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Anonymous No.213576892 >>213576904 >>213576961 >>213576967 >>213576986 >>213577042 >>213577129 >>213577209 >>213577340 >>213577468 >>213577482 >>213577713 >>213577829 >>213577897 >>213577936 >>213577938 >>213578087 >>213578406 >>213578421 >>213578433 >>213578723 >>213578894
No biopic of the most influential human in the history of mankind?
Anonymous No.213576904 >>213577042 >>213578599
>>213576892 (OP)
I want one with Seth Rogan as Marx and Ryan Gosling as Engels.
Anonymous No.213576940 >>213576954 >>213576960 >>213578743
Fascism proceeds this man's drivel by almost 70 years
Anonymous No.213576954 >>213576984 >>213576988 >>213577042 >>213578113 >>213578145 >>213578406 >>213578570 >>213578620
>>213576940
Fascism is the ideology of losers. Communism is still going strong.
Anonymous No.213576960 >>213576995 >>213577042
>>213576940
No it doesnโ€™t. Fascism exists solely to resist workers movements and Marxism.
Anonymous No.213576961 >>213577042
>>213576892 (OP)
Marx isn't even the most influential man of his century.
Anonymous No.213576967 >>213576985
>>213576892 (OP)
>communist
>human
Anonymous No.213576984
>>213576954
So is transvestite mental illness, which communism is the economic/social system equivalent of.
Anonymous No.213576985 >>213577071 >>213577077
>>213576967
Marx wasnโ€™t a communist.
Anonymous No.213576986 >>213577391
>>213576892 (OP)
I know you're just joking but there isn't a good biopic of Hitler yet. Downfall was good but hardly a 5/5 and it only details the final fragment of his life. A solid biopic of comparable quality that delves into his full life would require a 10-part miniseries at least. HBO could do it if they weren't such kikes.
Anonymous No.213576988
>>213576954
Cuba superpower 2075
Anonymous No.213576995 >>213577035 >>213577124
>>213576960
>No it doesn't
When was marxism invented
When was fascism invented
Anonymous No.213577035 >>213577094
>>213576995
Fascism as we know it emerged in the 20th century, not with Cincinnatus you pedantic faggot.
Anonymous No.213577042 >>213577075
>>213576892 (OP)
>>213576904
>>213576961
>>213576960
>>213576954
Marxism is a mental disorder.
Anonymous No.213577071
>>213576985
No he wasn't.
He sought to replace a legacy oligarchy with a jewish oligarchy while selling the working class on an brain dead ideology created to consolidate wealth and power at the top.
Anonymous No.213577075 >>213577332
>>213577042
capitalism goes against human nature of tribal living.
Anonymous No.213577077 >>213577484
>>213576985
He was a jew. Thats bad enough
Anonymous No.213577094
>>213577035
So fascism came after marxism? Fascism proceeds marxism. Glad we agree
Anonymous No.213577124 >>213577189 >>213577222
>>213576995
>When was marxism invented
1830s-40s
>When was fascism invented
1910s-20s

any other questions?
Anonymous No.213577129 >>213577186
>>213576892 (OP)
His life wasnt that interesting, just kind of pathetic
Anonymous No.213577186 >>213577205
>>213577129
So what. He is an influential figure in the history of mankind. Might as well see what he was up to privately.
Anonymous No.213577189
>>213577124
I wish marxists didn't supplant 'bonapartist' with 'fascist' for their go-to pejorative. It made them sound much more psychotic
Anonymous No.213577205 >>213577259
>>213577186
>inverts Hegel and inadvertently starts a political movement that he is barely involved in
>drinks heavily
>spends most of him time hanging out at bars with friends
>has a bunch of kids but canโ€™t provide at all
Anonymous No.213577209
>>213576892 (OP)
He's right about capitalism and that throughout history of organised states people survived by making themselves useful to the elites who actually owned things whether that be through being a slave/serf or cannon fodder in wars.

it's just his ideas on how to overcome the oppression of this elite class over the labour class are where he is less correct.
Anonymous No.213577217 >>213577259
Because his life was boring and desu he was pretty much a complete loser
It'd be like making a biopic of a random neet
Anonymous No.213577222 >>213577251 >>213577253 >>213577349
>>213577124
Are Sparta and the Roman Empire not considered fascist?
Anonymous No.213577251
>>213577222
The word nationalism wasn't coined until the 1800s, doesn't mean the concept of nations didn't exist until then
Anonymous No.213577253 >>213577333 >>213577431 >>213578879
>>213577222
No. Sparta was an oligarchy as was the Roman Empire. Fascism requires democracy and capitalism to exist. The whole point of fascism is to override democracy to โ€œsaveโ€ capitalism from the working class through brute force and political violence. It is not just authoritarianism.
Anonymous No.213577259
>>213577205
>>213577217

I don't care because they'll have some obligatory scenes of Keira Knightley getting choked and slapped or something. They always sauce it up in these historical biopics. Someone always gets their titty out.
Anonymous No.213577290 >>213577323 >>213577349
didn't socialism originally come from the 'German Social' movement where the Germans talked amongst themselves about 'how best do we serve our fellow Germans'? Then Marx concocted his own subverted version which was entirely materialistic and all about fomenting as much conflict and violence between different groups, while also making it (((international))).

