Thread 213616279

Same thing happened in Barbarian. I was hooked in initially then got so fucking bored I kept skipping forward and forward so it would end faster. He also took the nonlinear different POV gimmick of Barbarian but dialled it up to 11. Wasn't terrible but I thought I was going in for something really special and more interesting based on the acclaim it had.

stick with reels and tik tok

>>213616279 (OP)
>I thought I was going in for something really special and more interesting based on the acclaim it had
Are you retarded? First day on earth?

>>213616294
I don't have tiktok and deactivated my insta. The issue is that the movies loses all sense of eerieness the more they tell you what's going on. The incest monster from Barbarian and Gladys killed the suspense the movies had going for a while

>narrator states they are relating events that happened in their past
>claims a bunch of kids vanished "forever"
>they actually all survive and are found at the end

it's just a shit overhyped film for idiots.

The zoomer crowds have been told it's a comedy and not a horror movie with comedic scenes. So the crowds have been laughing at the principals dialogue when he first shows up cause they think he's the token funny asian. They think gardner getting fucked by the cop is somehow funny and the soup feeding scene funny.

>>213616279 (OP)
>Wasn't terrible
yeah it was

>>213616279 (OP)
It's the greatest horror comedy since Evil Dead 2.

>>213616368
>claims a bunch of kids vanished "forever"
i knew something was off about the ending

>>213616279 (OP)
The police officer and the druggie part was pure filler and didn't do anything for the plot

>>213616279 (OP)
>It's not scary
>It's not funny
>It's not interesting
>It's not that mysterious

What did this movie wanted to be?

Absolutely terrible yeah

What did we think of the themes? I didn't view it so much about school shootings are more so how old people rob the young of their youth and innocence and how people are quick to turn to scapegoating and conspiracy theories while ignoring the real issue entirely, all of which occurs in a school shooting so i suppose the parallel is there.

I find It highly unbelievable that the boys path couldnt be traced to the House, given they literally run crossing the middle of the road, no one in the fucking neighborhood had cameras?

>>213616673
i agree that there were a couple POV changes too many but it was entertaining atleast. the cop was the biggest piece of shit aside from the witch

>>213616872
like most horror films, it requires a degree of suspension of disbelief. but yes, a month going by and zero progress made on the investigation is silly, also NO one called the cops when the prinicipal was running miles through town with THAT face? but then again these movies want you to focus on just the main characters, or else the plot would have been solved much sooner.

So the Witch only needs an ítem of you, burning and spitting on It and ring the Bell to possess you? What a fucking retarded plan she had holy shit she could fucking run the world

>>213616872
the cop was more concerned with cheating on his wife and chasing down a random cracky. and his boss even helps him cover it up. he also gets accidentally poked with needles twice and has sex after getting poked with needles the first time. this is all trying to tell you the police force fucking sucks.

>>213616872
stop trying to the poorly-written slop.

Sorry im retarded how did she chose who to attack WITH?

>>213616368
>>213616661
Eh. Fargo says it's based on a true story.

>>213616851
>What did we think of the themes?

it had the illusion of themes to create the illusion of depth.

maybe at some point it was more about school shootings but the writer-director clearly dropped that hot potato and wrote a generic ending long before they started filming it.

>>213616373
>and not a horror movie with comedic scenes
its not a horror movie thoughbeit
its a mystery thriller with horror and comedy elements

>>213616673
>druggie part was pure filler
druggie part was entertaining tho

>>213616851
None of the themes are that deep. Building a drug tolerance. Gladys thinks she's fine with the two parents then has to change things up and get an entire classroom

>>213617094
Fargo does that to established the fact that we're watching a sombre upsetting crime story because otherwise it would be a movie that opens with Steve and William being whacky in a diner and audience would think it was a caper comedy.

the narration at the start of this is a straight contradiction. no one telling a story about a solved kidnapping would open by acting like the victim's story was never told because that completely changes the KIND of story. also the kids set on the witch at the end solely because the writer decided the audience would want it. its just a series of dumb ideas from hollywood's latest pet overhyped horror writer/director.

