Thread 213691320

>Stranger Thing was popular because of 80's nostalgia
>that was 10 years ago
When will we get a Netflix series about 90's nostalgia and what will it be about?

>>213691320 (OP)
>museum exhibit
>everything is a product
do millennials really

>>213691320 (OP)
>tfw still dress like a 2010s sadboi rapper

I need more of her zany reactions!
>zoinks scoob.. im like le old !!

>>213691320 (OP)
They're just gonna keep doing 80s nostalgia bait forever.

Latest Stranger Things shlock is already in the 90s, retard.

>>213691320 (OP)
>museum
its just a bunch of outdated useless ju-
oh shit

>>213691712
It is the most recognisable “aesthetic” you can go for and most of the props and set pieces are cheap because gen x hates old stuff and only wants new new NEW shit.

>>213691320 (OP)
Whatever it is there are going to be a lot of frosted tips

the generational cycle was caused by 30somethings entering high level positions in entertainment saying "you know what I liked as a kid? things from 20 years ago!" this doesn't happen anymore.

>>213691587
Welcome to the consoom museum

>>213691320 (OP)
lol and you guys say women can't be funny.

>>213691320 (OP)
Fucking 80s, man, best shit ever. Bet your ass, man.

Guns N' Roses fucking rules. Crüe. Def Lep.

Then that Cobain pussy had to come around and ruin it all. Like there's something wrong with wanting to have a good time.

I'll tell you something. I hated the fucking 90s.

90s fucking sucked.

There will be no 90s nostalgia bait because they don't want to remind us how good we had it

>>213691320 (OP)
i still use one of those tiny grills

Entertainment leaned so hard on the 1980s they forgot to replace it with just as much new original material. 80s will be around for a long time. Star Wars with its ups and downs has been relevant for 50 straight years

1950s > 1890s > 1920s > 1990s > 1940s > 1980s > 1900s > 1910s > 1960s > 2000s > 1930s > 1970s > 2010s > 2020s

When Stranger Things came out, the ’80s nostalgia fad was already tired.

Timeline of 80s nostalgia:

Begin:
Donnie Darko - 2001
GTA Vice City - 2002
That '80s Show - 2002

mid:
Super 8 - 2008
Drive - 2011
Hotline Miami - 2012


end:
All the outrun/synthwave music revival thing 2012 - 2015
Kung Fury - 2015


kicking the rotten corpse:
stranger things - 2016
more stranger things - 2017 - 2025
Ready Player 1 - 2018
more sequels to old movie franchises

>>213693056
>50s over everything else
>30s (THE GREAT DEPRESSION) over the 70s, 2010s

Are you retarded?

There's nostalgia for the 2010s already. The start of the cultural void. I have no faith left that our species will ever course correct and things will simply keep getting more and more derivative and vapid. When older people waxed nostalgic for their yesteryears you could at least see why. Any future look back into this part of history will be like pining for the Dark Ages.

>>213692801
Wasn't appetite for destruction 1989?

>>213693492
87, GnR was massive in the early 90s.
Anon is just retarded.

>>213691320 (OP)
I thought we'd already have gotten it. 90s nostalgia will be the biggest wave yet, and it will represent a recontextualization of the entire 20th century (or the 1900s), while including a lot of bleed back from 2000s and internet culture.

>>213691827
I still think it will happen one more time.

the fashion world has already exhausted the 2000s

90's nostalgia is just kicking in. I heard Space Hog's In the Meantime at Sam's Club today.

>>213691587
>a museum that highlights an era shouldn’t have clothing, technology, entertainment, toys, furniture, and games from that era because… uhh… they’re products and products are bad or something
Your post wasn’t as poignant as you thought.

>>213691320 (OP)
Good morning I hate women very much

>>213691320 (OP)
We should have entered 90s nostalgia in the 2010s because the cycles go every 20 years, in fact there was a lot of 90s nostalgia back then but then it just went straight back into 80s nostalgia like people saw the writing on the wall that everything started going to shit in the 2000s so there was no point in going any further. So now we're stuck with 80s nostalgia forever.

