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Anonymous No.213559637 >>213559722 >>213559809 >>213559816 >>213559879 >>213559929 >>213559974 >>213560007 >>213560173 >>213560331 >>213560439 >>213560571 >>213562558 >>213562725 >>213562754 >>213562806 >>213562927 >>213563110 >>213563219 >>213563782 >>213563976 >>213564567 >>213564629 >>213564987
how would (you) fix the show? (the original 8 seasons, I haven't seen the others yet)
Anonymous No.213559722
>>213559637 (OP)
Kill Deb off sooner
Anonymous No.213559784 >>213560127
I'm at the start of season 4 and I'm getting tired of Dexter getting cornered again for screwing up a kill. If the guy stopped killing for 5 FUCKING MINUTES maybe he wouldn't get in so much trouble. Seems like psychopathy comes with low IQ.
Anonymous No.213559809
>>213559637 (OP)
Dexterkino is kino. Why would I want to change anything?
Anonymous No.213559816
>>213559637 (OP)
keep him an autismo
Anonymous No.213559879 >>213559910 >>213559984 >>213560315 >>213560737 >>213562788 >>213563041
>>213559637 (OP)
Find a way to keep Doakes alive for longer.

I liked Lundy so have him show up more.

He doesn't really need a baby that soon.

Explore the actual moral issues. Dexter is not a good person. He kills murderers because he likes it and gets pleasure out of it. They were unwilling to show how evil Dexter was.
Anonymous No.213559910
>>213559879
Th showed plenty of Dexter being evil. It's up to the viewer to support or condemn him.
Anonymous No.213559929
>>213559637 (OP)
don't hire female writers lol, fucking horrible what they did after season 4
season 5 was alright but you can still see how there are new bad writers
Anonymous No.213559949
Doakes comes back as a robot.
Anonymous No.213559966
Stretch Dexter vs Doakes for one more season. Do an actual Dexter vs Lundy. Do a Dexter vs Liddy and give him more than five scenes and a code-breaking kill.
One scene per episode of the cops telling the spanish speaking Miami citizens to learn fucking english.
Anonymous No.213559974
>>213559637 (OP)
Hire someone else.
Let that faggot suck black dick.
I am still disgusted by Six Feet Under.
Anonymous No.213559984 >>213560184
>>213559879
Dexter isn't evil
Anonymous No.213560007 >>213560230 >>213562682 >>213562723
>>213559637 (OP)
1,2 and 4 were good for showtime tv series.
3 was a mess due to the writers strike
the rest were just "fuck it we are making money no matter what"

its basically like supernatural after season 5 hired a bunch of shitty writers and it just went down hill
Anonymous No.213560127 >>213560171
>>213559784
Wait until season 6.
Anonymous No.213560171
>>213560127
the cat ignoring its dead owners next to the food in a pool of blood and calmly eating was one of the best acting I've ever seen
Anonymous No.213560173
>>213559637 (OP)
>trinity kills debra
>somewhere down the line he has another kid and his lie gets harder and harder to maintain
>season 6 has a completely different villain and drops the religious shit with the brother sam
>he has an affair with hannah, rita finds out and they seperate
>dexter eventually breaks off with hannah and tries to fix things with rita and realises he likes the fake life he has built
>Laguerta finds out dexter is the bay harbour butcher, and convinces batista
>they tell rita to try to get her to turn him in
>Dexter is confronted by rita and astor and cody
>Last episodes are dexter running away from a manhunt
>He is eventually Killed/Arrested
Anonymous No.213560184 >>213560216
>>213559984
He's a serial killer who enjoys the hunt, the kill, who keeps trophies and butchers his victims.
Anonymous No.213560216 >>213560423
>>213560184
And they're all done to people that make society a shit place to live in. Now if he does that to normal people then he'd be evil like Brian but he isn't
Anonymous No.213560230 >>213560423 >>213562682
>>213560007
>Doesnt like miguel
>WELL THEN FUCK YOU!
Anonymous No.213560264 >>213560311
Not have him kill so many people, on or off screen
Make his murders more ritualized, with greater meaning
But seriously, his kill count literally makes him the most prolific serial killer in modern history
Anonymous No.213560311
>>213560264
some brazilian gang leader probably has him beat
Anonymous No.213560315
>>213559879
His motives are evil but his actions aren't (except cheating on his wife with an anglo)
Anonymous No.213560331 >>213560382
>>213559637 (OP)
Follow the books; embrace the crazy. Uncle Biney, Molok, Cyber-Doakes, the whole thing.
Anonymous No.213560382 >>213560408
>>213560331
Oh, and most importantly--embrace the sadism. Garrote leash, torture, no clean stab to the heart bullshit.
Anonymous No.213560408 >>213560473 >>213560601
>>213560382
he tortures people in the books?
Anonymous No.213560423
>>213560216
But that's just because Harry hit him over the head over and over with the Code and the rules and all of that. It just directs his hunger, it does not drive it.
Take away Harry's code and he's still gonna be chopping up people, only this time it'd be innocent people.