It's like the difference between an authentic Gucci bag and the cheap Chinese knock-off.
Anonymous No.213577323
>>213577290
Communism was initially a Christfag โ€œutopianโ€ thing where a bunch of weirdos would go off somewhere and live together with everything held in common. Marx saw these movements as self defeating since they inevitably required capital to continue and thus had to resort to some kind of wage labor. He was right. Also a lot of these communes were sex cults and shit
Anonymous No.213577332 >>213577352 >>213577366
>>213577075
Marx never mentioned tribal living.
Anonymous No.213577333 >>213578273
>>213577253
Lol they made me read Karl Popper in school too. I hope you can uncage your mind one day
Anonymous No.213577340
>>213576892 (OP)
>most influential human
genghis khan
Anonymous No.213577349
>>213577222
no. fascism is specifically a modernist ideology. it can't exist before liberalism because its pretty explicitly a reaction to liberalism becoming hegemonic.

>>213577290
no, whatever bullshit you're talking about is almost certainly some nazi propaganda to "reclaim" socialism. marx was mostly drawing from british and french worker movements because those were the only remotely industrial economies in the early 19th century. germany was still an agricultural society and outside of prussia it was a shithole.
Anonymous No.213577352 >>213577366 >>213577444
>>213577332
That was the mistake he made. He failed to take into account that humans want to live in a tribal way.
Anonymous No.213577358 >>213577377 >>213577386
Why do Russians look slightly Asian?
Anonymous No.213577366 >>213577444 >>213577451
>>213577352
>>213577332
He called it โ€œprimitive communismโ€ actually. He was still a German living in the most racist era ever after all.
Anonymous No.213577377
>>213577358
They don't
Stay off /pol/
Anonymous No.213577386
>>213577358

Russians were originally a mix of nordic (viking) colonists and slavic tribes. Then they got overrun by mongols and blended with them.
Anonymous No.213577391 >>213578382
>>213576986
They would only shame him and sully his legacy by telling a bunch of jew lies. Sadly it can never be.
Anonymous No.213577393
They made at least one, I know because Chapo Trap House reviewed one once.
Anonymous No.213577394
I want a jojo rabbit-esque whimsical comedy/ alt history wherein Marx actually does move to Texas to join the German community there (he was seriously considering it at one time.)
Anonymous No.213577431 >>213577500 >>213577531
>>213577253
>The whole point of communism is to override democracy to โ€œsaveโ€ society from the working class through brute force and political violence.
man I love eating from the trashbin of ideology
Anonymous No.213577444 >>213577472
>>213577366
>>213577352

Regardless, there's no evidence that ancient tribes are like what Marx imagined where there's no hierarchy and everyone's treated equally.
Anonymous No.213577451
>>213577366
it was primitive not because they were racially inferior but because they were accumulating wealth inefficiently, moving to new lands and harvesting whatever resources they could easily grab. this is compared to "non-primitive" accumulation seen in sedentary economies where you take resources and refine them into valuable items. even the slave economies of the classical world had progressed beyond primitive accumulation
Anonymous No.213577468
>>213576892 (OP)
Why's he doing that thing with his hand, prole-bros?
Anonymous No.213577472 >>213577885
>>213577444
He was talking about their economic structures rather than their social ones. And yes there is quite a bit of evidence that suggests he was right. Sharing was a huge part of their culture. People who hoarded resources were not just seen as greedy but also potentially demonic in nature. That being said Marx never wanted humanity to go back to that kind of lifestyle.
Anonymous No.213577482
>>213576892 (OP)
Oh freemason
Anonymous No.213577484
>>213577077
No, he wasn't.
He wanted every Jew to stop being a special snowflake and convert.
Anonymous No.213577500 >>213578298
>>213577431
>The whole point of communism is to override democracy
Anon, I...
Anonymous No.213577504 >>213577523
Communism is fuckin gay
Anonymous No.213577523 >>213578356
>>213577504
Wait until you find out what capitalists do every June
Anonymous No.213577531 >>213577544 >>213577753
>>213577431
is this what righoids seriously understand communism to be? whats it like to live in a bizzaro world where up is down
Anonymous No.213577544
>>213577531
Read Zizek. Believing in anything is dumb.
Anonymous No.213577549 >>213577571 >>213577595
What's with all you pseuds constantly trying to ad hoc define fascism, communism and such... this is all done already. A solved and well researched matter and here you are trying to flex your "no dude, this OTHER book I read says that ..." nonsense.
Anonymous No.213577571 >>213577623
>>213577549
Fascists really really want to believe that fascism is some deep political movement when in reality itโ€™s just a reaction to a falling rate of profit by capitalists and/or a response to increasingly successful workersโ€™ movements.
Anonymous No.213577588
Its quite obvious that most of you are retards, so to understand communism better, just remember:

>From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
Anonymous No.213577595 >>213578381
>>213577549
>What's with all you pseuds constantly trying to ad hoc define concepts which have countless interpretations and have been applied in wildly varying ways for over 100 years
Anonymous No.213577623
>>213577571
fascism at the root is nothing more than the death throes of capitalism
either the workers successfully drag society forward, kicking and screaming if needed, or everything implodes and you get nightmare societies like weimar germany and 90s russia
Anonymous No.213577631 >>213577655 >>213577695 >>213578537 >>213578743
one simple fact
Anonymous No.213577655 >>213577696 >>213577712
>>213577631
The capitalist class heavily supported fascism tho
Anonymous No.213577695 >>213577712
>>213577631
never look into who funded the NSDAP my little /pol/tard
hint: it was average joes giving small reichsmark donations
Anonymous No.213577696 >>213577704 >>213577709
>>213577655
Only because of the Soviet Union
Anonymous No.213577704
>>213577696
so they were so terrified of the communists they funded the fascist to stop the commies?
the exact opposite of what your shitty /pol/ meme is trying to say?
Anonymous No.213577709
>>213577696
Proving that they were much more opposed to communism than fascism. The exact opposite of your image.
Anonymous No.213577712 >>213577736 >>213577763 >>213577792
>>213577655
it was the middle class, normal people living their life
while ultra rich people are sociopaths, because normal working brain will not push for the 100m, 1b, 100b type of fortune
>>213577695
i know, and i know who was giving money to 1920s ussr
Anonymous No.213577713 >>213577794
>>213576892 (OP)
Anonymous No.213577736
>>213577712
In Germany at least fascism was supported by the petite bourgeoisie (small business owners) and the actual capitalists. They called themselves โ€œNational Socialistsโ€ shore up support from actual working people.
Anonymous No.213577753 >>213577767 >>213577802 >>213578073
>>213577531
surplus labor theory is horseshit. The hole thing rests on that concept. The the whole religious aspect of communism is even more cringe then lolberts . Marx literally claims that commuism is inevitable like the resurrection or something. That the surplus labor will out and the system will fail.

Most communists have never read "das Captial" or "the communist manifesto". and if they did, they are too dense to see the religious allegory that Marx couldn't seem to separate himself from.
Anonymous No.213577763
>>213577712
>it was the middle class, normal people living their life
LOOOL
source: the crackpipe
lets just ignore hitler agreeing to purge the party of anyone that wanted to focus on the socialist part so that krupp, IG farben and the other industrial capitalists would keep financing him
Anonymous No.213577767 >>213577895
>>213577753
>capitalism is le natural
Probably the most retarded cope ever
Anonymous No.213577781 >>213577802 >>213577805 >>213577859 >>213578498
Liberal capitalism has provided the working class with the greatest prosperity in history. Regardless of any moral objections you have, free markets just allocate resources more efficiently.
Anonymous No.213577792
>>213577712
Dodge bros weren't even Jewish
Anonymous No.213577794
>>213577713
Marx hated Judaism.
Anonymous No.213577802 >>213577834 >>213577895
>>213577753
>commuism is inevitable
it is, in the same way that you eating or breathing is inevitable. there's no magical force making it happen but if you don't do it you die. society either becomes socialist or it dies out as the capitalists consume everything to fight the falling rate of profit

>>213577781
8/8 enjoy your (You), if you're even human
Anonymous No.213577805
>>213577781
Most of the gains for the working class under capitalism came from working class movements forcing capitalists to make concessions. Notice how most western countries started rolling back entitlements once the Cold War ended.
Anonymous No.213577829
>>213576892 (OP)
Test
Anonymous No.213577834 >>213577850 >>213577878
>>213577802
>falling rate of profit
This is basically the flat earth of economics. You people can't accept that Marx was wrong.
Anonymous No.213577850 >>213577960 >>213578560
>>213577834
If economics were a hard science recessions wouldnโ€™t be a thing. Shut your fucking mouth.
Anonymous No.213577859 >>213577919
>>213577781
>greatest prosperity in history
yeah man, paying 1k a month for some shitty studio apartment is the pinnacle of human existence. going bankrupt because you need an ambulance ride is what all our ancestors were looking forward to
>free markets just allocate resources more efficiently
have you actually looked at a private business and seen how much money is pissed away on pointless managers managing managers to manage managers in HR, while the workers have to go on food stamps because the pay is so shit? the only thing the free market is efficient at is maximizing profits
Anonymous No.213577878 >>213577985
>>213577834
bourgeois economics is astrology for bowtie wearing incels, there can't be anything close to flat earth beliefs in modern economics because none of it is real at all. it is pure 100% copium to excuse the inexcusable
Anonymous No.213577885
>>213577472
Evidence of sharing isn't the same as everything being shared equally. Marx didn't reference or study the work of any anthropologist or archaeologist.
Anonymous No.213577895 >>213577973
>>213577767
You can't deny the secular moralism of communism. Surplus labor theory is complete crap.

