Thread 213602080

Isn't it ironic that decades later this documentary actually proved global warming was fake.

>>213602080 (OP)
>proved global warming was fake
No it didn't, what are you talking about?

>>213602080 (OP)
do you remember when it used to regularly snow?? Like how you would have just regular snow flurries every other day between the months of december and february. if you lived in the northeastern US it was a part of life.

But nowadays I can't recall the last time it didn't snow once or twice a year and even then just a few inches. Or snow a massive amount 1 time. Then we're back to summers of 90F averages a day as opposed to it being 70-75 20 years ago It is rather strange.

>>213602133
I think you’re just remembering childhood

>>213602108
Al Gore used sensationalist hyperbole to distort facts and convince people to invest in his giant green energy corporations. After this movie, he and his left wing "environmentally friendly" industries made billions. Funny also how they ignore the fact wind turbines and solar panels cause more damage to the environment. The sea levels haven't given us crazy tsunamis and mountains still have snow on them.

>>213602080 (OP)
The earth is objectively and demonstrably getting hotter. Al Gore and many leftists politicians usually play "absolute worst case scenario" and still further exaggerate. But to say that the earth isn't getting warmer is pure delusion and denial.

>Give extra governmental organisations, multinational corporations and the developed world governments hundreds of billions of your money or the invisible threat will kill everyone
>Also we're putting massive environmental restrictions and cap and trade carbon rules on your developing countries so we can have a constant stream of migrants leaving your shithole for the west, instead of living standards improving there via economic growth
Bold strategy cotton. Lets see how it plays out for everyone

>>213602133
>Hurr have you ever noticed my anecdotal evidence aligns with my political views. I'm very smart.

>they tell me all through high school the world is going to get warmer
>it does

Shifting back over to the environmentalist/income agitation/ww2 revision cycle already ivan?

>>213602235
Yeah its pretty kino

>>213602201
>Funny also how they ignore the fact wind turbines and solar panels cause more damage to the environment.
They don't though

>>213602203
Remember the ice age? The earth naturally changes temperature over time. We'll have another ice age and more global warming over the next thousands of years. It's not new, and it's not man-made.

>>213602204
>Also we're putting massive environmental restrictions and cap and trade carbon rules on your developing countries
No one is doing this, stop scaremongering

>>213602259
>The earth naturally changes temperature over time.
nature isn't magic, it's cause and effect.

>>213602203
but they stopped saying global warming because climate change worked better

>>213602255
Wind turbines destroy natural habitat, and their sounds+vibrations prevent any plants or fauna from settling anywhere nearby. Solar panels cause far more carbon dioxide from their creation than any amount of fossil fuels. The panels only last a few years until you conveniently have to buy new ones from the same green energy company that sells it.

>>213602108
show me the water levels, where the bet is the water levels

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>>213602301
>Wind turbines destroy natural habitat,
everything destroys natural habitat

>>213602280
So what caused the ice age?

>>213602280
THE BIG YELLOW ONE'S THE SUN

>>213602311
>Forest gets torn down so wind turbines can be struck up
>HURR EVERYTHING DESTROYS NATURAL HABITS ANYWAY BRO

Everything is fake anon, Anything that comes from the mouth of a politician is a lie.

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>>213602320
ice

>>213602133
The US had the coldest winter on record just 2 or 3 years ago. Midwest regions were at well below freezing for over a week, even in the afternoon. If you're in the NE, you must remember the apocalyptic blizzard a few years ago. Or maybe you're just shitposting.

What science says:
>We have a model that predicts if the current (i.e. 1960s, 70s and 80s) accelerating trend of greenhouse gas production continues, in twenty years we will no longer be able to avoid a rise in temperature that will cause sea levels to rise over the next century that could put low lying urban areas at risk.
What pop-science truncates this to:
>In 20 years cities will be underwater.
Hope this helps in understanding the confusion.

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>>213602381
>Conveniently ignore that their model didn't include cloud coverage and it's effect on ground temperatures and heat reflection because it's "too complicated"

>>213602259
Yes we are exiting an ice age and not only that but there is a feedback loop at the end of an ice age that marks a rapid warming, still that's ar the scale of centuries and millenia not decades.

>>213602296
Because "climate change" better describes the event. The overall temperature is getting warmer that hasn't changed, but that has domino effect on so many other things that "change" is an overall better description. Science isn't written in stone as new evidence comes out, it is tweaked and overhauled.

>>213602308
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>>213602388
Funny how you never react this way to the daily pro-israel spam.