>>213617188
And had nothing to do with the plot in the end, that's the sad part
The movie is so disjointed and dumb holy shit the fuck is with this media

>>213616279 (OP)
>I kept skipping forward

ZOOM ZOOM

>>213616368
Well they are found in a catatonic state and only some of them are never able to speak again so in a sense who they were before "vanished"

>>213617302
it did though it led to the fight in the house and made garners character enter the house in the first place, she trusted the copper and when he waved for her, so she went in

>>213617571
Wow I really needed to see 20 fucking minutes of nothing, a meandering nothing, about nobodies to the main plot doing nothing of interest to lead to open a door that was going to be opened anyways jesus fuck this movie was boring as shit
>Floating AR
What the fuck so dumb and pretentious

>>213617749
yes i did need to see it because the junkie part was the most fun

>>213617467
That's a cope out and you know it

>>213617779
>Movie sucks and the worst part is the best part

>>213617779
>The least connected part of the plot is the the best and that makes it ok because you see
Some cope right there
But I forgot that I saw this movie anyways

>>213617867
the movie didnt suck. not everything needs to be super connected and lead to a grand epic finale where all the characters come together to save the day like in some marvel sloppa. he found the kids and got hexd at the house so it was nice seeing.

>>213618182
It was boring and stupid and you're a stupid boring ass nigga

It's a prime example of when you turn off your brain the movie is super enjoyable, compared to other movies where turning off your brain doesn't help you enjoy the movie either.

This movie has more hole than Swiss cheese, but when ignored it's fun.

>>213616279 (OP)
ok so why is it called weapons? do the kids make weapons in a sweatshop?

>>213618284
It's all referencing mass shootings without explicitly saying so to keep the conservatives happy.

>>213618233
stick to m3gan

>>213618284
The movie is half an allegory for mass shootings with the empty classroom, bullied kid, candle light vigil mermorial, and the literal picture of an m4 with the kill count. Alex’s 2 parents, 17 kids on the side.
And half a movie about a random which that turns people into weapons and like also steals life energy from like a parasite.
The movie does not do a good enough job connecting the two as weapons.

>>213618450
>The movie is half an allegory for mass shootings with the empty classroom, bullied kid, candle light vigil mermorial,
Burger analogy

>>213617300
I haven't actually seen Weapons, so I from what you're describing it would depend, to me, on whether it's going for a very down to earth or more of a fairy-tale, fantasy or dream-like tone.

>>213618511
It’s made by an American liberal.
Do people think the random vision of an assault rifle intercut with empty classrooms was for no reason? The movie completely dropped being subtle.
Which i don’t even care if thats what he wanted the movie to be about, i just wish the witches weapon magic actually work like essentially a gun or something to actually connect them

>>213616279 (OP)
if you skipped any part of a movie then your opinion about it is worthless

>>213618450
and don't forget the principal bringing up calling cps.

7 hot dogs?

>>213616294
It's funny cause the constant cutting is definitely cause of audiences who are tuned to tik tok. Kek. Movie was shit.

>they're being turned into weapons
>no actually they're just used as a life source for the witch to get her health back
I feel like they didn't actually know where they were going with this.

>>213619595
>Even when they actually get turned into weapons, they are pretty shitty at it

If the movie is saying weapons are bad because of school shootings or whstever
What were they thinking by having the day saved by a handgun?

>>213616279 (OP)
>Watching shitty camrip
>Can't sit through the movie and skips over it
>Still thinks his opinion has value

>>213616325
The Empty Man has the originality, aesthetic dread, conspiratorial plunge, and actual character depth that Weapons loudly postured to have. Weapons is marketed as a dark epic modern mystery thriller when it has the clothes line simplicity of those spooky made for TV movies in the 70s and 80s, but shuffling its timeline to invite pretentious Pulp Fiction Magnolia "90s auteur" comparisons. The collective expectation of what it could and should be kinda ruins it.

>protagonists save themselves by using guns
>DUROPPPP MOVIE IS ANTI GUN DEY WANNA TAKE ME GUNZ AAWAY SCHOOL SHOOTINGS ARE GOOD O ALGO

>>213619494
There are hardly any cuts in most scenes. The movie starts with a series of long takes.

>>213618450
>>213619595
>And half a movie about a random which that turns people into weapons and like also steals life energy from like a parasite.
>I feel like they didn't actually know where they were going with this.
the "witch" who puts on a wig and paints her face white while manipulating the main kid with "magic", meanwhile she's dying and the main kid saves the day by convincing his fellow kids to literally tear her apart limb by limb?
yep, soooo random! definitely weird that half the movie was elaborately thought out and then the other half is just RANDOM!