Lets get a few things through to you religious nuts. All things are natural. Slavery and rape are social constructs that are only rejected for utilitarian reasons. A communist will come at you with "this is wrong". Why what standard?
>>213577802
That is all assuming labor theory of value is true. But even if it was true. What is the to stop our current system from reverting to feudalism or slavery? Two valid and functioning systems that the Jewish man Marx spoke of.

once again, most of Communism is rooted in the idea of "justice", and "equality". Social constructs.
Anonymous No.213577897
>>213576892 (OP)
i don't know who karl marx is and i've been alive 36 years. so he can't be that influential.
is this some gender theory shit?
Anonymous No.213577919 >>213578008
>>213577859
USSR had huge bureaucracies too.
Anonymous No.213577936
>>213576892 (OP)
>human
I'm not an expert on biology but I'm pretty sure that is a jew and not a human
Anonymous No.213577938 >>213577972
>>213576892 (OP)
Nobody would make an unbiased biopic of him so what's the point?. At least when you go further back in history you can get more accurate versions of people.
Anonymous No.213577960 >>213578003
>>213577850
This is like saying if meteorology was a hard science, hurricanes wouldn't be a thing. It's precisely because it's a science that we know recessions are inevitable.
Anonymous No.213577972 >>213578225
>>213577938
You silly goose, there's never been an unbiased biopic.
There isn't even such a thing as 'unbiased art'.
Anonymous No.213577973 >>213578158 >>213578610
>>213577895
in the actual world we live in, the socialist states would simply outcompete the reverted feudal societies. feudalism precludes capitalism and with it industry, so obviously the industrialized socialist states would conquer the post industrial neofeudal states
I'm sure you'd love to argue about the hypothetical world in which every country simultaneously reverts to feudalism but that's just cope to avoid recognizing that thefuture is socialist
Anonymous No.213577985 >>213578012 >>213578032
>>213577878
Capitalism and Communism are both social constructs. I don't care about your larp or "grand dialectical materialism and history". I have a wife and 2 kids. I have never once met a communist who reproduced or didn't entertain the idea of sucking cock. Most of you retards never read anything about communism. You are literally gay and want to have free shit. But I do like real world communism. I don't believe morals exist, or justice. But it is funny as fuck to see Stalin kill so many communist faggots. Stalin is based for that. China is also based for banning gay shit Not real communism, but based.
Anonymous No.213578003 >>213578038
>>213577960
Economists have even argued against the use of the scientific method.
It's not a science. It's some asshole philosophizing around the nature of man and adding some statistics to make it look sophisticated.

It's a sub field of sociology and even sociology does more empirical studies.
Anonymous No.213578008 >>213578278
>>213577919
>bureaucracy existing is the same as the wasting massive amounts of money on fake jobs that do nothing
yes, the soviet bureaucracy was huge. it had to manage the 2nd largest economy on the planet. what justification do corporations have to hire people who's only job is to scroll through facebook while they "manage" the assistant deputy vice manager of management operations
Anonymous No.213578012 >>213578158
>>213577985
>I have never once met a communist who reproduced or didn't entertain the idea of sucking cock
This says more about your social circles than it does about communists lmao
Anonymous No.213578025
>no one mentioning The Young Karl Marx (2017)
Anonymous No.213578032 >>213578158
>>213577985
>immediately devolves into insulting the other person
since we're clearly done talking like adults, how's your morning in tel aviv chaim?
Anonymous No.213578038 >>213578151
>>213578003
>Economists have even argued against the use of the scientific method.
Only retarded Austrians who worship Mises the way commies worship Marx. Neither of them have been able to deliver a system that out competes liberal capitalism that bases economic policy on historical evidence.
Anonymous No.213578073 >>213578092 >>213578093 >>213578097 >>213578174 >>213578278
>>213577753
>Marx literally claims
Every influential communist icon (Marx, Che Guevara, Fidel, Lenin, Stalin, Engels) were all highly educated, wealthy, privileged, rich kids. They talked about revolutions for the working class, without ever having any idea on what it was to do any form of hard labor.
Anonymous No.213578087
>>213576892 (OP)
Here's a good doco
https://youtu.be/YnwC8WxKMMc?si=HuE7jC5iAOV1NC5V
Anonymous No.213578092
>>213578073
Stalin grew up poor and abused. Fidel was a chad though ngl
Anonymous No.213578093 >>213578582
>>213578073
People that do "hard labor" don't have time to sit down and write tracts on how to better their lot in life.
That doesn't mean that some smart person is prohibited from doing that for them, you snobby cunt.
Anonymous No.213578097 >>213578128
>>213578073
Stalin was the son of an impoverished shoemaker.

Just a poor humble country boy from Georgia.
Anonymous No.213578113 >>213578117
>>213576954
>Fascism is the ideology of losers.
Lmao
>Communism is still going strong.
Lmao
Anonymous No.213578117 >>213578245 >>213578278
>>213578113
China is an economic juggernaut
Anonymous No.213578128
>>213578097
>Stalin was the son of an impoverished shoemaker.

Is that why Stalin made shoes the national vegetable of Russia?
Anonymous No.213578145 >>213578163
>>213576954
There isn't a communist state that exists in the year 2025
Anonymous No.213578151 >>213578305 >>213578592
>>213578038
>a system that out competes liberal capitalism
china lol. muh heckin free marketerino US has literally 1% the shipbuilding capacity of socialist china thanks to capitalist chasing quick returns to fight against the falling rate of profit
>b-b-b-b-but they copied capitalism!!
you mean to tell me that societies move through stages and each stage builds upon the previous stage, the fundamental thesis of historical materialism? both stalin and deng understood you cannot move directly from feudalism to socialism, you must pass through capitalism (at least economically).
that's marx's entire point, that capitalism is progressive in its ability to build up productive capacity and then becomes regressive when its built up that capacity but refuses to yield to socialism

the capitalists aren't sending their best folks
Anonymous No.213578158 >>213578228
>>213577973
I mean, would you not call North Korea a neo Feudal state? What about early Soviet Russia? It is all crap and you fucking know it. I have a useless fucking degree in economics, hate libertarians. but lets be real. Communist are religious nuts.
>>213578012
To be fair, I live in the south and served the faggot loving US government in the Iraq war. Glad the good guys won against us. You see, the sand N*ggers are right about allot of things. They were pretty good at keeping faggot captialists and faggot communists out of there country.

