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Anonymous No.213673638 >>213676769 >>213677042 >>213678447 >>213679579 >>213679624 >>213679650 >>213680005 >>213684499 >>213686226 >>213686365
The math doesn't lie but gunnscum do
>OH MY SCIENCE SUPERPEDO IS MUCH BETTER RECEIVED BY GENERAL AUDIENCES! YAAAAASS SSSLAAAAAY!!
Heh. Sure. Meanwhile in reality:
>MOS 75% audience score on 250k reviews
>Superman something like 90% on 25k reviews
>critica/audience scores always drop as more and more coming
>Superman will be 55-60% audience score if it also had 250k reviews
Anonymous No.213674526
40000th Snyderjeet seethe thread award
Anonymous No.213674602
>another threads coping about supertrans beating three mcu movies
Move on you fucking jeet god DAMN
Anonymous No.213674653 >>213683551
Let's see Rebel Moon's RT score.
Anonymous No.213675072 >>213675126 >>213675227
Reminder that both Snyder's and Gunn's capeslop flopped.
>but if you look at inflatio-
Look at the context, the dates of release to be more specific. When Man of Steel aired normies were obsessed with capeshit because of MCU's success. This hype indirectly carried everything that wore a cape, Snyder included (his movies are still a flop when compared to Marvel though). Now the capeshit hype is pretty much dead and normies are fed up with super heroes.
My point is, if Supeslop 2025 had been released 10 years ago it would have definitively performed way better. And Snyder worse if he had made his movies today.
Anonymous No.213675126 >>213682556
>>213675072
>My point is, if Supeslop 2025 had been released 10 years ago it would have definitively performed way better.
You are a filthy liar and I should rape you
Anonymous No.213675215 >>213675372
MOS would’ve bombed in today’s landscape. The terrible reviews and word of mouth, people would’ve skipped it and waited for it to be dumped on HBO Max. At best it would be doing F4 numbers since F4 had a similar drop. Though F4 has a loyal MCU fan base and got better reviews
Anonymous No.213675227 >>213675372 >>213675433 >>213675566
>>213675072
>When Man of Steel aired normies were obsessed with capeshit because of MCU's success
The TDK trilogy was also incredibly popular/successful, MoS came right on its heels and had Nolan as producer directly working on the film, and even selecting Zack. That was the goodwill MoS had going into release and it massively underperformed expectations.

SM25 has to paddle uphill to attempt to reverse decades of shitty WB DC movies and set a new positive starting point with credibility. I think they succeeded at this, though I'm sure they wish the critical acclaim and audience enthusiasm translated to more people in theaters. I think a lot of people are going to see in on streaming and the sequel will be the real smash hit, kind of like Batman begins into TDK.
Anonymous No.213675372 >>213675395
>>213675215
I literally debunked these evil claims by proving MoS has a superior audience reception.
>>213675227
No Gunn had every advantage in the world, the climate was legitimately hostile in 2013 you cunt
Anonymous No.213675384
give it a rest
Anonymous No.213675395 >>213675438
>>213675372
>the climate was legitimately hostile
Can't even imagine what mental gymnastics cope you have to jump through to make this make sense to yourself. 2013 was an absolutely prime time for superhero movies, and even DC had a well received brand at that point.
Anonymous No.213675433 >>213675468
>>213675227
Doing the math, SM25 has less than HALF the ticket sales of MoS. The only reason SM25 is even close to MoS's box-office is because theatre ticket prices have gone retarded and almost doubled. The so-called popularity and success of SM25 is a complete farce, a fucking PSYOP, to be exact.
Anonymous No.213675438 >>213675470 >>213677024 >>213679155 >>213679287
>>213675395
It was prime for MARVEL. DC was facing an uphill battle in a Marvel-brainwashed environment and Zack had a reputation as an auteur and cinema back then was far more hostile to auteurs
Anonymous No.213675468 >>213675596 >>213675672
>>213675433
So doesn't it stand to reason far more people would have purchased tickets if they were less expensive?
Anonymous No.213675470 >>213675642
>>213675438
>DC was facing an uphill battle
what year did TDKR come out and how much money did it make
Anonymous No.213675500
With exception of americans the global audience just isn't looking for a goofy, childish, cartoon-like DC output. For better or worse, that's just not what their expectation of it is. It'll be all downhill from here commercially especially since the domestic overperformance caused by political factors is a fickle thing.