>>213560230
On subsequent viewings he really does become one of my favorite characters.
Anonymous No.213560439 >>213560623
>>213559637 (OP)
1 > 2 > 6 > 4 > 8 > 7 > 3 > 5
Directors thought that the show would get boring if he weren't getting nearly found out every season so they went with "oh shit he's about to be found out again" non stop ever since season 2 ended, it was mundane, predictable and boring. There was nothing clever and new like with the first season which unironically kept me on edge, second season was still alright but anything afterwards was pure milking the show. Season 1 and 2 is pure kino, I loved it all, sometimes you would even sympathize with Doakes because that's how well he was written.
Season 3 makes you begin to point out the stupid mistakes that Dexter makes which for example is to wear a fucking balaclava next time because that's how the entire Prado arc happened. Season 4 was just fucking ridiculous in terms of how he was just fucking with Mitchell and could have killed him several times, it really could have been redeemed with the series ending at that season and Dexter being found out about his tendencies.

I enjoyed season 8 somehow
Anonymous No.213560466
no female writers
dex doesn't need a love interest past rita, and their self inserts "i can fix/save/help him" bullcrap was worse than the police character side plots
Anonymous No.213560473 >>213560513 >>213560601
>>213560408
He delights in it, that's the point. The kill is secondary and marks the end of his playtime. The torture is the primary goal, because that's what the demon (dark passenger) wants.
Anonymous No.213560513
>>213560473
so does he torture people in the books? yes or no
Anonymous No.213560571 >>213560639
>>213559637 (OP)
First season: Ice Truck Killer kills Deb. Dexter kills Ice Truck Killer.

Second season: Trinity Killer kills Rita but never gets caught. Dexter kills Trinity.

Third season: Lundy shows up to investigate Trinity. Rita's death starts the Doakes vs. Dexter feud.

Fourth season: Bay Harbor Butcher evidence found, including Trinity remains (discovered through DNA evidence). Investigation into BHB goes full steam. Dexter kills Doakes.
Anonymous No.213560601 >>213560713
>>213560408
>>213560473
Most of the time he "doesnt" kill them per say. Its just that after he removes enough parts they tend to die on thier own time. You know, like his mom. The reason why he is the way he is. Books did that part better. But I guess the average viewer couldnt handle that.
Anonymous No.213560623
>>213560439
not to mention unexplained plotholes
>Lieutenant LaGuerta, whatever happened there
Anonymous No.213560639 >>213560703
>>213560571
>Trinity Killer kills Rita but never gets caught. Dexter kills Trinity.
?
Anonymous No.213560657 >>213561308
End season 2 with Doakes escaping the cabin before it blows but suffers headtrauma and ends up in a coma, possibly braindead. Dexter wrestles with whether or not to make sure he never wakes up but ultimately decides not to. Lila, likewise, escapes to Europe but is not tracked down by Dexter.

