Thread 213578178

I hate the web shooter. it look like shit

is that spiderman

>>213578178 (OP)
>implying they’re not gonna cgi over the whole thing

>>213578178 (OP)
Raimi was correct in making the webs organic.

>>213578203
No it is Spooderman

>>213578178 (OP)
I never got the fucking people that want a web shooter
What the FUCK is the point of him being a fucking SPIDER-man, if he couldn't have naturally the thing spiders are most famous for?
Whats even spiderish in his powers then?
>durr he can climb walls
Might as well be cockroach-man then?

>>213578178 (OP)
This shit needs to be a bit sleeker. This is approaching Supaida man shit.

due to marvels budget cuts

spiderman will no longer being web slinging

instead, he travels to his destination via the go-mobile

>>213578461
Why even bother with this, when its gonna be like 90% shit CGI in the end anyway

>>213578178 (OP)
There's something wrong with this costume or his figure. He looks weird.
>>213578487
At least it's not cgi

>>213578357
shut the fuck up retard

>>213578532
Was for >>213578487

>>213578487
what's insane about that

>>213578649
People who are exhilarated by capeslop are usually the type of people who are afraid to drive on a freeway.

Lost technology

>>213578532
>>213578648
reference for the VFX studio

>>213578719
The silver raised web lines really make the difference between a Halloween costume and something believably durable.

>>213578627
Nerd

>>213578357
Just stubborn tradition at this point. Raimi had the right idea to change that (which he took from Cameron's script) and over 99 percent of the populace, due to the trilogy, thinks he produces the webs from his wrists anyway. It's a stupid comic book thing just like everything else in that stupid, worthless medium.

>>213578540
Wrong!! he cute

>>213579157
ywnbaw

>>213578178 (OP)
I really like web shooters but simply because they can be a really nice aesthetic touch to the costume, which is pretty minimalist as far as superhero costumes go. The Ben Reilly suit is a fan favorite and the web shooters are an important part of it
But the idea that a teenager just invented a fluid that self replicates because it's seemingly endless, hardens into a material stronger than kevlar and more elastic than latex and can stick to literally any surface is literally retarded. Spiderman's intellect is on the level of a top tier professor. He's not a super genius like Reed Richards or Tony Stark. That's not even how intelligence works. Peter has received a high school level education, it doesn't matter how high his IQ is, he wouldn't know how to do any of that. He could sell those schematics for billions. The only way it makes sense is if his body produces it

>>213578203
No! It's Spider-Man.

>>213578487
Fun fact that explosion wasn't in the script that was just Glasgow on your average Saturday.

>>213579282
The idea is that the intuitive knowledge for how to make webs was given to him through genetic memory from the spider bite, so his intellect only needs to do half of the work.

>>213579331
Really? Is that from the comics? I've never heard that one before

>>213578178 (OP)
Who did it better?

>>213578972
Funny how it's a "stupid medium" until those ideas start shitting out billions of dollars and make numbskulls like you take notice for like 5 minutes between window licking sessions. The web shooters alone establish that Peter is not just some idiot kid with money troubles, he's extremely smart and likes to tinker with technology and science.
I can't fathom what the fuck problem anyone could have with him using web shooters.

>>213578487
so they have to sail all this crap to scotland?
al the yellowcabs, schoolbusses, citybusses, police cars, ambulances, city cars, just to pretend this is an american street?
wait till drumpf tariffs marvel for this

>>213578461
Okay but will he have Leopardon? Answer me.

>>213579282
They can easily go with a hybrid idea. Have it where he uses the mechanical tech to focus his naturally biological web shooters for more distance. Something like that.

>>213578802
Which he shouldn't have because he's some high school student with a budget of -20 bucks.

>>213578802
nah it's a matter what materials they use, the ASM1 suit looks expensive while the canonically stark made homecoming suits looks cheap as fuck.

>>213578178 (OP)
I'm not sure if I'm too used to looking at the CGI spidey on screen, but it looks like Tom got bigger in all of the set photos

>>213578357
kek based. But seriously, because they want to stick to the comics because he has the web shooters in the comics. And this is why I like the raimi version because all of his powers and abilities are organic.

>>213578487
Why didn't they do this from the beginning in civil war? Are they retarded?

>>213579388
stop my invincible son

>>213579431
he could slap 200% tariff and it still would be cheaper and easier to pretend Glasgow is NYC

>>213579282
>a fluid that self replicates because it's seemingly endless
That's your bullshit fanfiction that came out of your ass. He runs out of webs constantly.
Why do you even bother?

>>213579482
He runs out when the writer feels it's convenient for the plot.

>>213579474
Lol

>>213579422
>We made Peter Parker to be relatable to the average Joe
>....SO WE GAVE HIM GIGASHIT SUPER INTELLIGENCE AND AND SUPER AWESOME SCIENCE BRO POWERS

>>213579471
>Why didn't they do this from the beginning in civil war?
Didn't do what? Web swinging has always been mostly CGI for every movie.

