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>provides unadulterated kino for decades
>gets handed over to china in 1997
>has not produced 1 (one) kino since
has any other film industry fallen off as hard as hong kong?
>Everything everywhere all around has been a fucking disaster since all White countries began to reach terminal diversity
Really makes you think.
It's almost as if China ruin everything. They're like India but with less shit.
>>213633775Hey what happened to that "bitch fuck a china dick" guy?
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/text/bitch%20fuck%20a%20china%20dick/
Perhaps he was liquidated for being counter-revolutionary or something.
Look at Macau, just sitting there across tha bay. What are they up to?
>>213633700 (OP)why did hong kong make kinos meanwhile macau didn't?
>>213633958Macau has a gambling and prostitution based economy.
In the Mood for Love (2000), but Wong Kar-Wai came up before China took over.
>>213633958Hong Kong's degenerate gambling addict brother
give me some good 90's hong kong kino
Nothing to do with China; Japan and Taiwan also stopped producing kino around that time
>>213633781Only koreans seethe at this, almost no americans have heard of it
>>213633958Macao is full of mainlanders and expats
>>213635353there is two movies with the same name made in same year
>>213636402the one on the right by fruit chan is the one you want
biozombie was 98 but i dont know when it actually got produced.
>>213633700 (OP)China just can't produce kino
Why can't authoritarian China produce kino when authoritarian Iran produces kinos every year left and right?
>>213638219>>213638242Nta but apparently it's a thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_of_Iran
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_Iranian_films
I only could have cited Persepolis but there are tons of them..
>>213635303https://letterboxd.com/filmcharts/list/film-s-trip-around-the-world-east-asia/decade/1990s/country/hong-kong/
>>213638187they have produced their fair share of kino, it's just their big budget slop that is really bad
https://letterboxd.com/filmcharts/list/film-s-trip-around-the-world-east-asia/country/china/
All asian cinema died in the 90's because Americans moved on and refused to distributed them.
There are still great movies made there, including the mainland but you haven't heard of them because of racism towards asians in ZOG.
>>213638219>>213638242>>213638772nta, but Iran has produced a suprising amount of really fucking good directors, especially given their situation
https://letterboxd.com/filmcharts/list/film-s-trip-around-the-world-middle-east/country/iran/
>>213633781>made americans seetheAhahahaha is that what they tell you? Literally no one here has ever heard of it
>>213638219>>213638242Uncultured swines, and you dare to browse /tv/?
>>213633700 (OP)Was that really its own country until 1997? For some reason I never heard of it until a couple of years ago and when I was a kid I even thought its Chinas capital.
Did I really get worked by chinese propaganda?
>>213639224>I even thought its Chinas capital.You would have been executed according to chinese propaganda.
>>213633781War chinkslop makes the dopiest Western war flick look like high art. The Eight Hundred was laughable, especially when you look up what actually happened.
>Thatcher was willing to go to war over an island in the middle of nowhere inhabited by a total of 3 sheep but not for Hong Kong
>>213633700 (OP)Didn't they made Kung-Fu Hustle?
>>213639339I can read mandarin so flicked through their high school history books.
They claim they won the Korean war, and say they beat the US. They don't mention the united nations at all.
>>213639396Argentina had no real cards. China said they'd turn off the water and blockade the Island. Britain made an emergency plan to move the whole population of HK to... nothern ireland, but never followed through.
Would have been funny though just to see the early 2000s Kino of hong kongers screaming UDA songs
>>213633700 (OP)Communism destroys innovation and creativity
Everyone knows this
>>213639465korea's kinda true. USA was not in any way prepared for that shit, china was.
>>213639465Ukrainians literally dammed off a river to cut off Crimean water supply, yet the Russians found a way around it.
Sounds like the UK didn't try hard enough. You're telling me the Royal Navy was scared of a couple chink fishing boats?
>>213639492prepared as in the US tied one hand behind their back. China wanted to kill off the KMT defectors so threw them into the fight to basically get killed.
South Korea ended up with more land north of the parralell at the end of the war. Almost all Chinese prisoners opted to go to Taiwan rather than back to beijing as well. The US had a plan to end the war (McArthur) but Truman was too much of a coward to follow through with it...
>>213639513In 1997 the UK still had the cold war navy, problem is the air force. The chinese could just keep running sorties and eventually sink the boats.
just wasn't worth defending. besides, in the 1990s it was thought HK + WTO membership would make the chinese more like us and lowly they'd embrace democracy. how naive that all was is only really apparent with hindsight
>>213639492>china was.Many of their soldiers didn't have guns.
>>213639396those Argie dipshits could be knocked off before teatime. Hong Kong was a different matter.
I wonder how many other /tv/ posters live here.
What's your kinoplex of choice?