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>>213602455
>daily pro-israel spam.
At least come up with a good lie you fucking retard.

>>213602494
Hi newfag.

>>213602203
>The earth is objectively and demonstrably getting hotter.
We've objectively and demonstrably been leaving an ice age for centuries or longer.
Our magnetic sphere has objectively been weakening (over 10% from 1900 to 2000 alone).
All man-caused greenhouse contributions since the Industrial Revolution combined make up less than 1% of the total atmosphere, a percent of a single percent.

Whether or not the Earth is getting hotter is irrelevant to the question of "What impact has man had on our planet?" Carbon is also the most difficult scale to tip because the more CO2 we add, the more plants thrive and convert back to O2. It's a very sturdy homeostasis with a very powerful negative feedback loop, and we haven't even been able to dent it by +1% yet.

In comparison, the jackasses loudly talking about this ephemeral climate change we have no means of "fixing," all of them distract from the far more significant _environmental_ changes that man has definitely caused and can definitely fix. For example, mercury pollution in our waters. Our toxic rain. Arsenic in soil waters spread to our rice. These are things that should have attention and be fixed, but everyone responsibility for it would rather talk about CO2 and how much USA saves the planet by moving our factories to China instead.

>>213602345
>>Forest gets torn down so wind turbines can be struck up
Forest gets torn down so houses can be struck up, but you're not against houses

>>213602108
>have theory
>make prediction
>prediction doesn't come true
>your theory must have been wrong
This is grade school level science.

>>213602516
that's not a better lie, ivan. How long until you breakout meds/schizo/tranny/reddit/commie?

>>213602548
No one has the political will to implement actual solutions to these problems, i.e. dismantling consumerism and enacting population control, especially on the third world.

>>213602133
>it doesn't snow as much as it used to

Oh no, that's totally the same as the "we're all going to die by 2019" that I was constantly told growing up.

>>213602576

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All within the past hour. Who do you think you're fooling?

>>213602080 (OP)
Um, no Chuds. We actually came together and significantly reduced our co2 emissions by buying Teslas and by not taking showers, thus slowing the rate of climate change. Even still, we need to import 10,000,000 pajeets a year and pay taxes to pedophiles.

>>213602133
Weather isn't climate, chud.

>>213602614
And the russian admits this is a pol thread.

>>213602631
>comrade you have posted in thread, posting means must be of try fooling
The low iq of russia rears its head. Always projecting.

>>213602133
I miss the big snow storms from the 60s, then I was in a coma and now it never snows

>>213602719
Concession accepted. Thanks for letting everyone know you're jewish.

>>213602080 (OP)
>amoc is collapsing
>permafrost thawing is irreversible
>permafrost thawing is leaking into rivers and making water permanently undrinkable
>depleted aquifers are causing cities to sink
>microplastics found at the bottom of the sea
what’s the point in arguing? it’s too late to save any of it

>>213602434
>Science isn't written in stone as new evidence comes out, it is tweaked and overhauled.
But I was told that the science is settled.

>>213602201
So true, "Drill baby drill"

Based!

>>213602764
I can see why the "nuclear freezing" theory took traction. Holy crap, imagine having an adolescence through nothing then adulthood with the absolute fuckload over twice as dense.

>>213602778
The irony of these threads is that you retards expose that you're actually leftists pretending to be far right. It's totally, uh, *right wing* to be super environmental and be anti Israel and hate work ethic and want universal healthcare.

It's super *right wing* to complain about the US military and successful people and to demand UBI.

>>213602548
>Our magnetic sphere has objectively been weakening (over 10% from 1900 to 2000 alone).

>>213603119
Wow, totally /tv related. This definitely won't stay up 6 hours.

>>213603154
It's a thread about a political documentary with some contentiousness to its substance and the wider idea. You could click on literally any other thread, but talking about the subject matter and related matter of An Inconvenient Truth in a thread about An Inconvenient Truth is actually on topic. In comparison, you're just a raging shitposter.

>>213603206
So yes this is a pol thread.

>>213602564
My favorite logic is "well yeah sure maybe THIS piece of evidence or anecdote actually turned out to be fabricated bullshit, but there's other evidence, which I won't explicitly define, but which shows my belief to be true, and it just makes logical sense to me... so... it's still heckin' true OK???"

HAARP. To get a global government. That is all.

>>213603245
>which I won't explicitly define
you can google it yourself

>>213602347
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>>213602679
so ivanshcizo has changed tactics now?