>>213578357
That is the 'joke'. He is Spider Man but he cannot shoot webs. That is the point and macguffin of his powers where he becomes SPIDER (web) through MAN (intelligence creating web shooters). Peter Parker is more than his powers and that is one of the nuances that is very important to keep.

>>213579561
TASM1 did those stunts in 2011.

>>213579610
Turning him into Mr Spider-Tastic over the last sixty years was retarded and the web shooters are the sole reason for the slippery slope.

>>213579635
>turning Spider Man into the most profitable comic book character of all time was retarded

Idk what to tell you, you seem like one of those posters who is dead set on being contrarian and will only post on 4chan because you get blocked and downvoted to oblivion everywhere else. There are no ideas worth sharing here. You are just wasting your own and everyone else's time.

>>213579561
>Web swinging has always been mostly CGI for every movie
Exactly. Why didn't they use the real person to do the web swinging from the beginning was what I was asking

>>213579653
>You're a contrarian if you have logical discrepancies with shit writing.
Okay then faggot eat my ass and kill yourself. No one will ever entertain you or take you seriously if all you do is respond to people like a dejected tumblr queen acting like you're the only sane person on Earth. Fucking sick of faggots with inflated senses of self. You couldn't have a reasonable discussion at gunpoint. I already made a post earlier which you ignored like a coward pussy. If you want uber Midoriya smart quirky fag Spider-Man I don't know what to tell you. That's not how human beings act in real life. It never will be. You simply like Nu-Flanders. I like seasons 1-3 Flanders.

>>213578203
that's Supaidaman

>>213579697
You don't want a sane conversation, you want to play devil's advocate while telling people to kill themselves. You enjoy being confidently wrong. Spider Man has web shooters because they make more sense for the character and are cool and sell more toys. End of. There is nothing you can say because the proof is in the pudding.

>>213579653
Please. No strawman. Mechanical shooter vs bio shooters. That’s the debate. Nothing else.

>>213579383
Pretty sure it's in the first issue.

>>213579738
>strawman

advanced level esl trolling

>>213578178 (OP)
>zendaya: I'M UNSTOPPABLE I'M INVINCIBLE!
>hom tolland: stop my invincible hot wife
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iFUjWbZNpUU

>>213579474
Stop your freedoms

Only James Cameron can save this god fordaken franchise.

>>213579448
Didn't they do that in one of the spiderman animation series?

>>213579733
NTA can confirm you are a faggot preaching about nerd shit pedantically to gish gallop and overwhelm people. You don't care about being honest. You care about defending what gives you stimmies. That anon spake like a spergout, but you speak like a legit trans plebbitor. And, well... Picrel.

>>213578331
nah. organic shooters were dumb

>>213579431
Most of it is just dressing up vehicles that exist there. A lot of those cars were right hand drive and some of those vehicles like the ambulance often are used in multiple film productions

>>213578357
stfu moron. go back into the cellar

>>213578972
stupid medium that's generated billions across multimedia. kys faggot

>>213578487
>Filming at real locations
>Actual stunts

We're so fucking back

>>213580028
Easier to believe guy gets spider powers from the spider bite instead of being a pre-destined supergenius who somehow overlooks relationships. I don't think anyone defending the web shooters can seriously tell me they've given it more than thirty seconds of thought. They make the character far less relatable, which was Lee and Ditko's main goal. It's the whole reason he's a conflicted asshole. Raimi had the right idea.

>>213580028
Nah Raimi was correct in making the webs organic.

>>213578357
Spiders shoot web out of their limbs? Venture Bros made fun of how organic web shooters would really work with their Spider-Man parody character, who shot webs and swung around by his ass. Where would he be storing all that web material in his wrists?

>>213580107
>Adult swim jews steal idea and make it lame and gay
Wow never happened before. There was already an indie film years before that did it better and with actual horror and nuance, instead of some gay contrived joke.

>>213579282
>Spiderman's intellect is on the level of a top tier professor. He's not a super genius like Reed Richards or Tony Stark
He literally is.

>>213580107
>IT WOULD HAVE TO COME OUT OF HIS ASS!
that's stupid and illogical. Peter didn't become a man-spider.

>>213580137
He literally isn't. You can google this

>>213580147
>Man-Spider
One of the coolest things to come out of SatAM

>>213580137
Wrong, Peter is a 4, Tony and Reed are 6 on Marvel's own scale.

>>213580152
>You can google this
To find what? All I see are articles and reddit posts. Unless there's official confirmation somewhere coming straight from Marvel no one should care what your assumption is. The overwhelming majority disagrees with you and is sick of the hi-tek Spidey.

>>213580137
not quite

>>213580191
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Anthony_Stark_(Earth-616)#Attributes
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Reed_Richards_(Earth-616)#Attributes
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Peter_Parker_(Earth-616)#Attributes

The majority is known to be wrong, stupid and secondaries.