>>213691587
Are you expecting ancient pottery and cave drawings?

>>213693778
>in fact there was a lot of 90s nostalgia back
What shows and movies were they? I dont remember seeing anything like this in the 2010s.

>>213693799
Did you forget about the whole 90s kid meme shit that was popular in the early 2010s? Like I said, there was a lot of nostalgia but then corpos were like, "Let's go back to the 80s" and we've been there ever since.

>>213691320 (OP)
>heh, zoomer didnt get to consoom this and this, and this.
-some millenial itt probably

90s nostalgia shows would cause revolution. Just the final spit in the face from the rich out of touch boomers on the younger generation.

>>213693647
>90's nostalgia is just kicking in.

No, it's not. Zoomers are jumping straight to the 2000s.
They all talk about Y2K bug, chrome fashion, fruitiger aero, sony cyber shot and ps2 ads.

>>213691320 (OP)
they 80s were the best cause of the music the 90s are just a lost cause

>>213693552
That anon's post was a movie quote, you paint chip eating jizz sock.

>>213693122
The Wedding Singer - 1998

>>213692930
I have one too, I use it to bake clay because my sister likes to make clay sculptures

>>213691320 (OP)
It'd be so funny if the 2000s exhbition was littered with the 2005 Wonka Oompa Loompa animatronics.

>>213693799
Boyhood, Captain Marvel, The Last Black Man in San Francisco, Mid90s, White Boy Rick

There's a few more that have come out the past few years like 1992, Y2K, and Iron Claw

>>213691587
That is quite literally what is meant by material culture, yes.
>>213691320 (OP)
This seems to be a little too heavily weighted toward the late 90s thoughbeit.

>>213691587
>everything is a product
What the fuck do you think the things in museums have always been you sub-nigger retard gorilla? You think those suits are armor were just GIVEN away after miraculously sprouting out of the ground?

>>213691587
>everything is a product
What the fuck do you think the things in museums have always been you sub-nigger retard gorilla? You think those suits of armor were just GIVEN away after miraculously sprouting out of the ground?

>>213692801
The blues are shit bro, what's wrong with having a good time.

>>213693789
I don't know about ancient but I would actually be interested in such a museum touching on the pottery styles of the era, although I suppose it would be more in the style of how they were painted at the time

>>213693460
I unironically think things will be improved if we can get indians and the chinese the fuck off of the internet.
Everything that gets made nowadays is designed to appeal to a planetary audience, and most of that audience are actual subhumans. The second the entertainment industry isn't designed to appeal to literal chinamen, things will start showing a slow improvement.

>>213694075
>I unironically think things will be improved if we can get indians and the chinese the fuck off of the internet.

Impossible. The best we can do is create an Internet 2 and convince them all to go on that instead.

>>213692801
80s fucking sucked, anybody who anything about anything knows the 60's were it.

>>213694075
Dumbest spook imaginable. The problem is the glows, who want to control all spaces and narratives.

>>213694045
>>What the fuck do you think the things in museums have always been
>milennialfag thinks everything has always been a commercial product because he can't even comprehend the concept of utility, religion, or culture

>>213694280
>retard thinks economics sprouted up in the 19th century because of jews and banks

You're another dumb nigger retard, stop replying to me.

>>213694368
>brings up the Jews for no reason at all
Do you seriously think historical nations like the Romans, Persians, or Chinese made things like distinctive weapons, buildings, clothing, and pottery for commercial export and economic competition on an international marketplace, or because of a mix of utility, culture, and/or religion?

>>213694458
>Do you seriously think historical nations like the Romans, Persians, or Chinese made things like distinctive weapons, buildings, clothing, and pottery for commercial export and economic competition on an international marketplace, or because of a mix of utility, culture, and/or religion?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_33

Now shut your stupid mutt-loving nigger retard mouth, for the love of god.

90s
best music
best cartoons
best movies
best form of the internet

>>213694479
Are you a bot? I'm talking about the commercialization of everything (partucularly culture), not the concept of commerce itself you fucking moron.

>>213694584
>I'm talking about the commercialization of everything (partucularly culture)
And I'm talking about how that "culture" of land ownership in antiquity was commercialized and distributed in Rome, you fuck-stick retard.