>>213639587The Argentinians were getting lucky using French missiles so Thatcher called the French President and said give us the codes or we nuke the whole country (Argentina). The French President caved. Only came to light in the early 2000s. Thatcher did not fuck about
>>213639565yeah but that wasn't so important for their doctrine. extreme stealth and blitzkrieg + bayonets was actually super effective against
>rely solely on air force and artilleryUSA.
>>213639536Really you're blowing it out of proportion, they would have managed. Pic related.
It was a conscious choice to hand over a million of British citizens to a communist regime. Another act of sabotage against the British people just like the ruination of industry.
>in the 1990s it was thought HK + WTO membership would make the chinese more like us and lowly they'd embrace democracyOnly some retards thought that. The real think tanks knew that won't be the case, so they attempted a color revolution in China which ended with the Tiananmen Square pacification.
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>>213638187True Iran produced the funniest stuff this year
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>>213639588In Hong Kong?
I like this one since they have a lot of special showings of older kinos
>>213639608Can you source me up on that, chief? That’s hilarious
>>213639608All that to self destruct via shitskins a few years later anyway. What's wrong with the UK?
Local Hong Kongers see mainland Chinese as Indian-tier. They commit 99% of the scams and cheats here and get away with it. They also shit and squat on the street like no one cares.
What's worse is that unlike Indians you can barely tell them from us apart so you don't know who you're dealing with until they start showing one of their weird behaviors
>>213639588As the other anon said, Broadway in Yau Ma Tei is pretty much the only regular indie cinema in the city, so you HAVE to go there for a lot of niche screenings. It's fine but nothing special. Golden Scene in Kennedy Town does stuff too but it's smaller so there are less options and screenings. Cinefan shows a lot of stuff at the Louis Koo Cinema in the Arts Centre in Wan Chai, but it's not very comfortable, there's no concession stand, and is only for their seasonal obscure kino. I'd say the Golden Harvest cinema in TST is the only cinema in town with a semblance of a feel of a proper old school cinema.
>>213639695Here you go
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/22/books.france
>>213639747How do Hong Kongers feel about becoming totalitarian? Do people talk about it or whisper in private?
Been a shame to see you guys go from a minor cultural powerhouse to obscurity.
>>213639632>Only some retards thought that. The real think tanks knew that won't be the case, so they attempted a color revolution in China which ended with the Tiananmen Square pacification..... tiananmen was before HK handover and china joining the WTO, so that makes no sense at all. i was in china last week, the disturbances in china were all over china, not just solely in beijing. it wasn't a colour revolution, it was a genuine organic movement that did have some elements get coopted but people generally were rising up all over.
>>213639681>>213639859Thanks anons, I'll have to check them out.
So far I've only been to the one in Admiralty since moving here.
>>213639895They did this to themselves.
>destroy your city because you don't want a law that would allow to deport criminals to the mainland, after a podophile child murderer fled the mainland to hong kong>instead get a draconian law because HK retards took money and orders from US and British politicians trying to trigger a tian an men 2.0 in HK (le tanks are about to roll in spam)Hong Kongers showed they are histrionic women children unable to govern themselves.
>>213635303just watch fallen angels again
>>213639396Falklands was invaded by a country which has zero claim to it while HK was leased and supposed to be returned.
>>213639747t. non-HKer. It's very fucking obvious who is a Mainlander. They way they dress is an instant giveaway. Their makeup too if they're female. Probably the fact they're yelling out loud across the street/shop/restaurant is another sign from distance that they're not local. People here are racist against Indians but that means they actually behave and are generally decent members of society.
>>213639895People don't talk about it. They've chosen to memory hole the whole 12 months of massive protest movements, which is extremely sad given the sheer scale of the protests and the length of them. The ones who really cared left already. The ones who are still here are the ones who supported Beijing anyway, or can't leave, or just choose to keep their heads down knowing that most other places are worse than HK even if they have more press/political freedom.
>>213639973>Do nothingThe vice gets tighter.
>Do somethingThe vice gets tighter.
You think the guys running gang rape concentration camps will leave you be?
>>213633958Hong Kong was run by Brits, so it got shit done. Macau was run by Portuguese, so it didn't.
You might as well wonder why America became a superpower but Brazil didn't.
>>213640067Betraying your country by taking money from geopolitical adversaries, in defence of a child killer, and destroying your country in the process is never justifiable especially considering the issue of Mainland criminals finding safe harbor in Hong Kong has been an issue since the KMT era
>>213640137Macau's wealthier than HK you mongoloid, they focused on different sectors
>>213639973The Five Demands were entirely reasonable. If the HK leadership wasn't retarded (which is a long shot, I know, since they're entirely Beijing stooges) they could have defused the entire protest movement in a snap and not made it into an ongoing crisis by saying they'd do everything and then steadily renege later on when everyone stopped caring. (Certain protesters saying they wanted independence were obviously retarded and were probably double agents from Beijing designed to fuck up democracy movements in HK)
>>213640216>"the 20 people that own all the casinos and do all the money laundering are rich"epic. that's not a society though
>>213640147>Betraying your countryBy not siding with China...