>>213580152
I guess I must have dreamt that Peter built a tech company that rivaled Stark's.
Or the bit where Pym couldn't figure out how Peter built trackers that aligned with his spidersense.

>>213580231
>I guess I must have dreamt that Peter built a tech company that rivaled Stark's.
You did, that was Otto. And nothing Slott wrote ever mattered anyway.

>>213580231
Wasn't Otto involved with that?

>>213580137
He's smart but not on the level of Stark, Reed or even Banner

>Organic web-shooters are more logical
>Nuh uh because look at what some random jew said
Ad infinitum

>>213580254
>>213580259
Otto built it, Peter expanded it. His most successful inventions were made by him, not Otto.

>>213580191
>>213580231
I said I'm not googling for you and hopefully you've taken the hint by now after a bunch of other anons have told you you're wrong. You're underestimating just how smart Richards and Stark are. It's conceivable that they could shit out designs for a webbing because they're beyond genius level and masters of multiple disciplines. Peter is an idealized version of the relatable nerdy teenaged boy. So yes he's really smart. He's not that smart. It wouldn't make sense

>>213580269
>>213580281
The point was that he actually is a genious and would easily be able to build web shooters. The fact that he's not in the top 5 smartest people in Marvel does not matter.

>>213578487
Where is this supposed to be? They have American flags and a NYC ambulance but the traffic lights look like UK traffic lights.

>>213580281
>This logically makes less sense than if he were a normal person.
>"Uh well no! You see it makes perfect sense! It says right here in the lore this is how he is!"
That's circular logic, anon.

>>213580281
Correct. Tony built an armor that can basically kill god-like beings and Reed is the one man who is arguably even smarter.
Peter is smart as an irl scientist who happened to come up with kevlar on a string. Iron Man and Stretchy Man are smart to an unrealistic degree. Tony can even replicate the spider-sense in his armor.

>>213580339
I guess Miguel O'Hara in Spider-Verse 2 blows them all out of the water if you want to talk power levels, but nobody gives a shit about that. Once again circular reasoning.

>>213580281
>y-yeah but he's not a super genious because he's not smarter than [literally the two smartest people in the universe]
Just because he's not on Tony's level does not mean he's not a super genious. He build an empire in like 3 years worth billions and had contracts for aerospace, military, and SHIELD, what makes you think he would not be smart enough to be considered one?

>>213580350
We're talking about the fact that Peter was never supposed to become a world renowned prize winning scientist, it's not a part of his story. He's smart but ultimately still limited by both his resources and the fact that there's smarter people in his universe.
Do you really think Peter Parker all by himself could rival Doom for example? He can't.

>>213580339
>I reverse engineered precognition (one that was just established to be of mystical origins)
That one was total bullshit, but that's Civil War for you.

>>213580393
/co/mblr troons like to deflect to literalism and face-value arguments all the time. it's practically their M.O. when you have a logical discrepancy with something fictional that they happen to like. said fictional thing suddenly becomes as axiomatic as quantum foam.

>>213580401
The mystical origins bullshit was worse. Insects do have a form of precognition compared to human reflexes so there was nothing illogical about the spider-bite giving Parker similar abilities.

>>213580329
Its Glasgow. They use the shithole as a stand in for New York constantly. Also as Gotham in Batman.

>>213580425
in English, nerd

>>213580399
That's not what we're talking about, you fucking maximum autist. We're very simply stating the organic shooters make more sense from a real-world context and from the perspective of making up some archetypal martyr for edgy teenagers. Makes absolutely zero sense to turn a character with some spark and a chip on his shoulder into a bashful twink who can barely string together a sentence as his wife cheats on him throughout every lifetime he will ever have, but he is also a supergenius all because someone wrote in that he had some web shooters. The point is it went too far. They should have simplified, like Byrne did with Superman. Raimi is practically the fucking John Byrne of Spider-Man.

>>213580459
Comic nerd say rock not hard because iron rock harder.

>>213580277
Otto as Spider-Man used more gadgets than Peter did. Peter is low tech.

>>213580466
>that's not what we're talking about
>proceeds to talk about exactly that
We're on the same page idiot

>>213580477
because he doesn't need to, octavius is like 30% machine while Peter has superpowers. The time he actually killed Otto was when he build a suit designed to boss rush the sinister six and beat them in a day.

>>213580502
No. Reply to my points directly or do not reply again. Stop wasting my time trying to gish gallop.

>>213580093
Web shooters alone don't make him not relatable. The issues begin when this is expanded into him being a self made Iron Boy Jr. Struggle and relatability are essential to Spider-Man.

>>213579725
https://vocaroo.com/1lQvZwcjHpiQ

>>213580523
But I agreed with you, you stupid fuck.

>>213580551
>Strawman
>Prevarication
None of that was a response to what I said. Ignored.

>>213580583
Thanks for acknowledging, errr, I mean ignoring. You sound smart.