>>213619877
>The Empty Man
so boring

>>213616851
The themes are the same "we live in a society" algos as Halloween Kills and Halloween Ends but politely turned down low

>>213619430
Kek I thought of this immediately when the tray came out

>>213616947
that many kids missing would be 247 news cross country and trending on social media. every neet detective would theorize it's that kid, and people would show up to do videos outside the parents' house. look at the idaho 4 sorority murders before it was solved. town was swarmed.

Really fun movie desu. I hope the Resident Evil movie is at least entertaining.

>>213620146
>IF IT WAS HECKIN REAL LIFE THEN...
its a horror movie though not real life

>>213618511
cregger cites pearl jam's "jeremy" video as one inspiration

>>213620236
>>213618563
>>213618450
It is american burgercore holy shit this is so bad

>>213618560
its a bait and switch film. market a higher iq film than you can deliver and fill the remainder of the running time with slop. very shymalan in feel.

>>213616279 (OP)
I really didn't like it. The opening voice over giving exposition was cringe, the weird POV repetition thing was really tedious (especially the cop's one), there was tons of generic and random jumpscare moments that made little sense, it was really predictable and full of tropes so there were no surprises through most of it, the casual confirmation of the aunt being a witch about halfway through ruined any of the mystery or tension of what happened to the kids, the focus on the boring lives of boring characters wasted so much time, the dad's weird dream sequence was pointless, and then it all immediately turned on its head and became a comedy once the dad and the teacher got into the kid's house.

I've seen people praising this as some sort of creative masterpiece, but it's one step away from being a parody. It's like someone took Prisoners, Longlegs, Cobweb, and Pulp Fiction, put it all in a blender, and then poured the remains into a mold of the most paint-by-numbers Jordan Peele film.

>>213616368
>narrator states lots of people die in weird ways
>4 people die in mundane ways
>1 person dies in a pretty weird way

>>213621258
I'm genuinely baffled as to how and why the script supposedly set Hollywood on fire.

>>213619987
Not him, but it seems like you've been blinded by the word "random". He clearly said "a random witch", not "half the film is random".

>>213616368
Thanks for the spoiler tag, you smelly faggot.

>>213616279 (OP)
Plot advances, then stops. Plot goes backwards to some else’s pov, retreads shit you’ve already seen dripfeeding information until the plot advances, then stops.
This repeats for 2 hours

>>213621656
Mad, right? There was definitely potential, but it felt like the first draft of a screenplay that you don't even show to anybody. And then it was badly directed as well.

Just a random example that I can't get out of my head, there's that scene where Josh Brolin confronts Beaknose Noodlehair at the garage, and there's a bit of a disagreement, then it's suddenly cut off with zombie Wong running up and tackling her. That scene alone would've been ten times better if they'd just fixed the camera over her shoulder, squarely on Brolin, and while they have their back and forth, Wong is visible in the far distance running towards them, so far that you wouldn't even notice him to start with because you're fixed on Brolin's underlying rage, desperation, and frustration as he confronts a woman he believes has taken his son. As Wong's getting closer, have a bright-coloured car drive passed in the background so the audience's attention is slightly pulled that way, and then they naturally notice him closing in rapidly.

Instead, we got constant camera cuts between the two characters, then the woman looking over his shoulder and remarking at Wong running at them, then a cut to him running across the car park at them, it was just so empty.

>>213621788
To add to that, it dripfeeds a lot of irrelevant information, and then chucks a whole fucking bucket of info on you halfway through to remove the mystery entirely.

>>213616368
In the original screenplay; the movie ends on the vacant stare of Josh Brolin's son's face without narration. Apparently people complained in test screenings that the movie "couldn't just end like that" and so Zach Cregger added that extra narration about how some of the kids had started speaking again, etc. I do agree that the narration was bullshit in general though since at the beginning the little girl is telling the story from the perspective of two-years later and explicitly states that "they NEVER came back" (as in they never came home, or were never found) even though they only all disapeared for about a month.

>>213621656
Zach Cregger is friends with Jordan Peele, who likely hyped up the script before Zach gave it to the studios to read. Apparently the CEO of Warner Bros called Zach personally about buying the rights only 90-minutes after Zach had uploaded the script for the studios to read.

>>213616279 (OP)
You have ADHD.