>destroying your countryBy China. So don't betray the people destroying your country or they'll destroy your country a little bit faster.
>>213639973>deport criminals to the mainlandnah that's called extradition. Which they already did it illegally before any of this happened. Deportation means deporting mainlanders to mainland China which everyone would support
Mainlanders, Hkers... all chinks to me.
>>213639905>it was a genuine organic movementThat's what they said about all color revolution. It was still funded by Soros and supported by the CIA.
And there's nothing wrong with the chronology at all. Ideas don't come and go within the span of one year.
>>213640029Hong Kong wasn't leased from the CCP, it was leased from the Qing dynasty. Returning it to the Kuomintang and Republic of China would have been just as viable, yet wasn't pursued.
>>213633781Would rather rewatch Taegukgi: Brotherhood of War than this CCP propaganda film.
>>213640699>Returning it to the Kuomintang and Republic of China would have been just as viable, yet wasn't pursued.Why would they return it before being legally obligated to?
Anyhow, the funny thing about Hong Kong is the British didn't care about it until it became time to think about handing back the New Territories (since, in theory, they could have kept Kowloon and HK Island). Until the Communists took power Shanghai was a much more important port, and Singapore the fulcrum of imperial defense in east Asia.
>>213640282Well where are the SG kinos then?
>>213640886>Why would they return it before being legally obligated to?Because the poster I was replying to conflated two unrelated historical entities. The English signed a treaty with the Qing emperor, yet that poster claimed it was still legally binding to return Hong Kong to People Republic of China and only PRC, somehow, despite China having 2 distinct successor states.
>>213640963>>213640699>leased it from the qing dynastyya know I never thought about that. huh, why not give it to taiwan then you're right. doesn't make sense... hmmm
>>213633700 (OP)Some of their best stuff came out in the 00's-2010's. Maybe they were still in a transition period.
>>213640137Saar moortuguese are white
>>213633775A far fewer cats and dogs.
>>213641025This is a Mainland movie (right down to its message) starring some HK actors
>>213639973didn't know there are actual wumaos here.
>destroy your city because you don't want a law that would allow to deport criminals to the mainlandthe law allows ANYONE to get extradited to the mainland, not only criminals you fucking moron. hker knows its a death sentence if you are extradited to the mainland since the entire mainland legal system is just a kangaroo court, that's why they didn't want the law
>>213641152why not just uh, I don't know, write a law where it's online extradition of mainland criminals back to the mainland? lol
>>213641146It's a co-production. Most of the mainland's action movies are co-productions because they don't have the chops to do it on their own, or didn't more until recently.
>>213633700 (OP)>>gets handed over to china in 1997>>has not produced 1 (one) kino sinceTo be fair, kino peaked here:
https://youtu.be/Wv6f3lplUf8?si=JxG0Ae1Zo1nX-O9P
Hong Kongers don’t care about geopolitics. They’re just getting the fatigue from the mainland Chinese’s third worldism. Having to deal with it day to day in their lives. Whilst the government keep giving those people billions of dollars each year and treating the locals like second class citizens
I always wanted to visit HK but is it actually cool? Not that I can afford travel
>>213641841Despite the doomerism I still quite like living here. More than in England at least. There isn't much touristy stuff but it's worth a visit.
>>213641424bait used to be believable but just in case you're genuinely retarded, china wanted full control of hk immediately instead of the original 50 years that was agreed upon in the handover in 1997.
anti-mainland legislative council members were all disqualified so the law passed easily. now hk is just another city thats part of china instead of having its own autonomy and identity
Faithless fools. HK has produced a lot of kino since 97. There're the obvious ones like Infernal Affairs and In the Mood for Love. Not to mention Johnny To produced great films year after year for a long time (A Hero Never Dies, The Mission, PTU, Breaking News, Throwdown, Election, Mad Detective, etc). Trivisa is a great movie that's as Johnnie To as can be without being directed by the man himself. And the territory makes some really good dramas of a kind that would never be made in the 80s or 90s - films like Distinction, a really good look at the local education system, and Beyond the Dream, a very good tale of a romance between a couple with mental health issues (it's not as melodramatic as it sounds and the concept is surprising and well-executed).
>>213641841Honestly, it's a good place to live (if you're not American and don't expect to live in a McMansion) but there's not much to see here. It's best to stay a couple of nights on the way to or from some other destination in the region.
