In the 50 years of capeshit movies I have never seen the sentiment “it doesn’t need to make money!” for any of them. Literally insane.

$225M production + $125M marketing means the flick has to make $350M * 1.5 = $525M to break even

>>213553928
So it's made like $50 million? That seems really low.

>>213553928
You know theatres get a cut too, right?

>need to make money
he doesn't say that, he said that it didn't need to make that to be profitable meaning the movie have made plenty of profits already

oh yeah, that movie happened

>>213553928
>$225M production + $125M marketing
A significant amount of that would have been paid to other Warner Bros subsidiaries, so whatever profit those subsidiaries made would have gone right back to Warner Bros as if they had never spent it in the first place.

>>213553900 (OP)
that's biggest bunch of copium I've seen from James "pedo" Gunn
So happy the PCU is crashing hard before it even began

>>213553900 (OP)
To many, firing Cavill and rebooting a franchise only to make less money globally than MoS would be considered a failure. Especially when MoS was supposedly underwhelming itself.

>>213554121
>Especially when MoS was supposedly underwhelming itself.
this is something the Gunntroons can never explain. how does a movie that made less money than one that came out 12 years ago be considered as anything but a massive failure?
and this is without factoring inflation

>>213553900 (OP)
The fact he’s getting super defensive and can’t even give a ballpark estimate on its profitability proves it’s a flop. It even has the 45 day streaming stamp of failure.
>brand damage!
Literally has never been a thing
>b-b-b-but mos had nolan!
Is Gunn himself not highly regarded, to the point it was considered impossible for him to do any wrong
>t-t-they hate Americans!
Lmao

>>213553928
>* 1.5
Why?
Also isn't much money made off merch or by seeing through services and rights?

>>213553928
>$225M production + $125M marketing
That's just the US marketing, add another 100 million for international marketing.

So it's $450 million-ish

Since theaters takes a 50% cut (give or take) it has to make $900M to break even.

>>213554238
Gunn always has to deflect and blame something for his shitty DC flicks not performing well.
He did it for the suicide squad sequel as well by blaming it on covid

>>213554310
Theaters don't show movies for free.

What's the cope?

>>213553900 (OP)
Box office doesn't matter to studios as much as you think. Once a film is released they will continue to profit off it for decades to come, Universal is still making money from Dracula and Frankenstein which were made way back in the 30's. Every film will ultimately break even and turn s profit at some point.

>>213553900 (OP)
You'd have to be idiots to run the capeshit genre into the ground so fucking hard that the posterchild for the entire thing isnt guaranteed to make that much you bunch of fucking nonces.

>>213553900 (OP)
The AEW of movies

>>213553900 (OP)
and yet he didn't say how much it did need to make

>>213554397

>>213554357
>What's the cope?
>>213554397
>Box office doesn't matter to studios as much as you think.

>>213554397
People like dracula and Frankenstein enough to keep coming back to them decades later
in 15 years is anybody going to be saying I should put that eternals movie on for my kid, I liked that when I was his age

>>213553900 (OP)
>pays hamas to murder your family

>>213553900 (OP)
>I have never seen the sentiment “it doesn’t need to make money!
When someone lose they can either accept it or cope. Gunnbros decided to go with the latter.

Gunn is a sick and weird guy

>>213553928
Oh sweet it's another "anonymous internet nobodies mistake rule of thumb for estimating profit with mathematical law for establishing actual profit" episode

>Rebirth made 800m on a 180m budget
What the actual fuck was Gunn doing. His movie looks nothing more than solid TV content, it’s baffling how the budget ended up being anything over 200m.

>>213555214
>Every Jurassic World movie making less than the previous one
flop

>>213553900 (OP)
It's not about money it's about redeeming DC brand.

>>213554121
>>213554193
It’s not the 2010s anymore, MoS came out during the height of capeshit, riding off the coattails of The Dark Knight trilogy and The Avengers. Superman 2025 came out in a time were people are fed up with capeshit and will only watch it if has nostalgia bait, and it also is carrying the terrible reputation of the last 10 years of DC movies.

>>213555702
That’s Gunn’s own fault for making baseline capeshit, and also Superman historically underperforms. Covid is a legitimate excuse for BO damage but when you see other movies doing just fine right now that’s on you for not making a better movie that exceeds expectations.

>>213555702
The exact same people who are prasing superman are the same tards who praise even the new mcu shows and movies. Quit being disingenuous to defend this pedoslop film. Let the shit sink

Is everyone blind or something? S2025’s trailers straight sucked, and then the movie itself is like Thor 4 or Black Adam with a different coat of paint. There’s absolutely nothing to suggest this universe will improve. Not to mention it’s clear anyone with self respect in the industry doesn’t want to work for Gunn so he’s stuck with yes-men writers and directors. The only positive move he can make is merging with The Batman, and that will most likely drag Batman down than the other way around.

>>213553928
>$225M production
that had to be money laundering

>>213554193
I’m not especially invested in this shit but
1) the budgets are largely fictional
- we know this because there’s certain rules in some countries that don’t allow Hollywood accounting, the UK for instance, and US films that shot there have a completely different budget sheet when they have to get real vs their US numbers.

2) What “underperform” means is relative to expected earnings. It’s like the stockmarket; you can be reliably making billions but it’s slightly less than the investors expected so stonks tank.
MoS is in the era of peak capeshit. The suits expected them all to be billy or better basically.
These days capeshit has been delivering bomb after bomb. Having mediocre numbers might actually be “beating expectations” and therefore good.

>>213554310
If you have 400M and put it on a 7% compound in any bank for a year you get 30M profit guaranteed, without the hassle of managing a movie production wuth 2000 people for 8 months
You aim to make a lot more you fucking nigger

>>213553900 (OP)
Why aren’t you guys this obsessed about BO with Fantastic Four as you are with Superman ?

>>213554121
I was really hoping this movie would obliterate Man of Steel, instead it'll be several more years of fanboy retards calling two flops a success

>>213556285
Gunn said this is supposed to be Superman summer

>>213553900 (OP)
That isn't what that says anywhere.

>>213556285
>why are people not talking about the movie that's bombing because no one cares about the movie
Gee I wonder

>>213556294
And which movie will be the comp now. S2025 was fighting MOS (and lost badly) with S2025 ending up in the 610-640M WW range, the next challenge /comp would be Supergirl against Wonder Woman or BVS, which, uh.....

When is the DCU gonna start beating Snyder?

>>213556285
>whataboutisms

>>213556517
Better question:
When will capeshit finally & definitively die?

>>213555702
Guardians of the Gaylaxy 3 made a bunch of money despite coming out during this "capeshit fatigue" phase you speak of.
Why doesn't Gunn simply make a good DC movie?

>>213555702
Gunnjeet cope

>>213556612
Lmao I don't blame you for forgetting but he did his DC equivalent already. The Suicide Squad flopped hard and yet DC still saw it fit to give him the helm of the DCEU. At this point, I don't feel bad at all for the current state of WB/DC. They have been making nothing but bad decisions for over a decade now.