No, no, I get it, you live in la-la-land and pretend that people just "did things maaan" and that nobody ever sought profit out ever for material gain before the modern world, ignoring the silk trade of Rome, the profit-sharing partnerships and bills of exchange in medieval Islam, merchants from Assur who ran private trading ventures into Anatolia, organizing caravans, investing silver in tin and textiles, and the Greeks who had independent shippers (emporoi) financed voyages with high-interest, risk-priced maritime loans, who all only did so, apparently to you, because of "culture maaaan, because they simply did it because of religious importance maaaaan".

God will you insufferable retarded niggers shut your GOD DAMN uneducated stupid fucking mouths? Fucking annoying. Ancient trading empires of antiquity THRIVED on fucking commercialization, through dyes, pottery, wine, oil, and glassware you fucking subhuman mongoloids. They didn't carry ships full of this shit across the Mediterranean because ancient Hindu Dindu god of Anal Dipshittery told them through prophecy, they did it for fucking MONEY.

>>213694756
>muh historical materialism
When will this Marxist meme run its course?

>>213694808
Marxist theory interprets pre-capitalist societies (like Rome or Assyria) in terms of surplus extraction by elites, not market-driven profit-seeking you fucking retard.

You can't even post proper shitpost counter arguments, fucks sake.

>>213694458
>made things like distinctive weapons, buildings, clothing, and pottery for commercial export and economic competition
YES

>>213694860
> in terms of surplus extraction by elites, not market-driven profit-seeking
All you're doing is inverting Marxist historical materialist arguments into "and that's a good thing"; if anyone here is the retard it's you given the vast majority of major conflicts and historical events have been driven by things other than profit-seeking, which with some exceptions is often a secondary motive.

>>213691587
Well yeah, it's an accurate representation of how our society has been shaped by its economic system. What did you expect, a fucking Yugoslav War reenactment paintball arena?

>>213694479
nta but I don't believe in historical nations at all

>>213694756
Holy shit that retard got BTFO. Hate to kick someone while they’re down but >>213694808 you lost catastrophically. A museum is going to show products because that’s the only thing museums can show. Just because it’s modern products doesn’t mean the Macintosh is any less a museum item than a an old printing press.

>>213694900
>>YES
Those Athenians really were geniuses, building the Acropolis to get all that tourist money from Spartans and Macedonians!

>>213694925
you got destroyed desu

>>213694960
>The Acropolis isn't a product
lol
lmao

>>213691320 (OP)
It will be a Revenge flick where a 40yr old White man wakes up one day and realizes Nintendo, AOL, and Captain Planet destroyed America.

>>213694959
>A museum is going to show products because that’s the only thing museums can show
Anon I'm not arguing against putting early 00s shit in an early 00s mueseum, I'm arguing against the idea that literally everything significant throughout history has been exclusively profit-driven, which by all objective metrics is not true and is a very new concept with explicitly Marxist roots.

>>213694860
>Marxist theory interprets pre-capitalist societies (like Rome or Assyria) in terms of surplus extraction by elites, not market-driven profit-seeking you fucking retard
Who cares? It's flat earth tier pseudoscience that doesnt even understand marginalism. lmao

>>213694966
hasan lost

>>213694925
>All you're doing is inverting Marxist historical materialist arguments into "and that's a good thing"; if anyone here is the retard it's you given the vast majority of major conflicts and historical events have been driven by things other than profit-seeking, which with some exceptions is often a secondary motive.
Nobody is talking about major conflicts and historical events, the original retard who instigated this was the retarded faggot at the top of the thread who assumed that nobody created "products" before the modern era, which is so patently absurd, it only deserves ridicule and mockery.

Anything anyone has ever made or harvested, and sold for profit, or has been commissioned to create, was engaging in commerce, and they were trading a product. End of story. What, you think the Sistine Chapel was painted just out of the goodness and dedication and spiritual love of Michelangelo's heart? Fuck no, he did it because he was paid 3,000 ducats from the Papal estate. He didn't even want to do it initially because he considered himself to be a better sculptor.

