So in what metric is the new movie a success?

Like every other successful movie in the world.
It made its money back.

>>213658943 (OP)
The metric that Superman is back to being made for white children again instead of subhuman IQ litty teenage brownoids.

You've still got your fast and furious slop, go back to watching it

>>213659035
We are talking about a movie where Superman does nothing but save a bunch of brownoids.

>>213658943 (OP)
>Tickets are twice as expensive
>The streaming service you're already subscribed to will have it anyway
>Wonder why less people go to the movies

>>213659051
Lex shoots a brown man in the head.

>>213659087
And the brown is glorified as a hero in the movie.

>>213659035
PedoMan was #1 DC movie in India. Kys self hating Gunnjeet

>>213658943 (OP)
Trump liked it

>>213659129
Did he actually?

OH NO NO NO NO NO GUNNPEDO JEETS WHAT WENT SO WRONG???

>>213659137
Maybe in the next reboot they'll choose a White man instead of a jew.

>>213659137
Why can't other supers wear trunks?
It has a charm to it. Like the directors know they're making kid stuff.

I would argue that Gunn's Superman has had its sales negative effected -because- of Snyder's shitty take on Superman. I don't think Snyder's ticket sales were because of Snyder. They were because of Superman being an icon.
Of course, Snyder alone isn't why DC's popularity is in the toilet. Yet Snyder's garbage films helped sour the public on Superman and DC. Of course, all the blame lies with Warners. They are the idiots that hired Snyder in the first place.
While I think Gunn is a step in yhe right direction, I also think he is just not a good choice for Superman and mainline DC. He should have been in charge of Wildstorm and The Authority. Even then his Engineer is crap being shoe horned in here as a Luthor lacky. Could just as well have been Livewire.

>>213658943 (OP)
Whether or not it's good. Only retards care about box office.

>>213659162
Corenswet is an alright actor. Completely wasted under pedo man's incompetent directing. The BTS made me sad for him.

>>213659188
Snyder is the only director to have made successful Superman movies since the 80's. Gay director failed and now pedo director failed.

>>213659188
I do think Snyder Superman should have been its own thing

>>213659076
Yeah. To be fair to Gunn and Warners, and I don't really want to be, it really is kinda amazing how the box office and cinema has changed since 2013.
Hell
Even Snyder himself is making direct to streaming shit for Netflix. It seems even he doesn't care about ticket sales ans bought into the cult of praying to streaming subscriber numbers.

>WB faces when they realize Superman is box office poison and they fired the only guy that could make his movies profitable and popular

>>213659274
Snyder left Netflix precisely because he wanted to go theatrical, but they wouldn't let him. They released Army of the Dead theatrically, but only that one.

>>213658943 (OP)
>Avg ticket price $16
Love to make up bullshit huh Snyder jeet

>>213658943 (OP)
laying the ground work in a post covid post superhero crazed market

>>213659350
I heard from somewhere that 2029 won't even reach 2019 box office standards.

>>213659294
>It's ok, Gunn will make Superman hit a billion at the box office
>mein Zaslav....mein fuhrer the movie still hasn't hit 600m WW, we fast tracked the digital release to recoup costs
>DAS BIST EIN BEFÄHL

>>213659294
upvote

>>213659137
>On the left, AI slop Superman
>On the right, Superman

only good when pedogunn does it

>>213658943 (OP)
making Superman likable

>>213659087
>only evil villains shoot the innocent brown hero-saints.
thanks gunnstein I love the new jewperman movie.

>>213659162
Superman was literally made by two Jews

>>213659382
Based

>>213659171
It is very old hat. Only Superman can get away with it because he's literally the symbol of all superheroes

>>213659399
and you were made by two fat retards. what's your point.

>>213659137
making superman look "cool" is so fucking retarded i don't get what Zack was going for

>>213659014
If Warner knew they were not going to make any money off this movie they wouldn't have greenlit it.

Gunn's contract expires in 2026, let's see if it gets renewed.

>>213659452
Shitting on soiboi sensibilities

>>213658943 (OP)
oh man i already know the sequel's box office is gonna piss you off

>those Gunnjeets spamming the catalog with anti MoS threads hoping to divert posters away from this thread

the faggot is here

>>213659527
>R-right guys?
>H-heh, right?
>Relatable, huh?
>...
>Guys?

>>213659188
>Yet Snyder's garbage films helped sour the public on Superman and DC.
I wonder for how many films you losers are going to keep this line going. Or when you'll switch to "I guess Snyder killed DC permanently".

>>213658943 (OP)
washing the taste out of snyder out of people's mouths

>>213659603
If it did a billion, they would blame Snyder for holding Superman back. Now that Gunnpedo's version flopped, they are blaming Snyder for it NOT making a billion. The shill strategy is there. Truth is Superman as character is BO poison and only Snyder managed making him apealing to audiences.

>>213658943 (OP)
Why are you guys so obsessed about this? It’s kinda sad and pathetic

>>213659602
Mad self hating Gunnjeet. Go spam more threads to cope with this miserable ass flop.

>>213659750
What else is India supposed to do?

Since when do normies and fags started caring so much about box office?? I swear a couple years ago no one even mentioned it

>>213659782
Kek I didn’t know the poos liked Snyder shitty universe so much

>>213659811
>>213659782

>>213659805
Gunnpedos deserve this rubbed in their faces. Smug weak ass shills.

>>213658943 (OP)
a profitable palate cleanser and long term investment

>>213659853
Yeah but why is this even being brought up? I don’t get it who cares about box office
Fucking lilo and stitch made one billion lol

>>213659969
Some people are mean intended and wanted to use BO numbers as way to gloat one film's superiority over the other. Suffice to say, it didn't work out as planned.

How does a movie that supposedly made over half a billion dollars have so little cultural relevance except for nearly universal apathy or dislike for it among non-shills?

>man of inflation
>man of ticket solds
This movie spawned some of the weirdest cope I've seen.

I love reading about soiboys online blaming Snyder for Normalman flopping. As if Gunn ever made a single successful movie outside of the MCU brand. As if all his WB movies haven't been flops. As if the studio who hired him didn't force him to majorly revise the tone of the movie upon realizing he just made GoTG again.

All the shill lines are there. If it flops, blame Snyder. If it's a hit, blame Snyder. Whatever you do, don't talk about how every trailer of this movie looked like complete ass and the movie's entire gimmick was "look Superman saves cats again".

Audiences don't care about these fanboy wars. They were advertised a movie that looked too childish, cartoonish and slap stick for them to bother.

>>213660118
none of which are as catchy as man of murder

>>213658943 (OP)
I mean Zaslav got what he paid for, high critical reception with pitiful box office reception. Even GoTG in its heyday couldn’t beat 900m. Because Gunn like Snyder is on the niche side. You need something James Cameron-esque to get the big numbers. Incredibly basic but sincere. Gunn is incredibly basic but also insincere.