Season 3 is based on a version of the barrel girls plot - what does Dexter do when he accidently rescues a killer's victim and she sees him in action? Similar to the Miguel arc, Dexter feels conflicted because he cannot kill the person who knows his secret, but unlike Miguel, Lumen has every incentive to turn him in. Rather than Lumen wanting to murder her captors, instead Dexter convinces her that killing them would help her heal so that he can keep her close to him while he figures out a way to ensure she never gives him up. While he does grow attached to Lumen as in canon, the relationship is more manipulative on his part. The final boss will be Lila, who has returned from Europe to take one last swipe at Dexter's happy life with Rita. Lumen, having gained no closure after killing her former captors, is at her breaking point and wants to die and hates Dexter for what he has made her into. Lumen kills Lila and baits Dexter to kill her. Dexter has Lumen on his table but feels conflicted that this is a monster of his own creation and that to save himself he destroyed an innocent, in a sense violating the code. Dexter once more saves Lumen, but this time from himself. He decides to neither kill her nor keep a watchful eye on her, but to accept whatever she may choose. Lumen decides to start over, not turning Dexter in.

The Rita pregnancy arc still plays out in season 3. Deb, meanwhile, spirals. Dexter, deciding he simply has too many plates spinning, and rationalizing that Deb is better off without him, starts to shut her out. She hunts down a serial killer and manages to get him before Dexter can, almost catching him abducting him.
Anonymous No.213560703
>>213560639
Never gets caught by the Feds.
Anonymous No.213560713 >>213561275
>>213560601
really? I saw someone say the way he kills is the same in the books with him stabbing to the heart
Anonymous No.213560737 >>213561215 >>213562877 >>213564968
>>213559879
>Find a way to keep Doakes alive for longer.
Doakes gets transferred to another dept, the FBI or some special op thing. He leaves but not without telling Dexter he'll still be watching. Without Doakes, Dexter finds a way to bring the Bay Harbor Butcher hunt to a dead end and gets away. In the coming seasons, Doakes pops in and out until a big confrontation in a later season when Doakes has proof that Dexter is the Butcher.
Anonymous No.213561215
>>213560737
Putting Doakes in a bus would be the only way to keep him alive, sure. He could come back after Sirko's boyfriend kills the detective, then Dexter tries to play it so that Doakes and Sirko end up facing each other, removing at least one of his major problems
Anonymous No.213561275
>>213560713
Really. He's a monster in the books. Literally possessed by the spawn of Molok and bloodthirsty as hell.
Anonymous No.213561308 >>213562768
>>213560657
Season 4 plays out more or less as in canon, except that it is only after Deb is shot and Lundy dies that Dexter resumes being her closest and only support system. She realizes how much she missed him and depended on him and the seeds of the incest arc are planted earlier.

Rita still dies, Dexter still melts down and considers running away. Except after choosing to stay, Doakes wakes up. Initially confused, he immediately claims that Dexter is the Bay Harbour Butcher. At this point Dexter has already produced more evidence to better implicate Doakes, such as the evidence he uses in canon in season 7, so few people take him seriously. But eyes are on Dexter. Quinn and Deb are at each other's throats because of the accusations, with Deb unwilling to accept even the thought that Dexter could be a killer. Laguerta likewise is torn. After Rita's death she is very sympathetic to Dexter, and Doakes has no convincing evidence. She tries to bait Dexter throughout the season, but her own stupidity has Dexter running circles around her. Quinn, meanwhile, is running a more serious covert investigation, and Dexter finds himself in the same position he was in with Doakes - a cop prisoner. Except, Quinn isn't like Doakes. He isn't a killer, but he isn't a good man either. He barely has a code. Dexter kills him. The investigation into Quinn's death leads Laguerta to Dexter. She would have him except - Deb. She provides Dexter with an unbeatable alibi, and then she provides a fall guy. Laguerta finally accepts that Doakes must be guilty.

