s America was peak and boomers can do nothing wrong.

hey wait a minute isn't this whole movie basically just Salem's Lot?

>>213549030
Yeah... because the government sees a lot of value in broccoli heads that do not possess long term memory or any skills at all.

>>213553572
It was cathartic but it hardly makes the movie worth it

>>213549014
She was actually not anyone's aunt right

>>213548649 (OP)
I thought it was pretty 'meh'. some of the character sequences were interesting but the story got worse as it went along and it turned into modern horror garbage. And I do not understand why modern filmmakers simply refuse to 'resolve' the story in any meaningful, cathartic way. I wouldn't go out of my way to see it, just wait until it comes to streaming or just torrent it.

>>213553572
Endings like that are extremely forgettable

>>213549471
>Thinking you need to sell minecraft to zoomers
Retard alert

>>213549014
A bit antisemitic no?

>>213553548
Why was it your favorite? I thought it was pretty mediocre.
>think Hollywood execs should focus more on movies like thsi
This is like the only type of horror movie that comes out anymore. The only ones making traditional horror movies is James Wan and his AUTOMIC MONSTER production company, and some Blumhouse. By 'this type of horror movie', I mean witches taking your free will and there is nothing you can do about it: Hereditary, The Witch, Longlegs, Gretel & Hansel, Antlers, and Together are just a few of several examples of this type of horror movie invading Hollywood right now. The fact is they're unironic Satan worship, the rituals, theme's and imageries are too specific to be a coincidence.

Any hairy actresses in this? I'm not watching modern shit if I can't jerk off to hairy forearms or armpits or whatever.

>>213554228
And the movie didn't really 'end' either. A true ending would have been the restoration of the town back to normal life: after a period of mourning the death of Paul, Alex is back to living in a peaceful state with his family, Justine returns to school and regains the respect of the community and Archer, with the children returning to lives of innocent normalcy. But instead we get a weird voiceover. Exposition to end a story is like the most basic sin of film writing yet Cregger book ends the movie with it. I don't understand what anyone see's in him as a director. He didn't even know how to jumpscare properly.

>>213554304
Name 5 movies containing hairy pits

>>213553194
Imagine crying that a dream sequence has some nonsense imagery.

>>213554422
>The curtains were blue

>>213548672
>a good original experimental horror movie comes out (horror is the only genre where you can still experiment)
>everyone likes it and its a massive box office success
>/tv/igger is crying and complaining bcs we arent discussing Fantastic Four for the 100th time

>>213549049
>It's not a great horror film
so true zestie! there werent even 4 jumpscaes! only 3! not horror.

>>213554552
Fantastic Four is a better film: it has a better story arc, clear and discernable theme's, and a tasteful blend of heart and humor. I can't say the same for Weapons.

>>213549183
>talking about movies on the movie board is a conspiracy

>>213554552
>experimental
What was the experiment exactly

Anyone who watches this movie and comes out of it not understanding how the puppetting of people works can safely be disregarded as a knuckle dragging, mouth breathing retard.

>>213549183
No one on /tv/ talks about film seriously. And if they do, no one replies to them. It's why you see replies like >>213554297 and >>213554389 go unanswered. /tv/ has shit taste and can't even discuss the finer points of a film or story with any depth or original thought.

>>213554619
Then explain it to us. Explain how you could do what happened in that movie in real life, or, if it's an allegory of some kind, explain the allegory. Struck me as more unironic satanist worship from Hollywood and nothing more.

>>213554647
>Explain how you could do what happened in that movie in real life
Are you an actual autist? Why should that matter? It's fiction. There's going to be shit happening in it, that wouldn't happen in real life

>>213548649 (OP)
I just watched like 5 minutes at 1h20m and this looks like a made for TV comedy. Not watching the entire shit lmfao, what the fuck is this even.

>>213554778
I know no one can actually take over another person. I'm asking because the anon said anyone not udnerstanding how the puppeting of people works is an idiot: but If it were fiction, you're right, it wouldn't matter. But they seemed to imply it's a reality. My personal feelings was the film was trying to portray it as a real hex or curse: the rituals and imagery's were too specific to not be. You're seeing this trend all over modern horror the last 6 years.

>>213548649 (OP)
pirated it last nite. eh it was ... shit. also i saw a similar movie a few months ago, 2 orphans going to some crazy lady as foster home who was a witch ... it was another non-event of a movie. if you are depressed and got absofucking nothing going on not motivated to do anything and time to waste then it can entertain you somewhat will fill some time before you go to bed. pfffff

>>213554647
>>213554836
What the fuck is this autism? The rules for it are so clearly explained.

Anyone got a webm of the kids tearing the witch apart?

>>213554821
It's ok anon go watch fantastic four again

>>213554897
You're missing my point entirely. The rules for it being explained are precisely why it's Satanic. You basically went to the theater to watch an unironic Satanic ritual film. Same in Hereditary, Longlegs, Gretel & Hansel, The Witch, the entire Sabrina show on Netflix. That mordern trend of horror movies becoming unironic Satanic films is killing the genre.

>>213554950
>Evil in a horror film is satanic
Yes, and?

>>213554167
She used an old word for tuberculosis by accident, so she's likely a lot older than she looks. Who the fuck knows how she was related to the family though.

>>213554950
Good job, anon. You've just realized that horror is bad art.

>>213554983
It's the way the evil is portrayed. No horror movies used to be that specific and detailed with their satanic rituals like they have the last 5 years or so, and no previous horror movies portrayed satanic group as 'winning', and the protagonists having no control of the outcome. The one thing I will give credit to Weapons for doing is that it allowed Alex to use the witches curses against her to destroy her. But even then, the movie has no resolution: He does not return to life with his parents and everyone still ends up as braindead zombies: in a sense, evil still 'won'. That's the issue I take with modern horror. Again, you see the same outcomes in Hereditary, Longlegs, etc. Even Noseferatu had evil 'wins' themes. To me this is all fairly obvious when watching these movies, but maybe it goes over the average filmgoers head who isn't really paying attention to what they're watching on screen. These types of films are demoralizing and glorify evil.

>>213554948
Why the fuck would anyone watch that?

>>213554617
whats conventional about it?

They really gave that bitch one of these

>>213555048
>No horror movies used to be that specific and detailed with their satanic rituals like they have the last 5 years or so, and no previous horror movies portrayed satanic group as 'winning', and the protagonists having no control of the outcome.
European horror movies did, because they were usually financed by government film boards ran by Satanists. Now you have the same shit, enjoy.

>>213555042
It's not. Horror used to be great art. The general formula used to be: a chracter in a state of vulnerability after some tramatic event let's evil into their life, the evil begins to slowly grow more powerful and take over, and then from the display of some sort of vitue, like courage, bravery, forgiveness, humility, they defeat it. Modern horror films are not like that at all anymore and haven't been for nearly 10 years. Only one still making films like that are Wan and a few Blumhouse. Modern horror on the otherhand are unironic satanic worship films with no catharsis, and this is largely intentional.

>>213553886
No.

>>213554577
Retarded Marvelgolem, your movie flopped.