>>213660118
You mean Superkike?

>>213660243
>high critical reception
Critical reception was mid and ultimately meaningless.

>>213658943 (OP)
>what metric is the new movie a success?
less brown audiences

>>213660292
See >>213659828

>>213660160
Literally this. GotG only did well because it was attached to the MCU. That's it. And I want to believe that 99% of people already know this and it's only the few vocal MoS hating boomers who were rabid about Gunn's success. I don't even think they like Gunn's Superman I think it might be anything they view as "opposed to MoS". Which is funny because Zack Snyder has openly stated his support for Gunn's Superman.

>>213660342
>GotG only did well because it was attached to the MCU
I like to think 1 works as a standalone comedy especially with the cast behind it but 2 and 3 were horrid and definitely riding the coattails of the mcu. Gunn’s about to find out the hard way he can’t spam the same formula.

>>213660342
Back then any MCU slop did well. It was a huge normalfag fad franchise. Gunn is in every other situation a failure. He got carried by the MCU.

>>213660243
God why do people even care about critical reception for these big summer blockbuster movies?
>Oh no, online soiboys hate my movie, even though it made crazy amounts of money. Better wipe the slate clean.
>Oh yeah! We lost $200 million and our movie was a financial failure despite zero competition (Suicide Squad) but we appeased the faggots!
Like if you were going for an academy award then sure, whatever. But the only goal of capeshit movies is to MAKE MONEY.

Nothing pleases shareholders wallets more than a certified fresh on rotten tomatoes.

>>213660428
Not to mention that if the goal was to keep making DC movies that do well critically, and only critically, then why not keep Walter Hamada around?
Hamada was all about making low budget DC movies that were well received critically, even if they didn't make much money. The only truly expensive one was Gunn's TSS,

Kek Gunnjeets are so mad
KWAB

>>213658943 (OP)
The metric that MOS would’ve bombed in today’s Post Covid direct steaming climate. The terrible critic reviews and word of mouth would’ve killed it. People would’ve just waited for it to hit HBO Max instead paying $16. At best it’d be performing like F4 which had a similar drop. But F4 got good reviews

>>213660428
>God why do people even care about critical reception for these big summer blockbuster movies?
It’s all variable. People change the narrative between “don’t trust critics” and “yay critics” all the time. In reality critics are merely a sample size of around 200 people and they have practically zero effect on the box office. In this case it’s the only victory Reddit could pull for Gunn who’s big on there.

>>213660528
Uh sure.

>>213659399
Per their own literal words that have been recorded and are for all to see:

>We never intended for Superman to be a jewish allegory, or to represent jewish people

>>213660528
Okay, what's up with this 'steaming' thing? I've been seeing people calling streaming as 'steaming' on social media as well. What's with that?

>>213660555
Yup. And I didn’t even mention China boycotting capeshit now. MOS made 60 million chinkland so that would be gone

>57% of box office is domestic
>bulk of international box office is india
money laundering bros we eating good

>>213660632
>And I didn’t even mention China boycotting capeshit now.
Sure, honey.

>>213660596
Autocorrect

>>213660528
Sure thing pedo

LMAO.

>>213660632
China loves Snyder so don't think so.

>>213660632
Ok I think I understand now. In your world, Inside Out 2 never came out until it debuted on Disney+ and Netflix.

>>213660719
Doesn’t matter. China full on boycotting anything representing America

>>213660835
You’re an idiot why people hate jeets

>>213658943 (OP)
probably the worst superman of all time he just looks like a random guy with super power

I see Avatar 2 doesn't exist in your world either. Nor does Far From Home or Deadpool&Wolverine.

>>213660647
F4 did even worse than Superman in China. Like much much worse.

>>213660895
Nah Deadpool did great in China and JW did alright too. They just thought S2025 was shit and didn't bother.

>>213660895
China demanded their own version of a DC event during the Covid era because WB was against Zack Snyder, and the China version was about Snyder's stuffs.

>>213660918
That's pretty much the idea.
>super
>man
A guy with super powers.

You mean to tell me James Gunn lied???? who could've seen that coming

>>213660917
No no you said it yourself. People only do streaming now so blockbuster movies don't exist. Any movie even approaching $1 billion just ceases to be, according to you (MoS box office would approach $1 billion adjusted for inflation). And of course you're absolutely right. There has not been a single movie post 2018 that has even gotten close to $1 billion. I fact-checked.

>>213661003
DC Fans in Bangladesh betrayed

>>213658943 (OP)
You can't stop thinking about it.

>>213660925
Big event movies like Avatar in 3D or popular team ups and family movies are only movies making a billion now. Movies where people feel like they need to get the big screen experience as opposed just waiting for it hit streaming in 35-45 days. Fact this has to even be explained to you means you’re not an American and live in a third world sbithole with no options but to go to a shithole dung hut theater

>>213661071
This was a team up movie.

>>213660968
>Nah Deadpool did great in China
That's pre trump
>JW
They loves dinosaur too much but even then it only make half of the last movie.
Another movie, Age of Extintion did more in China than domestic ffs.

>>213661071
This was a big event movie.

>>213660968
Was there a trade war going on last year with China? Are you really this stupid and uninformed

>>213658943 (OP)
>Left
Fresh innovative take that can stand on its own
>Right
Average cape”it doesn’t need to make money”slop

>>213661071
Why wasn't Superman a big event movie? It certainly had the budget of one.

>I suddenly care about "tickets sold" which I have never given a shit about until now and never will for any other film

>>213661114
No it wasn’t. It was another reboot that most people were not excited seeing another Superman movie. I didn’t think was going to this well in the US

>>213659014
fpbp

>>213661124
>Was there a trade war going on last year with China
Yes.

>>213658943 (OP)
Someone should add the 1978 version to this lmao

>>213659014
Man of Steel was considered a disappointment to WB and it more than made its money back.

>>213661136
Well that’s the conundrum isn’t it. Superman 2025 is a painfully unremarkable movie that people are struggling to judge on its own merits.

>>213659137
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/iSCCi3UJnOpDie3Wdut0Xw/

>>213661177
It had a year long theatre run.

>>213661124
The point is that China would never, EVER ban a Zack Snyder's movie.

>>213659035
>white children
Jewish children. Corenswet is a jew. They likely thought Rachel Brosnahan was jewish too.

>>213659035
The only brown people who liked the first movie were the Indians, the rest didn't care about this movie.

>>213661165
>400m reboot of the world's most recognizable superhero meant to kick start a whole film universe
>not event film
Alrighty

>>213659452
Based retard

Like China is crazy about Zack Snyder.

>>213661165
Oh wow, you are an ESL. Also great then. You agree. It was a less exciting Superman movie than MoS.

>>213661205
And this is a 3 months run vs 1 month run, sound perfect then

>>213661003
I banged ladesh

>>213659828
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/YD9fFPLC0aevzaPKeX5oTg/

Super crazy. China shouldn't even be an argument.