Anonymous No.213675566
>>213675227
I blame 3 franchises for the explotion of capeshit
>Raimi movies
>TDK
>Xmen
Anonymous No.213675596 >>213675672
>>213675468
I dunno. Would supply and demand principles apply to movies? Are theatre seats a commodity?
Anonymous No.213675642 >>213675693
>>213675470
compare an apple to an apple
Anonymous No.213675672
>>213675468
>>213675596
And to answer my own question, no, o don't think more people go to see a movie just because it cheaper. Because the movie is not food or toilet paper, it's a product/service that requires a substantial amount of your time to engage in what you paid for. Even if a movie was $1, people still have to sit there for 2-3 hours to "consume" it just one single time.
Anonymous No.213675693 >>213675719
>>213675642
I'm comparing a DC movie with Nolan's name on it to a DC movie from a year later with Nolan's name on it
Anonymous No.213675719 >>213675844
>>213675693
the comparison should quite clearly be uperman returns
Anonymous No.213675844 >>213675882
>>213675719
why do you feel it is not comparable to the Nolan DC movie from a year prior (other than cope)
Anonymous No.213675882 >>213675989
>>213675844
because batman is not superman
Anonymous No.213675989
>>213675882
and yet cope remains cope
Anonymous No.213676348 >>213676431 >>213676767 >>213676875 >>213677982
Snyderfags are so delusional it's unreal. Reminder that most people here are too young to clearly remember the capeshit landscape in 2013.

>TDK was insanely popular in 2008, being called one of the best movies off all time
>2008 was also the year that Iron Man came out and the MCU was a complete unknown
>Fast forward to 2012
>Nolan was fed up with doing Batman movies so he half-assed TDKR by making a joke movie using plot from Schumacher and 60s batman. He "killed" Batman and tried to replace him with JGL (lol)
>Avengers comes out after a short run of MCU movies. Now the MCU is a thing and is popular
>Snyder whiffed Watchmen in 2009 and was on a bad run by 2012 with Sucker Punch and cartoon Owl movie. He was was only still around because he did producer work and his wife worked for Warner Bros
>Man of Steel was announced and Snyder was attached because he was cheap. It was his last gig. They had such little faith that they attached Nolan as co-director to assure fans. The movie was advertised as being a Nolan-heavy project in the vein of Batman Begins
>2013, Man of Steel comes out and does okay but is the box office runt of capeshit. Most of the positivity comes from it being restrained and gritty, aka aping Nolan's style, not Snyder's. Marvel is coming off an Avengers win and already doing more universe-building.

Snyderfags will have you only focus on Man of Steel in order to compare apples-to-apples with Gunnman. But it's not apples-to-apples since Nolan had to babysit Snyder and use his own brand to promote the movie. Gunn completely dropped all previous DCU style and branding.

To get a sense of a Superman movie without Nolan's hand you simply have to look at the widely panned and flop - Batman v Superman. That's pure Snyder and it blows. Gunnman is much better than BvS. Snyder almost killed the DCU which is why they brought Whedon (again, another director having to clean up Snyder's diaper) from the MCU.
Anonymous No.213676431 >>213676611 >>213676827
>>213676348
Ok fairpoint but what does this have to do with Gunn's Superman sucking ass?
Anonymous No.213676505
>SM25: immediately greenlit for sequel
>Murderman: no sequel ever
any questions?
Anonymous No.213676611 >>213676920 >>213682389
>>213676431
sure, let's talk about that
Anonymous No.213676767
>>213676348
>They had such little faith that they attached Nolan as co-director to assure fans. The movie was advertised as being a Nolan-heavy project in the vein of Batman Begins
Back in 2012/13, the YouTube comments for trailers were PRAISE NOLAN this, ALL HAIL NOLAN that, etc. It's very ironic that Zack has an intense fandom but back in 2013, he, the fucking director, was treated like some irrelevancy
Anonymous No.213676769
>>213673638 (OP)
Anonymous No.213676827 >>213676907 >>213681995
>>213676431
The narrative that snyderfags want to build is that the DCU was doing well and beloved before WB interfered in Justice League. They interfered because of Snyder. The Syndercut was just as baffling and awful as Whedon's version. Gunnman is better quality than both the Snydercut and the Whedoncut.