>>213555099
>horror movies used to be great art because they had happy endings and christcuckery was le good o algo
hahaha happy endings in horror movies are for women

>>213555103
It's box office success or failure is irrelevant to the quality. There's a difference between a critical success and a commercial one.

>>213555129
>critical success
f4 86% on RT
weapons 95% on RT

marvelgolems keep losing

>>213555125
If you want me to take you seriously, you'll quit the name calling and /pol/ buzzwords. The Virtue's are not a solely Christian concept. Catharsis, or art reflecting real life in a way that nourishes you on an ontological level, is the whole point of telling any story. Lack of catharsis in modern film is why most audiences leave the theater cold and unsatisfied these days.

>>213554619
The movie establishes that attacks have to have hair. Puppeting requires personal objects. In the fakeout scene where Justine is sleeping in the car, the puppet can't attack her and instead the witch has to resort to a lock of her hair for later. However, the cop was able to attack the crackhead and drag him in the house. Why didn't the witch have the puppet drag Justine in when she was sleeping?

>>213555183
imagine worshipping a zombie jew on a stick lmfaoooooo

>>213555155
Rotten Tomato's is not a good barometer for measuring critical success. There is a difference between a reviewer and a legitimate critic.

>>213554837
Oh, Bring Her Back. Yeah, I wish this movie was as gory as that.

>>213555200
F4 3.5/5 on letterboxd
Weapons 3.9 on letterboxd

marvelgolems keep losing

>>213555196
Maybe one day, you'll grow up.

>>213548649 (OP)
>moist disliked it

Overrated on release

>>213555183
sometimes i just wanna see shit fail and become evil coz its fun to see

if every horror movie was a le happy ending feel good flick i wouldnt even bother seeing any of them at all

I saw Superman, Fantastic Four, and Weapons. Superman was goo, Fantastic Four blew and somehow is still enjoyable than Weapons. Speaking of weapons, this movie was so bad that I wanted to return to the theater with one.

>>213554422
>akshually it doesn't have any gun metaphors!
>j... just ignore the gun metaphors!
Stupid fucking faggot

>>213555099
Where's the trauma for Ridley's character in Alien?
>>213555048
How does the movie not have resolution? They tell you from the beginning the kids never come back. The witch dies. Justine is cleared from suspicion. Archer finds his son at last. Alex is free. I find the ending a sober reflection on how not all damage can be undone, which can be especially poignant depending on how you decide to take the witch exploiting children.

>>213548672
Probably because it just came out lol

Still don't get how this generic slop ignited a bidding war.

Post witch Kino.

>>213555187
She wanted to avoid drawing attention to the house. Which is why after she possesses the officer and drags in James, she realises they need to move on

>>213555243
>capeshitter sequel consoomer doesnt like a new original horror movie
not surprised

>>213555249
>A dream sequence explains the whole movie!!!!
>J...just ignore the rest of the movie!
Well ok.

>>213553194
A gun would be what Josh Brolin's character recognised as a "weapon". There was obviously some sort of link between him and the witch or her magic or whatever in that dream sequence so that was probably his mind's interpretation of whatever was projecting into his head.

Do cops in the US always work alone?

>>213555277
i wouldnt call it generic but yeah i dont understand either, i enjoyed the movie maybe even a lot, but it was missing something crucial

>>213555313
Fucking retard
>>213549014
>Because people are angry it wasn’t about mkaultra or pied piper or gun metaphors
>it wasn’t about mkaultra or pied piper or gun metaphors
>wasn’t about
>gun metaphors
Eat shit you dumb fucking cunt

>>213554389
You don't need the movie to explicitly show you all of those things to gather that that's what probably ended up happening. The voice over was because the story was being told from the perspective of one of the townspeople. The movie ended just fine.

>>213555187
Both of those are genuine plotholes that violate the basic rules set up for the puppets. I will play armchair screenwriter and suggest that those cases were direct control by the witch instead of setting a target and letting them go automatically. Them bringing the puppeted dad to the school or whatever shows you can get them to do some things. However, the movie never shows us the witch doing this so we really don't know. It's more reason why I think this is a sloppy movie and am baffled by how many are singing its praises so much.

>>213555187
Better yet, why didn't the witch use the wife to steal an object from Justine when she was sleeping (like, I dunno, the drink she was topping off with alcohol on her stakeout). That way she can turn Justine into a puppet and order her to go kill herself somewhere unconspicuous.

Absolutely no one would've been surprised if Justine had been found dead with sliced wrists in her bathtub after the kind of witch hunt she was enduring and her alcoholic tendencies.

Instead Gladys' plan involved siccing Marcus on Justine from across town, in bright daylight, when the possessed people clearly don't even think about dodging cars so it's pretty lucky he even made it to her. I guess it's a kind of two birds one stone job but it's so sloppy. Like the only reason her puppets even work is because none of the characters have a gun until the very end.

No way I'm buying the police couldn't figure out that the kids all ran in the same direction. No way the police wouldn't do a thorough background check on the aunt. Not a chance the police would buy the stroke story, not when the boy's parents are already a part of the community.

It's a fun movie that has a fun ending with the kids rampaging. But yeah the premise and how the story unfolds doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

I'm glad I watched Barbarian first to prepare me for the kind of cop out storyteller Creggers is. Don't feel like I wasted my time with the movie, but its a really dumb movie.

>>213554647
How the fuck do you interpret this as a satanist worship movie lol?

>>213555369
eh nothing new it's like that eddington movie that exonerated blm and antifa for violent riots (they were framed lol) while the shills insisted the movie wasn't about siding with blm and antifa

a giant gun just flew over my house!

>>213555263
>Where's the trauma for Ridley's character in Alien?
I would say her crew being murdered one by one and being standed in the endless void of space are good starts.
>>213555263
>How does the movie not have resolution?
For one thing, it resolved with exposition, which is the laziest way to end a movie. Alex does not returnn to peaceful life with his family: it implies they are braindead zombies forever and he goes to live with his aunt 'who is much nicer' (whatever that means). It is not established that Justine is cleared from suspicion, we actually do not know how the town or law enforcement will react to a murderous pack of children killing a which and running through multiple homes. Archer does find his son, and that was a touching moment. But when an evil outside yourself and beyond your control is vanquished, and the curse is lifted, everyone SHOULD return to normal: damage like that should completely and entirely be undone. And I guess that is where we differ.

I gave Weapon's the credit it was due, and it was refreshing to see evil destroyed with a 'taste of it's own medicine'. But the superior ending would have been Alex returning to the love of his mother and father, and the film denies you of that. Maybe Cregger has mommy and daddy issues and that would have been a step too far for him. My main point is you know when you feel catharsis: you know when you're relieved and renewed from a film, and I did not feel that way after Weapons. Upon examining why that was, I believe it's because the ending failed.
>>213555238
>sometimes i just wanna see shit fail and become evil coz its fun to see
That's interesting because I think seeing evil get mocked and destroyed is fun to see. I guess you are more drawn to evil things and evil natures than I am.
>le happy ending
You keep saying this but that isn't what I'm saying. The ending of The Conjuring, for example, is not exactly happy. But it is carhatic.

>>213555399
It's a big problem for me how incompetents the cops are, it completely takes me out of the movie.

