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Anonymous No.213682589 >>213682628 >>213682660 >>213682699 >>213683008 >>213683014 >>213683143 >>213683478 >>213684076 >>213684202 >>213684417 >>213684453 >>213686291 >>213687440
Did they really fought this way?
Just walk and get shot like a dumb shit?
Anonymous No.213682628 >>213684417
>>213682589 (OP)
brownoids wouldnt understand
Anonymous No.213682660
>>213682589 (OP)
guns weren't accurate enough and didn't have enough range to do things differently.
Anonymous No.213682699 >>213683008 >>213683346 >>213684076 >>213684202 >>213684463 >>213687918
>>213682589 (OP)
Yes and during the american revolutionary war, Washington decided "wow that's fucking retarded" and hid his dudes in trees without uniforms, and shot at officers.
Anonymous No.213683008
>>213682589 (OP)
That kind of charge happened, but it was a rare tactical situation (and it still involved at least one salvo from the attacker, at varying ranges). The usual tactic was move into range, start firing, advance inbetween salvos or not at all, until either one sides runs on its own or the distance is so short that a bayonet charge can work.
>>213682699
American bullshit. Hiding and sniping happened in europe as well, but it was not decisive (in either war). Washington did in fact take great effort to have his troops trained in line warfare, and only won when he had succeeded.
Anonymous No.213683014 >>213683081
>>213682589 (OP)
So you just recreate this thread over and over?
Anonymous No.213683081
>>213683014
Yes, and like an esl every time.
Anonymous No.213683143
>>213682589 (OP)
Running hadn't been invented yet
Anonymous No.213683259
Just stand behind the fat guy.
Anonymous No.213683346
>>213682699
That didn’t happen. The continental army fought conventionally as did the majority of us forces during the war
Anonymous No.213683478 >>213683563 >>213683798 >>213683995
>>213682589 (OP)
I'm not an expert on this era of warfare but I do know about Pike & Shot warfare.
You have a line of enemy pikeman marching on your matchlock musketeers. The musketeers are just blowing away pikeman as fast as they can because once the times get up to them. They're fucked.
They also had pistoleers on horseback armed with warhammers who would take potshots at pikeman and musketeers. And of course cannon.

In your movie you have more advanced flintlock muskets. More reliable and accurate with better barrels. But they're marching forward as if they're a line of pikemen.

The problem with this image is that it may not be entirely accurate. Or it may be a commentary on European nobility being unable to adapt to new technology or tactics. Or maybe they just didn't care to throw the lives of the peasantry away.
Anonymous No.213683563 >>213683995
>>213683478
We need more Pike & Shot kino
Anonymous No.213683798
>>213683478
me on the third row, fifth from the right
Anonymous No.213683995
>>213683478
>>213683563
>Pike-line fucking SHITS!
Anonymous No.213684076
>>213682589 (OP)
We just had this fucking thread you stupid faggot OP.
>>213682699
You're fucking dumb and a blatant faggot liar, kill yourself along with OP.
Anonymous No.213684122
Why do you retards make the same thread again?
Anonymous No.213684202
>>213682589 (OP)
The weapons used had short range, low rate of fire (like two shots a minute), prone to misfires and were inaccurate. Mass volley fire worked with alternating fire by rank to gain ground and charge or hold a position and having men back you up was needed because of the likelihood of melee.

>>213682699
The continental war was won via professional soldiers and the effectiveness of irregulars is highly propagandised and exaggerated. All armies did have skirmishers and sharpshooters though but even then they were for specific jobs.
Anonymous No.213684417
>>213682589 (OP)
Firepower and command and control. There's a reason this style of fighting conquered the world
>>213682628
This
Anonymous No.213684453
>>213682589 (OP)
Its probably why many chose the navy.
Anonymous No.213684463
>>213682699
This is 100% true.
Anonymous No.213684946
Anonymous No.213686291
>>213682589 (OP)
yes
Anonymous No.213687440
>>213682589 (OP)
Genuinely how does a brown spear thrower beat this?
Anonymous No.213687918
>>213682699
This is the stupid type of shit you would learn in middle school history; literally the "Abraham Lincoln cut down a cherry tree" tier bullshit they would feed you in 8th grade public education.

Washington was autistic about winning the war the "correct" way, with all the usual formalities, because he knew if he could win in that manner, it would "legitimize" his victory with both the crown, AND the rest of the world. He was a bit afraid that if he delved into using guerilla tactics, then the british would start employing more and more asymmetrical warfare style methods too, like arming slave rebellions, pitting the southern laborers against the northern middle/upper class, or simply deciding "fuck it" and escalating the entire thing by sending over a fuckton of redcoats (we call them "regulars" now) and ships and being like "Fuck you, you really thought just because you won the war meant it we weren't coming back? We're the British empire, we weren't reaaally trying back then, but now we're pissed"

By winning the war while observing all the stiff british formalities, it forced the crown to act under the impetus that Washington won "fair and square" (don't ask my why the crown bothered to acknowledge that shit, I don't fucking know; my guess is that since the war was expensive as hell, they were like "I don't want to go through with that again, especially with France still being a threat to us", and also because it was embarrassing and they legitimately thought that if Washington could win once, there was an actual serious chance he could beat them a second time, which would be even more embarrassing if you puffed your chest after getting knocked out, just to get sat the fuck down again; and if that truly did happen, their reputation would take a steep dive and it would inspire other colonies to do something similar)