>>213553928
>1.5
It's 2.5

>>213554121
Sony killed off and rebooted Garfield's Spider-Man after getting $709 million.
Box office subreddit's average prediction was $850 million LMAO.
https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1lao4n4/weekend_casual_discussion_thread/

Guys move on. Superman was a massive hit and now we focus on Supergirl which will absolutely make more than Wonder Woman. Probably even a billion

>>213553900 (OP)
Anon, they're in too deep. Ever heard of sunk cost fallacy? They invested billions into a cinematic universe before the first movie even released, which is but typical WB/DC so now they simply CAN'T afford to just admit that this new Superman movie is a colossal failure and they will just double down on throwing shit against the wall until something sticks, hence why there's a fucking Clayface movie in production right now. It's over for DC and has been for a long time.

>>213556792
What arbitrary, pedantic and stupid comparisons. There were similar movies releasing near the same time so this will make the same at the box office as Wonder Woman. What insanity.

>>213554340
The $363 million production budget according to the Ohio state government.
$200 marketing budget accoring to the Hollywood reporter.
It's a box office flop.

>>213556814
Why "Colossal"? It obviously isn't a The Flash-tier diaster at the box office that lost millions of dollars, at worse it "underperformed"

>>213556792
Superman made less than MoS.
Supergirl is against Wonder Woman's $872 million.
Clayface vs Aquaman's billie.
Next ensemble DC movie vs Batman v Superman's $872 million.

>>213556903
It is a collosal failure because The Flash wasn't setting up a whole new universe that is even MORE expansive than the one before, because it now includes movies, games, shows, comics, everything and that it was supposed to be the huge rebirth that DC was clamouring for and it ended up being a fucking mediocre piece of trash discarded after two weeks in theatres. It is a colossal failure with the context behind it. Before it even released, DC had already filmed a sequel (Supergirl) and a whole big-budget HBO show about the Green Lanterns introduced in it.

>>213556285
Both movies flopped.

>>213553900 (OP)
That's not what he's saying. He's saying he's not expecting the first film in a series to break a billion, not that it didn't make it's money back.

Holy fuck you guys are morons.

>>213556985
Now i understand when critics said there was a scene with Minecraft larva, and why can't just... you know... fly up?

>>213553900 (OP)
Lost to sinners + weapons, buh bye Gunn the spinmaster ped

>>213557027
black hole

>>213557070
Why isn't the black hole then affecting the dog, or the larva? Or anything else?

>>213556872
assuming most of the 363 mill weren't sponsor money

>ummm actually sweetie it doesn't even NEED go break even

>more domestic than man of murder
>but it did le more ww box office!
You are so goddam retarded is not even funny snydertrannies

>>213557027
He's still suffering from Kryptonite exposure right before that
How about watching the fucking movie before nitpicking

>>213557089
It is

>>213557203
No.

>>213554340
making slop with our tax dollars, amazing.

Dam snydertrannies being suicidal again
Why is that?

>>213557183
>still less tickets sold than mandrill of seal

>>213554340
Thats not how that works trannoid
The cult keep posting estimated lmao
Also we know MOS did less than Shazam with profits. S25 will be doing more than 40m+

>>213554006
There's something wrong with a system where you have to spend $000,000,000 to profit $50,000,000. Even the Donner Superman films recouped their budgets back many times over.

>>213557330
*spend $400,000,000

The state of Gunnjeets grows increasingly unhinged as the movie flopping is dawning on everyone.

It needs to make at least $6 billion for Gunn to avoid getting shot in a Hollywood backlot by the Judeo-Masons

Snydertrannies are suicidal lmao
You love to see it

>>213556985
Superman is literally about to make 600 million the first month. So it’s good. And it did great domestically

>>213556985
I wanted to watch Superman but got some GoTG slop instead.

I find it amusing that people only compare Superman with MoS like those are the only two movies that ever mattered. It's obvious to me that WB originally envisioned MoS as a follow-up to the success of the Dark Knight movies, what with Nolan's name all over the marketing and MoS coming out one year after TDKR. So I imagine alarm bells immediately going off when at WB when MoS made HALF of what TDKR made (that was a 1B movie). Not to mention the Avengers being a 1.5B movie and the polarizing reaction to MoS.
Meanwhile Superman has released in an environment where Hollywood blockbusters in general (and DC films in particular) becoming catastrophic flops is the norm. So for it to make almost but not quite as much as MoS (but with a better audience reaction), it's no wonder they seem optimistic at this stage. At least it's not as bad as the Flash, Blue Beetle, or Batwoman

>>213557520
Nolan's movies aren't guaranteed billion dollar movies. Nolan got the job of producing Superman because the studio simply had faith in him. Not that they expected TDKR numbers from it. Avengers have nothing to do with Superman and if anything just drew people away from DC to Marvel instead with stiff competition.

>Meanwhile Superman has released in an environment where Hollywood blockbusters in general (and DC films in particular) becoming catastrophic flops is the norm.
Plenty of movies aren't catastrophic flops. WalMartMan is though.

>>213557520
And they hired James Gunn because he sold himself as the potential replacement for Kevin Feige, and as the idea guy that gave all the smart ideas to Feige, and the guy that made 800m with his Guardians movies.

Superman 2025 is one of the worst superhero movies of all times. James Gunn, who excels in directing overdone violence, out of place quips, undeserved melodrama and perverted sex obsession brings all his trademark traits to this rendition of Superman. This isn't a Superman movie, it's a Marvel/Guardians of Galaxy movie with Superman in the middle of it. In fact, Gunn seems to enjoy writing Justice Gang far more than he does writing Superman. The former which ran off two jokes that were repeated ad nauseam throughout the movie.

What makes Superman a compelling character is gone in Gunn's sloppy adaption. He's not particularly strong, he's not particularly wise, he's a poor leader, he's extremely narcissist and gets easily emotional. And this is supposed to be a seasoned Superman. It's almost like Gunn was projecting his own shitty flawed character on to Superman. The only missing touch would be if Lois was a minor.

The action scenes are just a complete mess of CG blob. Superman is basically a rag doll that gets thrown all over the place and nothing in this movie has weight or meaning to it, particularly in its action. There's a scene where Lois and Mr Terrific break into enemy HQ and the whole ordeal is of course settled with a very catchy music montage of all the enemies being dismantled with utter ease. The next scene is of Clark trying to keep a CGI baby from drowning in lava with his deus ex dog arriving in timely manner to save him again. This is straight out of a Marvel movie and has no place in a Superman movie.

This rendition of Lex is also his most shallow depiction. There is no nuance or intelligence to this Lex. He's not particularly shrewd and constantly spills out his plans for everyone to find out. He throws into temper tantrums just like Superman and starts to sob and cry because Superman is better than him. Where is the elegance and intelligence of Luthor? This is basically a spoiled rich kid battling another spoiled strong kid. 1/10, MCU slop.