>>213555345
No, they're supposed to have a partner and backup on most calls. They're also supposed to report everything happening to dispatch. When he sees the meth head in the alley he's supposed to report to dispatch his location and what he is in pursuit of.

>>213555428
holy kino

>>213555438
>The ending of The Conjuring, for example, is not exactly happy.
how? everyone survived thanks to the power of christ

>>213555206
>Oh, Bring Her Back.
Isn't that literally just Pet Sematary?

>>213555428
What a based film that doesn't have any metaphors for guns and doesn't advocate gun control. No references to guns in the entire movie. No preaching about how guns are bad. No floating AR-15s. No stupid metaphors. It's redpilled rightwing kino, my fellow conservatives.

>>213555238
>sometimes i just wanna see shit fail and become evil coz its fun to see
How? That's so unsatisfying.

>>213555502
If you want to have an adult like conversation about this, I'd be happy to. But I'm not going to respond to mockery and patronizing remarks.

>>213554633
You're not right in the head if you think they're serious replies.
>>213554389 can't comprehend that every facet of the film isn't explained. This is why I hate star wars and capeshit - the characters stand around explaining every mundane thing for hours on end. It's for people with no imagination and no theory of mind.

>>213555466
You have to remember these movies are written by rich leftist faggots that know nothing about police procedure, work process, or anything other than MUH COLLEGE PROFESSOR SAID COPS BAD!

>>213555529
because the what if aspect of it is interesting
its better than "good wins everything goes back to normal"

>>213555345
No, they work in pairs, and they report everything to the black sassy station lady in charge of reports (unless they're stealing drugs, money, raping women or killing people).

>>213555509
Yes. All stories are derivative and not wholly original.

>>213555553
I'd actually argue the film explains too much and doesn't show you enough: exposition is lazy story telling. You only explain when you can't show.

>>213553315
t. thinks children were actually killed at Sandy Hook

>>213555428
please someone explain this
is it a dream sequence?
is the witch manifesting a floating gun?
wtf is this trash?

>>213555305
More like this movie was so bad, the lowest form of entertainment was still more enjoyable.

>>213555580
But evil winning and everything going to shit isn't anymore "what if" than evil being defeated. You get to see what happens when shit goes bad in the move, that's the whole conflict. You don't need it to then go "and then it stays bad, The End!", that's just shit.

So you're telling me all these lil niggas ran to the same exact central location while filmed and proximity alarms blaring but nobody noticed?

>>213555580
what 'what if?' aspect? Those movies are clear cut: evil defeats good and there's nothing you can do about it. It's demoralizing and unironic satanic power fantasy. Stories need to reflect real life and, sorry, but good is greater and more powerful than evil.

The puppets don't blink and that's why the eyes become prominent. This is why the Principal's eyes were bulging. He didn't blink a single time during the hours spent running across town.

>>213555652
>Stories need to reflect real life
Why?

>>213555622
The universe abhors the occult and will do what it can to stamp out such powers.

>>213555428
I feel like the movie would've worked a lot more if it was more overtly about school shootings.
Like that other dude said
>Make the kid the villain, representing school shooters tendencies in bullied kids
>Except that instead of finding his daddy's gun and shooting up his classroom, he finds auntie's book of magical recipe to abduct his classmates and keep them locked up somewhere, basically getting absolute control over them like how spree killers want to feel absolute control over their victims despite (and because of) their difference in social status
>You could justify the kids hiding so well because as a kid he knows spots adults don't. Adults have been kids before, but town change, your secrets spots when you were young might be gone
>The kid would also mind control his parents (representing how school shooters also deeply traumatize their family members even when they direct their rage outside the family circle), so they would help keep the charade. Maybe even only 1 parent would actually be controlled
Just shooting some idea. As of now the movie says nothing and once you're past the hook it's just too stupid to be invested in.

This movie was dogshit. One dimensional characters, needlessly "convoluted" narrative, unfunny when trying to be funny, funny when trying to be serious, it wasn't scary whatsoever, and worst of all it was FUCKING BORING. I enjoyed WKUK and I even slightly enjoyed Barbaian (shits the bed around the 3/4 mark). I understand that Zach is a comedian, but the comedy in this film ruins the "tension" the rest of the movie had. All of the characters are extremely bland or just straight up unlikeable.

>>213555652
>Those movies are clear cut
they dont have to be

>>213555622
It's a dream.

>>213555727
>shits the bed around the 3/4 mark
ah, you got filtered

>>213555674
Gee idk, I guess it's the same way a landscape painting looks like how it is in real life, and we admire and applaud an artist who can capture it faithfully in a seperate medium. It strikes you immediately when you walk into an art gallery and see a painting that is representative of real life. It's the same way good music has structure in chords, harmonies, and resolutions. It's just how the foundation of the universe is: we can't explain it but we do experience it and testify to it. It's the same in film: you see just and proper actions displayed through the characters in a story, and something within our nature rises up in us when it is portrayed faithfully and truthfully. That's what catharsis is. It's what makes art worth creating.

It sounds to me like you have been corrupted and compromised and just like evil more than goodness, that simple, but it will always leave you hollow, disfigured and empty. It's also possible you just haven't experience enough good films and good stories to understand what I'm talking about.

>>213555524
>retard nazis sees floating gun
>urghghghh im beeing oprresseeeeeeedd noooo i thought woke died naaaarghhhh

>>213555389
Gladys seems a bit desperate and clearly her powers are failing and have diminishing returns, even draining all the kids for a month didn’t make her that much younger.

>>213555722
Is it afraid to commit, veiled, or "subvert expectation" bs?

>>213555765
Yeah you are right, shitty movies tend to filter people.

>>213555788
This is the villain MO in Prisoners that was way more vague

>>213555773
>we admire and applaud an artist who can capture it faithfully in a seperate medium
No we don't AI exists moron.

>>213555818
when 999 people like it and 1 doesnt, 1 got filtered

Zach Creggar killed Trevor Moore to make pretentious diet A24 slop.

>>213555877
>the general population loves to eat shit so you should love to eat shit too!
99999999 people like MCU capeshit, guess it makes it better than Weapons kiddo.
Need better b8 m8.

>>213555773
>It's also possible you just haven't experience enough good films and good stories to understand
>mentioned conjuring blumhouse sloppa as a good example

>>213555913
no one likes mcu anymore every single movie they made recently flopped

>>213555917
The Conjuring is a legitimately good horror film, whether you care to admit it or not. It also wasn't produced by Blumhouse.

>>213555940
And yet 999999 people still watched the preflop MCU retard. A lot more than Weapons. Do those 999999 people make The Avengers a masterpiece you fucking idiot?

>>213555788
>Gladys seems a bit desperate and clearly her powers are failing and have diminishing returns
I don't think so, all her spells work perfectly. In fact since even the kid can do it it seems there's nothing to it but knowing the right ritual.

>even draining all the kids for a month didn’t make her that much younger.
She was still old but visibly healthier than she had been before. She went from collapsing in her bedroom to outrunning all the crazed kids for several minutes.

>>213555215
Avengers Infinity War 4.0
Weapons 3.9
Oy Mr Goyim I dont feel so good.....

