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Anonymous No.213588016 >>213589261 >>213591442 >>213591442 >>213591442 >>213591778 >>213592901 >>213593003 >>213594230
Mad Men was a very gnostic show. Bert Cooper was the demiurge and the Sterling Cooper agency was a sort of microcosm of the universe.
There are many clues throughout the show.
In the early seasons, Cooper's office is above and sort of set apart from everyone else. Don and Roger are called up to his office like being summoned into the king's court. They treat Bert with a certain deference and respect, perhaps even a little bit of fear in Don's case, that they rarely show to anyone else. Cooper describes New York City as a "machine". Right off the bat we have this mechanistic imagery of the world as like a big clock, as it were.
Cooper also displays a painting in his office that confuses his employees. A red smudgy void. An abyss of nothingness that they feel is sucking them in. Red was also the color of Marxist socialists, the Luciferian fire that rejects the traditions of old and burns it all away into nothing.
Cooper also admires Japanese culture. Japanese Zen Buddhism, like all eastern religions, is extremely gnostic.
Cooper also embodies the "wise old man" archetype, having foresight in the dispute between Don and Pete in season 1, when Pete discovers that Don stole someone's identity. Bert foresees that this conflict between Don and Pete will ironically be the grounds for an alliance years down the road, which becomes true as Pete helps Don keep his secret later in the show.
In the last season Cooper dies but his spirit is still seen talking to Don on two occasions.
Don at the end of the show joins a new age/Hindu cult and achieves a sort of "gnosis" at the very end where he comes up with some kind of "enlightened" new ad.
Anonymous No.213588481 >>213589626
bump desu
Anonymous No.213589261 >>213590288
>>213588016 (OP)
bumpppp
Anonymous No.213589626 >>213590288 >>213591717
>>213588481
Don't ignore my thread you stupid idiots
Anonymous No.213590288
>>213589626
>>213589261
bump!!
Anonymous No.213591442 >>213591549
>>213588016 (OP)
>>213588016 (OP)
>>213588016 (OP)
respond
Anonymous No.213591549
>>213591442
There's no conversation on this board, you're better off posting in r/madmen
femanon !M6R0eWkIpk No.213591717 >>213592771 >>213593056
>>213589626
I think you are just reading way too much intentional Gnosticism into this show frogfag
Anonymous No.213591778
>>213588016 (OP)
>gnostic
Is this from your word a day calendar?
Anonymous No.213592771
>>213591717
No I'm not. dumb roastie
Anonymous No.213592901
>>213588016 (OP)
>Cooper also embodies the "wise old man" archetype, having foresight in the dispute between Don and Pete in season 1, when Pete discovers that Don stole someone's identity. Bert foresees that this conflict between Don and Pete will ironically be the grounds for an alliance years down the road, which becomes true as Pete helps Don keep his secret later in the show.
oh thats cool af. and very true, adversity between "peers" that are both talented and skilled usually results in partnership rather than the waste of energy from continually batting heads with them.
Anonymous No.213592952
what?
Anonymous No.213593003
>>213588016 (OP)
>Japanese Zen Buddhism, like all eastern religions, is extremely gnostic
then why not obsess over the shitload of buddhist scriptures instead of obsessing over a manuscript some dudes found in a pot
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Anonymous No.213593056 >>213594114
>>213591717
makes total sense since these "admen" were all atheists, and all they provided was more and more effective consumerism for the masses.
it'd make you feel soulless, an empty void. they had to search for meaning in anyway they could. and since they're all cerebral thinkers it fits even better, it wouldnt work for a bunch of lumberjacks because theyre just chilling in the woods exercising, very good primal living, and without being insulting, their iq's probably arent going to be as high compared to these neurotic advertising guys.
Craig T. Nelson No.213593065
Marketing at peak consumerism. God bless the free marketplace
Anonymous No.213594114
>>213593056
yeah
Anonymous No.213594230
>>213588016 (OP)
what the HELL are you talking about?!
Anonymous No.213594266 >>213594575 >>213594959
>Don calls the elevator and a gateway to hell opens up
What did Wienie mean by this
Anonymous No.213594575
>>213594266
>666 on the window
Anonymous No.213594959
>>213594266
It represents how the agency is their "temple" and leaving it is a descent into the profane realm.