>>213557520
Green Lantern was sandwiched between the two Nolan's Dark Knight movies, it got a great boost and earned $670 million, right? Like Captain Marvel with the Avengers.
Deadpool 3 got $1.3 billion, The Batman got $770 million after the pandemic.

>>213553900 (OP)
The only benchmark that mattered was beating MoS and it didn't

>>213553900 (OP)
That's not what he's saying, retard. He's saying that the 650 figure is wrong because nobody would make a film that expensive if it's the first one in a franchise. They would only do that if it was a sequel and the first was a major success.

>WalMartMan flopped
Hopefully the next reboot is an actual Superman movie again.

>>213557700
But we know how expensive the movie actually is.

>it doesn't even need to break even to be considered successful
Aight Gunn

>>213557760
you work for the accounting department in the studio?

>>213557411
The faggot playing the I AM A SURGEON ding this face provokes such atavistic hatred within me. I'd be content seeing somebody bash the bitch surgeon's head in

>>213557646
Green Lantern didn't have Nolan's name in the advertising, did it? Funny how you mention that one when Snyder's Watchmen flop was in the same situation and may have supported your argument better. But you don't want to admit that flopped, do you?

>>213557669
There are people that are really convinced that WB is satisfied with Gunn making less money than Snyder.

>>213557959
A lot of movies have Nolan's name in marketing, even director, without making billions. Dunkirk comes to mind.

>>213554397
this isn't true. Disney pivoted after so many flops and people got fired.

>>213557520
>Superman with MoS
Because both are Superman flicks.
Plus Gunntroons wouldn't shut the fuck up about Snyder.
So I'm ecstatic the PCU is flopping hard.

If this was 2013 it would not be a success but today it is. The entire business model had changed with streaming and audience decline.

>>213558532
>audience decline.
*laughs in James Cameron*

Just make movies people want to watch

>>213558023
Well it felt like WB gave Snyder full control over MoS and basically just told him "make it like Nolan's Batman movies" and he basically followed his own vision. Having Zod as the main villain felt like a ballsy decision on his part when WB probably wanted Luthor. But after the movie's release, it felt like WB panicked and made a mess of the next film. WB demanded Batman, Luthor, WW, etc so we got that instead of a proper MoS2. Then when that movie saw a steep box office drop, WB execs steered away from the tone of the Snyder films. What they did to Snyder during Justice League was pretty messed up though

Guardians of the galaxy which came out a year after MOS made more money. You Snyder jeets going to claim a talking raccoon and tree is bigger then Superman? Everyone thought the movie was going to bomb and why Amanda Seyfried turned the movie down

>>213558584
Let’s compare a movie made for 3D to get people to go to theaters. Those only movies get people to go in mass numbers. That or TikTok trend shit like Barbieheimer

>>213558601
>MCU slop did well in the 2010's
Yeah what else is new? Feige could shit in a platter and people would flock to it and praise the taste. That strategy no longer works.

>>213558601
But you gunntroons say that the 2010s was the peak of capeshit.
You pedo loving retards can't even keep your arguments straight!

>>213558670
Cope. A fucking movie with a bunch of D list characters did better then Superman coming off the Dark Knight series high

>>213558762
It was if you didn’t make shit people hated and the movie didn’t drop 67% your second weekend

>>213557717
>Superflop can't even dethrone Josstice League
>Superslut releases next year

The DCU is dead on arrival

>>213553900 (OP)
And how is the MCU going?

>>213558847
>>213558847
>make shit people hated
Cool. Now explain why superman25 made less than MoS UNADJUSTED??

>>213558944
Explain why Superman couldn’t beat a talking raccoon during the same time period

>>213558806
People don't care about comic book popularity.

>Guys please go see my movie before they dump it on digital

>>213553900 (OP)
Doesn't matter it BTFO 3 Marvel movies this year

>>213559032
Explain why Superflop couldn't even dethrone Josstice League

>>213559046
If Marvel put Ant Man out two weeks after MOS it wouldn’t gotten ass raped. MOS for heart by World War Z on its second weekend

>>213559109
You’re brown. Why you have zero comprehension ability

>>213559032
Cause it was a polarising movie? At least that's what Gunntroons tell me.
But wasn't your pedogod Gunn supposed to come and revive the DCU and not make it worse?
>>213559151
It's time to stop lil gunntroon. Your shitty flick couldn't beat one from 12 years ago.

>>213559316
It’s highest grossing domestic Superman movie ever and going to end close to 400 mill domestically. That is repairing the brand. They only countries it bombed in was Asian countries. Oh, well

>>213559387
>It’s highest grossing domestic Superman movie ever
Now adjust for inflation lil pedotroon gunner

You retards do realise that even in some alternative world where Superman had made 1.2 billion it wouldn't matter to Snyderfans? Lol they'd simply go 'aah yes, slop made for the filthy unwashed masses, Snyder movies were enjoyed by far less because they appealed to patricians like me'. The BO thing is simply a really easy own they can use to shit on Superman 2025 fans because MoS did make more and going on about contextual reasons as to why looks like nerdy hand wringing. In terms of meme shit, Snyderfags have won when it comes to BO

>>213559387
>only domestic collections count
>why?
>i-it just does!? M-kay?!!
lmao

>>213559537
>Superman 2025 fans
Those don't exist. Lol
>In terms of meme shit, Snyderfags have won when it comes to BO
You mean reality? Cause the hard fact is that S25 couldn't even reach MoS in terms of BO collection. And that's without taking inflation into account.

>>213559611
>Cause the hard fact is that S25 couldn't even reach MoS in terms of BO collection. And that's without taking inflation into account.
That's what I wrote.

>>213559042
Alcawk is cute

This guy is weird as fuck and his movies are cynical.

>>213559659
Looks like Will Poulter in drag. Lmfao

It’s not about making any money, it’s about rebuilding faith in dc and Superman has done that, clayface and supergirl are now primed for 1 billion Gunn is playing the smart game long game

>CHINK OVERLORDS PLEASE SAVE MOS FROM LOSING TO SUPERMAN
Pathetic chink lovers.

>>213553900 (OP)
Superman is a failure but it's not a catastrophic failure so for WB it might as well have grossed a billion but don't be mistaken, the DCU is dead in the water and they will focus on standalone projects in the future. Supergirl and Clayface and Lanterns will have setup scrubbed.

>>213559759
Based Chinese dabbing on Gunnjeets

>>213556990
He's saying the film doesn't have to make $650M to break even, nowhere in the image is making a billion even mentioned

Why are border hopping beaners loving this flick so much?

If this movie needs a billion to break even then MoS lost hundreds of millions too. You dumbasses know this, right?

>>213560016
Yea but MoS was more beloved by audiences than Superman so it was fine cause it built up goodwill going forward into the sequels, and Batman v Superman made 900 million. Huge wins all around until the fucking Josstice League

>>213560016
But Gunn was supposed to make DC great. Not make superflops.