>>213555972
What I didn't understand was how she was even 'draining' the children or Alex's parents. They were just standing around in the basement. I also didn't understand how, once she dies, if she had been draining their power, wouldn't everyone go back to normal? since, upon her death, their energy or whatever she was sucking would be released. But the film implied Alex's parents stayed braindead and the kids largely remained in a retard state. Just bad writing all around.

>>213549014

>>213555652
>Stories need to reflect real life

You conservatards are pathetic.

>>213555796
I think it's mostly afraid to commit. Maybe there's symbolism I've missed but I don't think so, the director even said that the floating gun means nothing, so why bother overanalyzing.
The only subverted expectation is going in thinking it's going to be a movie about school shootings, but it's actually a movie about parasitic behaviors, which yeah I didn't expect but it's not going to knock me off my seat.

It's amazing how in a lot of movies you can detect the posters with autism, diagnosed or undiagnosed, from their criticisms. No theory of mind, unable to extrapolate, confused by set shifting, bamboozled by metaphor and so on.

>>213555048
I've been calling it "Corny Millennial Nihilism" for a while now.

>"evil always wins, burrrh"
>"everything is always just shit, bhurrrr"
>"we're just meat and then we die brhuuu"
>"Hail Satan bhrrurruurr, yeah so dark so eeeevil"

It's so tiresome and corny anymore how heavy-handed they are about it, like no one is impressed you fucking faggots you don't look "wise" or come of like you're ahead of some curve, you just sound like a fucking weenie. And this is coming from someone who's as cynical as they come.

>>213556051
>What I didn't understand was how she was even 'draining' the children or Alex's parents.
Well, she wasn't successful. She failed to use the parents successfully, and it seemed like even the children didn't last her very long either.

>I also didn't understand how, once she dies, if she had been draining their power, wouldn't everyone go back to normal?
I think it may have literally just been the fact that they were basically starving to death and totally malnourished in that state. They were barely being kept alive with campbell's soup lol

>>213556051
>wouldn't everyone go back to normal?
Not really, it's magic, it does what the writer wants.Making everyone go back to normal would've been a bit too happy-go-lucky I guess.
The father was controlled for a few minutes and went back to normal without much trouble, but everyone else was basically put under for months.

>>213556068
Maybe I shouldn't say 'need' to, but good stories often do reflect real life conflicts, which involve a moral or ethical dilemma of some kind, and are resolved by the character overcoming that internal dilemma and performing the right or 'just' action.
>you conservatards
Your political ideological leaning has nothing to do with it.

>>213555972
But why risk mass abducting children if your usual plan is working. The spells she does are evil and she needs more and more life force to sustain herself.

>>213555971
Not everything needs to be a masterpiece, anon. They're competentely made flicks and decent entertainment.
Not everything is a 0 or 10, anon, there's stuff inbetween.

>>213556051
>I also didn't understand how, once she dies, if she had been draining their power, wouldn't everyone go back to normal?
Not necessarily, there's a number of rituals but the ritual to get you to attack someone is a different ritual from the one to put you in the catatonic puppet state in the first place. They'd need to get the social worker state witch in to break that state and they've got a backlog of two years to even get an assessment where I am.

>>213556104
>>213556119
It was just shit writing. Would have been more interesting to reveal the demon or force of darkness she was actually serving, since it is that which is using her to drain the children for itself. The children killing THAT would have been crazy

>>213556156
Don't kid yourself, a 0/10 movie would be a much more interesting experience than what ultimately ends up being a painfully bland 2/10.
If it was "decent entertainment" I wouldn't be calling it garbage.

>>213556070
>the director even said that the floating gun means nothing
So why the fuck was it in the movie? What a faggot retard.

>>213556211
I'm still watching it because most people liked it :)

Please tell me if it's scary. I have 2 people I watch movies with and they are fucking pussies for even the slightest scare in movies.

>>213548649 (OP)
the more I think about this movie the worst it gets

>random, unidentified little girl narrator because... it's le scary, okay??
>the witch's motives are not explained at all. why did she kidnap all of the kids? that's the entire crux of the movie and they don't explain it
>switching between all of the different character POVs to replay the same scenes multiple times just wasted screen time that should have been used to tie up plot threads at the end
>woman gets strangled by jacked police officer for like 20 minutes straight and doesn't even pass out, much less die
>aforementioned woman is established as the protagonist but is just forgotten about at the end
>actually like 5 different characters are treated as the main character
>characters do stupid shit purely so the plot can happen. the most egregious example is when they follow zombie cop into the house at the end. nobody would do that.
>asian guy named Marcus

the script is just a fucking mess. zach had some good ideas but really needed an editor to help him tighten everything up. who's dick did he suck to get this into theaters?

>>213556156
Are you illiterate? I was obviously responding to the masses make the movie good claim. Nobody is taking away the fact you like a piece of shit movie.

>>213556231
If even the slightest thing will scare them yeah this movie will scare them. It's also super gruesome.

>>213556124
>Your political ideological leaning

You know the word "conservative" has multiple meanings beyond politics, right?

>>213556227
because not having a floating gun would be boring

>>213556231
about as scary as evil dead 1

>>213556242
The things you say weren't explained were objectively explained. You're a bit dim. Opinion discarded.

has anyone else noticed on like facebook comments or somewhere you can see people's faces who are talking about this movie that the vast vast majority of people that seem to really hate it are black? I have no idea why, but I swear that's the case. Maybe this is the first time mass audiences that include blacks have been introduced to david lynch sort of storytelling and it's too abstract for them? idk, thought it was interesting

>>213556230
Most people in Germany in the 1940s liked a certain thing too. Glad that's what we can establish as the thing that makes it good :)

>>213556260
Conservative is a socio-political word by definition, and I don't consider myself a conservatice in any sense of the word.

>>213556242
>who's dick did he suck to get this into theaters?

I mean, Hollywood loved the script. There was a bidding war and WB gave him a 38 million budget including his 10 million salary and a guaranteed wide release. The test screening scores were through the roof.

I'm also baffled why people like this slop but like it they did.

>>213556284
>black men have actual good taste in film
I've noticed this more and more, I wonder what the cause is. Many of them hated SINNERS too, a film you think they would have liked since it's filled with black people.

>>213556284
>david lynch sort of storytelling
There was no surreal imagery, femme fatales, enjoyable characters, industrial nightmares, or competent cinematography/sound design though?

>>213556242
oh, and

justine and josh brolin are apparently having psychic premonitions about the witch in their dreams? (the jumpscare kids both have what I think is supposed to be the witch's shitty makeup on? and I think the floating gun was supposed to indicate that she was kidnapping people to use as weapons? maybe I'm giving zach too much credit.)

>>213556242
>the witch's motives are not explained at all. why did she kidnap all of the kids? that's the entire crux of the movie and they don't explain it
this was spelled out clearly by her. did you go to the bathroom during the movie or something? she's sick and thinks she can drain people to cure herself. when alex's parents stop working, she turns to his classmates

>>213556257
>the masses like it huh so it must BE SHIT!!! ITS GARBAGE!! ARGHHH DO I FIT IN YET GUYS??? I HATE POPULAR THINGS AND THATS MY PERSONALITY, HATING THINGS!!!
Popular things can still be decent anon. Just because youre a jaded boomerfaggot who needs to hate everything on a board that you think hates everything doesnt mean the movies are bad

>>213556290
If you hold conservative opinions and exhibit conservative behavior, you're a conservative person. Simple as.