As for financials, we are almost 20 years removed from the beginning of the current capeshit trend. It's a completely different macoeconomic environment. Movies as a whole are dying and there is capeshit fatigue. This is wildly different than what Snyder had handed to him in 2009, 2013, and 2016. He was given much more scope than Gunn to be successful and he failed multiple times.
Anonymous No.213676875 >>213676933
>>213676348
>Gunn completely dropped all previous DCU style and branding.
James Gunn is banking on his own name, with the entire industry treating him as some visionary auteur and the next Kevin Feige. He's coming off hot after the Guardians of the Galaxy trilogy, and he pretty much made a Superman movie that follows all the fucking formula MCU and Gunn is known for.
Anonymous No.213676907
>>213676827
For as much as Snyder's stuff is called gritty and realistic, I do not agree. Like in BvS Superman has a statue dedicated to him - that always puzzled me because realistically Superman would be such a controversial figure that dedicating a huge monument in the wake of something as traumatic as what we were shown in MoS (not that you'd ever know based on the happy go lucky ending of MoS in the same city) would have been a non-starter
Anonymous No.213676920 >>213676942 >>213676980
>>213676611
Look up the score inflation on sites like RT. Is everything released in recent years truly of superb quality? Or is it the result of platform changes and political polarization?
Anonymous No.213676933 >>213676988 >>213677017
>>213676875
I'm not going to glaze James Gunn here, I don't think his movies are anything amazing, but he is one of the only capeshit directors in 20 some odd years of this capeshit culture dump who does have a very clear and recognizable filmmaking style and voice. Auteur is a strong word for it but he certainly has an artistic vision, unlike most of the tv directors that don't even get any say in the editing of their own movies in the MCU these days.
Anonymous No.213676942
>>213676920
Every Gunn movie and project is well received
Anonymous No.213676980
>>213676920
Ok let's see how DC movies in the years leading up to MoS were doing on sites like RT just so we have a more fair comparison
Anonymous No.213676988 >>213677038 >>213677886
>>213676933
The point is that James Gunn should be a draw, in and of itself, same way Christopher Nolan was back then. There isn't a capeshit fatigue. There is a bad capeshit fatigue. Wolverine and Deadpool made a billy not so long ago, and mostly because it poke fun at how bad the MCU movies have gotten.
Gunn poised himself as not only this great capeshit director, same as Nolan was back then, but the next Feige, which should carry some weight. WB was expecting this to be a homerun, but it isn't.
Anonymous No.213677017 >>213677045 >>213677106
>>213676933
He isn’t pretentious trying to use capeshit IPs to sell their own bullshit. Look at The Joker. We all know that movie was a massive rip off of better movies like Taxi Driver and King of Comedy. If that movie didn’t have Joker name attached to it and wasn’t just called The Clon, it wouldn’t have made even close to a billion. Even The Batman just Reeves trying to turn it into s7even
Anonymous No.213677024 >>213677103
>>213675438
>DC was facing an uphill battle
ah yes, fresh off two back to back billion dollar Batman films, such an uphill battle
meanwhile Thor and Captain America were just such smooth sailing, right?
Anonymous No.213677038 >>213677079
>>213676988
I think his name is a draw, but you have to factor in the fact that the IPs he's now making movies under have been dragged through the mud for 12 years and tainted. He has to contend with wiping people's palate's clean of that too.
Anonymous No.213677042 >>213677094
>>213673638 (OP)
Snyder was succesfull only by proxy as Nolan had done all the hard lifting with his Batman trilogy.
Anonymous No.213677045
>>213677017
The Batman is far more gothic than Se7en.
Anonymous No.213677079 >>213677120 >>213677152
>>213677038
>He has to contend with wiping people's palate's clean of that too
We're talking about movie that had great RT scores here. Remember those?
Weren't they supposed to be THE palate cleanser? Not to mention that his own movie follows the same formula. To a T.
Anonymous No.213677094
>>213677042
It's actually remarkable how quick Snyder shat up the DC brand and made them a joke coming off of the cultural phenoms that were the Nolan batman movies
Anonymous No.213677103 >>213677436
>>213677024
>ah yes, fresh off two back to back billion dollar Batman films, such an uphill battle
And people were expecting more of the same Batman, and they weren't going to get it.
See what happened to those The Amazing Spider-Man movies.
Anonymous No.213677106 >>213677138
>>213677017
I don't agree on Batman, it is very much a Batman film. That it's gritty and takes a few cues from Fincher is not enough for me to consider it the same as Joker. Reeves clearly adores the character in a way Nolan did not.