>>213580567
>you stupid fuck
Okay, ESL. Whatever you say topkek. Yeah we're totally on the same page when you're spending every reply having a fucking discussion with your imagination instead of performing the basic task of responding point by point.

>>213580093
Smart people struggle with relationships, that part isn't unrealistic. It's a small miracle people like Bill Gates get into relationships at all.

>>213579474
>stop, my illegitimate son

>>213580606
Jesus you autists will whine and complain even when someone supports what you're saying. Truly beyond help.

>>213578331
Cameron*

Tobey completely enmasculated both Spider Man after showing his big dick organic webs. Proving himself superior once again along with the organic shooters.

>>213578802
The suit isn't really meant to be durable though

>>213580724
>actor is named maguire
>swings around on wires
pure pottery

>>213580028
organic web shooters make more sense, just about any arachnid or insect can crawl up the walls, it's not something unique to spiders.

>>213578649
We are so used to seeing these "movies" being made in front of a green screen with characters just wearing motion tracking suits and not having any props. It's now absurd to see them do traditional film making techniques.

>>213579635
>not the costume itself
>not the signal belt
>not the spider tracers
I think you're retarded. The webshooters are basically just a fancy squirt gun, the fluid is the only stretch and even then it's effectively just glue.

>>213580277
Peter also bankrupted it with his terrible financial and administrative decisions

>>213581022
The costume isn't high tech or unrealistic. He just needs something that allows freedom of movement while also hiding his identity. Superhero costumes actually all make sense in their specific contexts.

>>213581064
I think so too, except for Superman

>>213581078
That's just alien clothing. It's bound to appear unorthodox to a human. So that makes sense too. A more nonsensical aspect is the fact that it's seldom damaged, but that's explained by the fact that his durability extends to things that are close to his skin.

>>213578972
I remember from the 90's Spider-Chad cartoon the webshooters would run out at dramatic moments, I think maybe they also got damaged at times? But the origanic wedding just works better.

>>213581078
Wasn't the original inspiration for Superman's costume the circus strongmen?

>>213581040
He bankrupted it because Otto turned himself into a computer virus and infected everything he made so Peter had to blow it all up. It wasn't because of business decisions, he actually turned out to be pretty business savvy.

>>213581192
Yes, and Superman appears human. But is ultimately an alien, as is his clothing.

>>213578178 (OP)
Mechanical webs have always been stupid. Where does a perpetually broke highschool/college student get the money for producing this super adhesive? Why doesn't he patent it and license it to a chemical company(yes, I've read the issue where he tries and they reject it but really they can't think of any application for a super adhesive? How many police departments would pay for the ultimate non-lethal weapon? Stupid). And without organic webs Spider-Man doesn't really have any powers. Ask anybody "what does Spider-Man do?" and they'll say "he shoots web" but apparently he doesn't actually. And the drama of running out of web would be more natural with organic webs. With mechanical web shooters running out of web fluid is poor planning, it's just like "how much were even carrying dude?", with organic webs if he runs out it's from exhaustion and pushing himself too hard
Organic webs make toy web shooters a better toy. If Spider-Man also has web shooters then the toy means you are Spider-Man just without the fluid he uses, organic webs means the toy emulates his power

>>213581538
>And without organic webs Spider-Man doesn't really have any powers

>>213580147
>that's stupid and illogical

So is having a magical infinite supply of web fluid in your wrists.

>>213580129
>Wow never happened before.

Where did I say that? I was just given AN example that immediately came to mind, I never said they invented the concept. Hell, I’m sure that was probably a legitimate discussion in the Marvel offices back in the 60s.

>>213579422
comics and capeshit will always be retarded, no matter the profit they are making

>>213581538
>And without organic webs Spider-Man doesn't really have any powers
Yeah except sticking to walls, super strength, speed, spider-sense, enhanced sight/smell/hearing, flexibility, equilibrium, durability and a regenerative factor

>>213578331
Organic web shooters were James Camerons idea when he was going to direct his Spider-man movie in the 90s

>>213581602
It's not infinite, it's produced in his body but can run out if he ejects too much of it after which it needs time to form again

>>213578178 (OP)
Is it just me, or did anyone else find it weird they did this hyped costume reveal for Spiderman, but it looked exactly the same as every other Spiderman costume we've had in the cinema.
I thought they were going to take it in a bold new direction or something, but it's just the same.

>>213578487
delicious ass

>>213578178 (OP)
I hate the new movies. They are shit.

>>213581790
haha

>>213580107
>Where would he be storing all that web material in his wrists?
IDK how do the cartridges store it all? The same way the web fluid fits in the cartridges it will fit in his body
How does Marrow produce her bones? Where does Colossus metal skin come from? Superpowers dude
>>213581602
>infinite supply
But that's the point, it isn't infinite, it's a natural way for him to run out. They CONSTANTLY pull the "oh no, I didn't bring enough web fluid" card to add drama to a story and it is lame because it makes him look like a dumbass who doesn't plan properly. With organic webs he just has to know his limits and there's the possibility he could push himself too hard and run out and need to wait to produce more

>>213578331
It wouldn't work in contemporary "low tech" setting of the Raimi Trilogy, but in MCU with alien/nanotech at every corner it's possible. Still ridiculous how everyone can just find some top of the line tech in that universe.