>>213560066
>Batman v Superman made 900 million
>meanwhile cap 3 made over 1.2 billions and absolutely humiliated DCEU
It was joe over at that point.

>mfw when even the studio sabotage that was Josstice League made more money than WalMartMan
Snyder carried DC insanely hard

>>213554340
Thats a box-office bomb.
Expect WB to close off the capeshit

>>213560138
>a successful movie is not successful because [movie from different franchise by different studio featuring Spidey and RDJ] made more
Gunnjeets are so dumb. WB can now only dream of the profits they had during Snyder's reign.

Reminder that James Gunn said that almost all the expansive ideas that made the MCU a success like the Infinity Stones were his ideas and that Kevin Feige was preparing to be Feige's replacement, and that he'd do for Zaslav what he did for Feige (make the MCU a success).

So in light of that Superman just doing okey box office wise is a disaster. If the idea was for the DC movies to have good RT scores but mid box office money then Walter Hamada was already doing that for WB, and Hamada was all about making the movies cheaper. The only expensive movies he produced were Gunn's TSS and The Flash. The first because Gunn was brought by WB president and that guy gave Gunn free rein, the second because it was supposed to be the big reboot movie.

>>213553900 (OP)
its still selling out theaters dipshit if you look I can prove to you it sold out first two showings at my large urban city.

Most movies usually make low profits these days and now its about ancillary markets and goodwill money (toy sales rise, amusement parks see more interest with the superman rides and such).

>>213556285
Indians really want to see the White Man movie die.

>>213559316
>>213559611

>>213556346
>>213556375
>>213556533
>>213556985

>>213560012
Because they have sovl much like this movie.

>>213560110
He made DC beats Marvel, not the other way around with Snyder.
>from tdkr making over a billion to barely making more than thor 2 despite much higher budget

>>213560207
Buenos dias senorrrrr¡¡!!!

>>213560207
>and now its about ancillary markets and goodwill money (toy sales rise, amusement parks see more interest with the superman rides and such).
Which this movie wont be making any difference in. Henry Cavill figures still sell more than anything else with DC IP.

>>213560183
Yeah because they wanted to beat Marvel. They cared about that a lots.

>5th weekend
>Still only at 580
>617 theaters in the US dropped it the other day
>Goes digital on the 26th

What happened?

>>213560138
You mean the movie which was askhually the Avengers and had Spider-Man with RDJ, Evans and ScarJo made more money than Batman v Superman? Damn.

>>213560207
>its still selling out theaters dipshit if you look I can prove to you it sold out first two showings at my large urban city.
i lucked out then..me and my wife just bought tickets to tonights 7pm showing and so far, it's just us. cross your fingers, I hate crowds

>>213554006
Extra money will be made through streaming though

>>213560269
>>213560227
>makes less than a movie released 12 years ago
>b-but we beat Marvel
lol. K

>>213560310
Yeah I mean the movie with DC's holy trinity + easter eggs about Cyborg, Flash & Aquaman lose to a bunch of ragtags used to be nobody

>>213560269
>because they wanted to beat Marvel
Source? Pretty sure they just wanted to make money.

>>213553900 (OP)
All that aside, is the movie actually good or not?

What's up with the unhealthy habit some anons have to inflate the budget for movies to pretend they flopped?

>>213560227
But Gunntroons told me that capeshit was peak in the 2010s. So that means Snyder went up against peak MCU while pedogunn went up against a dying corpse and still failed miserably.
lmaoooooooooo

>>213560394
So then S2025 is pretty much a Justice League movie as well. It should be doing way better than it actually is.

>>213560310
>Batman v Superman
>Avengers
Batman > Superman ≥ Spiderman > X-men > Avengers
RDJ lifted ironman/avengers from obscurity for the general public. the fact that it beat Bats vs Superman would have sounded crazy in the 90s. so it was a big loss for DC for it to under-perform like that

>>213560469
Where's batman, ww, flash?

>>213560183
>>213560374
>Nintendo Switch outsells the PS4 and Xbox One by a large gap
>But it didn't sell as much as the NDS released years ago, therefore Nintendo is finished
Heh, better luck next time Nintendies, Sony always wins!

>>213560207
>capeshit
>soul
Lmao, superhero crap is the bottom of the barrel of any industry its in.
It gets the worst movies, the worst videogames, the worst comics and worst books.
Probably because the very concept of superheroes is utterly retarded.

>>213560474
>it was a big loss that they made millions off the movie
Cope Gunnjeet

>>213553928
They spent $10m on hanging a dummy Superman on top of the Shard in London.

>>213560394
>lose to a bunch of ragtags used to be nobody
Right. Spider-Man, Iron Man by RDJ, Evans and ScarJo were nobodies in 2016.
>the movie with DC's holy trinity
Then why did the movie with Superman and Green Lantern + two more DC superheroes lose to MoS with only Superman in it?

>>213560440
It's the cinematic equivalent of a "Live, love, laugh" poster, it feels like its written by the kind of millennial manchild who unironically calls himself a "pet parent".

>>213560440
It's pretty ass. Gunn is a one trick pedo of team up >>213557614
movies.

>>213560440
It's okay if
1) you're already a Superman fan
2) you set your expectations fairly low
3) you checked out of superhero crap a few years ago but still want a new one of those
4) you do not instantly freak out and get butt-blastedly offended at mild "woke" ideas
Lex Luthor was the best part for me

Twitter screencaps in the OP need to be automatic bans. Prove me wrong; Pro-tip: you can't.

>>213560465
And he lost, badly even. It's humiliating when a superman movie in 10s lost to fucking thor 2 in term of profit. And then BvS, the pinnacle of DC had to run from Captain America just make some money. It also has one of the highest second weekend drop kek.

>>213560474
>the fact that it beat Bats vs Superman would have sounded crazy in the 90s. so it was a big loss for DC for it to under-perform like that
But Gunn's Superman losing to Ant Man 2 with the $622 million box office is a big win for Gunn and DC.

>>213560636
Why are you saying two highly profitable Superman movies flopped while an actual flopped Gunnpedo Superman movie is a hit? How many layers of cope are you on?

>>213560660
>antman 2 budget is 130m
Guess who lost to antman too, buddy.

>Snyder Superman movies
Made the studio 100s of millions in profits and propelled movies like WW and Aquaman to high profits too

>Gunnpedo Superman movie
Indirectly caused 5 DC movies to flop beforehand, can't even out-earn 2013 MoS not even adjusting for inflation and cost the studio millions in losses.


But Gunn won right?

>>213560660
>But Gunn's Superman losing to Ant Man 2 with the $622 million box office is a big win for Gunn and DC.
Not at all...im not a Gunn fanboy either. Can't hit a billion with Superman in 2025...that's a failure no matter how they try to spin it

All this profit and you STILL couldn't beat the MCU at 10% of its power. Pathetic.