Season 6, Dexter knows that Deb knows. Deb tries to keep things normal, but eventually confronts him. She learns the whole story. Like in canon, she tries to keep Dexter on a leash, but Dexter resists. A new serial killer terrorizes Miami and Deb tries to use Dexter like a police dog but can't keep a grip on him. Dexter is too wild. Deb finally sees Dexter brutally murder and butcher the man they were hunting. She kills him.
Anonymous No.213562558
>>213559637 (OP)
Keep Rita alive longer, have her wear skimpier sundresses, and give Deb's plot points to her. Dexter kills TK as he is about to kill Rita. Rita thinks that Dexter might be a serial killer when she sees how he kills TK. After the Disney vacation she decides to stay at her parents' place under the excuse that she still feels unsafe. Rita is conflicted on keeping quiet about her suspicions and that he might even kill her. She thinks back on Dexter's "druggie" behavior and realizes she's never seen needle marks or other signs of drug use.

Deb keeps pestering Rita on when she'll be back. Rita lies to Deb saying Dex is using drugs again after the traumatic event and doesn't want to come back until Dexter is clean. Deb believes her when she finds Lumen, she assumes he's cheating again.

Rita comes back to confront Dexter and finds Lumen. Lumen isn't sure the Rita knows that Dexter is a killer. Rita and Lumen talk and bond over the fact they were both abused by men. Lumen lets slip that Dexter is helping her with the men that abused. Rita remembers the suspicious nature around her ex-husband getting put back in prison and that Dexter could have killed him, but didn't.

Rita finds the 13th disc with lumen on it. She secretly catches Dex and Lumen killing Jordan chase. Rita finally starts to warm up to his killer side and decides to come back home with the kids.

Dexter gets animalistic lust for Hannah like he did before. He keeps cheating on Rita with her. He's conflicted with being with the woman who fell in love with his "human" side and the woman who fell in love with his "dark passenger" side.

S8. Rita helps Dex get away with murder and that puts a target on her back. She gets killed in front of Harrison at the same age Dex saw his mom get killed. The cycle continues, but this time Astor and Cody are old enough to recognize Harrison is a little too much like their dad. Dex runs away with Hannah because and hopes Harrison doesn't grow up to be like him.
Anonymous No.213562682 >>213562723
>>213560230
>>213560007
Miguel himself is fantastic but his season is weak.
Anonymous No.213562723
>>213562682
>>213560007
>Fweebo
Anonymous No.213562725 >>213562840 >>213563041
>>213559637 (OP)
Finally got through s4, on s5 and lumen is annoying the fuck out of me. Is it all downhill from here? I remember seeing bits of s6 and it seemed okay but this is way more frustrating than new blood or resurection
Anonymous No.213562732
Haven't finished the original show but I was thinking about the new one and I had a fresh idea for a killer. It's another killer that's like dexter that kills killers but he's actually more perfect than dexter and after brief friendship the new killer considers dexter to be evil and tries to kill him while still maintaining good guy status in Dexter's eyes
Anonymous No.213562752 >>213564372
Dexter fucks deb, on screen unsimilated.
Anonymous No.213562754
>>213559637 (OP)
remove the whole dr. vogel thing
Anonymous No.213562768
>>213561308
>seeds of the incest arc are planted earlier.
Make it even earlier. Have a flashback of Harry telling Dex it's not cool to jack off into your little sister's panties.
Anonymous No.213562788
>>213559879
Those first 3 are all exactly what I wanted
Anonymous No.213562806
>>213559637 (OP)
have dexter kill the english titty vampire after she kills doakes and turn himself in.

have an alternative ending on the boxset where the punished breaks him out of prison
Anonymous No.213562840
>>213562725
getting through the first half of s5 was hard for me too
second half gets easier
and s6>s5 definitely
Anonymous No.213562877
>>213560737
Fuck kills me how much better these ideas are then what we got
Anonymous No.213562926 >>213563105
quinn and batista should have chased him in season 8 from start, maybe even masuka
Anonymous No.213562927
>>213559637 (OP)
Remove the incest subplot.
Stop making Dex act like an out of character retard
Finale should have been him getting caught 2bh.
Anonymous No.213563041 >>213564627
>>213559879
>I liked Lundy so have him show up more.
Detective Turlington shows up the same year Lundy does, and they're practically the same character. They both make Dex and the Smith family nervous they are about to be caught. They are so fucking close to catching their them, but hilariously don't.