Anonymous No.213677120 >>213677161
>>213677079
>Weren't they supposed to be THE palate cleanser?
what the fuck are you even talking about at this stage? which ones? why?
Anonymous No.213677138 >>213678273
>>213677106
I believe Reeves would make Batman films for the rest of his life if he could.
Nolan couldn't wait to get out of there. His discordant style across the trilogy makes it evident.
Anonymous No.213677152
>>213677079
I mean a few of those movies actually were genuinely good (The Flash, the first Shazam movie, the Suicide Squad) but the damage was done at that point and they were saddled with versions of the big draw heroes that were panned by critics and audiences.
Anonymous No.213677161 >>213677202 >>213677452 >>213677634
>>213677120
I am talking about all the DCEU movies that were made specifically to be as close as they possible could, content and style wise, to the MCU capeshit movies, and that had great critics score.
Anonymous No.213677202 >>213677224
>>213677161
Like Aquaman?
Anonymous No.213677224
>>213677202
More specifically the second one, yeah, which went through rewrites under Gunn's hands.
Anonymous No.213677436 >>213677502 >>213682127 >>213682548
>>213677103
They had Nolan fresh off the biggest superhero trilogy in history, only equaled by the Spider-Man trilogy, and sold Man of Steel as being "Nolan Batman, but for Superman", with his name plastered all over it despite him being the producer and not the director. Now, Sucker Punch was absolute garbage, and 300 was memed up and successful but a rather polarizing film, but Watchmen was about as well received as an adaptation of a very dense work that had resisted multiple attempts to adapt it for decades, so the notion was that Snyder could do "good visuals and action", and if given a good script and supervision, should be good, and Nolan would take care of all that part. Snyder was not part of the big hype for Man of Steel, it was Nolan all the way. There was some trepidation over the helmer of 300 and Watchmen doing Superman as many fans didn't want a gritty realistic Superman trying to be dark and edgy, but plenty of others were worshipping the ground Nolan walked on at this stage. Green Lantern was a flop but it was seen as being an inferior copy of Iron Man, not Nolanesque.

The idea that Snyder was in some tough climate is absolute nonsense. It was Marvel that were in a tough period, with no access to Spider-Man or X-Men, their two most famous properties, and having to make do with less well known heroes in Iron Man, Thor, Captain America (with its own concerns), and trying to do what had not been done before and adapt a shared comic book universe to film. How does Iron Man in its grounded tone exist at the same time as Thor? This was an overwhelming concern back then. Even the super team of the Avengers was far less well known than Justice League, thanks to the various cartoons. Hell I thought of that shitty Uma Thurman movie first. And it's not like Thor and Cap 1 blew the roof off the box office, they did ok, at best. Incredible Hulk didn't do well at all.

That The Avengers exploded at the box office was not what people were predicting in 2011.
Anonymous No.213677452 >>213677533
>>213677161
>to the MCU capeshit movies,
Hello
Anonymous No.213677502 >>213677728
>>213677436
You're ignoring the fact that James Gunn now is a known quantity, and that he sold himself as the next capeshit auteur and Kevin Feige. He should have made a billy, easily. He's supposed to be the next poster boy. What happened here?
Anonymous No.213677533
>>213677452
>home is calling
>actual color
In the end, MCUslop was what keeping DCEU alive.
Anonymous No.213677634 >>213682193
>>213677161
Ok let's examine this claim
>Shazam: Barely, if you count having a lot of comedy, I guess, but it was mostly much smaller scale than MCU films were by the mid to late 2010s
>Birds of Prey: Not in the slightest bit MCU. R rated and going for a hyperactive quirk chungus style not found in the MCU
>WW84: Not remotely MCU. A shitty and bizarre followup to one of the DCEU's few big successes.
>The Suicide Squad: R rated, much more downbeat in tone. Just because it has Gunn doesn't mean it's Marvel.
>Batgirl: Literally never came out
>Black Adam: Not at all MCU styled, in fact that it seemed very dated was noted, it felt very late 2000s or early 2010s at the most. Everything about it seemed out of date.
>Shazam 2: Didn't see it
>The Flash: It's a cartoon, I guess, but it still doesn't feel much like the MCU, it's just a jumbled mess of ideas stemming from its endless stop start production
>Blue Beetle: Didn't see it
>Aquaman 2: Didn't see it

You very strangely seem to have left out Aquaman, the most in-line with the MCU sensibilities of light hearted action and comedy. You included the sequel, but not the first one. Explain.