>>213659493
This. Man of Steel is the most anti-millennial movie ever made.

>>213661207
The Chinese love Snyder

https://viralhare.com/global-phenomenon-zack-snyders-justice-league-gets-500m-views-in-china/?amp=1

>>213660982
he's still shit he acts too human and doesn't have a serious side and looks goofy all the time like he's from super heroes parody movies

>>213661241
ZSJL is the better movie of the two, objectively, so this makes sense to me.
Russos dropped the fuck out of the ball with Endgame, which is a real shame because I liked Infinity War.

I see what Snyder meant now. When he said his movies aren’t for kids he doesn’t mean literal kids, he means millennial “Disney adult” man children that couldn’t grow up.

So if Snyder had made Superman 2025 China would have shown it.

China had a special screening for Rebel Moon, both versions, and nobody else cared about those movies.

>>213661233
Nope. It was to rebuild the brand. The Event movie will be the team up with Supergirl against Brainiac, especially if Supergirl does well.

>ZSJL was bigger than Endgame in China
WB was sitting on literal gold and just said fuck it let Hamada greenlight Birds of Prey and The Suicide Squad instead.

Absolute apes.

>>213659439
Not an argument, I win

I'll be honest. I like the new Superman. I want to see more of this verse. I also liked MoS. I thought it was a uniquely fresh take on Superman. Especially with its realism. Like all the sci-fi elements and real-world paranoia. At least on-screen we had never gotten a live-action version of that. The movie was very much in the vein of new 52. But I like Corenswet's version too. It's less realism and more comicbook goofiness which is refreshing to see. Like Superman's healing processing being literally a giant magnifying glass. And literally any scene with Luthor. I like them both.

>>213661272
>Man of Steel is the most anti-millennial movie ever made.
then why are millennial's the only people who give a flying fuck about the movie? Boomers and Gen Xers who grew up on comics hate the MoS for obvious reasons and zoomers straight up just don't even think about the movie at all.

>>213661177
>Superman 1978: $300,478,449
>adjusted of inflation:$1,488,787,760.62
>1978 Avg. ticket price: $2.34
>tickets sold: 128,409,593
Damn.

>>213661356
there was a team up in this movie tho :^)

>>213660566
That's great and Tolkien said LotR is not related to WWII and he is also wrong. Death of the author, I kinda don't give a fuck what they say, the work speaks for itself, and supermans story takes heavy influence from Moses's story.

>>213661349
He should have went to china to make movies instead of killing 3 franchises then.

>>213660646
People in other non-clown countries are not really big on America right now.

>>213661185
Not really. It only went downhill with BvS.

>>213661444
found the 3rd worlder

>>213661388
Which comics, exactly? Because Zack often cited the comics and their writers that inspired him, and having read those comics myself I saw a lot of it in his capeshit.

the sheer amount of self-fellating Snyderfags seem to require just to function every day is wild

>>213661388
You'll find Snyder fanatics will say anything for the sake of console wars.

>>213661451
Sadly WB said that gay shit themselves. They expected it to break a billion. It was still enough to continue on, but I've always felt that they began meddling starting with BvS, and that's where it did indeed go downhill.

>>213661467
You wouldn't understand the passion for kino.

>>213661467
Snyder wanted to make Batman cuck Superman and then Superman to raise the baby, who would eventually become Batman. I don’t think anyone actually cares about the snyderverse.

>>213661486
>says the faggot who had the audacity to make this gay shit and even put a bonus checkmark on the 600 million mark
lmao

>>213661451
It was 100% considered a disappointment, they were expecting The Dark Knight type sales, with Nolan plastered all over Man of Steel and a massive marketing campaign. The entire reason you got BvS was Man of Steel not grossing as much as WB expected and them pivoting from a Man of Steel 2 to a Batman Superman crossover, hoping to get the Marvel success with The Avengers from the previous year.

>>213661360
There were a lot of moving politics at WB, most of which were anti Snyder driven. Even if ZSJL was an ultra success they still wouldn’t have done anything with it. It only happened because the AT&T CEO forced them too.

>>213661504
That never happened. In ZSJL Lois is already pregnant, and we know it is from Superman's child.

>>213660708
I'm actually against this but for movies in general because this severely hurts theaters. Many of them have bullshit deals with studios that take 90 percent of their money earned from ticket sales for something like 4 weeks and then after that the theater gets maybe 30 percent? So now with movies going to streaming so fast they make even less money.

>>213661533
This.

>>213661533
That's the original story before they forced him to change it

>>213661360
>>ZSJL was bigger than Endgame in China
No it fuckin wasn't. Endgame grossed 175 million in China. ZSJL didn't even have a theatrical release.

>>213660708
>Oh well...
KEK

>>213661574
Ben Affleck changed that once he was cast. It is the sole reason why Gal Gadot is in BvS as Wonder Woman. Affleck chose her himself, and he did so because he wanted Wonder Woman to be Batman's love interest. They were banging in real life.

>>213661593
>ZSJL didn't even have a theatrical release.
And it was watched by far more people.
He's not talking about box office. He's saying ZSJL is more popular, and it is.

>>213661593
Fun fact: China wanted to show ZSJL theatrically, WB told them no. Even then there were plenty of illegal theatrical screenings of the movie, which is how WB eventually accepted to sell ZSJL to China, but as VOD.

>>213661629
Shame that alcohol and gambling destroyed Ben right when he started to become kino.
I'm convinced his Batman movie would've actually been good. The Batman was a big pile of ugly shit and I regret sitting through it.

Man of Steel being a disappointment is some hilariously revisionism. The theatrical Superman IP was dead in the water and MoS only came to be because Nolan and Goyer came up with and proposed it on a whim. Otherwise there wouldn’t have been a Superman movie at all. MoS was a benchmark to see where the character stood in the modern market and it did well. BvS happened because WB (including Snyder) thought they could mix peanut butter and jelly to literally double the box office.

>>213661464
Superman is the ultimate symbol of hope, selflessness, and moral clarity. A beacon of what humanity could be at its best. He’s not just a guy with powers, he’s an ideal, a farmboy from Krypton who chooses to protect a world that doesn’t always trust him, not because he has to, but because he believes in the good of people. His strength isn’t just in his fists, it’s in his unwavering compassion, his ability to inspire, and his refusal to compromise his values, even when it’s hard. He’s the guy who saves cats from trees and stops world-ending threats with the same earnestness, because to him, every life matters. That’s why he’s endured for decades, he’s the hero we aspire to, not the one we deserve. Man of Steel takes a sledgehammer to that legacy. Zack Snyder’s Superman is a brooding, conflicted loner who feels more like a gritty antihero than the Boy Scout who defines the character. The film strips away his warmth, replacing it with a dour, Jesus-coded messiah complex that’s more about spectacle than substance. Instead of inspiring hope, this Clark Kent mopes through a joyless world, snapping Zod’s neck in a moment that’s not just brutal but fundamentally un-Superman. The real Superman would’ve found another way because that’s what he does. He doesn’t level cities in CGI slugfests, leaving countless dead in the rubble, or sulk about his role as a savior. Man of Steel sacrifices the heart of the character for grim, try-hard “realism” that misses the point entirely. Superman isn’t supposed to be relatable, he’s supposed to be better than us, a light in the dark, not a brooding shadow. The film’s a betrayal, a soulless husk of a hero who should’ve been so much more.