>>213578032
Communist cannot be adults. You are religious nuts.
>justice matters
>"morals" matter
>"exploitation is wrong"
>"The second coming of Communism will happen as sure as the sun will rise."

I went to college, I have read das Capital and the Communist manifesto cover to cover. You are dumb faggot retard. This is 4chan, not reddit. Eat cock. You don't even have a moral foundation to justify anything other then materialism, which makes you no better the the kikes you are against and serve. Stalin would have killed retards like you because he is based.
Anonymous No.213578163
>>213578145
There has never been a state where the workers own the means of production.
Anonymous No.213578174 >>213578279
>>213578073
Anonymous No.213578225 >>213578291 >>213578516
>>213577972
what does a painting of clouds count as
Anonymous No.213578228 >>213578418
>>213578158
>To be fair, I live in the south and served as a zogbot in the army and got a degree in boy-astrology
ok so you're an inbred hick. that explains why you think being "adult" is being a sociopath

>early soviet russia
yeah it was still feudal. the soviet government spent the first 10 years of its existence fighting both a civil war and an invasion to restore the monarchy. wasn't until the late 20s early 30s that it fully transitioned to an industrial economy.
Anonymous No.213578245 >>213578295 >>213578319 >>213578363
>>213578117
>China
>bans faggot marriage
>"Communist and builds your fucking iphone"
>"Arrest that jewish billionaire."

fucking lol. China is a fascist ethnostate by every faggot metric.
Anonymous No.213578273
>>213577333
Yeah respond to people like a smarmy faggot all you want. It doesn't change the reality.
Anonymous No.213578278
>>213578117
ask average commie if they claim china as "communist" economy, because once china is communist, then china is capitalist
>>213578073
yes, most of them were kids from wealthy families and their main job "("intellectual") was to "write books and talk" than producing nails or wheels (actual goods), see >>213578008 for "what justification do corporations have to hire people who's only job is to scroll through facebook"
stalin was the "gangster from the streets", because ussr was a criminal institution
Anonymous No.213578279
>>213578174
Anonymous No.213578291
>>213578225
Anything displaying skilled craftsmanship is chud and low brow, didn't you know. The gallery owner's niece's period blood paintings are politically correct.
Anonymous No.213578295 >>213578324 >>213578393
>>213578245
Actual communists have always seen fagogtry as bourgeois decadence.
It's fascists who are constantly involved in gay shit. German commies during Weimar literally bullied nazis for being fags.
Anonymous No.213578298
>>213577500
Who put Lenin in power? It sure wasn't a revolution of Russian citizens.
Anonymous No.213578305 >>213578409 >>213578418
>>213578151
>muh heckin free marketerino US has literally 1% the shipbuilding capacity of socialist china thanks to capitalist chasing quick returns to fight against the falling rate of profit
Can you elaborate?
Anonymous No.213578319 >>213578377 >>213578418
>>213578245
>China is a fascist
>being socially conservative is now all it takes to be fascist
you have to go back
country that hangs capitalists for sacrificing workers to make a profit is now a heckin fascism because they don't import foreigners to depress wages
Anonymous No.213578324
>>213578295
And they went extinct in the 70s if not sooner.
Anonymous No.213578356
>>213577523
Name a modern communist, shitlib.
Anonymous No.213578363 >>213578504 >>213578525
>>213578245
Nobody yapping about "fascism" has a definition. The historical definition was about entwining national and business interests, to make the business sector serve the nation, exactly like China.
Anonymous No.213578377 >>213578400 >>213578439
>>213578319
He's right, China has essentially transitioned into a fascist economy. Which is to say a capitalist one that answers to a one party government.
Anonymous No.213578381
>>213577595
kek. /thread
Anonymous No.213578382
>>213577391
they had a great opportunity despite a low budget when they got hold of Robert Carlyle for young Hitler but they forced in a bunch of propaganda rubbish and pushed him into a maniacal anti-social sadist mode so typical of western portrayals of Hitler. They couldn't help themselves, even the title tagline is "The Rise of Evil"
Anonymous No.213578393
>>213578295
Communists promote homosexuality in non-communist countries to degrade enemy culture. This is common knowledge.
Anonymous No.213578400
>>213578377
It has to due to imperialism. Without a centralized party the CIA would make quick work of them.
Anonymous No.213578406
>>213576892 (OP)
>>213576954
Communism is a red herring.
Anonymous No.213578409
>>213578305
very first link from googling "china ship building".
>https://www.csis.org/analysis/china-dominates-shipbuilding-industry
turns out china doesn't have 100x the capacity, its more like 500x the capacity. my numbers were outdated
western capitalists moved or sold all the factories to china in the 80s/90s/00s because chinese labor at that time was very cheap and american labor was expensive. lower wages = higher profits
china took note of how the factories operated and eventually build their own factories based on the plans they copied. these were either state owned or privately owned by people the party could control. they could then kick out or shut down the western factories and make the west reliant on their factories because the west gave away all its factories decades ago. plenty of western companies voluntarily became dependent because buying the chinese stuff was cheaper than trying to run their own factories
Anonymous No.213578418 >>213578486 >>213578727
>>213578228
>"its called being a good person"
>"Rape and murder is wrong"
>"stop fucking over poor people"