>>213578357
The little man knows all.

>>213578357
It is a mysery.

>>213579461
>ASM1
>Expensive
It looks like it's made out of skinned basketballs.

>>213581831
Fuck off, Alex.

>>213581655
Like the other guy said how's that not just Cockroach Man

>>213582638
Same reason why Batman isn't Pigeonman, the writer thought it was cooler and built the story around it.

>>213579610
I thought they made the web shooters as a compromise because it was illegal for them to show a character shooting organic fluid from their bodies

>>213580082
The film will be shit anyway and then they'll say
>Well, they asked for real locations and real stunts and we have it to then and they still didn't like it. Guess we'll stick with dijeetal effects from now on :^)

>>213578203
no that's Spider-Guy

>>213578357
Okay but shouldn't the website come from his butt then?

>>213583229
this website certainly came out someone's butt

>>213578357
He was bitten by a jumping spider, those don't make webs.

>>213583249
....was it mine?

>>213583229
this website certainly came out of someone's butt

>>213582272
>Alex
Who?

>>213578357
He's as agile and as strong relative to his size as a spider.
But yea without the webs he may as well be bug man, or ant man or something.

>>213583384
this guy

>>213582806
Batman doesnt have bat powers

>>213583750
He has no powers at all.

>>213580254
Slott sucks but his original superior run was spectacular.

>>213583814
Right but spiderman has them supposedly

>>213579750
In the first issue he makes his webs stick with liquid cement.

>>213578178 (OP)
Will not even pirate this garbage. Not watching twink spider-man

Tying Hollandman to Stark was such a retarded decision. Was this really necessary? Why did he get a cameo in Avengers before his own movie first?

>>213584033
You answered your own question. It was their only "fix" as they really wanted him to be in Civil War despite not having a movie in the MCU, they explained it through Stark.
Kinda stupid that Peter fought Thanos in space with a 8 legged nanomachine iron suit before actually becoming the friendly neighborhood spider-man we all know. Power scale is completely inverted.

>>213584033
Sony wanted it to be that way

>>213584033
Spider-Man was an important character in the Civil War comic, that's the entire reason.
Just don't think about the fact that the comic is vastly different from the movie apart from "Tony and Steve have a diagreement" and the cival war part of it is a parking lot fight.

>>213583666
Sound like he's got the correct opinion. The new movies are all ass.

>>213582255
exactly, it looks like a movie magic suit. Meanwhile the stark suit looks like a fucking pajamas

>>213584562
lol smol benis.

>>213584562
Mind boggling how productions that cost hundreds of millions have props on the level of fan films.

>>213580082
I love celebrating the bare minimum

>>213583257
He could've just named himself jumpman then instead of being dishonest with the web shooters

>>213578178 (OP)
>meanwhile, back in 2002 (more than 2 decades ago)
They really need to hire the old designer

>>213578178 (OP)
>Climbing on ceilings and super strength? Yeah of course, that makes sense
>Shooting webs? Oh no, this simply won't do, I'll have to come up with a more reasonable explanation, like this nerdy teenager coming up with a super strong flexible compound that can be shot like a liquid and produced infinitely at home
Bravo, Stan Lee

>>213579610
No it's not a joke, a high schooler developing what would be revolutionary technology in physics? The answer is they didn't think about it, they thought oh spiders shoot webs out of their asses, well we can't just put a cloaca on his wrists. They also probably wanted to give him a handicap like it can run out/be broken, as well as modified.

>>213585051
It's because of the comics code at that time being skittish about fluids coming out from a guy.
So they changed it to non organic material.

>>213578178 (OP)
So aside from being the weakest of three and the slowest, he's now the dumbest?

>>213580107
umm he gets mutant spider powers and lives in the universe with Thor and the devil but let me nitpick the biology

>>213585219
He also has the worst taste in women.

>>213585219
and he's gay

>>213578357
Because he's also a science guy. And there's a history of him changing the webs as needed, like making compressed web-packs to make instant netting to trap someone, or acid laced webbing to dissolve things.
Sometimes they add bullshit about how the spider passed on knowledge of how the chemicals work to Peter and his aptitude for science is why he was able to figure out how to adapt it.

>>213580105
no he wasnt. he was lazy.

>>213586380
>And there's a history of him changing the webs as needed, like making compressed web-packs to make instant netting to trap someone

That shit is actually pretty cool and is the biggest advocate for the web shooters IMO. Makes room for interesting strategies like when Raily defeated Venom using the impact web.

>>213580093
he wasnt pre-destined super genius moron. he wasnt the only hero/villain who came up with their own gadgets. the being relatable part was making him a a teenager in highschool and having normal person problems.