Reminder that MoS lost to fucking Thor 2. THOR 2

>>213661658
WB's hate towards Snyder knows no boundaries.

>>213661658
ZSJL coming out really buckbroke WB like nothing I'd ever seen.
>>213661680
>dodging the question
>cited zero authors
TL;DR

>>213661658
Don’t forget ZSJL trailers and promotions only being posted on the HBO Max page. DC and WB social accounts weren’t posting anything on it because someone clearly had their panties in a twist.

>>213661669
You forgot to mention the part that clarifies that these movies suck ass

>>213661690
All MCU slop did good back then. It's a meaningless comparison.

>>213661690
Man of Steel grossed 670 million, so no, it didn't lose to Thor 2.

>>213661461
Not an argument, I win again

>>213661736
With a budget of 225 millions instead of 170 millions.
>>213661733
>d-doesn't count
Everytime.

>>213661680
Bro you are a mega autist and despite all the words you wrote I can shorten your whole post into 2 lines. You just paraphrased your first sentence a dozen times then said he wouldn't snap Zod's neck. The second point is wrong.

>>213661727
Hell, the DC Fandome event they did back during Covid wasn't even allowed to show any footage of ZSJL, despite the event being in the same fucking year that movie was released.
So China forced them to do a separate event, all so China could glorify ZSJL. See >>213661271. Since it was the biggest DC movie for China that year.

>>213661631
>And it was watched by far more people.
By what metric? Some bullshit like "minutes watched on streaming platforms"?

>>213661518
Guess Nolan shouldn't have written such a piece of shit then

>>213661680

>>213661680
Hey look I found the boomer. You movie was trash back then grandpa and it's still trash now.

>>213661830
So we should change Snyderjeets to Snyderchinks?

>>213661704
>dodging the question
I didn't. When I said Boomers and Gen Xers who grew up reading comics, specifically Superman, I'm referring to the decades of comics where Supes in portrayed as a symbol of hope that I was referring to in my post. I wasn't trying to specify what comics in particular but rather the general perception of how people perceive the character from the various comic runs where it didn't matter what author was writing the comic because they ALL had the same general vision of what Superman is and should be. Zack Snyder did not. My point was very clear and should have been enough to answer your question.

Wtf I love the Chinese now. Absolute based lads.

>>213661680
>Superman is the ultimate symbol of hope, selflessness, and moral clarity.
The bulk of Man of Steel had Clark ruminating and studying morality as a whole and his place on the moral sphere. His conclusion was to protect humanity without question.
>He’s not just a guy with powers, he’s an ideal, a farmboy from Krypton who chooses to protect a world that doesn’t always trust him, not because he has to, but because he believes in the good of people.
This is the exact thesis of Man of Steel. In the film he's forced to choose between saving humanity or turnin earth into a second Krypton. His conclusion wasn't easy, but his choice was made: Krypton had squandered its own survival in the past and its last representatives tried to sacrifice an entire planet to have a second chance. Of course Superman would see this as reprehensible.
I don't even need to quote the rest of your retarded ass post because it's variations of those sentences.
As for killing Zod, Superman would absolutely kill him if it meant saving lives in the heat of the moment. He doesn't have a no-kill rule. Like the film itself, he would also be devastated to do so.
Fact is, you overdramatic disney adults just couldn't fathom the idea of a Superman who was in a position in which he had to use his fists while also having his deepest morals tested with hard choices. You just want faggotty quips and scenes where he's saving squirrels.

>>213661680
See you’re obsessed with the caricature of Superman, not the character. The hope thing is relatively new too, wasn’t even a thing with Reeve was around. Superman is the most rudimentary superhero but also highly adaptable, it’s a shame to see people constrain him to arbitrary aspects.

>>213661658
>Fun fact: China wanted to show ZSJL theatrically, WB told them no
Do you have a source for this claim?

>>213661733
>All MCU slop did good back then
lmao
how did Thor 1 do, anon?

>>213661878
He asked you which comics so you did, in fact, dodge his question

>>213661878
Name the authors. Name them.

>>213661794
>With a budget of 225 millions instead of 170 millions.
>m-muh budget
Jesus Christ. Fact is more people watched MoS.

>>213661878
You keep talking about "people" as in the masses, as if you speak for everyone. You don't.
You're out of touch.

>>213661927
Snyder also referenced Marvelman pretty often, which shares some similarities with Man of Steel, especially the idea of two men of equal power, with the antagonist having far more experience.
And guess what, Marvelman snapped Kid Marvelman's neck while crying.

>>213661878
>this just in, manbaby 40 yo never read a single comic book. only watched the reeves movies. considers himself an expert on superman comic books

>>213661935
Want me to bring in the other marvel movie that year for comparison?
>budget doesn't matter
Then why mos2 isn't a thing? Because fucking thor 2 managed to bring back more money than mos lmao.

>>213661880
>The bulk of Man of Steel had Clark ruminating and studying morality as a whole and his place on the moral sphere. His conclusion was to protect humanity without question.
The idea that Clark spends the bulk of the movie “ruminating and studying morality” is a stretch so far it might as well be in another galaxy. What we actually get is a brooding, mopey Clark drifting through flashbacks and contrived dilemmas that barely scratch the surface of moral complexity. The film doesn’t show him wrestling with nuanced ethical questions, it’s more like he’s sulking through a highlight reel of “should I save people or not?” moments, with all the depth of a kiddie pool.
You say Clark’s conclusion is to “protect humanity without question” is straight up nonsense. If anything, Man of Steel portrays a Superman who’s less about unwavering heroism and more about collateral damage and questionable priorities. He’s not studying morality, he’s stumbling through a midlife crisis at age 30, leaving a trail of destroyed city blocks and zero introspection about the consequences. His “protection” of humanity comes off as a plot checkbox, not a profound moral stance culminating in a finale that undercuts any pretense of moral clarity. Let’s not kid ourselves, this isn’t a philosophical journey, it’s a grim, overblown action flick pretending to have a depth

>>213662051
>The idea that Clark spends the bulk of the movie “ruminating and studying morality” is a stretch so far it might as well be in another galaxy.
You never watched the movie at all, and if you did, you forgot every detail in a blind rage.