>>213556302
>>213556242
Our taste makers are highly corrupted and the average taste of film goers is at an all-time low. I'm a little embarrassed I paid for a ticket to see this, but never again.

>>213556289
>jew faggot immediately bringing up nazis
hahahaha hello Moshe

>>213556283
explain it then

>>213556332
I don't hate everything you delusional faggot, I hated this garbage movie for the reasons mentioned. You can address the criticism or you can continue to have a meltdown about a fallacious argument that you yourself brought up.

>>213556302
Directors who have gotten $20 million upfront and 20% of first-dollar gross:
>Peter Jackson for King Kong (after the LotR trilogy)
>Christopher Nolan from Dunkirk onward (after the Dark Knight trilogy, Inception and Interstellar)
>Zach Cregger for Resident Evil (after Barbarian grossed $45 million and Hollywood folks read the script for Weapons)
Gets the ol noggin joggin

>film gets hyped to heavens from the second the script is sent out by Cregger's agents
>the film is decent but not great
>anons are baffled why some people are disappointed in the film

>>213556360
>anon creates head canon about anon's origin instead of addressing the crux of the post
Many such cases. Sad.

>>213556334
See that's where I'd disagree with you, I don't believe I am holding a conservative opinion. Stating that there are certain innate realities of art that are objective and should be observed is not 'conservative' by definition. You just want to put me in a box and chalk it up to some socio-political term but that's just because you're more close minded than I am.

>>213556323
You're just explaining what happened in the movie. How is this a point against the film?

>jaded conservacuck Faceberg boomer tourists who think 80s Freddy Krueger vs Jason slop was the pinnacle of horror think their opinion on new things matter when they get angry at the mere suggestion that school shootings might be bad

>>213556364
Multiple times in this very thread. The witch kidnapping the kids - she's using witchcraft to drain energy from them to make herself young again / heal herself, having tried to use the parents but finding that she can't get enough life out of them.

>>213556325
it's very vaguely implied; it's not "spelled out" at all. "drained" how? what about them is being drained? they don't seem to have lost anything other than their agency. and why children? what about children makes them a better source, especially considering the scrutiny it brings upon her.

>>213556377
People aren't baffled you just failed to make any good points.

>>213556406
Freddy and Jason films were slashers, not horror.

>>213556332
>anon creates a made-up story time
>I AM SILLY post
You are a better writer than Zach Creggar congratulations! :)

>>213556389
>thing is popular
>must be popular because people are dumb, haha! im so smart, look at me, people, i hate this thing that everyone likes, im so special and i have a REAL opinion because i dont like it!

>>213556396
the fact that that's never explained doesn't bother you? how about: why the fuck is the movie even called "weapons"?

>>213556406
>retard creates a series of delusions about anonymous board posters on the internet instead of writing worthwhile responses to the poster's gripes with a film
Keep trying buddy, you'll make somebody mad someday.

>>213556406
for those who haven't seen the movie, it has literally nothing to do with school shootings.

>>213556421
drained by blood magic. children aren't said to be a better source. she's just using whoever she can get help from alex to bring to her. also it's not even working, because she fails to use alex's parents to save herself, and his classmates don't work either which has her about to flee town towards the end. did you watch the movie, or just read the wikipedia?

>>213556421
The fact you think it isn't spelled out enough is more a reflection on you than the movie.

>>213556432
zzzz

>>213556374
>got offered $1.5 million against $4 million (basically up to $4 million depending on how successful the film is) for a Clue remake by Sony
>said fuck you
>???
>Sony agreed to give him $20 million + 20% FDG for Resident Evil

It was either retarded Hollywood FOMO (which happens) or something to do with Trevor Moore or both.

>>213556463
>the movie about a classroom of kids disappearing and showing a giant ar15 in the sky has literally nothing to do with school shootings
right, and barbarian had nothing to say about blacks/police either

>>213556421
Do you really think the answers to those questions would be better if the movie outright spelled them out to you? You can understand vaguely what it was, some magic essence/soul absorption thing. Any specific answer the movie gave couldn't be as interesting as the mystery and whatever answer you could come up with yourself. The story works however you want to interpret it. The adults were weapons and the kids were apparently a cure to her sickness somehow, that's all you really need to know.

>>213556467
>>213556472
wow you guys get really touchy when someone dares to criticize this movie

>>213556525
how is saying “it’s not spelled out what the witch is doing” when it actually is a criticism?

>>213556491
I had never even heard of barbarian until people started talking about this movie

>>213556525
I'm just pointing out that it's obvious, and explained many times by other anons. The fact that it still bamboozles you is a reflection on you.

>>213549014
It was quite explicitly a school shooting metaphor

>>213556508
you're right, and they should have never explained what the matrix was in the matrix. it totally ruined the movie. what, people need everything explained to them? pathetic.

>>213549014
They're still trying to make us afraid of old people when it's mostly young teachers grooming kids to run away from home

>>213556570
The movie is called "weapons" and it has a weapon in it. That doesn't mean it's about school shootings. Tbh I think the writer just writes what feels cool in the moment.

>>213556568
it's a reflection of poor writing and your own unearned sense of superiority

>>213555438
>are good starts
Is a good start.
>It is not established that Justine is cleared from suspicion, we actually do not know how the town or law enforcement will react to a murderous pack of children killing a which and running through multiple homes.
They say in the opening exposition that the police and government covered the whole thing up because they had no idea what happened. That does imply nothing happened to her.
>Archer does find his son, and that was a touching moment. But when an evil outside yourself and beyond your control is vanquished, and the curse is lifted, everyone SHOULD return to normal: damage like that should completely and entirely be undone. And I guess that is where we differ.
I am totally fine with a bittersweet ending. The way I view it the witch basically murdered all the people who were puppeted so I don't see the issue with them remaining vegetables. Damage was already done.
>I gave Weapon's [sic] the credit it was due, and it was refreshing to see evil destroyed with a 'taste of it's [sic] own medicine'. But the superior ending would have been Alex returning to the love of his mother and father, and the film denies you of [sic] that. Maybe Cregger has mommy and daddy issues and that would have been a step too far for him. My main point is you know when you feel catharsis: you know when you're relieved and renewed from a film, and I did not feel that way after Weapons. Upon examining why that was, I believe it's because the ending failed.
The witch chase was perfect catharsis for me.
>sometimes i just wanna see shit fail and become evil coz its fun to see
>That's interesting because I think seeing evil get mocked and destroyed is fun to see. I guess you are more drawn to evil things and evil natures than I am.
You're gonna tell me the ending wasn't evil getting mocked and destroyed?

>>213556572
You wouldn’t happen to be a negroid, would you? >>213556284

>>213556586
that's definitely the sense I got

>>213548649 (OP)
I'm just glad it's a better name than "Barbarian" which featured no sword and sandal fantasy

>>213556588
But the movie is not written specifically for you, and it's you that doesn't understand it. There are other movies around that do bend over backwards to explain everything with the characters standing round telling each other the plot. There is a market for those - Star Wars and so on, but not every movie needs to be like that. Go watch those kinds of movies.