>>213602133
last winter was snowy and cold

>>213602080 (OP)
This, as well as the other one ,waiting for ghostrider or something, with the education, it would make one notice and ask where these Propaganda/Deep State/Reichsfilme came from and that they were riding the coattails of Michael Moore (who sold out and got the jab)

>>213602080 (OP)
>>213602133
Global warming or MANMADE global warning? The former is impossible to prove and is a moot point, the latter is a religious doctrine, literally, since science has replaced religion.

>>213602201
>he and his left wing
>and his left wing

>>213602308
Uhmmm, and what is wrong with that? Is the usa at war with Russia?

>>213604444
Thanks Ivan.

>>213602381
>What science says:
>>We have a model

Anon, have you heard of Neil Ferguson?

>>213602434
>Because "climate change" better describes the event.
>describes
>science improved bro
>science always improves
>so you have to constantly believe it NOW; the past is WRONG, the future is a fairy-tale OR it is an extension of now
>it's just a coincidence that this is the ideal condition that all power, in all of history, aims to cultivate

>>213602203
Then why are the ice sheets - the things that literally define an ice age - getting bigger, not smaller?

>>213602133
I remember when there weren't national weather related emergencies on the news multiple times every year.

>>213606077
There aren't now either. Hurricanes have actually been way down. Same with tornadoes & floods. There is a drought going on though.

>>213606115
The number and intensity of tornadoes doesn't seem to follow a predictable cycle. Any given year can have only a few or many. We'll go years between EF5 storms. It's really fascinating

>>213606168
*relatively few

It's funny how the solution to global warming is always the increased taxation of working and middle class people in western 1st world nations

>>213602133
Used to be a lot less massive wildfires

>>213606200
That isn't the solution to climate change and no one is saying so except people who don't believe in it to begin with and are probably paid to discredit the idea. Solution to climate change would be complete restructuring of global society and energy production. Which is why it won't happen and we'll just have to endure whatever come of it.

>>213606203
Cos they stopped prevention measures, like logging and controlled burning

>>213606277
But they have increased all over the world. Every country stopped doing these things for no good reason and haven't resumed doing so despite seeing negative effects, that's what you think?

>>213606384
They stopped doing those things because of "environmentalists", who now complain the forests burn on their own. Nature isn't some park. You either manage it or it goes out of control and does its own thing.

>>213602080 (OP)
God, migatards are the dumbest people on the planet

>>213602296
>but they stopped saying global warming because climate change worked better
'Climate change' was literally invented by republican politicians in the Bush admin because it sounds less alarming than global warming, my dear mentally challenged friend.

The irony is, actual scientists then adopted the term because it better fits what is happening on the small scale. It's 'only' getting hotter globally. But if you look at individual regions, some get hotter, others colder etc.

>>213602303
>"The water levels will rise by several meters over the next 500 years."
>anon thinks he should be able to see noticeable change within his lifetime

>>213606429
Environmentalists have this much power? Enough to cause an increase in wildfires all over the world, and no government will tell them no or walk back these bad policies? They accomplish this just by protesting and being annoying?

>>213602080 (OP)
genuinely batshit insane that they put this on in schools around the world. I don't even live in the same hemisphere as al gore and I was still forced to watch this shit in grade 9 history and having my teacher go "yeah sorry little buddy you are actually going to melt into a pile of goo by 2020 : ("
just wondering if green energy really was perfect and renewable is it really worth instilling a fear of death into children? if I was a father back then and you showed this to my kid and he comes up to me asking me about turning into goo because of this faggy movie I'd be pissed as hell dude.

>>213606482
nigga they said there would be multiple cities underwater by now you retarded faggot

>>213606482
>new york will be flooded in 9 years

>>213602806
Hope dies last. We can't do anything about it by now, so people are grasping at straws and hope it might all just he a bad dream or something.
And if they can't have that, at least they wanna die with a clean conscience 'knowing' it wasn't THEM who's responsible.
Hence the usual "B-But China!!" "B-But luxury yachts!!" arguments*.
*(Which of course are true, but if you beat someone to death in a group, you're not innocent just because someone else hit harder than you.)

>>213606200
And bringing in more shitskins so they can raise their living standarts and pollute more

>>213606200
>It's funny how the solution to global warming is always the increased taxation of working and middle class people in western 1st world nations
It's funny how, if climate change is a hoax, this always means that we don't need to change our lifestyles in anyway whatsoever and oil companies can keep racking up billions. How convenient!

>>213602133
I live in the Midwest. Last winter it snowed nonstop and we had 2 weeks where the average temperature was -10 and we were warned to not go outside. City people are clueless.