>>213560678
Nah, all DC trashs are flop my dude. Imagine the holy trinity having similar bo to gotg2 with higher budget, kek.

>>213553900 (OP)
a cope thread

>>213560800
>the holy trinity
Are you ok, ESL? There's nothing holy about them.

>>213560536
>constantly berate the nds fans and think the switch is hot shit
>brag about how switch is going to save nintendo
>sells less than the nds even though it released 12 years ago
Fixed your analogy,lil gunntroon

>>213560825
>no argument
I accept your concession

LMAO snydermonkeys still mad.
What a losers.

>>213560881
Weird, I was expecting the usual "Error: Duplicate file exists here". I guess they stopped posting this one.

>>213560881
Update this.

>couldn't even reach 600m
What losers indeed

>>213560568
>Right. Spider-Man, Iron Man by RDJ, Evans and ScarJo were nobodies in 2016.
>ScarJo were nobodies
you keep not mentioning her character's name...since black widow was a nobody.
Chris Evans (who im gay for) did 175mil domestic for Cap 1. adjust for mega inflation all you want, but he's barely been a big box office draw by himself.

Batman & Superman lost to Spiderman/RDJ's Ironman. Would have bet against that 10 years prior based on the character's popularity. but Marvel's films were cast perfectly and Affleck isn't nearly the draw RDJ is

>>213553928
NOOOOOO DON’T USE MATH!!!
THIS DOESN’T FIT MY ANTI-CAPE NARRATIVE!!!!!! *scrambles through sóyjak folder to find the perfect one* MOM, WHERE’S THE FUCKING MEATLOAF *accidentally shits diarrhea in his sonic underwear* MOM THE MEATLOAF *slides finger over the shit and rubs it on his anime bodypillow*

>>213553928
Post Covid it’s massive. No capeshit is making a billion on its own. Only team ups make a billion. Deadpool-Wolverine, Spider Man and Tugbaot. Next Spider Man got The Punisher and The Hulk. Gunn plan js to give each character a movie and team them up.

>>213561007
>No capeshit is making a billion on its own. Only team ups make a billion.
This was essentially a Justice League movie. Or Superman vs Green Lantern vs Supergirl.

>>213561007
>Post Covid it’s massive
Couldn't even beat JW

> Only team ups make a billion.
This is cope. Btw WalMartMan is a team up movie too.

>>213561007
Supergirl
Green Lantern
Hawkgirl (from the beloved DCAU)
Mister Terrific
Metamorpho
Engineer

MOS made 619 in it's 5th weekend. Superflop is only at 578. Gunnbros...

>>213561029
Where's batman or ww? Who the fuck actually know about guy gardener?

>>213561107
Batman and Wonder Woman are not that often in the Justice League, even then you've Green Lantern and Hawkgirl.

>>213560977
>Chris Evans (who im gay for) did 175mil domestic for Cap 1. adjust for mega inflation all you want, but he's barely been a big box office draw by himself.
Captain America 2 led by Evans got $714 million. Now you' ll say that ScarJo's the Black Widow is a big box office draw. Batman v Superman lost to the Avengers movie with Spider-Man, RDJ's Iron-Man, Evans and ScarJo.
Gunn's Superman losing to Ant Man 2 with the $622 million box office is a big win for Gunn and DC.

>>213561126
>literally founding members
Point me to a single normalfag that actually knows about Guy pre S25.

>GUYS! BABY JOEY... PLEASE WATCH MY MOVIE

>>213561176
Ant Man 2 brought in more profit than MoS btw.

>>213561102
Remember when Gunnjeets said WalMartMan had "exceptional word of mouth and legs"? Kek

god i hate this box office watching bullshit that has taken over /tv/ and the entire movie fan sphere. similar to fantasy stats overtaking NFL discussions. who cares?
>"The Shawshank Redemption" had a budget of $25 million. It initially grossed only $16 million in its first theatrical run

>>213560536
>>213560851
Actually a better analogy would be a typewriter manufacturer finally outselling their rival company in 2025

>>213561261
Good for Disney. They were coasting it big time

>>213561201
No Gunn. I will not watch you taint Superman with more GoTG-like wacky scenes of CG babies.

>>213561176
>Batman v Superman lost to the Avengers movie with Spider-Man, RDJ's Iron-Man, Evans and ScarJo.
>Gunn's Superman losing to Ant Man 2 with the $622 million box office is a big win for Gunn and DC.
i think they were both disappointments...but you sound like a Snyder fan trying to make excuses for by BvS loss. it had the two biggest comic characters ever vs RDJ/spiderman...that's sad.

>>213561261
>Ant Man 2 brought in more profit than MoS btw.
well did you see Paul Rudd on Hot Ones? shit was bound to happen

2016 will forever be known that the year Marvel absolutely humiliated DC and killed DCEU before it can walk, kek.

>>213561285
The culture has become more and more politically divided, and Hollywood took "the other side"
Now it's fun to try to figure out, in numbers, how badly they fucked themselves since "their side" (and China) doesn't show up for them either anymore
What I dont get are the 1-2 people in the thread simping for Snyder like he's their personal bff
I assume it's just insincere shitposting for attention seeking faggotry though

>>213561434
>2016 will forever be known that the year Marvel absolutely humiliated DC and killed DCEU before it can walk, kek.
Marvel killed DCEU so hard in 2016 that Wonder Woman got $824 million next year and Aquaman got a billie in 2018.

>>213560744
Gunnjeets our response?

>>213561525
One is a girl boss movie and the other literally copied marvelslop just to make money in China, kek.

>>213561525
>the most successful DCEU movie has no trace of Snyder beside maybe casting
Really make you think.

>>213561546
WB considers it a success under today’s landscape, it beat a Marvel movie that came out two weeks later wthat everyone including you jeets expected to destroy it. WB just fast tracked Gunn to start working on the next one. That none of your jeet coping means shit

>>213561748
Of today's landscape where shit movies make shitbox office? Oh the travesty.

>>213561468
>Now it's fun to try to figure out, in numbers, how badly they fucked themselves since "their side" (and China) doesn't show up for them either anymore
there is no sides..just large corporations encouraging you to vote with your dollar, which goes to them either way

>>213561843
No? Dinosaurs still make billions. It's just capeshit that died.

>>213561892
>It's just capeshit that died.
No wonder, considering how shit WalMartMan is.

>>213561922
Isn't Walmart Man Cavill? Or Sear Man, or IHOP Man etc etc

>>213561748
It's still Superman, again. Spin it however you want, but DCEU turned Harley Quinn Wonder Woman and fucking Aquaman into blockbuster IPs and that accomplishment will forever be a milestone in DC history

>>213562015
>Isn't Walmart Man Cavill? Or Sear Man, or IHOP Man etc etc
>All you read and wear or see and hear on TV is a product waiting for your fatass dirty dollar

So, shut up and buy, buy, buy my new record
Buy, buy, buy,
Send more money
Fuck you, buddy.