>>213695028
>I'm arguing against the idea that literally everything significant throughout history has been exclusively profit-driven

Are you retarded? Have you ever been to a museum in your life? If I go to a museum and see a fucking cuneform tablet that describes the grain harvest, or an Incan gold coin, is that something that was designed for profit? EVERY HUMAN INVENTION IS A PRODUCT FOR THE CREATION OF PROFIT

>>213694058
Well, there was a lot of pot in the 90s.

>>213691320 (OP)
Twisted metal is entirely 90s nostalgia. I think Subway Boy made that movie mid 90s, never saw it though. There was also that show "Everything Sucks" with that locker room scene with Sidney Sweeney. The 90s and everything going forward isn't that interesting, because there isnt any real specific culture. Yes you have clothes and fads, but no real culture, or at least an immediatley identifiable one, one thats interesting to watch. People want to watch a time where life was smaller simpler. The 80s work perfectly because of this, its the last decade before internet/globalization/whatever the fuck you want to call it, but still relatable to a modern audience.

>>213691587
yes, our product was the peak of civilization

>>213695068
>What, you think the Sistine Chapel was painted just out of the goodness and dedication and spiritual love of Michelangelo's heart?
Here's a better question: why was the Sistine Chapel, or any religious structure constructed in the first place before the modern period? Here's an inconvenient fact for you retards: it had literally nothing to do with profit, consumption, or commerce, because.

>>213695201
Why do people pray to God in the first place?

Because they hope it will bring them good fortune in this life and the afterlife, i.e profit

>>213695100
Heh

>>213691587
What exactly do you think zoomer museum exhibits will consist of in thirty years?

>>213695276
extinct animals such as tigers and elephants and tuna

>>213695276
Symbols of political upheaval
Fortnite
Debt

>>213695096
>cuneform tablet that describes the grain harvest
Those are statistics taken by farmers, governments, and priests given they lived in times where floods and droughts were commonplace and thus had to craft policy accordingly in real-time given those stats were all they had.
>Incan gold coin
>money and commerce exists, therefore I'm right
What?
>EVERY HUMAN INVENTION IS A PRODUCT FOR THE CREATION OF PROFIT
Who profitted off the invention of the wheel, paper, the drum, or fire for that matter? Fucking American Milennials I swear.

>>213691587
Americans do

>>213695239
shalom

>>213694756
Wow, goyim ARE cattle.

>>213695096
Nta, but I think the main argument you're trying to make, and failing at it, is that everything people do is for beneficial gain. No true altruism etc. This is probably true. But I'm not even a Christ fag and know that Issac Newton did what he did because he loved math and also said he did it for god. Vincent van Gogh was painting for the sake of it, with no patrons. Edmund Hillary climbed Everest because he wanted to. Even the space race wasn't profit driven, it was a giant dick waving competition, to the point where the American people questioned the amount of money and man power. Also, were the pyramids built to make more money? Fucking idiot.

this is 90s nostalgia

>>213695332
>Those are statistics taken
for what purpose again?
>Who profitted off the invention of the wheel, paper, the drum, or fire for that matter?
EVERYONE

>>213695239
>Because they hope it will bring them good fortune in this life and the afterlife, i.e profit
Lmao, we really do have some retarded Milennial raised by Boomer evangelical prosperity gospel bullshit itt
>>213695276
>What exactly do you think zoomer museum exhibits will consist of in thirty years
Sex toys, Iphones, various flags, the Minecraft movie, and sigma edits of various influential political radicals most associated with Gen Z, i.e Nick Fuentes, Jackson Hinkle, Andrew Tate, Red Scare etc.

>>213695384
>Also, were the pyramids built to make more money? Fucking idiot.
Answer that question to its logical conclusion and you will see that I'm right

>>213695386
This. It exists, but it isn't successful without a gimmick. The culture isn't that different than today.

>>213695422
>Lmao, we really do have some retarded Milennial raised by Boomer evangelical prosperity gospel bullshit itt
I don't even know what that criticism is supposed to be, you can't prove me wrong

>>213695412
>for what purpose again?
To not fucking die an ecruciating death in a famine from not having enough food you retard, money had nothing to do with it.
>EVERYONE
We're talking about commercial gain, not literal technological advancement or gain here.