>>213554389
>just add another 30 minutes to the movie bro, trust me, this movie needs to be at least 2.5-3 hours bro everyone's doing it these days
I just want to get the fuck out of the theater after the climax and this movie did a great job of wrapping it up quickly. And how exactly was it a "weird voiceover." It was a callback to the voiceover at the beginning of the movie.

>>213556598
you jumped to insults and ad hominem attacks really quick. classic sign of high IQ.

>>213556586
I don’t blame you for not following Zach, but he has streamed on twitch a lot, and it’s extremely obvious he has a strong left wing worldview and it bleeds into Barbarian and Weapons heavily. Lately, he’s also been censoring and putting trigger warnings onto his old comedy sketches.

>>213556618
>There are other movies around that do bend over backwards to explain everything with the characters standing round telling each other the plot.
false dichotomy

>>213556591
I think you're missing my main points still or don't understand them, so instead of me rehashing them out again in different language I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. My overall feelings on the film was it was not good story telling or writing and still failed to deliver cartharsis or a clear message to me in a meaningful way, and I base that on leaving the theater cold and unfulfilled.

>>213554577
these are the people who are calling you a shill

>>213556621
I did not say add another 30 minutes to the film. You could have wrapped the film up better in the same amount of runtime. Actually, in less runtime. I get that you liked it a lot and I didn't, but there is no need to get defensive. As for the voiceover, there shouldn't have been a voiceover in the movie in the first place. Voiceovers are bad, lazy storytelling.

>>213556655
If you think something wasn't explained, when half the posts in the thread are people explaining that exact thing, then you do, objectively, require the characters to stand around explaining the plot. So just dont watch it, or imagine the witch is stealing their midichlorians.

>>213555438
>a whole month of a witch keeping people hostage in a catatonic state, feeding them a tiny amount of cold soup per day and actively sucking out their life force shouldn't have any consequences for the victims because.... I want a happy ending!!!

You have the taste of a 4-year old girl.

>>213548672
it came out 2 days ago and the gay pedophile one from WKUK made it

>>213556284
I fucking wish this was a Lynching of general movie going audiences the likes of which has never been seen before. Instead it's just non-linear storytelling with a lot of plot holes.

>>213556713
A 4 year old girl could write a better movie. In fact, House 1977 is a better movie.

>>213556570
Yeah, but the one kid who would be the school shooter is the most innocent of all the characters

>>213556713
I didn't say I wanted a happy ending, I wanted gratification and catharsis. A film like BRIEF ENCOUNTER is extremely sad at the end but it is still carthatic and fulfilling. You're just too immature to have an adult like conversation about it, and that's evident by the mocking tone of your greentext.

>>213552015
I'm talking about discussion with depth you troglodyte

>>213556778
Those days are over for /tv/ it's nitpick general now.

>>213555073
Every single thing from witches to creepy kids.

>>213556068
>Paint the same as everyone else
>Let's standardized thinking outside of the box
Conservative Americans are soulless

>>213556662
I understand your points perfectly well. I just disagree that this is an evil wins movie. Evil wins would be the witch getting away with it. She doesn't. By your logic any movie where the killer kills people before getting caught is also an evil wins movie.

>>213555099
We are past that kind of formulaic shit as a species.

>Cinema used to be great art. The general formula used to be: a train arrives at the station, it feels like it will run you over, then you realize it's just a moving picture.

>>213556831
A painter of the quality like on the left is extremely rare to find. Paintings also need to be seen in real life, not digitized in on a screen. Spend some time in real art galleries and you'll quickly be able to see the difference when you're looking at the canvas, the paint, how it appears in the light. I could unironically paint like the one on the right with a little practice. It would on the other hand take years to paint even close to the one on the left.

>>213556867
Catastrophes don't have happy endings. You can't put a load of kids into a catatonic state even for just a month and not have everyone traumatised and hollowed-out for the rest of their lives.

>>213556460
okay
your gripe is
>it wasnt scary
if youre a man over the age of 24, nothing should be.
>booring
it wasnt, if it was, most people wouldnt have fun with it
>last act of barbarian was bad
you got filtered, that was the most fun part about it
>comedy ruined the horror
wrong, comedy and horror are the perfect combination of genres

>>213556772
The catharsis is the witch being ripped to shreds by her own "weapons." You want the fairy tale love conquers all ending with Alex crying and his tears restoring his parents to health.

>>213556867
In my very post I said it isn't an evil wins movie. On the contrary, I said it is an evil is defeated by a taste of it's own medicine movie, which I liked. What I took issue with is how it was resolved, which is where I believe we can agree to disagree. You also [sic]'d my quote in a few spots where I used correct grammar. I think you're taking my criticism's a bit too personally, for some reason. So I'll repeat that I don't think you understand my points very well and we'll leave it at that.

>>213556869
Formula is the only way you can actually express yourself uniquely and personally as an artist. The fact you don't understand that is proof you have low taste.

>>213556923
>You want the fairy tale love conquers all ending with Alex crying and his tears restoring his parents to health.
Yeah actually that is exactly what I wanted.

it was a great movie and easily better than anything else that was released this year with the possible exception of Warfare but the two are so different as to not really compete directly in my mind
The story was told very well. The acting was great. The standout for me was the tweaker who did the best interpretation of a tweaker I've ever seen.
The theme of the movie was clearly alcoholism as some anon astutely pointed out Thursday night.
The witch is the embodiment of alcoholism as experience by Cregger with his father.
It's a parasitic presence that enters your home and destroys family life, and childhood innocence turning adults into listless zombies and children into their caretakers
The end had to be cathartic because Cregger started writing this after Trevor died falling off a balcony while drunk. This brought up childhood memories about the sickness he was familiar with and through the movie and its conclusion he sought catharsis.
It's also why the parents are institutionalized at the end. Substance abuse can break you in ways that can't be fixed and the longer it goes on, the more damage it does.
So we have a movie with a genuine emotional core, that's well acted, character development is exceptional, has a satisfying if bittersweet conclusion, and the story telling is fantastic.
Now some people here don't like it or claim not to like it. That's a shame but its definitely a "them" problem

>>213556895
Not happy ending != evil wins.
>>213556958
>In my very post I said it isn't an evil wins movie. On the contrary, I said it is an evil is defeated by a taste of it's own medicine movie, which I liked. What I took issue with is how it was resolved, which is where I believe we can agree to disagree. You also [sic]'d my quote in a few spots where I used correct grammar. I think you're taking my criticism's [sic] a bit too personally, for some reason. So I'll repeat that I don't think you understand my points very well and we'll leave it at that.
"It's" is not the possessive form of "it" you fucking dullard. All of my sics were correct.

>>213556923
>The catharsis is the witch being ripped to shreds by her own "weapons."
They stood around in the basement alll movie: how exacty were they weapons? Her death at their hands would have been more fulfilling if she actually had used them as weapons but she never did. Just another example of the films awful writing, Cregger is a hack.