Anonymous No.213677728 >>213678142
>>213677502
>that he sold himself as the next capeshit auteur and Kevin Feige
Yeah you keep saying that. It doesn't really mean anything. You're just proclaiming shit without any basis.
>it should make a billy easy!
It's not easy to "make a billy". Especially in 2025. Only ONE film has done it, Lilo & Stitch. This is not 2018.
Anonymous No.213677883
It won't matter anyway. The truth is there's no future in a creative direction that's nothing more than an incestuous fan boy circle jerk. Just have to wait it out. Luckily when it comes to Transformers at least that time already seems to be here. Can't wait for you autists and the media/critic class to start screeching again and play your pathetic little games to poison the well. :)
Anonymous No.213677886 >>213678095
>>213676988
> Wolverine and Deadpool made a billy not so long ago

If you don’t think Deadpool being teamed up with the insanely popular Jackman’s Wolverine has anything to do with that, you’re a moron. No caprshit character on their own is going to be huge outside Spider-Man, and he’s even being teamed up. Why Gunn is building up to a Superman-Supergirl team up
Anonymous No.213677982
>>213676348
I think Snyder completely fucked up with MoS but started to figure it with BvS before nailing it with JL.
Anonymous No.213678095 >>213678295
>>213677886
>If you don’t think Deadpool being teamed up with the insanely popular Jackman’s Wolverine has anything to do with that
ONCE AGAIN JAMES GUNN WAS TREATED BY EVERYONE IN THE INDUSTRY AS THE GUY THAT CAN DO NO WRONG, AS THE GUY THAT WILL MAKE THE SUPERMAN EVERYONE WAITED FOR.

Not to mention that not all Wolverine movies made good money. If anything, the X-Men movies are generally seen as a failure.
Anonymous No.213678142 >>213679217
>>213677728
>Only ONE film has done it, Lilo & Stitch. This is not 2018.
Shouldn't, you know, Krypto attract the same type of audience?
Anonymous No.213678273
>>213677138
Yeah, he loves it so much it's taken him 3 years to finish a script
Anonymous No.213678295 >>213678324 >>213679260
>>213678095
Jackman’s Wolverine is extremely popular and why he’s been Wolverine for almost 25 years. No Deadpool movie ever made a billion. Spider-Man is being teamed up. That’s the model now to sell big. Outside Spider Man, days of capeshit selling a billion on their own is over. The Batman 2 will not make a billion. At best it will do slightly better then the first
Anonymous No.213678324 >>213678538 >>213679239
>>213678295
The Superman movie was filled with superheroes and it didn't make a billy.
Not all Wolverine movie made that kind of movie, the Fox's X-Men movies were in a dump with most of them being seen as failures, and Deadpool was in an upward trend.
Anonymous No.213678353 >>213678495
I like the Snyder movies, they’re fun in their own way. But I also like what Gunn did with the character and I’m excited to see what the future holds for the brand. The only critic worth listening to is my penis
Anonymous No.213678447
>>213673638 (OP)
David Ayer suicide squad when?
Anonymous No.213678495 >>213682244
>>213678353
Everyone likes the new Superman movie more. Anyone who actually understands Superman and likes Superman likes the new Superman movie more.
The people that make these threads and that will never shut the fuck up about Snyder are actual shit skins or like 90 Iq rednecks
The only reason Snyder's movie made more anyways because of the marketing and the fact that snyder would shove in all these products into his movies so that it would make more money because he's a shallow retard. That's why he wouldn't shut the fuck up about Turkish airlines.
Anonymous No.213678538 >>213678568
>>213678324
Logan mad 619 million. Deadpool 2 made 785 million. Join the two and wow it makes over billion. It’s not rocket science here
Anonymous No.213678568 >>213679083
>>213678538
I guess then DC shouldn't have rebooted, huh?
Anonymous No.213679083
>>213678568
Entirely different model now. Steaming is the future and Covid just accelerated it. Why Disney and the WB went to war against Netflix so they could try to be the top dog and got their asses kicked, costing them both a fortune
Anonymous No.213679111
does anyone have this image in better quality?
