Thread 213673013

RATE MONARCH - LOM - SEASON 1!
https://strawpoll.com/GeZAOdeGRnV

What do you want in S2?

>>213673013 (OP)
>What do you want in S2?
More Anna Sawai

King of the monsters was kino
>b-but
shut the fuck up

>>213673013 (OP)
The problem with this show is it’s a tv show and has a low budget per episode so you only get kaiju scenes for 3/10 episodes. Surf Dracula treatment personified.

>>213673032
She is the least likable member of the cast. Her character is moderately sympathetic but is shown to have been toxic well before her trauma.
The other youth cast members aren't as bad as some say but still far less interesting than the 50s team.

>>213673013 (OP)
But what does he eat

>>213673013 (OP)
>10 hours of show
>10 minutes of monsters

>>213673013 (OP)
MONARCH is worth watching if you liked Godzilla 2014. Much more of that style and tone.
The 1950s time frame is solid.
Both Russells are good.
So is the 50s freckled Asian.
Some great CGI at times.
And late in the series it has easily the best emotional moment or the monsterverse.

>>213673032
>>213673123
People will scream about her being a lesbian but such is only really relevant for like 3 scenes max.

I won't lie it was overall a disappointment as it was by far my most hyped up project at the time but I firmly believe it is decent at the very worst.

It's biggest problem is one the Netflix Marvel shows had which was too many episodes and too much filler while underusing the 1950s portion. They should have had some more contained X-Files/Godzilla the series style monster of the week episodes with the 1950s cast to further break up the dragged out modern storyline.

>>213673032
>>213673283
I fine with her being a lesbian. My problems with that aspect's execution are the following...

> When they reveal that she is they have her & her lover coming out of a coffee shop with a giant rainbow flag at it's entrance& then go into a school with a giant PRIDE message on the steps.

> The show goes out of its way to condemn cheaters but then it's apparently implied near the end that Kate will cuck her own brother by hooking up with the black slampig and that such is a good thing.

>>213673084
>King of the monsters was kino
Fucking based.

KOTM

PROS
> Up until his fight with Ghidorah this is the most powerful / menacing / badass Rodan has been since 1956 & his design is very good.
> Godzilla still looks fantastic (2nd best G design ever IMO) as he did in 2014 which is even improved upon here with the more classic spines after his power up.
> Opening with the Mothra larva is fun.
> Mothra's adult form is great (but overly small)
> Ghidorah looks basically perfect.
> Vastly more monster screen time & fight scenes than 2014.
> Vastly better lighting than 2014.
> Some fantastic moments showing off a sense of scale (the moment of Ghidorah rearing back to blast MBB in the stadium a final time was breath taking in theaters)
> Good overall cast.
> Good score.

MIXED ELEMENTS
> Tone is largely about right, more serious than not. A few cringy jokes but not even close to as many as haters claim. The Gonorrhea line is the worst & nothing else comes close.
> Giving Serizawa the Bryan Cranston treatment, that said his sacrifice is beautifully done.
> Kyle Chandler is very generic but fine here and is IMO better than Aaron Taylor Johnson in 2014.
> Charles Dance was a great villain choice but is notably underused (still better used than the villains in GVK)
> Ken Watanabe, Vera Farmiga & MBB put in good performances but needed to have been given more to do. The focus should have been on them & not Kyle Chandler.

>>213673084
>>213673717
KOTM

CONS / NITPICKS
> Did not like Sally Hawkins being abruptly killed off & especially not in this manner where we could not even see who had been killed until we saw Serizawa mourning in the next scene.
> Too much rain, haze & murkiness (not nearly as bad as haters claim)
> The Ghidorah vs Rodan fight was too one sided & was barely shown and what we did get was the worst victim of the murky rain in the film. Should have had Rodan using his superior maneuverability / speed to hold Ghidorah off for a bit.
> They seemed to have shortened Godzilla's tail from 2014.
> Emma's motives / goals are moderately under explained.
> Sam Coleman is a completely pointless awkward character.

>>213673153
>>213673153
>>213673153
Bump

>>213673717
>>213673772
Agreed on all. Sally's death was a wtf moment.
I'd add that I loved that big ass plane and when Rhodan's pursuing them. Especially when he spins and wrecks like all of the jets.
I didn't like the oxygen destroyer bomb, it was so generic. A huge ass laser or ion or whatever the fuck sci-fi cannon mounted on a big ass tank or battleship would have been cooler. In general I want to see more sci-fi looking tanks in the series.

>>213674939
>I'd add that I loved that big ass plane
...because while humans still didn't stand a chance they could at least properly join the fight.

>>213674999
>>213674999
>>213674999
Bump

>>213673013 (OP)
> MONARCH
> doesn't even have a Wikipedia page

I'm guessing there won't be a season 2?...

>>213676102
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarch:_Legacy_of_Monsters

Yes it will Amber Midthunder (Prey) has been cast.

>>213676208
>>213676208
>>213676208
Bump

>>213673032
>More Anna Sawai
Maybe 'more' of her as in she wears less clothes and thus we see more of her. Otherwise, goddamn her character was an annoying bitch. Put that lesbianness to use and give us a sex scene or something, ffs.

>>213677342
>>213677342
>>213677342
Bump

>>213678544
Severely mixed feelings.

> 2000 being that high is fucking based.

> Shin being that mid is also based.

> 1985 & Biollante being that low is absolutely reprehensible.

> The monsterverse movies being on the same level as & behind the anime trilogy is unfathomably psychotic.

>>213678863
It's arranged by how often I feel like watching them again not by their implicit quality(or lack...).

>>213673032
Fippitybippity
If she doesn't get 50% screentime I'm out

>>213673123
>She's toxic
Please go back to the r-slur you came from

>>213673084
King of the monsters is trash.

>>213673013 (OP)
AppleTV is Satan worship central processing, edging out even Netflix and Amazon and HBO. I'm not being facetious, I'm serious.

>>213679362
Bad Bait

>>213676102
I mean the second season will be ape-heavy so might as well not exist. Kong fatigue is real.

monsterverse is goyslop

>>213679631
I don't know what you're trying to say but Wingard is gone you can stop.

So, my take away from my circle of friends was it was weak. Not enough monster stuff, and generally the modern time period characters and story sucked compared to the past. Does that sound about right?

>>213679904
It's mediocre. Some worldbuilding is fine. Both Russells are really great. the Castle Bravo scene and actually all Godzilla scenes aside from the first one are solid. But in the middle it spends too much time with the least interesting characters and some of these guys just do things that prevent us from ever liking them.

>>213673013 (OP)
>What do you want in S2?
To cancel it.

>>213679833
>I don't know what you're trying to say
Dreidelwood has never made a good Godzilla property. Not once.

>>213673013 (OP)
>What do you want in S2?
actual monsters