>I'm going to stand here and loudly proclaim that I didn't like it

>>213556923
not him, but the ending is definitely a bummer, not cathartic — which makes it sort of feel like a24 nihilistic atheist crap

>>213556912
>scary movies shouldnt be scary over the age of 24
are you retarded anon, a movie can be scary without being expressively horrifying. It can disturb, disgust, or disorient and strike a nerve in that manner. Weapons delivered on none of these fronts.
>muh normie people thought it wasnt boring
fallacy 0/10
>last act of barbarian was fun
It wasnt very fun to see a movie with a decent couple of ideas and tense moments to throw itself out of the window with the capeshit tier action sequence and poorly written "muh misogyny" man. But its the narrative that shits itself really, the second half is just a much poorer story than the first half and by the time the three quarters mark is hit, it has lost all sense of horror for a mostly mediocre monster chase.
>comedy ruined the horror
In THIS movie the comedy ruined the horror. Evil Dead II is one of my favorite movies, I have no problem with the genres being mixed. I have a problem when one sacrifices for the other. EDII manages to balance the comedy and the drama in a perfectly fine manner because the horror set pieces set it up to be uncanny. Weapons has a tendency to want to play itself mostly straight and then a slapstick moment or a mostly shallow joke just kills the more "serious" or "horrifying" elements from scenes prior. It doesn't make the movie better, it makes it obnoxious instead. Then the ending goes full retard with the Rage Zombie kids chasing the vvitch.
2/10 overall you can do better

>>213551834
>her house

>>213557032
>name calling
Yeah, you have taken this personally. You've also proven yourself to be a pedant. Take care.

>>213557016
NOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU ENJOY IT ANON THERE WAS A FLOATING AR 15 SO ITS TOTALLY ANTI GUN ARGHGHSHF THE WOKES WANT TO MAKE GUNS AWAY FUCK THIS MOVIEEEE ARGHH I DIDNT EVEN GET JUMPSCARED SO IT WASNT SCARY

>>213556923
the movie was about alcoholism and cregger knows that the damage it does is irreversible
the catharsis was that alex managed to get away. his parents were too far gone

>>213549014
Yeah, people are angry that Zach completely wasted so many great avenues of storytelling just to make the most infuriatingly generic horror movie possible. You fucking moron. Pied Piper was staring him in the fucking face and he was too stupid to seize it. Even worse, Gladys looks exactly like a reworked Pied Piper. Fuck's sake.

>>213557016
It's multifaceted. It's about grief, loss, coping, etc.

>>213557095
see >>213557016
its a You problem. YOU didnt like it, the movie is objectively good.

>>213557108
>reddit frogs adds nothing to the discussion of the thread
Now this is a shock.

>>213549014

i recognized her voice almost immediately then i googled the IMDB and saw she was from Uncle Buck, that's so fucking awesome

I didn't even know she was still acting

>>213557016
tl;dr

>>213557141
Cool story bro, I am claiming I do not like the film you are correct. Thank you for your meaningless confirmation.
>movie had le symbolism so it is objecitvely good
lmao

>>213557032
This isn't a professional journal or news article, did you really need to [sic] an anon's quote's? You knew what he meant, and you did completely overlook his point that he didn't believe it was an evil wins movie. I wasn't even part of the discussion but even I could see he never stated that.

>>213557016
people proudly announce that they didn't like a great movie that I enjoyed as if they expect me to run around in a panic "fixing" it for them
I enjoyed the movie. I'm happy with the outcome.
If some anon didn't like the movie, so fucking what? The movie is already out. What now?

>>213557104
>name calling
>Yeah, you have taken this personally.
I wasn't saying anything about your feelings on the movie. You're making the most basic grammar mistakes while claiming to be grammatically correct.

>>213557146
NOOOOOO NOT THE MCFLUFFIN REDDIT FROGS!!! HOW DARE THEY BE POSTED IN THIS THREAD AHHHHHH THEY RUINED THE WHOLE DISCUSSION!!! EVERYTHING IS OVER NOW!!! I CAN’T BELIEVE IT WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO BE A JADED FAGGOT NOW EVERYONE MUST KNOW THAT I HATED THE MOVIE I JUST WATCHED AS A 240P CAMRIP

>>213549712

watching this movie gas 100% shamalan vibes.

which isn't a good thing, and then we find out that the Barbarian director and writer didn't write this, he just outbid Jordan Peele to get the script, which means it doesn't have any type of similar vibes to that movie either, just a few cameos from Barbarian

>>213557178
It's a shame you didn't like the movie
I did. I enjoyed it a lot. if I hadn't enjoyed it, that would suck, but I did!
now what?

>>213557016
>The end had to be cathartic because Cregger started writing this after Trevor died falling off a balcony while drunk.
LOL at actually believing this narrative.

>the people that enjoyed this slop are jak posters
Kek, now I get it. Only braindead zoomers liked this garbage.

>>213557235
the hallmark of a shyamalan movie is that no one talks or acts in a natural way
in the 6th sense it wasn't so irritating because the MC was dead and his wife being weird about it makes sense in the context
for everything else he's made it's been unbearable
shyamalan fundementally can't write normal human interactions

>>213554577
>Fantastic Four is a better film
kys

>>213557258
damn you posted "LOL"
I don't like the movie anymore. why did you do this to me, anon, whyyyyyyyy :'(

>>213557258
It makes perfect sense if his interpretation is right. Zach knows he will never touch alcohol again (the witch is dead) but he’s still surrounded by the damage it’s done (the catatonic and dead people)

>>213557015
And that would be a shit ending

>>213557241
But it's not just him, I didn't like it either.

>>213557235
>the Barbarian director and writer didn't write this, he just outbid Jordan Peele to get the script
lol you are mistaken. zach wrote the film. jordan peeles studio, Monkeypaw, was in a bidding war with Warner.

>>213557016
>exceptional character development
The only characters that had an arc were Alex and Archer. They make up less than half of the film. Justine is the same obnoxious cunt by the end of the film, everyone else turns into zombies.
>genuine emotional core
What is that? Alex is the only character with an emotional beat to the story. Justine is a bitch who is a cunt to everybody. Paul is angry cop man and has no narrative pay off. Archer is mostly just there to drive the plot, but he doesn't get much of an emotional payoff besides reuniting with his son (who still seems like an autist zombie so not even delivering on that point.)
>story telling is fantastic
lmao the movie is filled with padding and the nonlinear narrative does nothing to further the impact of the story outside of withholding information from the viewer

>>213557320
I don't give two shits about his dumb little movie, Zach had Trevor suicided.

>>213557349
sorry you didn't like it anon
I did and that's good enough for me

>>213557285

i honestly didn't even know about this movie until a coworker who likes horror mentioned it and that Barbarian director was making it, THAT alone peaked my interest.

its a shame because now that director's reputation is ruined for me, and seeing the overwhelming support of this film reminds me of Talk To Me a few years ago, another PG13 tier film that just happened to get a R rating

Insidious tier shit has never been more than 1 or 2 scenes of chilling visuals, but no real pay off

the "creepy walking" was better in It Follows

I heard the villain gets ripped to shreds, is it just implied or do you see detailed gore?