>>213662033
I am an expert. You're just butthurt about me shitting on your faggot movie

>>213661902
I'd have to check Twitter, but it'd be hard to find.
Back then HBO Max was available only in some countries and the movie was an exclusive thing for the streaming service.
So China was one of those countries that didn't have the movie. Chinese kept begging WB to release the movie there for like months, and WB only allowed once the Chinese started to literally pirate the movie and create giant screenings, some even making money of it.
So China eventually used that as an argument to get WB to sell them the movie, but WB wouldn't allow them to release the movie theatrically, which is what China wanted.

>>213661927
>quoting the batman dude
Why are snyderfags so retarded?

>>213662070
>You never watched the movie at all, and if you did, you forgot every detail in a blind rage.
Thanks for missing the point entirely, retard. I accept your concession

>>213662076
uh-huh
sure you are

>>213662110
Jesus Christ get some sleep or something. You're either tired or cripplingly stupid. Either way you've got no business here.

>>213661669
>Man of Steel being a disappointment is some hilariously revisionism.
Go fuck yourself, pretending everything was roses in 2013 is actual revisionism. They expected far more from Man of Steel, TDK numbers. They had convinced themselves putting Nolan's name all over it and taking the same dark and edgy faux realism approach would yield similar numbers. It was not as big a disappointment as Superman Returns, but it was not in line with WB's expectations.

>>213662141
You didn't argue a single point. Cope

>>213661935
suddenly, numbers don't matter

>>213662081
>but it'd be hard to find.
I'm sure it would.

>>213662051
There are multiple scenes where he's asking people questions on what the right thing to do is, because he knows he's an alien and wants multiple human perspectives on right and wrong.
It's literally about half the fucking movie you dumbass.

>>213662160
>They expected far more from Man of Steel, TDK numbers. They had
Source?

>>213662164
you know you still havent answered anon's original question.

>>213662160
>but it was not in line with WB's expectations
Based on what? Other than your own dissatisfaction of course

>>213662221
He doesn't know and I didn't expect him to.

>>213658943 (OP)
it beat the MCU, something snyder never did

>>213662202

>>213662230
I'm sure WB expected their movie to have 67% drop on second weekend. MoS is a huge success that only lose to thor 2 or iron man 3.

>>213662207
https://variety.com/2013/film/news/warner-bros-sets-bar-high-for-latest-and-priciest-incarnation-of-superman-1200493334/
>There’s strong industry buzz that “Man of Steel,” yet another bigscreen incarnation of the iconic DC Comics superhero, will be one of the summer’s biggest hits.

>Warner Bros. motion pictures group president Jeff Robinov went so far as to predict it will be the studio’s highest performer ever. That would mean the 3D movie, which cost about $225 million to produce and another $150 million to market and release around the globe, would have to top the $1.3 billion cume for “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2” and the $1 billion-plus each earned by four other Warner releases, “The Dark Knight,” “The Dark Knight Rises,” “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey” and “The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King.”

>>213662202
>There are multiple scenes where he's asking people questions on what the right thing to do is, because he knows he's an alien and wants multiple human perspectives on right and wrong.
>It's literally about half the fucking movie you dumbass.
spare me the "half the fucking movie" bullshit. You’re reaching harder than Clark trying to save Metropolis from his own collateral damage. Those so called scenes of Clark “asking people questions” about right and wrong are barely a blip in Man of Steel’s bloated runtime. What, you mean the handful of shallow chats with Pa Kent or that priest cameo that lasts all of two minutes? Those aren’t deep dives into morality, dumbass, they’re half-baked, cliched moments that scream “we need to pad the script with something profound.” Clark’s not seeking “multiple human perspectives” like some alien philosopher, he’s just an emo kid moping around, paralyzed by indecision, while the movie pretends it’s deep. If you think that’s “literally half the movie,” you must’ve been watching a fan edit that cut out all the explosions and jarring close-ups. The reality? It’s a fraction of the film, drowned out by endless action sequences and a plot that cares more about CGI destruction than actual moral complexity. Calling me a dumbass doesn’t change the fact that Man of Steel’s “moral study” is as thin as Kryptonian ice, just a flimsy excuse for Superman to punch things and call it heroism. Try again.

>>213662230
>>213662306

>>213662295
I accept your concession

>>213662202
>because he knows he's an alien and wants multiple human
CLARK IS FUCKING HUMAN, SUPERMAN IS A HUMAN, THATS THE FUCKING POINT OF SUPERMAN, HE'S NOT A GOD WITH A DIVINE PURPOSE, HE WAS RAISED BY GOOD PEOPLE AND HE CHOOSES TO BE GOOD AND EMBRACES HIS HUMANITY, HE IS THE MOST HUMAN SUPERHERO BECAUSE OF HIS LOVE AND BELIEF IN ALL OF US.

>>213662320
I accept that mos is the worst performing capeshit of 2013

>>213662051
Holy ChatGPT, Batman...

>>213662335
>CLARK IS FUCKING HUMAN, SUPERMAN IS A HUMAN
No, he isn't. He loves humanity but he isn't human himself, and he knows it. He is from Krypton. He accepts that he's from Krypton, but he also loves mankind and wants it to shine.
But he isn't human. He would never call himself human either, as that would be a lie.

>>213662051

>>213662307
>different anon jumping in here
You've been awake jumping from thread to thread for hours now haven't you?

>>213662372
>>213662375
>angrily samefagging
It's time to stop, anon.
>>213662384
I'm beginning to realize he could be the "you are here" box office poster seething again.

>>213662345
I'm sorry your brain is too retarded to comprehend basic observations of a superhero film by someone who knows it's shit. You fundamentally do not understand what Superman is.

>>213662372
i hope you and snyder fucking rope for what you did to this character, fuck you and the evil godlike superman trope you help cemented into the cultural zeitgeist

>>213662345
Glad I noticed this too.
>>213662401
Meant to quote >>213662335 and >>213662375 as samefagging, because it is.

>>213662425
Snyder didn't write MoS

>>213662335
That's the point.
>“Maybe he’s not some sort of devil or Jesus character. Maybe he’s just a guy trying to do the right thing.”

>>213662401

>>213662425
>evil godlike superman
Superman literally went to church for spiritual guidance, dipshit. Your hatred is blinding you to the actual movie.
>b-but it was 2 minutes
Two very important minutes for his character. He had godlike powers but had no intention to become a God-LARPer. That was part of the point.

>>213662438
and goyer

I dont even care about Sneederverse but they need to drop Gunn
all he does is lie and argue on twitter, The 40% Squad flopped, nobody watched nor talked about Creature Commandos, Supermid couldnt even beat Man of Murder
and to make it worse he follows up SUPERMAN with Pacemaker, Supergirl and fucking Clayface. Hes about as retarded as the rest of WB

Imagine defending the objectively worst Superman film

>>213662425
This post is comical lmao. Cavill’s Superman wasn’t a hint of evil but that’s a different topic. How badly does it make you seethe that Injustice is the most well known Superman story? Or that Homelander will forever be a far more compelling and entertaining character?