>>213616368
but the kids didn't really come back. they are traumatized forever, forever affected. they didn't really "come back", just like Alex's parents.
>>213616851
It's all about Cregger trying to process losing his friend
>Weapons is inspired by real events in the life of director Zach Cregger; specifically, how he responded to the loss of his best friend, Trevor Moore.
>“I had a tragedy in my life that was really, really tough. Someone very, very, very close to me died suddenly and, honestly, I was so grief-stricken that I just started writing Weapons, not out of any ambition, but just as a way to reckon with my own emotions,” the filmmaker explained
https://www.dexerto.com/tv-movies/weapons-true-story-explained-3236456/

>>213622538
>but the kids didn't really come back. they are traumatized forever, forever affected. they didn't really "come back", just like Alex's parents.
There was major inconsistencies with this whole thing. The kids and Alex's parents don't get turned back to normal after they've been hypnotised, but Josh Brolin does. And when Alex snaps the twig and makes the kids hunt down the witch, the kids all run like they've been activated by salt (screaming and arms forward), instead of the way everyone did usually when they ran with their arms out.

It felt more like Zach didn't bother to think it through.

>>213622907
>It felt more like Zach didn't bother to think it through.
More like you need things spelled out for you because you cannot EXTRAPOLATE.
See:
>The kids and Alex's parents don't get turned back to normal after they've been hypnotised, but Josh Brolin does.
The kids have had many more rituals done on them, in particular having their life force drained over the course of over a month. There's no reason you'd expect them to have the same outcomes.

>>213622907
>It felt more like Zach didn't bother to think it through.
yeah the movie overall felt sort of 'dreamy' to me. It sounds like he wasn't in his right mind when he wrote the script.

It's literally just Rashomon but horror.

>>213616279 (OP)
Sounds about right. Not a single shot in the trailer inspired an emotion in me. I’ll probably see it tomorrow since I have A List.

>>213623067
>le obscure 50s film
not watching it. glad they made a new version.

>>213621781
lmao cry about it
why did you got into a thread about a movie you havent seen LOL

>>213622054
The link I had to the screenplay is dead but IIRC she used Valentine's cards instead of nametags to bewitch the kids in that, which made more sense too.

>>213623049
Which explains why he has no explanation for the giant rifle over the house in the dream, he literally says he just put it in there.

>>213623369
>movie is called weapons
>people affected by the spell can be turned into living weapons
>brolin's character literally calls them weaponized
>sees a weapon in his dream
gee yeah what could it mean?

>>213616279 (OP)
This movie is a lot like Barbarian, in that it has an amazing first act, where a really intriguing mystery is set up, but then the rest of the film is just a mess. The final act of Barbarian felt like an actual comedy.
It's silly at times, like the actual comedy shots of the children chasing after the witch while she's hobbling and screaming, like a real Millennial Marvel type humour where any real tension or drama has to be instantly undermined with a "uhh, so that just happened" type of joke.
I think the only reason the film is split into different chapters from the different main characters perspectives is to just drag out that first act and keep the mystery building up and, otherwise the film would have been like 40 minutes long.

>>213616851
>What did we think of the themes? I didn't view it so much about school shootings are more so how old people rob the young of their youth and innocence and how people are quick to turn to scapegoating and conspiracy theories while ignoring the real issue entirely, all of which occurs in a school shooting so i suppose the parallel is there.
Lol why does every horror movie like Sinners or this have to be spun as representing this and that vs. simply having fun with a scary and fantastical premise? Fucking hell. This is another form of brainrot.

>>213622162
>peele helping out a white man
genuinely surprised by this

>>213621846
Solid post, I agree entirely

>>213623744
There's nothing wrong with themes, but I agree, subtext is often pretentious and pointless, especially when it doesn't actually add anything to the film.

>>213621258
Yeah I think the first act was the best part of the movie but the narration went on for way too long and was almost completely unnecessary.

>>213623627
>This movie is a lot like Barbarian, in that it has an amazing first act
The second the incest monster showed up to kill Skarsgard so violently with the music blasting like that my interest also died, and the sudden flashback to the 50's or whenever wasn't that interesting either because you can quickly guess where it's going by way of an explanation for what we saw a moment ago

>>213624057
He uses horror jump scare music a lot too. The shot of Gladys staring vacantly at Alex with no music was more effective than Silver Surfer seeing the parents sitting quietly insight with jump scare music

Really activates the almonds

>>213623369
>mfw the movie doesnt have an explanation and answer for every little tiny thing even when its only onscreen for 3 seconds

>>213624085
>>213623627
hehe you guys are so smart for figuring out the horror movie plot 60 minutes into the flick

>>213622054
oh my fucking god are you serious? God damn I hate normalfags so much

Well i learned from this thread that I'm not the only one who thought the first act of Barbarian was amazing only to walk away disappointed by the end

>>213616373
Gardner getting fucked by the cop is a little bit funny, the jump from hugging to thrusting during his POV was comical

>>213625419
I hope Resident Evil is good.
Please. PLEASE just one good Resident Evil movie.