>>213578357
>What the FUCK is the point of him being a fucking SPIDER-man, if he couldn't have naturally the thing spiders are most famous for?
>Webs come out of his ass
Non-comic readers have no rights or opinions on comic book movies.

>>213586430
but brilliant

>>213586564
That'd be amazing though. Imagine the swinging.

>>213586589
save it for the porn parody

>>213586609
Eww

>>213586663
Spiders will eat their webs when they become too damaged to repair to restore the lost proteins used when building them. Makes you wonder what else has liquid proteins that a certain hero ties up and leaves helpless since you love organic webbing so much.

>>213581682
wrong it was my idea when I first saw the spider-man animated show
>boy that looks dumb, he should just do it himself

While I don't dislike web shooters because they've always been part of Spider-Man and that's just what he uses (it'd be like being against Batman's belt), I also think it's extremely dumb to be against the concept of organic webs. It just makes a lot of sense when you think about it. I don't see why web shooters absolutists are so against it.

>>213586906
I like to believe he got the organic ones after he reverted back from this, as a side effect.

>>213587028
Back when crossovers were cool

>>213586380
>Because he's also a science guy
There are too many science guys in the Marvel Universe already. That’s part of why it’s so tough to get Reed Richards to take off, because his schtick is already taken by five other people.

>>213580865
spider-man doesnt have web spinning organs moron. the idead of mechanical web-shooters arent that different from Batman's grapple gun which conveniently shows up when its needed and all the shit in the utility belt.

>>213581631
you still watched and are now participating in a thread about it. so youre also being retarded.

>>213583257
common house spider

>>213587271
>idead
good morning, saar.

>>213578178 (OP)
SPIDER-man is forced to invent webshooters in his garage. What if Superman required rocket boots? Raimi nailed it with the webshooter mutation.

>>213586472
I like this version of BR. too bad they turned him into a villain again

>>213587365
Superman's powers are from the sun's radiation changing his physiology that's natural to kryptonians.
Peter was bitten and suffered the affects of a mutation that didn't alter him too terribly unlike that one-off comic where a bully ate that spider and became a Cronenberg tier body horror villain

>>213584033
Considering the Avenger's Tower is in New York, the meeting between both was inevitable.

>>213580028
moron. Without the organic webs there's NO reason to call the character SPIDERman.

>>213587487
he got bitten by a spider. wears a spider themed costume and calls himself spider-man, IDIOT

>>213579282
>he's not a super genius like Reed Richards or Tony Stark
Not being a comicsfag and having an opinion on this is fine, but pretending to be one and outing yourself so flagrantly should be grounds for having your head caved in by a gang of feral joggers

>>213578178 (OP)
Why are they trying to shill this film with behind the scenes footage? It makes it look like complete shit, the suit looks no better than a vegas street performer's

>>213587428
>the meeting between
That much is fine, but having Stark be Peter's uncle Ben and giving him the suit (nanomachine one at that) was terrible and undermined the character severely. I'm not even a massive capeshitter or care about the character in particular outside of Raimi movies, but this shit inexcusable.

>>213584090
The whole point of Homecoming is that he actively turns away from Avengers shit and decides to be Friendly Neighborhood, and that's before Infinity War

>>213584413
Let's be honest the Civil War movie is a super super super watered down version of the actual comic. To the point that the hero registration isn't even a major plot point, just a mild inconvenience that's brushed away at the next movie and only mentioned a few times afterwards. You could've easily had that movie without Spiderman and got the same result.

>>213579461
>being able to see his eyes behind the eyes
cursed

>>213578178 (OP)
>web shooter
lets the writer create drama whenever they want by taking away the heros weapon (any weapon can be dropped, damaged, destroyed or taken for this effect)
>organic shooter
leans into the theme of the character without the drawbacks associated with a held weapon, an aspect that is very much unique to the character and most heros in general
to have the same effect, it becomes more contrived or requires more explanation why he can't use it at this time for this reason (mental/physical limitations)

>>213587623
>>213587623
>decides to be Friendly Neighborhood
>goes galavanting across Europe in the sequel

>>213587418
>they turned him into a villain again

Oh fuck, they did? I'm a bit of an oldfag so I'm not exactly up to date. What did they do to him?

Organic shooters are whatever since it's the Tobey Universe. But people acting like Spiderman should just have them are retarded.

>>213579282
Peter is a super genius but it's the worst aspect of his character because in every other way he's a huge dumbass that can't get his life together.

>>213580006
>an ESL tries to own someone
>iphone filename

Go back to /r/India, my friend

>>213580768
That's what made it kino

>>213588430
Kinda. Pete always sacrifices his happiness for others. IIRC the Armored Spiderman is Pete who stopped the burglar and if he put himself first a little more, he was still helping people but ended up super rich from selling tech, was happily married and friends with JJJ

The suit is good but Tom Holland makes it look terrible, fridge bod

>>213578540
It looks too untrained, like the difference between a calisthenics dude at the park and an actual gymnast.