>>213662425
>what you did to this character,
He's been unashamed of being Kryptonian since the fucking 1930s you shitheel. Superman isn't human. He's never been human. He was raised by humans and loves humans, but screaming "he's human" like a seething fucking basedboy doesn't change the fact that he's a Kryptonian from another world.

>>213662372
>but he also loves mankind and wants it to shine
true, i felt all his love for mankind the way he shot down the spaceship that crashed into 5 buildings in downtown metropolis or how much he prioritized saving lives in the film

>>213662498
I don't understand why people keep using Rotten Tomatoes
A movie with a 100% fresh could mean 100% of reviewers gave it a 6/10

>>213662511
Then why is he Superman instead of Superkryptonian?

>>213662533
Man of Steel wishes it was a 6/10

>>213662407
I don't even necessarily disagree with all gour points, but the fact is, you used ChatGPT to come up with that slop post.

>>213662521
kek

>>213662521
That looks straight out of a comic! - Sneeder probably

>>213662554
I didn't say anything about MoS, I don't understand why people keep posting Rotten Tomatoes percentages instead of the median score

>>213662521
Building was empty by then, many of them were.
The world engine was going on for awhile before his fight with Zod, and the military worked to evacuate the citizens while Superman was on the other side of the planet destroying the world engine's less populated section. By the time he came back much of the city was evacuated with only a few left at the end of the line.
You'd know all of this if you watched the movie.

>>213662335
>HE IS THE MOST HUMAN SUPERHERO BECAUSE OF HIS LOVE AND BELIEF IN ALL OF US.
God damn you overly dramatic faggot. Like seriously do you think you're in a movie or something?
Also funny thing is that MoS did have moments where Superman's humanity was reinforced.

>>213662566
You're lying

>>213662511
In the comics before the 86 reboot Superman would have super-memory, as in he could recall his infancy back in Krypton, and in fact he'd time-travel back to when Krypton still existed so he could hang out with Jor and Lara, or then make himself small so he could hang out with the kryptonians inside the bottled city of Kandor (remember that shit?), and in fact he considered himself so much a kryptonian he'd spout shit like "Great Rao", as in the Kryptonian deity. Meaning he wasn't even Christian, but a fucking alien pagan.

>>213662521
was the tanker filled with kryptonite or something?

>>213662486
Shut up you don’t know what you’re talking about

>>213662608
The fag screaming about this 12 year old movie has no idea about any of that.

>>213662462
>Superman literally went to church for spiritual guidance
on whether or not he should let the kryptonians kill humanity

>>213658943 (OP)
how obsessed do you have to be to be able to find the time to do this

>>213662307
It all makes a lot more sense once you realize that 90% of what Snyderfags talk about in regards to MoS and BvS is just them making up utter shit while navel gazing and self-fellating about how smart they are, with no actual correlation to the two movies that were released besides like, some random dark tinted screenshot they throw out like it's the Assumption of the Virgin

>>213662637
Yes, he was faced with a choice. He was torn between saving one race or another. He made his choice. Krypton had its chance, and killing another planet for a second one wasn't acceptable.

>>213662592
we literally see people running in the streets and still in buildings in the area after the tanker scene in bvs you liar

>>213662372
Culturally human, physically Kryptonian

>>213662592
>muh headcanon
There were lots of people still in the city after this scene.

Let's be honest. The only reason MoS did okay in theaters is because it was banking off of the massive success of Dark Knight and Iron Man the year before. People were all in for Superhero films. It was the start of a new era. If they all had know that MoS was going to be shit, they wouldn't have paid for a ticket but it was too late. Then it just got worse from there with DC.

>>213662401
I mean I wouldn't be surprised. Clearly he spent the last 10 years convincing himself that his distaste for MoS was the popular opinion among its audience. And now he's faced with the reality that it is not.

>>213662602
>God damn you overly dramatic faggot.
Onions's a hell of a drug

>noooo noooo pa kent must die from a heart attack to teach superman he can’t save everyone!
>omg why didn’t he save everyone!
Well which is it?

>>213662670
And if you notice there aren't thousands of them. A few dozen tops. Zod didn't give a shit. He was mad as fuck, and Superman had to put the guy down on his own. This resulted in the objectively best fight scene in the entire Superman film franchise.

>>213662659
>Krypton had its chance
>proceeds to nuke krypton and let the space ship crash into 4 buildings and then makes out with amy adams instead of trying to stop the ship or checking on saving the people he just put in harms way

>>213662637
He didn't know then that Zod planned to wipe everyone out. At that point in the story all Zod did was arrive and request humanity hand over Clark.

>>213662706
And get in the way of the military medics that were swarming the place? He did his part by putting down the immediate threat. He's no doctor.

>>213662703
>omg why didn’t he try save anyone!
fixed

>>213662680
MoS would’ve done even better today

>>213662631
Exactly it's so obvious. He has literally only watched the 1978 movie and never picked up a comic book in his life.

>>213662705
>This resulted in the objectively best fight scene in the entire Superman film franchise.
That shit really was pure kino

>>213662705
>And if you notice there aren't thousands of them
5000 people died in the city anon

>>213662345
>>213662429
I like how you get mad the second anyone actually responds to you at length because you're used to just copypasting your bullshit from Snydercut faggot blogs with no pushback.

>>213660566
Cool, but no where in there do they also say he’s white

Lmao

>>213662705
>meh it's a few dozen tops, who cares

>>213662764
Very small number for a city so massive it was literally called Metropolis.
If you look at the zoom outs even the world engine only destroyed a chunk of the city. And again, the world engine was the direct cause of most of those deaths.
I notice this a lot about faggots like you. You always conveniently forget about the doomsday machine that did by far the most damage, which was active and running well before Superman fought Zod.

>>213662706
That's the point.

>>213662731
we don't even get a scene of him looking at all the wreckage, it just goes to him and lois kissing which was forced as fuck and goes straight into a zod monologue and fight, a fight where he doesn't even try to save a person once till the end at the zod laser eye moment where ironically he didn't even need to kill zod to save those people

>>213662703
There is no correlation here. You're completely incoherent.

>>213662611
The kryptonians in MoS could be knocked down by an A10 Warthog. They're not that strong.

>>213662788
kekked and checked

>>213662816
I too want hero cake

>>213662816
>superman ate his cake while horses drowned
yeah it's pretty obvious why no one likes this superman

>>213662823
>punch Zod a mile away
>but suddenly incapable of stopping him turning his head

>>213662834
we superman get hit with shit way more powerful shit than a gas tank explosion lol

>>213662764
>5000 people
That's the cope number after the massive criticism btw. It should be much higher but then again, the 2025 has 0 death.