>>213562725
>and lumen is annoying the fuck out of me
She's suppose to be annoying. Won't leave when Dex wants her to. Leaves when Dex wants her to stay. Crazy bitch empties sugar packets all over the dining table.
Anonymous No.213563075 >>213563116
why did they have dexter exclusivly fall in love with and have sex with raped women
Anonymous No.213563105
>>213562926
>maybe even masuka
Would Masuka cover for Dex because he brought donuts and was one of the only ones to not be mean to him at work?
Anonymous No.213563110 >>213563180 >>213563206 >>213563382
>>213559637 (OP)
How downhill does it go? Currently watching the first season (around episode 5) for the first time, its pretty fun; i miss these kind of show; nowadays its all 6 episodes seasons with years between each of them
the wig on young Dexter is so funny
Anonymous No.213563116 >>213563194
>>213563075
i don't member lila or hana being raped
Anonymous No.213563152
Keep trinity killer in longer. have Deb curse less
Anonymous No.213563180
>>213563110
soak it all in, get yourself comfy and don't do other shit while you're watching

i wish i could watch it all again for the first time
Anonymous No.213563194
>>213563116
Hannah was underaged, so it was statutory.

Lila was pretend raped by Bautista. So she's either used to rough sex from rape or just being into rough sex.
Anonymous No.213563206
>>213563110
It never gets THAT bad. Just enjoy
Anonymous No.213563219 >>213563277
>>213559637 (OP)
Easy. Doakes doesn't die in S2, but they build on the previously established suggestion that Doakes too is into extrajudicial killing and make him instead of Migay Prado the partner of Dexter in S3.
Anonymous No.213563277
>>213563219
And Doakes can be Dexter's lover after Rita dies.
Anonymous No.213563382
>>213563110
>the wig on young Dexter is so funny
Would you have watched Original Sin if it was Michael C Hall with a wig?
Anonymous No.213563782
>>213559637 (OP)
Cast someone unbelievable hot to play Debra, so when Quinn loses her it's more believable that he falls in love with strippers. And give us tons of scenes where she's half naked in front of Dex for incestfags.

This young Deb was pretty damn cute. Too bad the actress died her hair and got a tan, she looks bogged.
Anonymous No.213563952
Season 5
>open with Dexter living overseas (Spain or somewhere)
>he left after Rita's death
>has been killing petty criminals out of boredom but none of them are scratching his itch
>Deb calls panicked and says Harrison's in trouble
>Dexter rushes home where everyone's fine and Deb berates him for abandoning them
>slowly settles back into his old life but still finds that killing isn't do it for him anymore
>season is focused on relatively low stakes - finding the murderer of a politician and maybe a conspiracy of some sort
>Dexter spends the entire season trying to regain his groove
>Dexter finally regains his groove by realising that he needs to leave clues, Riddler style for a detective to solve
>season ends with Harry berating Dexter for breaking the first rule of the code, Dexter non-chalantly replies that the code is his now

Season 6 would then be Dexter gleefully investigating his own killings, both hiding and planting evidence to lead miami metro in circles. And then it would end with them accidentally doing something competent and getting a clue he didn't intend for them to get.
Season 7 is Dexter trying hard to cover his track and ends with them discovering he's the bhb.
Season 8 is Dexter on the run.
Anonymous No.213563976
>>213559637 (OP)
Mix seasons up a little, switching events around, and having one season less since season 8 felt like filler. Have the apocalypse killer from season 6 be the killer in season one, to have an expendable character while the audience gets used to the Miami PD crew, BUT also introduce Brian as a recurring character and the ice truck killer case in the background which goes unresolved in the first season. Second season should be the Miguel Prado one and Brian should get more focus. Third season should introduce Dr. Vogel and explore Dexter's past and should be the one in which he confronts Brian and the Ice Truck killer case is resolved, that with Brian having been around for 3 seasons would hit harder. Fourth season should be the trinity killer. Fifth season the Lumen one, maybe ending with Deb catching Dexter killing Jordan Chase, which almost happened in the original show. Sixth season should be the one with the gay russian mobster and Hannah, ending with Deb killing Laguerta, maybe also have Hannah take Harrison away at the end. Seventh and final season should be the high stakes season we should have gotten and everyone expected after season seven with Laguerta's death with Doakes being on Dexter's ass and the killer gf from season 2 being introduced, ending with both her and Doakes dying and Dexter faking his death, dunno about Deb though.
Anonymous No.213564372
>>213562752
Yeah!
Anonymous No.213564567 >>213564683 >>213564758 >>213564911
Watching the latest episode, might be the dumbest kill he's ever done. Doing it right below a couple dozen people, with someone coming to check on him at any time. He didn't even get the full kill room setup.