FUCKING WHY? There are no moral laws in science. Communism is wrapped up in moral assumptions of justice. "Justice". SOCIAL CONSTRUCT. Rape and murder are also moral constructs. The issue you have is that you have no moral foundation for communism. and the "social science" foundation. "we will run out of surplus level then the second coming of communism will happen"

>>213578305
>>213578319
Some high IQ posts but here is your issue. Modern communist are anti-family, anti-religion ect. I would be fine if our faggot government was communist, but they would probably do what Communist have done historically and ban Churches, rape and kill nuns ect. That is the main issue. Communist are atheist and do not have a moral foundation. What you call social conservative is just being practical. "faggot counties don't have kids, we need higher birthrates". Which I agree is better then the Israel controlled US. But communist on paper and historically hate me, want me dead, and want to burn down churches.
Anonymous No.213578421 >>213578467
>>213576892 (OP)
Hey why does he have his hand inside his jacket like that? Kind of odd pose for a picture, I wonder why he chose to do that?
Anonymous No.213578433
>>213576892 (OP)
his was 100 times more interesting
Anonymous No.213578439 >>213578592 >>213578686
>>213578377
>capitalist one
industrial != capitalist
the worker's state controls the economy. this nonsense is the ultimate western cope because they can never admit that socialism has simply out competed capitalism on the open market
Anonymous No.213578467 >>213578515
>>213578421
He's checking if he has enough kapital to pay the photographer.
Anonymous No.213578486 >>213578546
>>213578418
>There are no moral laws in science.
>inbred lolbert hick continues to be an inbred lolbert hick
its ok, people like you will be given a nice stay in a mental institution so you don't hurt anyone under a socialist state. you'll even get nice crayons to keep yourself busy
Anonymous No.213578498
>>213577781
I am your first non-/co/mblr troon reply. You are welcome.
Anonymous No.213578504 >>213578569
>>213578363
I just use Eco's definition
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/umberto-eco-ur-fascism
Anonymous No.213578515
>>213578467
Ah yes, that must be it. Yes, indeed. Good call, old chap.
Anonymous No.213578516
>>213578225
There are lots of different ways to paint clouds.
How few or how many are there?
What color is the sky?
What size is the canvas?
What angle are we looking at them from?
These things and many more say something about the artist and their outlook.
Anonymous No.213578525 >>213578541 >>213578549
>>213578363
>make the business sector serve the nation,
fascism is when the business sector becomes the state you retard. business serving the state is called nationalization, which is a socialist policy
Anonymous No.213578535 >>213578577
Ok but are clouds right wing or left wing?
Anonymous No.213578537
>>213577631
this image is the mega btfo. "capitalism" and "democracy" are being used to mass-defenestrate and replace white people with browns. blood and soil is all that matters, culture comes from race.
Anonymous No.213578541
>>213578525
Fascism is when the state directly serves business interests. Nazis privatized a shitload of services and cracked down on all labor organization.
Anonymous No.213578546 >>213578556 >>213578743
>>213578486
Queer faggot. I have a wife and kids. You are an incel faggot who thinks sucking cock is ok. I am not from the south originally, I am from the volga river Russia . I love the American south because like Russia they are kindred spirits.
Anonymous No.213578549
>>213578525
You just say things. There's no coherent thought behind any of it.
Anonymous No.213578556
>>213578546
The confederacy lasted like 4 years. The USSR lasted for generations
Anonymous No.213578560
>>213577850
>Shut your fucking mouth.
Posted by a seething, anorexic troon
Anonymous No.213578561
Bros, if capitalism is so strong why has Marx defeated Ford in this rap battle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjqjoehA7kM
Anonymous No.213578569 >>213578650
>>213578504