>>213695428
Tell me the logical conclusion. And continue to disregard the rest of my post faggot.

>>213691320 (OP)
You won't. The 90s fuckin' sucked.
80s had soul

>>213695458
>money had nothing to do with it.
It's literally taken for trade you mongoloid, money has EVERYTHING to do with it, how can you be this naive?
>We're talking about commercial gain, not literal technological advancement or gain here.
Nobody invents things for technological advancement you imbecile child, they invent things to make their own lives better and to make their work more efficient, that is to say, profit.

>>213695464
The Pyramids weren't made to make the lives of the slaves building them worse, were they?

>>213695449
>you can't prove me wrong
Pretty much every major religion is blunt about the fact that financial or social gain is not the point of following said religion (even if in many circumstances it is irl) and that said paradise or afterlife is one based on how virtuous you are, not your class or standing.
You'll find that descriptions of heaven in the bible, and that of most afterlife mythologies (with some exceptions like Islam) either have reincarnation narratives where you evolve or devolve depending on your virtuousness in life or a very abstract, "good" place detatched from reality and everything else.

>>213691587
>everything is a product
So when you see a museum about life in say, 1850, you do NOT wish to see clothing, furniture, tools, toys or cookware? What is it you want to see exactly?

>>213694280
>a commercial product
Correct.

>>213694458
>for commercial export and economic competition
Yes. Rome was THE commercial hub of the empire. Why the fuck would it not be?

>>213691587
Fun fact: all those ancient greek and roman statues and classical european paintings were also products and commissioned to rich people. All those ancient egyptian Obelisks were also products paid for by the Pharaohs. All those suits of armor were built and paid for by people who put in an order.

>>213695528
>The Pyramids weren't made to make the lives of the slaves building them worse, were they?
Holy fuck you're an actual retard lmao
>>213695501
>money has EVERYTHING to do with it
Money has "everything to do" with your fief not starving to death every year?
>Nobody invents things for technological advancement you imbecile child
Guess you aren't familiar with alchemy then lol

>>213695563
>Pretty much every major religion is blunt about the fact that financial or social gain is not the point of following said religion
1. The point of all Religions, regardless of what they preach, is to exact a method of control of society for the betterment of its adherents.
2. The declared point of most Religions is to literally live forever in the afterlife, which is to say, to profit forever. Most religions also create PRODUCTS to achieve this goal.

>>213695617
>Money has "everything to do" with your fief not starving to death every year?
lmao yes, you actual moron
>Guess you aren't familiar with alchemy then lol
Nigger do you think people tried to turn lead into gold just because they felt like it? you idiot lmao

>>213691320 (OP)
80s nostalgia was already a thing in the 90s and 2000s. It never really stopped. 90s nostalgia has been a thing for a while, but it's not as prominent as 80s nostalgia.

>>213691674
The 2010s are pretty much contemporary, you faggot.

>>213695332
>EVERY HUMAN INVENTION IS A PRODUCT FOR THE CREATION OF PROFIT
>Who profitted off the invention of the wheel, paper, the drum, or fire for that matter? Fucking American Milennials I swear.
I think you need this
https://www.aa.org/the-twelve-steps

>>213695332
>Who profitted off the invention of the wheel, paper, the drum, or fire
Everyone?

some sort of weird fruitger ambient dnb thing

>>213695660
>lmao yes
Most people in antiquity at that time were subsistence farmers or sharecroppers/slaves, anon. They needed those records for themselves to not die above all else.
>Nigger do you think people tried to turn lead into gold just because they felt like it?
Do you think the Chink that invented gunpowder in the Tang Dynasty as a byproduct of his quest for immortality actually did it intentionally so he could go to a patent office and profit off of his creation?

>>213695724
>Everyone
Yes, but the people who invented those things did not explicitly invent them for personal material or financial gain, which is what the troglodytes itt are arguing.

>>213695775
>slaves
Slaves ARE a commodity.