>>213562015
WalMartMan is the Gunnpedo version. That's where he bought the suit.

>>213561892
Rebirth didn’t make a billion while the previous two did and they spent 20 million on Scarlet Johansson to boost domestic sales which just got beat by Superman. Everyone just going to ignore only reason all cspeshit is under performing overseas is be because China and asian counties are boycotting them now

>>213561887
Wrong, there's the corporations side, and there's the people's side. I'm fully aware that neither Marvel nor DC are on the side of normal people

>>213562121
>China and asian counties are boycotting them now
capeslop is down domestically too...maybe they're tired of it?

>>213562121
They're not boycotting shit you delusional Gunnjeet. They just don't bother watching the recycled MCU slop.

>>213562095
Man, Todd looks rough these days.

>>213562180
>Wrong, there's the corporations side, and there's the people's side.
people's side is an illusion to get you to spend more. 'im going to see superman three times to show those marvel fags" equals more money into the same corpo pockets. half the people that post here are ai/bots/paid to promote shit for you to buy.

not always bad, watched Kid Detective & Memories of Murder based on plant posts trying to promote their respective streaming platforms last night. pirated them, cause fuck the man, but still enjoyed

>>213554357
>inflation went up 30% in a bit over a decade
how is this sustainable?

>>213562256
The last Spider-Man got almost two billies without a Chinese release.

OH NO NO NO HAAAAAH

>>213562256
Fucking retard. Already been confirmed with the trade war China is limiting American movies and theater availability. F4 was shut out opening weekend because they flooded the theaters with 4 chink movies and didn’t even get a full showing

>>213562438
>The last Spider-Man
Spidermen

>>213562438
No shit, it’s Spider Man, the biggest selling capeshit character. Superman not even remotely on SM level box office wise not even Batman is

>>213562121
Rebirth had no IMAX screens to inflate the box office, it wiped the floor with capeslop with one arm tied behind its back

>>213562362
>>inflation went up 30% in a bit over a decade
>how is this sustainable?
trust the plan

>>213562548
Spider-Man earns more money than Batman and Superman combined.

>>213562564
It also came out during 4th of July weekend and still got beat by Superman. The US is done with dinoslop

>>213554010
lol, no they don't
they get the same deal as strippers

>>213562362
>30% in a decade
M2 went up 25% just in 2020. If you believe government inflation numbers you're beyond saving.

>>213562490
Where is the boycott Gunnjeet?

>>213562791
>$95m 1st FSS vs $102.5m 1st FSS
gunntroons are so thin skinned

>>213562616
He could've stopped it but instead poured gallons of gasoline on it. For Israel. I am NEVER voting again. ;_;

So this board is just endless spam of identical threads forever now?

>>213562489
STOP THE COUNT!

>>213553928
I think it's more, can't remember who but they we're caught lying In their reports...capeshit ppl always lie

>>213553900 (OP)
Without googling, what was the movie even about? See, you already forgot, just like everyone else.

>>213560440
I enjoyed. Not perfect, but I liked it as a start. I would hope the Superman suit gets tweaked here and there

>>213553928
>>213562923
>>213554340
>>213560998
We've been over this ten thousand times, but you faggots keep forgetting.
1. No one truly knows the exact details of studio cuts, but the Sony leak more or less confirmed that our estimates are accurate.
2. The studio/theater cuts are not one solid number; it changes based on how long the movie has been in the theater (studio gets a higher cut early on, then less as the weeks go by).
3. Roughly speaking, studios get between 50 and 60% of the domestic box office, 42% of the international box office and 25% of the Chinese box office.
>BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE THAT WOULD MEAN THAT 90% OF MOVIES ARE FLOPS IF YOU CRUNCH THE NUMBERS
Yes, but studios take into account home video sales/VOD/streaming. We, on the Internet, believe they're separate things, but the Sony leaks showed that studios don't. They look at a movie's profitability start to finish. So even if a film doesn't make all its money back at the box office, it can still be saved by video sales.

>>213560440
It's a Superman movie where everyone is already used to superpowers for 300 years. There is no magic about flying men anymore.

>>213564008
> Yes, but studios take into account home video sales/VOD/streaming. We, on the Internet, believe they're separate

This. Streaming is the new model. Studios don’t have to share the profits on VOD and is why they now put movies out on streaming 45 days after release because that is around the time theaters take 50% of ticket sales. This is why WB and Disney went to war against Netflix and got their asses handed to them and lost a ton of money. They know the theater model is a dying business.

>>213563791
Lex Luthor wants to destroy Superman because he's bald, ergo inferior and jealous. So he has a fakeout plan where he offers weapons to Israel to invade Palestine to get Superman to intervene. Superman beats the fuck out of the jews. Government says Superman can't do that, so they want to arrest him. Meanwhile Lex is playing around with pocket universes, Jimmy Olson is a sex god so he gets the inside scoop from Lex's ex. Shenanigans ensue, Supes saves the world and fights his clone, Green Lantern, Latina Hawk and Pepsiman kill Israel.
I'm a punk rocker yes I am starts playing while Superman realizes he's human because he loves his real parents and his childhood on Earth instead of being tied to Bradley Cooper and the harem thing.
The end. Also drunk Supergirl and cute dog.

Look at all this cope. A successful movie doesn't need vague and mysterious explanations to explain how it TOTALLY made a profit, bro.

It flopped, big time, and WB will be scrambling now.

>>213553900 (OP)
>Superman
>first-in-a-franchise
Oh fuck off, he's asking the best known heroes of all time, among Mario. They were banking on a huge success simply because it's Superman.

>>213563791
Lois Lane doesnt get naked and then some other boobs jiggle and then some other stuff happens I guess
Brown females dont matter

>>213564354
I'm 34. I went to watch the movie with a few younger friends, from 19 to 28. None of them knew the backstory of Superman. 0 out of the 4 I went with. I don't think kids care about Superman anymore. My mom and dad made fun of me for watching capeshit (granted, as they should) so even the oldies don't care about Superman.

>>213564354
Same argument applies to Batman but Begins made like 620 mil in today's money cause the brand was sullied by Batman and Robin and Snyder made a Superman that I think has iconic elements but didn't connect with people as a character they liked or cared about

>>213562490
>it flopped because of muh tarriffs
Now this is some juicy fucking cope. Imagine being this much of a Gunn dick sucker.

>>213553900 (OP)
isn't the premise that it doesn't need to make its budget back because it will lay the groundwork for subsequent movies in the franchise, as well as merchandise and other money making vehicles?