Anonymous No.213679155
>>213675438
>Zack had a reputation as an auteur and cinema back then was far more hostile to auteurs
Anonymous No.213679217
>>213678142
Are you stupid? Lilo & Stitch, more specifically Stitch, has been a massive Disney character for kids and adults for twenty years, he's a merch mover like few others. It wasn't a shock that Lilo & Stitch was a hit, it's a Disney film that audiences of today actually have an attachment to. Unlike say Snow White which is nearly a hundred years old now and is mainly known for its historical significance more than personal fondness, never mind the controversy around casting and visuals that marred it.
Anonymous No.213679239 >>213679283
>>213678324
>The Superman movie was filled with superheroes
It was not a "crossover" movie. The other superheroes were just Superman's supporting cast the same way Lois and Jimmy are Clark's.
Anonymous No.213679260 >>213679531
>>213678295
>No Deadpool movie ever made a billion
oh well geez better hang it up then, it was only the highest grossing R rated film in history
Anonymous No.213679283 >>213679304 >>213679336 >>213679404 >>213679507
>>213679239
They weren't Superman supporting cast. They are known heroes with their own comics and everything. This was a teamup movie.
Anonymous No.213679287
>>213675438
Utterly divorced from reality.
Anonymous No.213679304 >>213679321
>>213679283
No, it wasn't.
Anonymous No.213679312 >>213679506
Zack Snyder has never made a good movie.
Anonymous No.213679321
>>213679304
Yes, it was. Superman v Green Lantern v Hawkgirl.
Anonymous No.213679336 >>213679411
>>213679283
>They are known heroes with their own comics and everything.
You mean, like Jimmy Olsen?
Anonymous No.213679404
>>213679283
Lois AND Jimmy have their own comics. Are you claiming it was a "teamup" with Superman and Lois?
Anonymous No.213679411 >>213679454 >>213679523 >>213679568
>>213679336
No, like:

Engineer from the highly rated Authority.
Green Lantern from the Green Lantern and Green Lantern Corps.
Hawkgirl from Hawkman, JLA, and JSA.
Mister Terrific from JSA and Terrifics.
Metamorpho from JLA and Terrifics.
Anonymous No.213679454 >>213679535
>>213679411
What do you mean no? Jimmy Olsen has decades of comics. By your definition, it is a teamup if Jimmy Olsen is in the movie.
Anonymous No.213679506
>>213679312
The only good Snyder movie was written by James Gunn
Anonymous No.213679507 >>213679535
>>213679283
That isn't how teamups work.
You don't introduce the characters "teaming up" in the same movie, that makes no sense. A teamup is supposed to be a crossover between two already established characters. Like Deadpool and Wolverine. It's the entire reason Avengers worked, it was a teamup between characters from four different films, something that hadn't been seen in superhero movies before, only comic books.
Anonymous No.213679523
>>213679411
>um it was literally a teamup movie to boost superman's star power because there were tons of literal whos in it!
what does it even gain you to be this disingenuous
Anonymous No.213679531 >>213679564
>>213679260
I didn’t say Deadpool wasn’t a success. I taking to anon stand Deadpool-Wolverine is proof capeshit is still the same post Covid. It isn’t. The Batman, DC biggest character, won’t make a billion on his own. So expecting Superman to even come close is ridiculous. If Gunn’s plan is successful, Supergirl will be a modest hit at 500 million. A team up maybe get 850 million tops
Anonymous No.213679535 >>213679929
>>213679454
Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane are part of the Superman IP, the other characters aren't.
>>213679507
It was a teamup movie. Blame Gunn for starting the first movie with a teamup movie.
Anonymous No.213679564 >>213679815
>>213679531
>The Batman, DC biggest character, won’t make a billion on his own.
Maybe because the movie fucking sucked.
Anonymous No.213679568 >>213679661 >>213679695
>>213679411
>Green Lantern from the Green Lantern and Green Lantern Corps.
Which one?
Was it Hal Jordan, John Stewart or even Kyle Rayner? No, it was fuckin Guy Gardner, the least well known modern Green Lantern, mainly known for being a jackass supporting character. What was his role in this movie? A jackass supporting character.

Was it Shayera, the Hawkgirl known from the Justice League cartoon? No, it was Kendra Saunders, the less well known one who only appeared in one season of Legends of Tomorrow in adaptations.
Anonymous No.213679579
>>213673638 (OP)
The face of a man who wins
Anonymous No.213679624
>>213673638 (OP)
What makes Superman a pedophile in the new movie?