>>213695791
>Slaves ARE a commodity.
Yes, and they had to be fed; with FOOD, not money.

>>213693122
That 80s show didn't even last a fucking season. The real 80s retro wave started around Drive and 2010-2012.

I'm seeing more of a 2000s nostalgia with the odd constant re-emergence of numetal. Mostly in game products but you did have Doja cat doing one around 2020.

>>213693778
Sometimes 30. Back to the Future and other shit was nostalgic for the 1950s in the 1980s. What's more the case than a single abstract rule is that when kids and teenagers are now adults and able to produce/write content or are a major market you want to appeal to them. Millennial writing was for millennials more than it was by them (Until recently).

80s nostalgia's enduring success makes me think it might be one of those lasting decadent fixations. The same way the wild west was for well over 30 years, or how the Greeks for awhile did nothing but regurgitate Homeric Heroic age stuff.

>>213695790
>Yes, but the people who invented those things did not explicitly invent them for personal material or financial gain
Yes they did
You have a romantic view of the past. The reality is that people from 3000 years ago were no different to those today.

>>213695826
Food costs...

>>213695826
Anon you realize this is like claiming the computer shown in OP used electricity, therefore it is not a product.

>>213695826
>food is not a product

>>213695826
And they conjured that food up with magic did they? Or did they BUY that food from a farmer or wholesaler?

>>213695826
Food, famously given out for free.

>>213695836
>>213695862
>Food costs
>food is not a product
In an agrarian society like Mesopotamia or the Indus, food was a product, it was currency, it was pretty much everything, as were slaves.
It wasn't money that people were trading or doing all of this shit for you fucking retards.

>>213695926
>ood was a product, it was currency
Thanks for agreeing with us.

>>213695926
I'm stealing your name, I can only improve it from here.
Here's my first post : Fart&poo.

>>213695919
>Food, famously given out for free
They were farmers that grew the food
>>213695879
>And they conjured that food up with magic did they?
They grew it themselves you fucking retards, with the exception of those in urban areas that traded or bought it.
>>213695919
>Food, famously given out for free.
I know this is a shock to you guys, but there was a time not long ago when pretty much everyone on earth otuside of specific urban areas grew their own food for themselves to eat.

>>213695926
>food was a product, it was currency
>It wasn't money
based retard

>>213695926
Currency is currency. It doesn't matter if it takes the form of modern dollars in bank transfers or a blacksmith paying his lord in arrowheads and horseshoes, they serve the same purpose.

>>213695945
>Thanks for agreeing with us
You fucking niggers were arguing that the only reason people grew food was for money/currency, and that the only reason anyone has ever done anything ever has been for explicit financial gain, which by all objective metrics is not true given what "finance" and "commerce" entails dramatically vaaries in terms of place and time period.

>>213695963
This guy thinks fiat is a car

>>213695963
>They were farmers that grew the food
In order to do....what? What do they do with the food they grow, anon? For what purpose was their farm growing crops? Crops they required slaves to work? Not a little vegetable patch for a hut, a farm, with slaves working fields.

>>213695926
>it was currency
>but like....not like CURRENCY currency, just regular currency

>>213696018
You don't get it, this wasn't in America it was in Agraria

>>213695926
>it was currency
So you agree this has existed across human history and cultures across the world?

>>213695964
>>213695978
>based retard
You can't eat dollars or gold coins, nor can you turn them into arrowheads or horseshoes can you retard?

>>213696034
Do you think all money is made out of the same stuff they pay jannies with?

>>213695985
>You fucking niggers were arguing that the only reason people grew food was for money/currency
teehee why the fuck werent they hunters/gatherers anymore, stupid?

>>213696034
You can't eat arrowheads yet a blacksmith made them. For what purpose did he make them?

>>213696004
>In order to do....what?
EAT THEIR FUCKING FOOD AND MAKE FOOD TO LIVE YOU DUMB FUCKING NIGGERS, IF YOU DIDNT LIVE IN A TOWN ON A TRADE ROUTE OR YOU HAD TO GROW THE FUCKING FOOD YOURSELF
>>213695991
>fiat
You mean the thing you're arguing motivates everything every human has ever done throughout history?