>>213622054
>they NEVER came back
That would work in the context of the original ending. As in, they were all mentally gone, empty husks, or a "town shame" situation where they were all institutionalized or put into some sort of group home and news of their recovery never spread.

>>213625596
It's not that I couldn't figure out the plot, it's that the tone of the film shifted completely.

>>213616279 (OP)
yep its very boring and underwhelming, non-story stretched for forever

drama queen

>>213616279 (OP)
one thing i noticed is the people who like this movie are literally wordcels.
they enjoy the conversations between the characters more than the actual horror/comedy aspects.
for me the best and hardest hitting(pun intended) part of the movie was when the cop pricks his finger on a needle and immediately donkey punches the junkie in the head. only part of the movie that felt visceral and like it came from a real place.
rest of it was trash.

>>213619745
this is how modern movies are meant to be watched.
no one is going to the theater and patiently sitting through the movie enraptured. literally everyone is on their phone or shoving corn syrup in their face even in the theater nowadays and if you crawled out of your house to goto the kinoplex you'd know this.

>they NEVER came back
>erm actually they all do come back at the end though?
"Film" discussion board btw.

>>213629691
they didn't come back tho, it's shown that the parents don't recover from possession and the kids have been under possession for almost as long.
only josh brolin comes back and that's coz he's only weaponised for a couple of minutes and even then you can see he's not fully lucid.

>>213629735
>>213629691
what can you expect from this place?

>Donna's big fat bouncing tits belong to Paul Scheer IRL

I kneel

>>213621846
>>213623924
>Samefag with wrong opinion about wanting a cliche shot

>>213627885
>just one good Resident Evil movie
the second one was unironically kino

The funniest thing about this movie is that you absolutely 100% know why Jordan Peele wanted the script.
He would've made it
>white witch
>all the weaponized students would've been black kids
You just know that's how he would've interpreted the script.

>>213616851
This movie was about one thing, trying to understand Trevor's death.

Trevor fell off a balcony while he was drinking. The main character is an alcoholic. Does it have anything to do with the movie? no. At the end of the day all the tragedy (kids running to a random direction to their demise) is from some crazy witch.

It's simply him saying "shit happens, you can blame whatever you want, but shit happens". It's not that deep, it doesn't resonate with me, but that's the point

>>213616851
I felt a theme of child labour/abuse. Maybe mental illness as a physical being that is spread to others. There really isn't enough information on why she did what she did to all those people for me to grab anything from it

>>213621846
Definitely would have been creepier if a pure horror film was intended, but I think this film is more of a dark comedy.

>>213616279 (OP)
i enjoyed it more than i thought i would

>>213618182
The movie definitely sucked.

>>213622054
that makes sense i felt the end was a very empty visual because of the narration, i'm hyper critical of endings tho

It was watchable, which is saying a lot these days. gf and i gave it 6/10. It's funny seeing a movie that's so obviously an allegory for tranny kid mania get gobbled up by the protect trans kids crowd.

>>213629645
>when the cop pricks his finger on a needle and immediately donkey punches the junkie in the head
I was the only one that laughed out loud at that scene in the theater, but it's because right before that the cop is asking the typical "you don't have anything that's gonna poke me" spiel to the druggie.
And I was asking myself "why do cops always do that phony poke bs? It's obviously some sort of setup to get you to admit what you have in your pockets. What's this moronic poke-phobia that cops pretend to have?"
And then right then he got pricked by a fucking dirty ass syringe and proved me wrong and I reflexively cracked up out loud.

>>213622162
yeah it's michael de luca who also green lit boogie nights, even if you don't like this movie this dude has had balls at warner brothers the two biggest movies of the year so far being this and sinners is modern day a huge risk. i hope they make a ton of money so good movies with these budgets can get made again

Movie was competently made, acting was good, everything was good but I couldn't get into the premise.