Anonymous No.213679650
>>213673638 (OP)
>uh....uuuhhh....uuuh....*is 5"7" feet*....uuuh....*casts only people taller than him to play his homosexual gods....uuuh....uuuh...*has no jaw so he covers it with a shit beard...uuuuuuhhhh....batman prison rape....uuuuuhhhhh....*SQUIRT SQUIRT SQUIRT....Cavill....uh.....asspads...
Anonymous No.213679661
>>213679568
>No, it was fuckin Guy Gardner
More popular than Kyle Rayner, by far, and maybe even more than Hal Jordan.
Anonymous No.213679695
>>213679568
>Was it Shayera, the Hawkgirl known from the Justice League cartoon? No, it was Kendra Saunders, the less well known one who only appeared in one season of Legends of Tomorrow in adaptations.
Nobody cares about her name, just the title. They see Hawkgirl, the look, the mace, and get giddy because it is the character they remember from the cartoons.
Anonymous No.213679815 >>213679857
>>213679564
No it didn't, and are you claiming only good movies make a billion dollars now?
Anonymous No.213679857
>>213679815
It fucking sucked.
The Batman made less because it sucked, Superman flopped because it sucked. That's it.
Anonymous No.213679929 >>213679965
>>213679535
I agree with the other anon, what is the point of this shitty routine?
Anonymous No.213679965 >>213679991 >>213680577
>>213679929
The point is that this Superman isn't just a solo movie focused on Superman and his characters, like MoS was, but rather a teamup movie meant to kick-start the new DCU filled with other known heroes from the comics, even if normies don't know most of them, and that work as teaser for all the future movies and TV shows. It is pretty much BvS.
Anonymous No.213679991 >>213682340
>>213679965
>and his characters, like MoS was
lmao
the most nothing Lois Lane of all time and he tries to claim it was "focused on his characters"
Anonymous No.213680005 >>213680246
>>213673638 (OP)
It isn't even close.
Man of Steel had almost double the ticket sales of Superman.
Anonymous No.213680099
that's the cope now? rotten tomatoes scores? the same site that keeps rise of skywalker at an 87?
Anonymous No.213680246 >>213681997
>>213680005
This is the key right here to end all these silly debates. How many TICKETS! Not the box office, how many BUTTS got into SEATS and saw the fucking movie!
Anonymous No.213680577
>>213679965
No one buys that you believe this. You don't even buy it. So what's the point? You're just wasting your own time pretending.
Anonymous No.213681217 >>213681225 >>213681499 >>213681616
Anonymous No.213681225
>>213681217
box status:unable to check
Anonymous No.213681499
>>213681217
>the most smug sunglasses picture of Zack Snyder available looks like a weird elderly man being tortured
always get a chuckle out of this
Anonymous No.213681616
>>213681217
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/TyI2oADzH-iJZrVWLzMDPQ/
Anonymous No.213681995
>>213676827
>The Syndercut was just as baffling and awful as Whedon's version
And other lies you tell yourself.
Anonymous No.213681997
>>213680246
>eh I already have the streaming service and it costs double it did 12 years ago, i'll wait
Anonymous No.213682127 >>213682215 >>213682255 >>213682362
>>213677436
MoS came out after the Avengers, you sperg. Iron Man 3 made a billie, Marvel were no longer underdogs.
Anonymous No.213682193
>>213677634
What about Josstice League?
Anonymous No.213682215 >>213682384
>>213682127
Oh I see, so in the spam of five months, somehow the entire landscape changed and now the "climate" was somehow hostile towards poor Zack Snyder and his Christopher Nolan produced movie with a trillion dollar marketing campaign.

The long years of billion dollar success for DC's Batman films on which they were modelling Man of Steel down to the title, they simply ceased to exist, and suddenly the 150 million or whatever it was that Incredible Hulk grossed, that's basically bigger than Titanic.
Anonymous No.213682244 >>213682270 >>213682307
>>213678495
>Everyone likes the new Superman movie more. Anyone who actually understands Superman and likes Superman likes the new Superman movie more.
Isn't what he was talking about retard-kun. You have to pointlessly antagonize snyderfags because they rightfully shat on the new movie's goofy trailers?
Anonymous No.213682255
>>213682127
>Marvel were no longer underdogs.