>>213606274
>t. paid shill

I genuinely hope the worst predictions of climate change come true, and this kiked world dies.

>>213606430
A nice consolation is that all those climate denying retards are going to be the ones most affected. You can look forward to their impotent seething once they realize they dun goofed

>>213606557
Who said that?
>>213606560
Who said that?

>>213602201
[citation needed]

>>213602080 (OP)
Global warming is the biggest scam ever. That piece of shit nigger faggot Al Gore made a shitload off of fear mongering back then. The subhumans who believe global warming is actually real need to be executed.

>>213606491
>political activists are capable of causing political change
Yes. That's what they do.

How come denialists are always sub-80-IQ blue collar proles, politicians reliant on the votes of sub-80-IQ blue collar proles, or Americans?
What does this say about the validity of their claims?

>>213606820
why is it that your opinions align 1:1 with most CEOs and billionaires? you might not like it but you have more in common with cletus than barack obama, fag.

>>213606841
>why is it that your opinions align 1:1 with most CEOs and billionaires?
Oh, that one is pretty easy to answer.
You don't become a billionaire with an IQ below 80.

>>213606760
watch the movie you stupid cunt

>>213602301
>>213602255
Not only that, but wind turbines use materials imported from china, (big carbon foot print) are prone to breaking down (a big problem when they're in ocean, as this causes oil leaks that massively damage and impact the surrounding environment and wildlife) and they only last for twenty years before they need to be buried, as they contain non biodegradable, dangerous materials. NOT ONLY THAT, but they're also massively inefficient, requiring immense winds to produce enough energy, with no current way to store that energy.

So why would they be used at all, fag? Because, in the UK at least, like Al Gore, there are high up members of parliament (especially Ed Milliband) that are heavily financially invested in the company that makes them.

>>213606889
So some politician exaggerated for political clout and this means the whole thing is fake?
Do you also deny the existence of lions because some faggot claimed they can ride on a unicycle?

>>213602080 (OP)
Who is better at predicting Armageddon?

A. Climate change communists?
OR
B. Jehovahs witnesses?

>>213606865
I thought you might take offense at that comment but it seems like they're your role models.

>>213606899
You're right, we need more coal plants.

>>213606978
We need nuclear energy and we need to dump the waste on top of you and your ilk.

>>213606963
People with an IQ over 80?
Well, I wouldn't call them role models, but it is definitely something you should strive for, if your genetics permit it.

>>213606997
>Well, I wouldn't call them role models, but it is definitely something you should strive for, if your genetics permit it.

>To solve climate change we need to lower your standard of living
Why can't libs figure out how unpalatable this shit is to people? Fossil fuels are a necessary evil until the technology for renewables is better (ie actually green) or we get our heads out of our asses and get into nuclear power.

>>213606959
Neither because both are apocalyptic retards who think the world will end in 20 years and have fake predicted the world’s end for the last century or so

>>213607033
>To solve climate change we need to lower your standard of living
Wow, you finally got it. Congratulations.
To solve obesity we need to stop eating junk food.
To solve lung cancer we need to stop smoking.
To solve car fatalities we need to stop speeding.
To solve climate change we need to stop living above our ecological means.

>>213607007
I always wondered, how much does a job at your local gas station pay?
I'm interested in the lives of the little man.

>>213607422
reddit is down the hall and to the left

>>213606384
>>213606429
pretty sure SEA monkery cuntries like mine kept burning jungles anyway. esp Indong with its bigPalmOil industri.

>>213602388
did they buy ads, grapeape? that is important.

>>213602944
>It's super *right wing* to complain about the US military
Being zogbot cannon fodder isn't le based.

>>213607587
>muh sekkrit club ;_;

>>213607422
I agree, we should lower living stsndards for leftists.

>>213607948
Being zigbot meat cube definitely is though, amirite?

Climate change niggers are the biggest faggots ever. It's a way for middle class/rich people to feel righteous without having to realy do anything.

>>213602203
>The earth is objectively and demonstrably getting hotter
No it isn't. Hot spots and cold spots are just shifting as they have done forever on this planet. Some spots are getting hotter, some spots are getting colder.

This is why some places have gotten snow for the first time ever.

It's demonstratably not climate change, it is climate cycles. It is nature.

>>213602080 (OP)
>fake
Yup

>>213608055
No? What point are to trying to prove?

>>213603230
About reddit documetary.
>WAAAAH in 2012 LA and NY will be underwater, we MUST turn off our nuclear power plants snd start buying chinese windmills.