>>213661200
you cant argue with meat-eaters because eating meat has been sold to them as the pinnacle of manliness by decades of advertisement, and millenia of Meat being the more expensive, tastier, healthy alternative to inexpensive grains and gruel. When they think "eating meat" the first image that comes to mind is a buff lumberjack eating a big steak, so they adopt the unbothered macho persona and ignore all rationale and argumentation to affirm that they are in fact the big cool lumberjack and you the little basedboy vegan one million and one mockeries are told about every single day. They might even throw in "yea but factory farming is messed up or whatever" but they will never bring it up or criticise the industry in any other context to not arise suspicion to others that they might be a vegan basedboy. itt you can see the many gentile golems of the meat industry parrot the same catchphrases, thinking, in their minds, "I might be taking the side of backroom baby calf castrations, mass torture of innocent animals and multitrillion dollar companies in this argument, but at least, for this moment, i am the big, strong, cool lumberjack". In fact, they "get off" on it. by ignoring the animals' pain they reinforce their persona by showcasing a kind of unfeeling and utilitarian stoicism. Murder, savagery and suffering are all natural after all, thus, by defending the industrialized hellish pocket dimension that trillions of animals are born into each year, which never experience a droplet of the environment they evolved to inhabit, they are taking part in a "natural" process, just as the lumberjack would not care if he is hurting the forests in his trade. the idea that meat bad is as sacrilegious to them as the holocaust not being real, and even when they discover the latter as most in this thread probably have they will still suffer the effects of the conditioning imposed on them to maintain the former, as it runs even deeper and runs the gamut of human culture.