You know what else made a billie? The Dark Knight Rises. Much like The Dark Knight did before that.
Anonymous No.213682270 >>213682504
>>213682244
>pointlessly antagonize snyderfags
you cannot be serious
Anonymous No.213682307 >>213682504
>>213682244
Anon you are in the eightieth screaming Snyderfag thread of the week raging at Superman 2025, it's not even the only one of its type on the catalog right now. Stop trying to play victim. You have shat up the board with endless whining about this movie for months.
Anonymous No.213682309
Why did you change the hash?
>https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/image/2dkHOcTk0E8yAdn2IVSXpw/
Anonymous No.213682340 >>213682379
>>213679991
Jor-El, Zod, even colonel Hardy were interesting characters. I wasn't too sold on Jonathan Kent and Clark himself but the movie tried to do something.
Anonymous No.213682362
>>213682127
Iron Man which had already had two big hits and was Marvel's biggest success story in that tough period where they were establishing Marvel Studios?
Anonymous No.213682379
>>213682340
I like how you were so short on characters you had to name the VILLAIN
Anonymous No.213682384 >>213682461
>>213682215
Avengers existed by 2013, you faggot.
Anonymous No.213682389
>>213676611
KEK
Anonymous No.213682461 >>213682540
>>213682384
And you're claiming this somehow changed the entire landscape of all cinema in a matter of months, creating a "hostile climate" for "auteurs"?
Anonymous No.213682504 >>213682535
>>213682270
The guy he replied to wasn't trying to start shit but the Gunnshill just had to go and whine about how much more popular with the normies his slop is.
>>213682307
Make your own threads and stay there instead of coming over here to argue. Can't do that?
Anonymous No.213682535
>>213682504
I have a better idea, get a hobby. How about watching films?
Anonymous No.213682540 >>213682676
>>213682461
>It was Marvel that were in a tough period, with no access to Spider-Man or X-Men, their two most famous properties, and having to make do with less well known heroes in Iron Man, Thor, Captain America (with its own concerns), and trying to do what had not been done before
Anonymous No.213682548 >>213682595
>>213677436
It's hilarious seeing posts like this and so called fans of snyder not knowing any of this indicating they really were tourist faggots that flooded in thinking the bvs stuff was genuine
Anonymous No.213682556
>>213675126
Raj…
Anonymous No.213682595 >>213683005
>>213682548
You can stop sucking your own dick at any time.
Anonymous No.213682635 >>213682717
>this fucking pleb calling a director for hire like snyder an auteur
I can't stop laughing
Anonymous No.213682676
>>213682540
Yes, the period of 2007-2012 that I was talking about, an uphill battle. Meanwhile in the same timeframe, Nolan was breaking records with his Batman movies, and "dark and grounded realistic superhero" was in. Man of Steel was positioned to be its successor, pitched as Nolan doing for Superman what he did for Batman, even though he wasn't actually directing. Snyder could not have had a friendlier environment or a cushier position handed to him. The nonsense about a supposed hostile climate is just complete revisionism with no attachment to reality.
Anonymous No.213682717
>>213682635
You doubt his CREDENTIALS
Anonymous No.213683005
>>213682595
Sorry you think of cocks too much, tourist
Anonymous No.213683551
>>213674653
Holy Goalpost batman!
Anonymous No.213684482
>It will get a billie.
>It will get $900 million.
>It will get $800 million.
>It will beat Suicide Squad 1 inflation unadjusted.
>It will get $700 million.
>It will beat Man of Steel inflation unadjusted.
>It will beat Ant-Man 2 inflation unadjusted.
>It will get a direct sequel.
YOU ARE HERE.
>It flopped but will restore the brand.

It most probably doesn’t get $600 million with the $363 million budget.
Anonymous No.213684499 >>213684886
>>213673638 (OP)
Please stop posting this oompa loompa looking motherfucker.
Anonymous No.213684577
Where is a redditor who predicted $640 million for this flop? He wanted to see me in August.
Anonymous No.213684627
It’s not even going to beat JL2017
Anonymous No.213684886
>>213684499
This is the difference between Snyder fans and Gunn fans. We Snyder fans are always respectful towards Gunn, you always speak of Snyder with the viciousness of Tamerlane.
Anonymous No.213686226
>>213673638 (OP)
agree
Anonymous No.213686365
>>213673638 (OP)
what are the chances WB calls snyder back after gunn dropped the ball with slopMAN