>>213564340
Only cope is from you faggots. WB just fast tracked a follow up movie without even waiting to see how Supergirl does. If it was bombing there would be no announcement for a follow up until after Supergirl. None of your shilling it bombed matters. It’s getting a follow up

>>213564438
>Snyder made a Superman that I think has iconic elements but didn't connect with people as a character they liked or cared about

Then why did Gunnman make 40+ million less

>>213564502
I liked it as a start but their is some caution in that I do want to see the new Superman grow as a character and visually reflect that too, so the suit can be improved, tiny stuff as well like Corenswet having a thicker neck (I know that sounds so fucking nitpicky but it does help with a man's presence), etc. Sure he's three years in but Superman in not operating at his peak if the JL is not in existence and he hasn't be tested seriously by players like Brainiac.

>>213564525
My post addressed this already

>>213560881
Faggot who made these pics stopped updating them. I wonder why.

>>213564502
Disney did the same thing with their flops, thinking that they could brute force it. Hows your Stars Wars going, bro? Two more weeks and they Rey film will save it all! lol

You are coping hard. I hope you aren't a WB shareholder.

>>213554397
You're right, but don't bother with these retards. A few days ago I tried to explain them that studios don't give a fuck about the box office. It's all about the word of mouth and the second week drop. If those two are good, then the movie is considered a success and they will keep making sequels, even if it loses hundreds of millions of dollars. They play the long game. Superman was a success because it had great word of mouth and a very good second week. But since MoS technically made more money, the Snydercultist will keep screeching that it was more successful, despite having worse word of mouth and a terrible second week drop. They live in an alternate dimension where things work upside down.

>>213564525
Why did Synder make 100 million less with a Superman movie then a movie with a talk by raccoon and tree that came out a year later?

>>213564560
>tested seriously by players like Brainiac
I can kind of imagine Gunn making Brainiac an AI and he's all so above it when it comes to thinking he's above organic life until his shit actually gets pushed in and AI in artificial bodies is reduced to actually being a seething frothing mess every bit as hysterical as an organic. You can almost take inspiration from Cavil from Battlestar Galactic in what Brainiac imagines his pursuit of knowledge will allow him to evolve into something that can feel and experience things no being before has

>>213564647
>then
Hello, SAAR. Please don't redeem Gunn's Superman, Saar!

>>213564612
What recent SW movies come out? Right, none. Supergirl coming out next year along with Clayface and they just green lit a Wonder Woman movie. Just admit it’s over Snyndersexual

>>213564693
>make a typo because you speak 3 languages
>get called a filthy pajeet by a guy who can barely speak 1
You're a nigger.

First stage: Superman trailer breaks records on views. Superman fans say it would do a billion or 800 millions at minimum. Completely outgrowing MOS in every metric.

Second stage: Superman OW comes. 125 domestic and 95 m international. The billion dream dies, even 800 seems distant. 700 is a realistic chance with the good legs, so they start making all types of memes mocking MOS fans for mentioning inflation.

Third stage: Now they're focused exclusively on MOS domestic raw numbers because it's the only metric where Superman 25 had beat MOS

>>213564628
Now type all that again without crying

>>213564525
>Then why did Gunnman make 40+ million less
Gunn will 70 million less.

>>213564720
Okay, here we go.
You're right, but don't bother with these retards. A few days ago I tried to explain them that studios don't give a fuck about the box office. It's all about the word of mouth and the second week drop. If those two are good, then the movie is considered a success and they will keep making sequels, even if it loses hundreds of millions of dollars. They play the long game. Superman was a success because it had great word of mouth and a very good second week. But since MoS technically made more money, the Snydercultist will keep screeching that it was more successful, despite having worse word of mouth and a terrible second week drop. They live in an alternate dimension where things work upside down. Without crying.

>>213564693
What shithole are you from faggot? You’re obviously not American, where Superman is kicking ass. Only non American faggots give a shit about what other countries think

>>213564710
>WB announced new projects so it's a success, why would they announce new projects for a flop?
You're too dumb to follow your own arguments through. Now ask the same of Disney/Marvel.

Stop the cope, accept that Gunn flopped.

>>213556985
Wtf is this movie even about
I thought it was israel vs palestina movie

>>213564750
Superman is far more divisive and poorly received than MoS excluding critics

>>213564720
You’re making shit up. Nobody expect this movie to make a billion outside retard trolls. No Superman movie has ever made a billion and a reboot sure as fuck won’t.

>>213564792
I have no idea what you're talking about, I just copy pasted what that guy said and added "without crying" at the end.

We really were lucky Snyder didn't direct another Superman movie because he didn't understand the character.
MoS made money just because it was heavy marketed like a MCU movie and because people were curious, but looking at its box office performance you can clearly see it was disliked soon

>>213564759
>"a-a-actually it's flopping outside America...." quivered the nebbish malnourished europoid
>"HEH, I THOUGHT WE SHUT DOWN AUSCHWITZ IN WW2 LIKE 30 YEARS AGO. LOOKING AT YOU YOU'D I'D THINK IT'S YOUR HOME TOWN! HAHAAH" thunders Chaddering Chadderton Chadson III
>"b-b-b-b-b-BUT y-you see--"
>PUNCH
>the emaciated europoid goes down in an instant
>"HEH. I DON'T SUBSCRIBE TO YOUR WOKE NONSENSE, EGGHEAD.... CAUSE I'M AN AMERICAN!!!" thunders the Patriotic Chad, his testosterone levels so high it penetrates the atmosphere and ruins the hopes of trannies everywhere of ever successfully passing
>the American spectators take a stand and begin applauding the scene

>>213564824
>MOS 75% audience score on 250k reviews
>Superman something like 90% on 25k reviews
>critica/audience scores always drop as more and more coming
>Superman will be like 55-60% audience score if it also had 250k reviews
Stay mad, gunnbot

>>213564781
Are you idiot? There was no announcement for a sequel after Superman Returns under performed. Zero. When MOS fell off a cliff there was no announcement at all for MOS 2 until we heard that Batman was going to be in the next one. If this like bombed, Supergirl would be getting the Zaslov Batwoman treatment and pulled for a tax write off. There would a massive overhaul like like pressure to put Batman into the next one or Wonder Woman or try to get some big name actors

>>213564438
Batman Begins got very solid reviews at a time when poptimism hasn't taken over and most critics weren't funko pop collectors though. Out of Batman Begins, MoS, The Batman, and Superman; Batman Begins was clearly the one with the most potential for a great sequel.

Superman sucks. Fantastic Four sucks. Stop making movies about them.

>>213564845
I was on the MoS hype train back in 2012/13 and Nolan's name seemed to have carried a lot of weight. It's ironic that Snyder has such an intense dedicated fanbase when back in 2012/13, the fucking director of MoS was treated like an irrelevancy in the comments. It was PRAISE NOLAN this, ALL HAIL NOLAN that

>>213564715
Why don't you tell us which three languages you speak, SAAR? Are two of them, by any chance, regional Indian languages? And I speak two languages fluidly, for your knowledge.

>>213553900 (OP)
Man of Steel made ~$160 million in product placement before the film even launched. Superman wasn't quite as bad (they don't fight outside a Sears) but they probably made a big chunk of money from product placement and synergistic advertising.