>>213557241
I am happy that you enjoyed the film, does that mean I should not express my disdain with said film? The difference between us is that you are using your opinion of the film as being "objectively good".
>>213557241

>>213557016
>all the seething replies to this completely anodyne post
what do these shrieking idiots expect from you? their admission money back? to recant?

>>213557235
>the Barbarian director and writer didn't write this, he just outbid Jordan Peele to get the script
He did write it, right after finishing shooting Barbarian. Then Jordan Peele lost the bidding war and couldn't get to produce it. I have no idea where you got those "facts" from. Peele and Cregger are friends, used to live close together, Peele was in touch as Cregger was writing Weapons, probably got to read early drafts and then ultimately got cucked in a bidding war.

>>213557388
Have you ever seen the Halloween episode of Smiling Friends? It’s exactly like that

>>213557344

remind me, didn't Barbarian get written and directed by 1 guy?

so who's this director then? or am i mistaken

>>213557369
>I like it so I wont respond to the criticism
Alright retard you have said your piece, no need to repeat yourself.

>>213557394
you can express whatever you want, anon
to me the movie was very good and that's all I need
if I had to wait for every anon here to approve before I could enjoy something, I'd never enjoy anything
sorry you didn't like it. not much I can do for you

>>213557413
Nice lol

>>213557403

i will forever say Peele would have made a better film

>>213557400
>what do you expect from a text based internet forum, a response to your posts?

>>213557260
plenty of you niggers have outed yourselves as blumhouse shills ITT already, citing Conjuring universe as great and well made horror movies, calling them art, even.

you enjoyed the nun and annabelle, your opinion on horror films is worthless

>>213557430
>I hated it so I'll flop on the floor like a petulant child expecting everyone to rush and comfort me
you people would really be thieves of joy if anyone paid you any mind

>>213557470
No anon the Conjuring is great because it gives me a happy ending.

>>213557016
cregger won
weapons won
fantastic four lost
trannies lost

>>213557353
Kinda sus that 2:17 am is all over this movie when that was the same time he took a swan dive off the balcony

>>213557473
I think you might actually have some sort of mental disability. The overwhelming consensus for this film is positive, your idea of an insult makes no sense. Why would people try to rush and comfort the person who disagrees with the general consensus? I understand you are too stupid to respond to my criticism of what I said about why you enjoyed the film, but if you are going to write a pissbaby response make sure there is some veracity and validity to your diet banter.

Get these hotheads outta here

>>213557436
>projecting on an anonymous website
This is a discussion board anon, not everyone is seeking validation for their taste in film like you are.

>>213557241
>i like film, so film good

Timmy killed Trevor. Zach is innocent.

>>213557584
>I hated it harrumph
man I'm sorry I didn't engage in your well thought out criticism

>>213557532

there's also room 217 from the book version of Shining

also Valentine's Day massacre school shooting

alot of possible connections

but that doesn't make it a good movie

>>213557584
I enjoyed the movie
there seems to be 2 or 3 people having a complete melty over this. not sure what you want me to do about it
>"you say you enjoyed it which implies it's objectively good. fuck you!!!!!"
like what do you want me to say to that?
ok anon. it's all going to be ok. you win. I didn't like the movie. you can go back to your fantastic four thread now

>>213557649
Don't worry about it, it is clear not all of us are afforded the luxury of being able to articulate their thoughts with depth behind them.
But hey, say you like the film again! That is always a great addition to a discussion.

>>213557549

>the overwhelming consensus is its GREAT

oh okay so i guess Talk To Me is the quintessential horror movie, i wonder why nothing like it has been made since, since ya know Hollywood loves to copycat success....

or maybe just maybe obviously overt Tranny awards and online comments don't translate into actual financial success.

couldn't possibly be a bad movie

>>213557706
sorry you didn't like the movie, anon
not much I can do about it

>>213557711
Hello speedreader welcome to the thread, I was pointing out the fact that their idea of an insult was incorrect, not that the film was good because it had a positive critical reception. The movie is shit.

>>213557784
movie is good

>>213557241
>>213557141
>>213557703
Retard-kun?

>>213557016
not only is the movie good
all the people who are angry about it in this thread are acting like retards
retards shouldn't be allowed to enjoy good things so this works out well

>>213557861
>all the movie who are angry about it in thread are acting like retards
>I LIKE MOVIE SO MOVIE GOOD
>yeah if you didnt like it aww sucks but like it so heheh now what
ahahah hello shill

>>213557906
don't even need to shill
this shit sells itself. I just enjoyed the movie too
not only did you not enjoy the movie but you've decided to spend the rest of your natural life telling everyone on this board that you didn't enjoy it
now that's lose/lose
you didn't enjoy the movie and you're miserable and stuck in this thread

>>213557861
I thought it was a good watch that ultimately fails as a movie. Still liked it doe. I think?

>>213557016
I like the alcoholism metaphor. is that real or did you pull it out your ass?

>>213557972
>you came to the the thread that is based on the movie you watched to share your opinion on said movie and then have a discussion about your opinions
Damn you got me, and here you are doing the exact same thing but with a different opinion. Great self own retard.

>>213558036
but I'm happy cause I enjoyed it and you're mad cause you didn't
I enjoy spreading my positive opinion over a movie that I enjoyed. and of course I also enjoyed the movie. It's all alpha on this end :^)

>>213557972
>you dont like a movie so youre miserable
Never understood this cope. You can dislike something and it doesn't impact your mood. Are you autistic?

>>213558082
And I enjoy rightfully calling you a mouthbreather because of my negative opinion on said movie! Wowie zowie guess we figured this out! :)

>>213558107
>I disliked this movie and now everyone needs to hear about how much I disliked it forever I'm having a great time haha I'm totally not miserable
now that's a cope

>>213558141
>no u
>dont talk about the topic in the thread of the topic
Autism, thank you for the confirmation.

Zach Hadel should sue Zach Cregger.

>>213558136
if you say so. hope you enjoy the next movie so you're not as mad, anon :)

>>213558169
sorry you didn't like the movie anon
there are other movies out there so I think you'll be fine

>>213558176
Anon, just like you created a delusional head canon of the movie being good, you are creating a schizophrenic narrative of me being upset that a shitty movie exists. Take your meds :)

>movie comes out that isn't millennial nostalgia bait or capeshit
>endless complaining
classic

>>213558210
It's alright Zach! Sorry you have autism and can't come up with a response worth merit besides repeating yourself like a fucking npc over and over. People are going to talk about the film in the threads related to the ones they are posting in. Enjoy the newfag experience!

>>213558248
>movie comes out that people dont like
>people say they dont like it
classic

>>213549183
turns out its just a ripoff Stephen King zombie story.

>>213558175
Channing Creager should sue Zach Cregger

>>213555969
nothing was conjured in that movie

>>213556186
dont worry the prequel/sequel is on the way

>>213556231
you get breadcrumbs for 1st half and then the lame reveal. the movie then steps on the gas.

>>213556302
dont believe everything online. probably just the hype machine blowing up a low budget bland horror movie.

>>213557403
Oh it does seem dumb as shit and nu-American like Peele's retardation, makes sense.

>>213557532
>Kinda sus that 2:17 am is all over this movie when that was the same time he took a swan dive off the balcony
They're mocking you, what else?