>>213662823
>he doesn't even try to save a person once
He was very busy. That's no excuse; he was literally in the middle of a fight with a guy who was very dead set on killing him in order to move on to killing everyone else.
If you've ever read Marvelman, which you haven't, you could imagine the consequences of Superman losing that fight.
You're saying he didn't try to save anyone. Keeping Zod busy was his attempt to save everyone, and he ended up succeeding.

>>213662861
Once again, the world engine killed by far the most people, if not every person during the Metropolis attack. They're literally fighting in the wreckage.

>>213662870
>was his attempt to save everyone, and he ended up succeeding.

>>213662854
He was a very human Superman. A genuinely flawed person. Not some bullshit "i am human, but only the best qualities."

>>213662903
Superman had to destroy the world engine, would you rather he stop to ensure the planet was uninhabitable?

>>213662861
snyder was coping when he pulled out 5000 but bvs made it clear it was thousands

Bro, there was so much uncontained destruction in MoS that they literally wrote the climax of BvS to take place in the abandoned buildings district of Gotham in response to the backlash. Stop trying to pretend it didn't happen or that it's no big deal.

>>213662870
>If you've ever read Marvelman, which you haven't, you could imagine the consequences of Superman losing that fight.
Everyone can imagine it. Is your whole thought process shaped by a single comic books or something?
Evryone knows he's busy but the criticisms still stand. This is not the first movie with world ending threat nor the last.

>>213662823
What the fuck did you want him to do you stupid faggot? Grab every single civilian before Zod could laser them? If he was that fast then why not just overpower Zod? Did you seriously want to see Superman try to fight a fire with his hands? It would be completely futile to save 1 person while Zod was still around.

>>213662914
Literally anyone who watched and paid attention know this.
It's literally a very angry vocal minory, and always has been.

>>213662914
lmao >>213662639

>>213662926
Stop asking Snyderfags to think critically. They have to live in their delusional reality.

>>213662942
Explain the 67% drop in the second weekend if it's just a "vocal minority" that disliked the film?

>>213662926
>in response to the backlash.
Their mistake was responding to it. That backlash was twitter faggots seething online. If they saw it for what it was and completely ignored it, we'd have gotten a much better series overall.

>>213662705
>A few dozen tops
pretty sure way more people died during the Zod fight than a few dozen, the Spaceship of Solitude crash that Superman caused alone caused hundreds of deaths, and the fight itself probably another hundred in total

>>213662926
>the climax of BvS to take place in the abandoned buildings district of Gotham in response to the backlash
And ZSJL, kek. At least Whedon didn't shy away from saving people instead of muh abandoned landscape.

>>213662962
>ignoring your audience is a good thing

>>213662860
We see Superman knocked back and incapacitated for a short time after being shot dipshit.
https://youtu.be/fPyGnlct1o0?t=218
He even grunts in paint. Fuck even Nam-Ek got thrown back and he's the strongest kryptonian in the movie.

Superman saving the world in a sloppy way was meant to justify assembling the Justice League

>>213658943 (OP)
yes we should do the # of admissions like other industries.

>>213662946
Wait, are you now telling me Snyder's Superman isn't fucking flawed?

>>213662975
so it IS sloppy, got it

>>213662938
>Superman try to fight a fire with his hands?
how bout he just blows on the fire?

>>213658943 (OP)
Defeating marlel to the point disney had to shut hulu down to cover the losses

>>213662934
>Evryone knows he's busy but the criticisms still stand.
Your argument has been that Superman didn't even try to help, so Superman being busy demolishes your criticism. Glad you agree that he was forced to prioritize.
>>213662970
>twitter
>ever the prevailing audience
They would've ignored the fags who they weren't even targeting. The audience would've only kept growing. Note how the reception got worse when they listened to twitterfaggots.

>>213662977
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/Pr7Eegzra6PVaCpI4UGeAg/
literally 1:1 with the post
funny shit

>>213662962
>That backlash was twitter faggots seething online
I'm the 67% drop was all Twitter faggot throwing tantrums kek.

>>213662971
thats crazy cause 2025 Superman just tanks fire attacks from temu godzilla and just absorbs all the damage, my bad i guess, i didn't realize MoS superman was so weak

>>213662968
Tons of people die in ZSJL. Graphically. Steppenwolf fucking bodies those amazons.

>>213662991
>If I keep repeating twitter, that will nullify all criticisms!

>>213662965
>during the Zod fight
The fight with Zod itself showed no human casualties at all. In fact the only visible humans during the entire fight were the ones Superman saves by killing Zod.
The only time people were dying was during the full blown invasion shit.

>>213663012
tru

>>213663013
ok but thats not really the point though.
glad you realize the oil truck makes sense now :)

>>213663012
From what I've seen, yes.
>>213663025
I never said that, fag.

>>213662991
>Superman
>too busy ro save anyone
So much for being super. Notice how MoS is the only movie that receives this much criticisms in the sea of capeshit?

the most far fetched part of Snyder's Superman is the idea that anyone would like him let alone build a monument to him

>>213663061
>too busy ro save anyone
You word-twisting faggot. He was literally saving the world by destroying a terraforming machine.

>>213663034
bvs showed there were still plenty of people trapped under the rubble, in buildings and running in the streets at the midway point of the mos zod fight

>>213663058
Imagine having 2/3 of your fanbase twittards lol

>>213663034
Even when Superman and Zod clashed on the side of the building there were no bodies on the ground where the debris fell. And there were no bodies in the parking garage where all those cars fell. And there was no one at the construction site.
But Gunntards must peddle the narrative that all those places were actually all extremely populated, despite us being able to see, with our eyes, that they weren't.

>>213663034
No they have to hold onto the man of murder narrative. It's all they have left.
>>213663090
>bvs
Reconned because they listened to twitter faggots, disney adults, and basedboys. A fatal mistake.

>>213663013
oooo

>>213663081
>muh saving the world
So did every other capeshit movie ever.

>>213663118
Ahh so it was completely effortless in every movie?

>>213663034
We literally saw cars running around dumbass.

DeSaad, ready the armada, we will use the old ways and liberate this planet from this man of murder

>>213663118
All you're saying here is that Zod's guys were much better at destroying it.

>>213663070
He did save the fucking world. That should count for something, right?

>>213663011
Prattling pretentious drivel saying nothing and random dimly shot screenshots presented as revelatory, the Snyderfag special

>>213663145
Or mos was too shit at his thing.

>>213663047
that he's weaker than Superman 2025

>>213663090
You remember during the Zod fight when Zod cut that building in half and Superman attempted to escape the collapsing building only for Zod to grab him and throw him into the parking garage, effectively incapacitating Superman. Rendering him unable to rescue people from said falling building? Oh wait of course you don't because you watched the movie with your eyes closed.

>>213663146
The entire gunnfag argument is that Superman did absolutely nothing good and absolutely everything bad. Anything that contradicts this, especially scenes from the film itself, doesn't count.