I wonder how camrips factor into BO numbers. I saw Superman via a decent camrip, and I tried to watch FF the same way but gave up because I got so bored. I also did the same with The Batman. Was there even a decent camrip industry back in 2010-2015?

>>213564904
>Are you idiot?
It's clear you are. YOU are the one that used the fact that the studio is announcing new projects as proof that it's a "success" despite this song and dance being done for numerous franchises that have flopped.

Let me make this really simple for you so you can understand: your newly announced projects mean absolutely nothing to the success of the movie.

>>213553900 (OP)
>I have never seen the sentiment “it doesn’t need to make money!” for any of them
It's a good thing that's not what he said then

>>213554006
Worldwide it's almost hit $580 million.

>>213564974
I wonder how close Indian regional accents are. I've met a rodent faced bitch before who's like 'i speak english, telugu, tamil, bengali hindi'. Wouldn't you be a fucking language prodigy if you could speak 5 wildly different languages with fluency by the time you're 23? Surely the Indian ones are similar

>>213556254
But that's not what break even means.

>>213564937
Snyder losers are retarded and think he had any real creative control over MOS, he didn’t. Nolan and Goyer wrote the script and Snyder was Nolan’s monkey. Why I don’t even blame Snyder for MOS. It was all Nolan and Goyer who had no business having anything to do with Superman, a character they obviously did not respect or have any idea about. Snyder obviously just wanted to direct a Batman movie

>>213565089
*regional languages

>>213564904
>this like bombed, Supergirl would be getting the Zaslov Batwoman treatment and pulled for a tax write off.
They can't do that anymore. Those were some benefits they got granted for a short time after the acquisition, since it's expected that new owners will want to cut some of the fat the previous administration left, but that period of grace is long over.

>>213565073
It's gonna hit like 640 in the very high end (It could go as low as 612) which is only a 78 million dollar profit

>>213565012
What franchise that flat out bombed like you claimed got an immediate sequel announced without a massive overhaul including a new director and entirely new direction? Did Superman Returns? Did MOS?

>>213564591
ever since this pic was dropped too LOL
>>213554357

>>213565117
Waters are a bit muddy here. Nolan and Goyer did the story, as in the outline. The actual screenplay Goyer did which could have contained all the stuff people got iffy over like Jonathan's characterisation and death. We know Nolan insisted Zod get sucked into the Phantom Zone but Snyder as the director overrode that and had it changed to the neck snap as well as setting the visual style and such. I put the blame on Goyer and Snyder rather than Nolan even though the man is extremely overrated and I think he's autistic in a detrimental fashion

>>213565189
Star Wars. Thanks for playing.

>>213565177
Fuck it doesn’t. Zaslov did the something with Coyote vs Acme which finally is getting a release after people complained

>>213554397
There's literally going to be a flood of krypton merch and redditpops

>>213553900 (OP)
This was the film that was supposed to kick-start the new DC era, a new rebooted universe, and it couldn't manage a billion, yet children's films could hit that mark easily. Blaming Trump couldn't save it. Using countless references and throwing in too many characters couldn't save it. TikTok and India couldn't even save it. Future films are going to do worse since he's making the same mistake as MCU and Star Wars by forcing viewers to watch TV shows just to understand what's going on.

>>213564438
Batman Begins grossed 2x as much as Batman & Robin 8 years before, while Gunnman will make $50m less than MOS from 12 years ago. Unadjusted for ticket sales.

>>213565213
Which one? I don’t recall Solo getting a sequel after it bombed. There hasn’t been a SW movie since

>>213565309
>being this obtuse
Just admit you lost bro. Stop the cope. They announced a bunch of Star Wars spinoffs and sequels despite the numerous flops. Studios announce these things for free press and the illusion of success. You fell for it hook line and sinker. You're a mark.

/tv/ won as usual and troons lost. BYE bitches.

>>213559537
Sure, in that world, the remaining snydertards would have gone full bunker mode and tried to spin it as a failure but nobody would have cared, because the quality criticism never really achieves anything, since general audiences have poor taste.
but I wouldn't call it a win for snydertards in our case either, because cavil and snyder are not coming back, that's their winning condition; gunn failing is more like a 'yeah I lost, but so did you' conclusion.

>>213559537
>has to invent an alternate reality where Superman was a success to make a point about how Gunn totally won (in an alternate reality lol)
New cope just dropped.

>>213565185
Would be a decent profit if it were a one off, but it's not great in relation to its budget, and the big tent pole movies like these are expected to make up for the loses of all the flops, and this certainly isn't making up for The Flash and Joker 2. It's to be seen if it will be successful in kick-starting a shared universe though. If it does, WB will be more than happy. Numbers wise is quite comparable to Batman Begins or Iron-Man, but there's one big difference to keep in mind. The main audience of those skewed young. Superman instead was carried by millennials. The audience for superhero movies is still the same people that went to watch the first Avengers in their teens/early 20s, the ones who didn't grow out of it. These movies have made a terrible job cultivating new audiences. You want to attract young people, because while an older audience can give you a hit (look at Maverick), people progressively go less and less to the cinema as they age and you can't build a franchise on outliers. Supergirl will be their test of fire. If Supergirl does well with zoomers, even if it does worse overall than Superman, then they have a franchise. If not, they will keep getting diminished returns.

>>213565374
Not a single Solo sequel was announced loser and that is the only Star Wars movie that ever bombed. The movie bombing is the very reason why Disney has been cautious with putting out another SW movie and shit has been relegated to Disney+

>>213565537
>the only Star Wars movie that ever bombed
ok so you are genuinely retarded and deluded. i don't need to say anything more.

>>213565211
Killing Zod has fine. The problem was the execution. I don't mind Zod being a psychopath without much depth, but he was also completely lacking in intelligence and strategizing. The guy was like a rabid dog. He should have put people in danger as a way of gaining the upper hand against Superman, until Superman had no other choice but to kill him. Instead he was just "IM GOING TO KEEP KILLING EVEN WHEN IVE BEEN DEFEATED BECAUSE IM EVIL!!!"

>>213561007
I know you are still here.

>>213565537
It didn't get a sequel because it has a bad word of mouth and a bad second week drop. Studios don't give a fuck about movies "bombing". That's not the game they are playing. Learn a bit about Hollywood, retard. By the metrics that matter, Superman was a success and MoS was a failure.

>>213565661
>Studios don't give a fuck about movies "bombing".
Retard.

>>213565588
Force Awakens- 2 billion
Rise of Skywalker-1 billion
Last Jedi—1.3 billion
Rogue One-1 billion
Solo-329 million and no movies since

>>213565661
No shit, I’ve been saying this forever but retard jeets don’t get it because they’re stupid

>>213565202
Not that Superman, MoS won.

>Skiiwalker Tha Jedi, the self-credited pioneer of a controversial Snyder movement online, made a video about his “successful” infiltration on his YouTube channel.