>>213587623
He gets his suit taken away by Tony Stark and cries like a baby about it, get outta here.

MCU missed the mark with Tony Stark had carrying Spider-Man. He resonates so well with people because he's a self made hero who got his power by chance. Having Iron Man coddle him that hard ruins a base point of the character.

>>213578357
Spiders don't use their web to swing in the first place

What would Snyder's Spiderman be like?

>>213578972
Marvel gave comicbook spider-man organic webshooters after Peter died and reborn during The Other storyline. Too bad they retconed it after Mephisto's fiasco

>>213589585
Dunno but I can guarantee you will have a sex scene and it will be 90% peter's ass.
Slow mo, and absurd gore while JJJ rants will have fuck or shit in it every 5 seconds. Maybe an MJ or Gwen Stacy topless scene or a Villains meetup in a Strip Club.

>>213589585
bully maguire played completely straight.

>>213587487
He's Jumping Spider Man

>>213578357
Shouldn’t the webs come out his ass?

>>213579476
1000% tariffs it is then

>>213583257
jumping spiders don't make webs to catch prey, but they absolutely make them to make little cocoons where they lay a hundreds of eggs.

>>213578178 (OP)
Organic webshooters tie the spider theme together. Otherwise its just generic bug

>>213590014
Which is even more hilarious because spiders aren't even bugs in the first place. If all the "spider" characteristics he has are bug-like, then he's not much of a spider at all.

>>213578487
p-please watch our m-m-mmmovie…

>>213581134
Ideally it should just be a combination of both. Organic shot web for basic swinging and maybe tying some fucker up. Specialised vaguely spider themed web shooters for gimmicks. The best of both worlds.

>>213578331
No

>>213578972
kill yourself

>>213590463
rude

>>213578203
No that's Man-Spider

>>213578331
This!

>>213578487
>America's most iconic hero is forced to film in Scotland due to Drumpf
Magapedes will defend this

>>213590613
He's filming there because the UK offers massive subventions for it. If anything, Drumpf is trying to tariff the UK so that movies are filmed in the US again.

>>213590497
TOTALLY different.

>>213578357
>>213587487
these guy get it. The web shooters are absolutely retard in terms of the character being associated with spiders and it's also incongruous. If Parker had enough of the intelligence to create such technology,he wouldn't be a poor fuck

>>213589835
not the ass

>>213591567
You are them samefagging however

>>213591567
>One of the major things that spiders are known for (webbing) are retarded in terms of the character being associated with spiders
wot?
Peter is a poor fuck because his uncle dying taught him that with his power there is responsibility to do the right thing with them and he sought to help the people of his city. Him suffering is the burden he carries so that the ordinary people of NY can live safely and without fear. I swear to god /tv/annies talking about comic book characters but failing to even understand the most surface level parts of their character is worse than cancer. This board is full of some of the dumbest fuckers on this site.

>>213592792
being dumb is liking the stupid shooters better
being based is liking the organic webs better
like the other anon wrote in the beginning,is Spidey can't even produce web of his own we might very well call him simple Bugman instead

>>213592792
being dumb is liking the stupid shooters better
being based is liking the organic webs better
like the other anon wrote in the beginning,if Spidey can't even produce web of his own then we might very well call him simply Bugman instead

>>213593799
Batman doesn't have echo location or flight. Just gonna call him LARPerman instead?
Spider man got his powers from a spider bite him not having 1:1 abilities of a spider isn't the point. The web shooters establish Peter's ability to improvise tech and showcase his scientific ability.

>>213582169
Ironman was killed of at the right time

>>213578331
He was. Tech shooters are fucking retarded. Yeah, organic shooters shouldn't be in his wrist but what the fuck makes a spider a spider? It makes webs. The fact it can climb on a wall or ceiling is secondary to the fucking web.

>Spider Man uses web shooters for 99.9% of media he's in including his original first appearance
>People whose only experience with Spiderman was 3 movies feel like they can be an authority on this character
We all mock newfags on 4chan for not lurking and being retards, but there are some people here acting exactly like newfags to Spider man and not even realizing it.
kek just stfu.

>>213579282
In my headcanon the spider was being tested for super soldier serums, and passed it on to Peter.
So in addition to having super strength he also gained greater intellect.

>>213594545
Cope. No one gives a fuck about yoir comics. Raimi dragged Spiderman into public consciousness with is movies, which makes the organic shooters de facto canon.

>>213579437
post-credit tease

>>213595235
lmfao Spider Man was always in the public consciousness. He's Marvel's equivalent to Superman or Batman.

>>213595220
Why would you test supersoldier serum on spiders instead of pigs, which are genetically closer to humans? Now, what if Peter was bitten by a mutant pig? Would he gain the ability to cum for 30 minutes straight?

>>213581538
Because then it would reveal his identity and he'd be linked to spiderman.

Also there are millions of inventors who have made shit and never made a business because they aren't business minded.