>>213559637 (OP)
There's nothing to fix. Realistically tho if you wanted to improve the OG show in a theoretical alternate universe then you would just slow down the pace of the show a lot more. Make the dex brother reveal happen later, maybe not kill him off after the reveal, and Doakes stays on for longer. The trinity arc should've been the finale since it's the ultimate consequence for his actions while showing that Dexter does have more of a heart, but in the real show later seasons diminish that greatly with the other relationships and stuff.
Anonymous No.213564627 >>213564758
>>213563041
turlington is based on forest whitaker's character from the shield i'm pretty sure
Anonymous No.213564629
>>213559637 (OP)
Have dexter get caught and die in the first episode
Anonymous No.213564683
>>213564567
>The trinity arc should've been the finale
imo they weren't sure it wasn't
Anonymous No.213564758 >>213564911
>>213564567
>Doing it right below a couple dozen people
Probably trying to appeal to normies.

>Omg Dex is so close to getting caught. The stakes have never been higher!!!
Someone else in this thread said the writers constantly doing this shit makes the show suffer.

>>213564627
Oh yeah I forgot he was in that. IIRC whitaker's character freaks the fuck out and almost loses his job going after the MCs in the shield.

Turlington never freaks out, but he did break down crying when he thought he disappointed his father until he found out it was the hotel owner stealing the pistachios and the other time he couldn't find enough change to buy a sandwich.
Anonymous No.213564911 >>213565218
>>213564567
gemini is the #1 most wanted serial killer, why take the risk of having another good chance when you have all the tools inside your house? it'd be bad if he would've set up the entire kill room and stripped him naked but instead he just used duct tape and instantly killed him
>>213564758
>Someone else in this thread said the writers constantly doing this shit makes the show suffer.
most obvious instance of this is in season 5 in the warehouse with lumen
Anonymous No.213564968
>>213560737
Doakes being transferred makes so much sense to keep him "around" for longer. They really killed him off way too early.
Anonymous No.213564987
>>213559637 (OP)
Kill Deb and keep Doakes alive. I rarely have actual contempt for a fictional character but god everything about deb was just ass.
Anonymous No.213565218 >>213565428
>>213564911
>most obvious instance of this is in season 5 in the warehouse with lumen
>fatfuck dentist gets just enough time to warn his buddies that lumen is still alive
>Jordan Chase just strolls through Miami Metro just like the Trinity Killer did
Yep season 2 and onward the big bad always finds out Dex is a killer and this threatens his friends and family. Yawn. It would have been more fun for season 5 to watch the rapists panicking as some unknown force is terrorizing them and them suspecting each other of betrayal. IE Jordan Chase killing his head of security because he has the most resources and knowledge to fuck them all over.

Fun Fact Jordan Chase is also Sherlock Holmes in Elementary, which turned out to be a better show than you'd expect.
Anonymous No.213565428 >>213565539
>>213565218
>has episode dedicated to incels
pass
Anonymous No.213565539 >>213565577
>>213565428
It has several episodes with their version of Anonymous. He literally had to post a pic of shoe on head to get them to stop sending pizzas to his house.

Their was even an episode about namefag drama and the FBI/CIA trying to make anons lefty. One of the namefags was an obese incel pretending to be girl.
Anonymous No.213565577
>>213565539
Kino
Anonymous No.213565636 >>213565779
i'm only 1 episode in to the first season and i have no idea what you guys are talking about
Anonymous No.213565779 >>213565864
>>213565636
better have those episodes on 2x to catch on to resurrection
Anonymous No.213565864
>>213565779
>2x
Cringe!