>theanarchistlibrary.org

anything from an unbiased source maybe?
Anonymous No.213578570
>>213576954
>most successful communist nations are the ones that strip away the communist part
Anonymous No.213578577
>>213578535
Clouds are free.
Anonymous No.213578582 >>213578600
>>213578093
If you believe that laborers need educated people to do their thinking for them, you're exactly the person I would despise as being an Governmental employee.
Anonymous No.213578592
>>213578151
>that's marx's entire point, that capitalism is progressive in its ability to build up productive capacity
which is why we say corporations, ngos and political parties are commie agenda, they use "capitalism" to enslave people to turn them against capitalism, to later enslave them with world wide communism instead of letting them create nat-soc or whatever other social system they want
look >>213578439 because western countries were founding factories in "named as socialist/communist china"
if you are le evil capitalist, do you buy a factory for the communists that are "openly against you"?
Anonymous No.213578599 >>213578614
>>213576904
he wouldn't
Anonymous No.213578600 >>213578930
>>213578582
>need
I said they don't have TIME... because of the HARD LABOR they do all day, you snobby cunt (x2)
Anonymous No.213578610
>>213577973
>so obviously the industrialized socialist states would conquer
Just like the USSR, Cuba, China, North Korea, and Venezuela. Right, champ?
Anonymous No.213578613 >>213578635
>this is the fastest moving thread
Is /tv/ a politics board?
Anonymous No.213578614 >>213578651
>>213578599
Why were Europeans so casually anti semitic?
Anonymous No.213578620 >>213578667
>>213576954
>Communism is still going strong.
yap
LOTS of genocide going on right now
Anonymous No.213578635 >>213578652 >>213578692
>>213578613
God damnit. The way you zoomers post these questions makes me want to blow my fucking brains out. Can't you incite conversation like you ARE NOT a contemptuous anal-attentive sperg?
Anonymous No.213578641 >>213578652
>Hated Jews
>Hated Niggers
>Hated women
>Hated homos
Karl Marx was a chud
Anonymous No.213578650
>>213578569
It's just an Umberto Eco essay.
And it even mention the source where they got it from: https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/
Anonymous No.213578651
>>213578614
because they had to live with them
Anonymous No.213578652 >>213578706
>>213578641
Answer me (>>213578635)
like a man, you troon faggot.
Anonymous No.213578667 >>213578678
>>213578620
>he doesn't know
communists are in every usa university, they are in corporations, they are on the stock market, they are in your government
they are not open about it, but they keep working on their plan
Anonymous No.213578678 >>213579132
>>213578667
Where have I seen this wording before?
Anonymous No.213578686
>>213578439
>the worker's state controls the economy
You could say that about literally any economy you fucking dolt.
Anonymous No.213578692 >>213578707
>>213578635
I am 32 but nice try. I was just asking since I have plenty of non-movie/television related subjects in mind and I would love to dump them on /tv/. Unfortunately the moderation is filled with trannies that delete some of these thread while allowing others to thrive.
Anonymous No.213578706 >>213578721
>>213578652
Retarded faggot that's not me. Imagine being such a schizo.
Anonymous No.213578707 >>213578735
>>213578692
You are terrible at trying to relate to me on a human level, Moshe. Practice not being a commie troon peddler and having some actual consistent moral integrity for a few years.
Anonymous No.213578708 >>213578756
>might makes right
ergo liberalism is more right then fascism since we beat you

>contradictions force change and society always progresses dialetical history
so thats why 1989 happened and socialism has been replaced by us.

both are dead and will stay dead.
Anonymous No.213578717
There needs to be kino about the Coal Wars.
Anonymous No.213578721 >>213578759
>>213578706
>schizo
Anything further you say is now instantly devalued. No one takes dishonest freaks seriously.
Anonymous No.213578723
>>213576892 (OP)
YWNBAW
Anonymous No.213578727 >>213578751
>>213578418
Only based post in this thread(excepting that Evola was a homosexual pagan).

I do not give a fuck what economic system I live under. I do not care if I have the latest iPhone or have to eat cornsilk soup by candlelight every night. What I want is a wife and children and church and to not live near any brown people.
Anonymous No.213578735 >>213578760
>>213578707
>implying I like communism
Every normal human being hates communism you faggot(except retards that worships Che).
Anonymous No.213578743 >>213578780
>>213576940
The only people who made fascism work are the Chinese.
>>213577631
The Nazis only existed because of rich capitalist funding from groups like Krupp.
>>213578546
Least obvious pidor
Anonymous No.213578751
>>213578727
Just move to Poland.
Anonymous No.213578756 >>213578827
>>213578708
>just let your nation degenerate and conjure up copes about "MUH GDP"
liberalism, more like death by the propagandists who control the money supply
Anonymous No.213578759 >>213578788
>>213578721
>now instantly devalued
Lol. Your opinion has as much value as the toilet paper I use to clean my ass.
Anonymous No.213578760 >>213578828
>>213578735
>Hurr I know I'm posting at the tail end of my thread with the same syntax as the past hour, but I'm totally a new guy who hates commies just like you, anon!
What a pathetic attempt.
Anonymous No.213578780
>>213578743
Nationalist Spain did it better
Anonymous No.213578788
>>213578759
Is that why you need your last word, troon? Because you believe my opinion is invaluable? Okay. Let's see if you can help yourself this time.
Anonymous No.213578827 >>213578862
>>213578756
your despotic murderous ideologies are dead and will stay dead no matter how much you bitch or how much the russians propagandize you.