I just don't care for horror, I'm not even remotely superstitious so everything came off silly and boring to me.

Hopefully he makes a real movie instead of horror slop

>>213633935
>a movie that's so obviously an allegory for tranny kid mania
Holy shit rent free
This is the dumbest fucking take in this thread

Movie WAS mid though

Honestly one of the best films I've seen in years. If you don't like it you're either trying too hard to be a contrarian or just too stupid.

>>213634014
cope lil nigga it's clear as day

>>213634014
Youre dumb

>different POVs constantly recontexualise previous events in clever and mostly subtle ways (except maybe the paint)
>blends horror and comedy better than any film since Return of the Living Dead
>interesting, flawed characters
>excellent villain
>brilliantly shot and edited action scenes
>wholly satisying conclusion
Of course delusional retarded terminally online Americans can only see trannies and school shooting in every nook and cranny of every moment of media they consume, which they only do to post online about how it does or does not align with their very unique™ and totally not brainwashed opinions.

>>213634241
>reee stop noticing
lol

>>213622162
Wrong. Jordan Peele just fired half his staff for NOT securing this to be HIS film. He lost the bidding war and threw a fit.

just got back from seeing it and i swear the music sounded like something from ocarina of time, was a part with the kid walking through his house after his aunt showed up

>>213616279 (OP)
I had the same reaction. The movie doesnt justify the gimmick at all. Based on the reviews and how the structure was playing out I thought it was building a complex story that was connecting these specific characters into a thematic whole that was going to wow me at the end. Instead it just ends, and it turns out the whole structure gimmick and all the character work was just to make the movie less boring. It succeeded in that I guess, but diminished the whole movie for it. I had no choice but to leave the theater disappointed.
I'm sure theres some deep social commentary about weaponizing grief or children or some shit, and some faggot is going to write a video essay about why its genius, but it wont change the fact that its actually just a script that doesnt deliver.
It reminded me very much of Jordan Peele's Nope, which also had a "weird" structure involving a monkey on an old TV show mixed with the main plot, and it turns out to just be a gimmick framework that loosely applies to the main plot.
Anyway, Weapons is a 7/10

I don't like that it's revealed to be voodoo so early on and then it just meanders for an hour and a half while you wait for the characters to figure it out.
>>213622538
I don't think it's that they're traumatized, it's that they're still under Alex's spell.

>>213630248
>retard with no taste incorrectly mistakes 2 people for 1

>>213633773
It's very possible it was supposed to be a dark comedy, but he was forced to make it more of a horror/thriller to satisfy some bigwigs, but it would also mean he had to re-write the extremely boring scenes where two characters just talk for a while to remove the humour that could've easily been in it. Like that scene with the cop and the woman in the bar, it was just mind-numbing to sit through but wouldn't have taken much to add some dark comedy moments, playing on the whole alcoholic thing.

It would also explain all those really redundant jumpscare scenes that felt shoehorned in, like the witch appearing in Brolin's dream, or appearing on the ceiling of Ozarkette's bedroom. Like they just added them to hit the jumpscare quota.

On the other hand, it could really have just been Zach trying to make a horror but his comedy background creeping in to the point where he turned the ending into a joke. If I didn't know it was the WKUK Zach, I would've thought the Smiling Friend's Zach was involved, he talks about lots of people/kids surrounding a victim and tearing them apart with quick grabs quite often, I think at one point it was about a monkey torn apart at a kid's birthday party as a dinner.

>>213616279 (OP)
Barbarian was far better and that film wasn't even that good.
>>213623627
Barbarian was actually disturbing and a lot darker, the monster wasn't the giant woman who could physically overpower anyone, it's that she was an incest baby from a baby created by raping the women he captured and killed. Finding the old man in there and seeing all the tapes then the hobo dropping that he got so bored of killing, he started making babies with the babies was genuinely unnerving. Also the old man killing himself and not getting what he deserved and the mother getting shot in the head, it's actually far more horrific and dark than what we got in weapons. The dream sequence with the giant weapon was the peak of the film and then it just went to shit, I was waiting to leave.

Should check out my thread

>>213635360
based Jordan managing to avoid making another Candyman remake-style mistake by accident.

>>213622162
its fucking hilarious that all these bidding wars happen on the basis of a script that then gets changed because of test screenings.

but I bet the original version of the script wasn't actually much better. decisions in Hollywood are based on groupthink and chasing fads.