>>213595304
How many live action movies he had before Raimi?

>>213595313
That's why the project was shut down.

>>213578331
>they hated him because he spoke the truth

>>213595346
It's not about movies, the 90's show and super friends already pushed him to public knowledge for two generations. The 90's cartoon hard carried Raimi even getting the green light for the movie. Same with X-men.

>>213578357
The point is that Spider-man is an identity he created. Sure he got some powers, but he expanded on it and made his own costume to truly become Spider-Man, which is something shit like niggerverse just doesn't get

Why does this look like a set-up to a porno? Especially with his protruding nipples and his protruding bulge?

>>213578331
Unironically yes. Maguire isn't some super genius like Garfield or Holland, who designs this super tough material that can lift tons. It makes him more down to earth and believable. Also, thousands of species of insect can stick to walls, webs are what actually make him Spiderman.

Also, if he could invent this groundbreaking technology, why the fuck is Spiderman's family still poor? He should be a multimillionaire. Why is Spiderman a fucking lame pussy if he can invent these things? Why is Peter even going through high school? Why doesn't he just drop out and sell these technologies and become a millionaire?

In Raimi Spiderman, he's not this super genius, he's smart, common sense, but not comically a genius. He still goes to school and college and studies chemistry, he wasn't birthed with the knowledge of a thousand chemists.

>>213595452
true. I still find organic web a WAY cooler concept. forgive me for having a preference

>why the pronounced bulge
spider-man is no longer a eunuch

>>213595220
Why would you want a soldier to have super intellect?

You'd want a soldier to not be a complete retard, to have some common sense, but not enough intelligence to critically think for themselves. You want them to obey you mindlessly.

>>213595622
That's why the project was shut down

>>213578178 (OP)
At least they don't have to make him lose his powers like they Raimi did in 2. Instead his webshooters can just run out of ammo.

>>213585116
>what would be revolutionary technology in physics
in the context of Marvel, considering all the other scientific breakthroughs that exist, having a material that's just really sticky but dissolves in an hour isn't that noteworthy. Even in media where spider-man is the only hero, web fluid isn't that impressive. Peter is just a super smart kid.

>>213578178 (OP)
I like the toby spiderman just making it a ability. why not make it cannon? we beef up superheros all the time Peter can move buildings whats real webs?

>>213595647
No you're just a fucking retarded nigger. Never speak again.

>>213579282
I like it for story reasons and during action scenes
>oh shit my web fluid ran out, what now?
Raimi's version was always retarded because of that and he still did it in 2, by making him lose his powers.

>>213595692
Don't poke holes in my headcanon theory, It's flawless, you're only upset because I beat you.

>>213578178 (OP)
Spiderman should have a spinneret coming out his abdomen spiders don't even have wrists

>>213579282
My headcanon is that his first webshooters were extremely basic, as he studied and took lots of inspiration from different spiders, and over the years they got more advanced

>>213588894
boring

>>213595868
Unironically how he's improved his shooters. He's got hundreds of different webbing shots he can make by applying different pressures and how his fingers engage the shooter.

>>213579455
He's also a super genius capable of making a material never before seen.

>>213589920
They also use them when they jump, as a safety line. And for making their nests, got to have safe places to molt.

>>213595917
Then you don't like Spiderman as a character. Read Iron man instead.

>>213587570
you can say nigger here, tourist

>>213595521
It's but a retvrn to tradition of spider-man being one of the most sexually objectified heros(including the women)

>>213596108
it depends on the mood of the mods
several times I was banned for writing this word outside of /b/. I prefer not to now

>>213596108
I've gotten several 3 day bans for it. It's fucking dystopic. This place is night and day different than it was in 2008. It makes me fucking sick.

>>213578487
It's that slightly off thing that is most off-putting

>>213595527
>Maguire isn't some super genius like Garfield
Garfield stole the formula from Oscorp. He is not even elementary school level genius. He had to be reminded how magnets fucking worked. Scientist my ass.

Meanwhile Mcguire was reading and correcting high end science from Osborne and Ock. Was given compliments by Osborne who is both a world class scientist and also a douchebag, so the compliment must mean something.
He is the one who realizes the flaw on Doc Ock machine first.

>>213596346
Shouldn't be able to apply for jannyfagging unless you can prove you've been here since at least 2007. The fact there are probably tranny jannies who are post election fags or post gamergate fags is disgusting.

>>213578331
based. reminder that /tv/ is an organic web board.
mechanicalweblets leave.

>>213581690
>but can run out if he ejects too much of it
Like sperm?

>>213580028
next you'll tell me black goop webbing for Venom was bad and he should've had normal white spidey webs instead

>>213581701
It's just a way to create artificial hype. The justification doesn't really matter, because medias will talk about it anyway and the usual slop eaters will it eat up.

>>213578203
No

>>213589585
it would ruin discussion of any future Spider-Man films because of all the 90 iq pseuds it would attract