>>213641841no. hk is soulless nowadays, filled with dirty mainlanders. you missed the time to travel to hk which is at least 20 years ago.
local hkers that have the ability to leave have already left to taiwan/uk/canada/aus. the ones that can't leave are just dying inside. hk today is a husk of what it once wad
>>213641841Its fallen off a bit with the PRC nonsense and now the cops will bust your balls on rare occasion but I never regret going. The hiking and biking is dope and really underrated, most fun thing there IMO.
>>213639224It was a crown colony of Britain from 184something until 1997.
>>213639224IIRC it goes something like this
>gets leased to the british to use as a trading port>is a pseudo-british colony>lease is about to end, britain doesn't renew it (china would never let them) or the chinese just tell them to fuck off and that the lease is no longer valid>hong kong remains a semi-autonomous province within china but the chinese governments keep increasing their control
>>213642289Truth. Everyone focuses on the skyscrapers and the city, but HK's best aspects are in fact the country parks, the hikes, the beaches, and the small Outer Islands.
>>213640029Hong Kong, the island ,wasn't leased the New Territories were. But there's no water on Hong Kong so they needed the New Territories or good relations with China.
>>213633781Not a single American has even heard of one of these Chink war films. I tried watching one once out of curiosity and it was incomprehensible and cheaply made, these things assume you know the history of brave general Ching Chong who fought the evil general Ping Pong who was assisted by the bad colonel Zing Zhong who then switched sides to the Zhuobungmungzing Revolutionary Army in the north eastern front of a sub-theatre of some civil war.
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South Korea was a decent successor for about 15 years.
>>213639396China had a much bigger military even if it was poorer quality back then, plus the USA pushed Britain to hand over Hong Kong because they wanted good relations with China. When a global superpower and the regional power right on its doorstep were going to force the hand-over, there was nothing to be gained by trying to fight. It would have probably lead to a humilation like when India invaded Goa and the international community supported them, Portugal didn't have a leg to stand on. A diplomatic hand-over at least made it a mutual agreement.
>>213642642Parasite is a shitty overrated movie that made me stop watching anything produced in Korea afterwards
>>213633781Even the renewed Han Chinese nationalism is hollow, cynical and only exists to drum up PRC support. The Shanghai historical societies had to fight Beijing hard just to get WW2 sites recognized because they were butthurt it was KMT boys who did the dying, like they weren't also Chinese fighting for the survival of their nation. I appreciate the new trains and all but the Xi regime is so gay and paranoid sometimes, makes me miss Hu Jintao.
>>213639396When would this "war for HK" hypothetically have happened? Thatcher was ousted by her own party in 1990 and her replacement, John Major, was a wet flannel. By 97 you had Blair whose entire MO was appeasing other people and he was too focused on trying to reach peace with Ireland.
>>213642893>whose entire MO was appeasing other peopleI mean not really, he joined the Iraq War when it was unpopular domestically and internationally.
>>213643012That was done to appease the US
>>213642795Impossible to take Chinese misery porn movies seriously when they've always done abhorrent shit to each other and still praise Mao.
>>213642642They had like 5 years in the late 00's and early 2010's then they went to downhill
>>213642451I always thought they were supposed to stay autonomous until 2048, but that the PRC started flexing earlier in 2019, disappearing journalists and cracking down on the (CIA instigated) protests. Then Covid hit and nobody did anything about PRC’s early overreach.
Was about to move there with my ex, her folks had escaped to HK in the 70s but ended up as rich Beijing enthusiasts. Gave up on that idea in 2019
> In the mood for love (2004)
>>213643367I think I confused the takeover with India's reannexation of Goa from Portugal, HK was probably on a longer lease.
>>213633700 (OP)in the mood for love is the greatest chink movie ever
>>213633700 (OP)The sad thing is what they make have to please the China market, which has more people. That's the dilemma in INFERNAL AFFAIRS: Hong Kong was losing its own local identity, the more it got in bed with China doing business, politics (handover meant CCP moved in to call the shots), CULTURE where they have to fold themselves into the "china identity". Through the cops, criminals, moles genre tropes, working to survive ends up giving them identity confusion, or a loss of their former selves cos China is a behemoth in a bad way.
>>213639166i've only watched ghibli movies, kurosawa movies, harakiri, the burmese harp, in the mood for love, parasite, crouching tiger, oldboy, the handmaiden, cure, pulse and memories of murder
>>213643690then you've got a load of kino ahead of you
>>213643095In the 90s they used to make honest misery porn movies that took place in Mao's China
>>213643690from that list specifically? Hana-bi, Hard Boiled, Yi Yi, A Bittersweet Life, and The Man from Nowhere would probably be up your alley, but really everything I've seen on that list has been good. granted that's only 41 films. I'd say just choose one that looks interesting to you, and you're probably in for a good time
>>213643627>>213643545Sounds like a chick flick