China didn't avoid this movie cause America trade war or what ever mental gymnastic you want to spin, they just thought it was a bad movie.

>>213663171
He is a weaker Superman :)

>>213663173
The whole point of Batman's character in BvS was that he assumed Superman wasn't a good guy and then learning that no, he was actually a really good guy who actually saved the world.
Of course gunnfags don't give a shit. They just want to be right even in the midst of 2025 Superman being a huge flop.

>>213663146
How does Superman get the credit for Perry saving that woman? It's not like Perry wouldn't have tried to save her regardless, and it's not like Perry knows Superman is fighting a machine across the globe right now

>>213663209
>How does Superman get the credit for Perry saving that woman?
He stopped the world engine, which stopped the quakes, which saved the woman and every other survivor.

>>213663058
>I never said that, fag.
Every single time backlash, criticism or negative reactions to Man of Steel is mentioned, you default to "it's all twitter nerds!". That is exactly what you're doing.

>>213663209
>that woman
>comiclet cant recognize genderbent comic characters

>>213663209
Also Perry was holding her hand so she wouldn't die alone. He knew he couldn't save her from gravity shit.

>>213662639
true

>>213663209
>>213663224
This. It's in the fucking movie itself. Perry is trying to save that woman, but she's stuck. He isn't able to rescue her, so he decides to sacrifice his life to stay there with her, so she won't die alone. But Superman is able to stop the DUBSTEP machine and thus both are safe.

>>213661233
>400m reboot
If you have to make shit up to defed your case you've already lost, disneyjeet

>>213663260
Gunnfags have to ignore the entire world engine and what it was doing for their "criticisms" to ever hold water. They'll just ignore it.

i don't know what you people are complaining about Superman does alot to save people from debri and buildings falling in metropolis, this hate is so unwarranted

>>213663176
>>213663205
>>213663281
You gotta expand your vocabulary.

>>213662639
You're literally too dumb for Snyder's DC movies.

>>213663298
lmao
it's even the same screenshot
>>213662946

>$350 million in the US alone
Yep if it wasn't for Trump sharting the movie up (pic related) it could have made a billion easily. The fact that it humilliated the MCU three times is just icing

>>213663298
Are you attempting to present this quote as insightful and complex?

>>213663298
>is it a memory
>is it a ghost
>no it's man of murder
What did he mean by this?

>>213663298
this is why people stopped liking superman

>>213663298
>trying to do the right thing often can have tragic results, but ... you have to try
That's about as Superman as it gets.

>>213663298
>surface level observations presented as stirring insight and philosophy
>dim screenshot usually of someone looking off to the vague distance
Every single Snyderfag post.

>>213663360
oh my GOD
that's so....so....DEEEEEEP!

>>213663336
Yes.

>>213663372
I didn't say it was deep. I said it was Superman. He clearly understood the guy.

>>213663291
i liked when he caught the building and gives that woman a reassuring look, tells her she's gonna be ok and she looks back with teary eyes and smiles as she drives to safety after he saved her

>>213663386
This image represents my cum on Faora actress, by the way.

>>213663363
careful, he's opening his text file of saved blog posts to copypaste

>>213663298
>it's another Zack Sneeder's superman conflicted on whether or not we deserve saving episode

>>213663291
lmao

>>213663430
Do we? Honestly, sometimes i think humanity deserves to die out.

>>213663372
>I'm just as human as evwyon else!
Wow so owignal so not cliche

>>213663494
We don't. You should start by necking yourself

>>213663494
Maybe we do, but he doesn't think so

>>213663548
I don't know, i didn't see this shit ass movie. It looked awful.

>>213663563
it wasn't made for you, it was made for americans and people who like superman

>>213663577
You mean pajeets and pajeets living in America.

>>213663535
You can't go a single post without console war nonsense. Everything is just meaningless us vs them shit, which invalidates any attempt at discourse because it's immediately clear you are motivated by a desire to have your sports team "win" a made up contest rather than actually discuss anything.

>>213663333
>The fact that it humilliated the MCU
snyder could never

>>213663587
Wow, you once again took "Snyderjeet" and went "no u".

>>213663656
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/-ciIMBmR05-YwjK6E2EGsw/

>>213661467
They have completely subsumed their own personality within Snyder and now they themselves as merely an extension of Snyder, thus what they perceive as an attack on him is an attack on them. Of course, their version of Snyder is a completely made up idealized whatever figure, whatever it is they need (friend, father, idol, coach, brother, self-insert, pick one), so really they'll just prattle on about their own made up character whom they identify with entirely.

>>213658943 (OP)
This got the pedos seething
Holy shit what a bomb

>>213663753
how many posts have you made in this thread, anon? 90? 110?

>>213663595
Sure anon

>tried to bash superman 2025
>thread turned into snyder humiliation ritual
Many such case

>>213663778
Why did you automatically respond to that post with an attack on Superman 2025, rather than respond to the criticism of Man of Steel?

>>213663812
:)

>>213663812
Because he's a disney shills and he doesn't give a fuck about MOS (note: no one does)

>>213659014
FPSP
First post shill post
Superman didn't make its money back
Movie's combined budget we know of is $225+200 = 425 millions.
With BO being $580mlns it is massive flop with potential 200-300 millions loss for a studio.
Move to streaming so early confirm these estimations.

>>213664025
excuse me I have a random drab screenshot
this means like Prometheus and all that Greek shit, I never read any of it but I tell others they have to so I sound smarter, like Prometheus was a guy and he was mad at people probably, so that's what we call an "allusion" which is like an illusion but it's spelled with an a like apple, another thing that had an apple was the Bible, and that's another allusion, I've never read that either but it's a pretty big deal so allusions to the Bible are really deep you know, so anyway, this is all symbolizing the very deep moral struggle, his cape is like straight so that's like the line thing around a painting, you know, the doorway but for paintings, whatever it's called, and paintings are really deep, and this is like those, I have a few artbooks I've saved the names of to post and say you have to peruse this to understand the movie, I don't know much about them but I bet they're pretty deep, and also the desert is really flat here, which is like Krypton being gone, it's like flat, lined, lined, see like the lined painting thing I said above, and also like flatlined like dead, that's a play on words see, it's clever, only Snyder could think of playing on words, he invented the camera, and if you think about how Superman is standing up here, it's like he's standing up in a philosophical way, like the way those statues of famous guys with Greek names stand up, there's like books with their names and that makes it really meaningful, see no other movie out there can do this kind of deep underlying message in every frame. Frame, that's it, the painting doorway, it's a frame. So like frame is the real meaning here. Frames are straight. Pluto was a Greek guy that wrote about lighting fires in caves. I know that one. He wrote that fire is like man's hubris and putting it in a cave is like a house. Fire like Krypton when it blew up, there was loads of fire. And in Metropolis, you didn't get it, but all the fire was mankind.

>>213664025
>has double the audience of Superman 2025
Uh huh.