you probably arent even a member of any organizations or participate in politics.
Anonymous No.213578828 >>213578954
>>213578760
>>Hurr I know I'm posting at the tail end of my thread with the same syntax as the past hour,
You are absolutely retarded. Disliking off topic garbage=liking communism. Link 4 or 5 of my posts and I will post a screenshot with them. After that you can keep coping.
Anonymous No.213578862 >>213578946
>>213578827
every authentic post from the plebeians here is a little spit in your disgusting, bloated, ugly, inbred pig face. I like that :)
Anonymous No.213578879
>>213577253
Wtf are you talking about
Anonymous No.213578894
>>213576892 (OP)
That's not a picture of Jesus.
Anonymous No.213578930
>>213578600
>I said they don't have TIME
You obviously have no idea what it's like to work in any form of labor.
You seem to consider laborers as a lower class, unable to do critical thinking about their position in society
I know plenty guys who work construction, and you'd be surprised on their insights on their jobs and function in society
.
Anonymous No.213578946 >>213578968
>>213578862
its not spit its foam from rabid angry dogs
Anonymous No.213578950
>lazy NEET writes some essays based on shitty circular logic
not exactly gripping stuff
Anonymous No.213578954 >>213578990
>>213578828
>Mossad agents are so out of touch they think anons will fall for HTML-edit
Anonymous No.213578968 >>213578993 >>213579023
>>213578946
>t. rabidly seethes about Sam Hyde and Nick Fuentes in the daily 20 Sam Hyde and now Nick Fuentes cope threads on /tv/
other boards are probably astroturfed as well
Anonymous No.213578990 >>213579011
>>213578954
That's why I asked you to link multiple of them you retard. That should take someone at least a minute to edit and I will post the screenshot in less than 1 minute. I only have 1 post outside of these 2 reply chains with (you) but keep believing whatever you want, delusional bitch.
Anonymous No.213578993
>>213578968
This site has been utterly compromised by glowies and waves of leftypol troons since April
Anonymous No.213579011 >>213579030
>>213578990
>NOOOOO WHY WON'T YOU LET ME TRICK YOU WITH LE BROWSER TRICKS
topkek
Anonymous No.213579023 >>213579048 >>213579049 >>213579066
>>213578968
>Sam Hyde and now Nick Fuentes
I don't know about Sam, But Fuentes is the most obvious shill i've ever seen, why would you even bring that clown up?
Anonymous No.213579030 >>213579078
>>213579011
>soijaks
>iphone filenames
I am starting to think that you are a zoomer and that was just a projection in your first post. Whatever, I don't care anymore.
Anonymous No.213579048 >>213579140
>>213579023
WHo do you think Fuentes a shill for?
Anonymous No.213579049 >>213579081 >>213579140
>>213579023
>why would you bring up figureheads skyrocketing in popularity who are openly critical of the people who control and fund the decline of the West via "democracy" and "liberalism" and advocate for "le evil doubleplus bad FASCISM"
idk lol!!!!
Anonymous No.213579066 >>213579092
>>213579023
because thats what he thinks his political leaders and org are and he is right fascism in the west has been reduced to podcast bro and a twink.
Anonymous No.213579078 >>213579187
>>213579030
Yes that would be quite convenient for you, wouldn't it? Surely only young adults and teenagers own iphones. Apple has been getting unprecedented sales due to the obvious rapid increase in young entrepreneurs, correct? Ah, but to admit this would be to bend knee to LE TRAPPINGS OF CAPITALISM AND LE BOURGEOIS!!! You are the most obvious sack of shit retard I've crossed paths with online in weeks.
Anonymous No.213579081 >>213579092
>>213579049
>>why would you bring up figureheads skyrocketing in popularity who are openly critical of the people who control and fund the decline of the West via "democracy" and "liberalism" and advocate for "le evil doubleplus bad FASCISM"
holy shit lmao he actualy does think 2 podcasts are a political movement lmao
Anonymous No.213579092 >>213579105 >>213579107
>>213579066
>>213579081
Tucker "CIA" Carlson was literally praising Nick before Nick massively BTFO him lmao. le fascism is mainstream.
Anonymous No.213579099 >>213579143
It's always been funny to me the way people will suck off Adam Smith yet throw a fit about Marx despite them both being classical economists in the same vein.
Anonymous No.213579105 >>213579126
>>213579092
How is Nick Fuentes as fascist for staging a people's revolution? I thought you trannies love that stuff.
Anonymous No.213579107 >>213579126
>>213579092
>le fascism is mainstream.

so how many political organizations has this resulted in?
Have any formed now that its mainstream?
Anonymous No.213579126 >>213579139 >>213579148
>>213579105
>>213579107
oh no no
Anonymous No.213579132
>>213578678
tf is this?
Anonymous No.213579139 >>213579158
>>213579126
Yeah I can also act like a huge faggot while cops give a group of people a live network TV guided tour of the capital building.
Anonymous No.213579140 >>213579151
>>213579048
>>213579049
Fuentes is a version of Ben Shapiro being controlled opposition
Anonymous No.213579143
>>213579099
Adam Smith would turn into a crazy commie if he ever saw our current capitalist system.
Anonymous No.213579148
>>213579126
what is that?
Anonymous No.213579151
>>213579140
The whole Saudi Rumble thing is a little embarrassing
Anonymous No.213579158 >>213579182
>>213579139
>just put the reptilian gas helmet on bro
where's that epstein list
Anonymous No.213579182 >>213579192
>>213579158
>implying i'm a horseshoe faggot like yourself
KEK! get fucked troon! neither party likes you.
Anonymous No.213579187
>>213579078
>urely only young adults and teenagers own iphone
Only dumb zoomers use their phones all the time because they never had a proper childhood and their attention spans are fried so they need constant engagement. Iphones have ruined the internet and this little image is enough proof. I am sorry you weren't here to experience the old internet lol. Keep using your shitty jaks, retard.
Anonymous No.213579192
>>213579182
>failed sham illegitimate democracy doesn't like you
what a shame