>>213696034
>gold coins
>can't be made into an arrowhead or horseshoe
based retard

>>213691320 (OP)
Y'all it's the 7th version of the matrix be chill alright real agrarian human history potentially never existed we've always been plugged into computers.

>>213696078
Farmers ran a farm with slaves they purchased to work their fields...just to eat? What did they purchase the slaves with? Why are they growing fields of crops instead of just what they need personally to eat every day?

>>213696078
Huh?
>>213696034
What do you mean?
>>213695985
Who said so?
>>213695963
And then what happened?
>>213695926
That sounds made up, do you have a source for that?
>>213695826
Slavery is bad.
>>213695790
>>213695775
Both of these make good points in a vacuum
>>213695617
I always thought the Chinese were on to something there.

>>213696078
Maybe you should actually go to a museum and find out if the things therein are products of their time, just like the things in the 90s museum

>>213696052
>teehee why the fuck werent they hunters/gatherers anymore
Because they realized they could domesticate animals and crops to eat them in an environment they had far more control over in a relatively small area?>>213696047
>Do you think all money is made out of the same stuff they pay jannies with?
That's what fiat currency is, it isn't real.

The brown zoomie trying to understand what money is ITT is pretty funny

>>213696078
I said a farm, not a vegetable patch for a house. A farm. Large amounts of livestock, or crops, making large amounts of produce. What do you think olive farms in Greece were for? Just a farmer eating olives all day and doing nothing else with the olive groves he tends?

>>213696125
Yeah, he's learning something he should have known awhile ago.

>see a pottery piece from 1100
>they must have made this....just...for the ART!
>see a pottery piece from 1990
>stupid PRODUCT!

>>213696122
>Because they realized they could domesticate animals and crops to eat them in an environment they had far more control over in a relatively small area?

This is a modernist's perspective. To the people at the time, the reason they did it was because it gave them more to trade with.

>>213691320 (OP)
afaik Stranger Things was enjoyed more by people who weren't even born in the 80s.

Look at pic-related - 18-29 is the largest cohort.

It makes sense to me - what kind of 30+ has time to still care about supernatural stuff, especially if it's not part of a well-defined universe they knew since they were small. Also, people ask why middle aged men watch Wednesday, well why would they watch a show about a bunch of kids.

>>213696147

Product 1000 BC: :)
Product 2000 AD: >:(

Neither of you know much about the agricultural revolution, please stop talking about it.

>>213696151
>This is a modernist's perspective
>subsistence farming is modernist
>>213696125
>The brown zoomie trying to understand what money is
I know what fucking money is, I'm arguing against the idea that fiat currency is the reason anyone has ever done something when what money/currency is means very different things to different peoples/societies at different times.

>>213696034
Money exists to serve as a standardized exchange for goods and services, it is necessary in any kind of larger society because just relying on bartering or other methods is not efficient for businesses engaging in large scale regular transactions.

>>213696183
No, currency means currency. All it does is change form. The purpose remains the same.

>>213696183
Actually your argument was that things in museums aren't products just because they're old

>>213696183
Actually your argument was that things in museums aren't products just because they're old

>>213696092
>golden horseshoes
the boomers really did waste money didn't they

>>213696216
>your argument was that things in museums aren't products just because they're old
There's no shortage of things created by people for the sake of it or for reasons unrelated to financial gain, especially the further back you go in history.

>>213696092
>making weapons and horseshoes out of gold
based retard

>>213696245
Why is your hand shaking? Calm down, sip some warm water.

>>213696268
>Why is your hand shaking?
Because I'm about to jack off

>>213696243
If you got it, flaunt it
>>213696267
>can't be made into arrowheads or horseshoes
based retard indeed

>>213696310
Look, my sister is a downie, can you not use that term, she watches me post all day.

>>213696310
Gold is terrible for making into non-ceremonial weapons because it's too soft and heavy

>>213696334
>can't be made
retard

>>213696210
>>213696200

It's weird how people now lump "90s and 2000s" together as the good times, when in 2011 the 2000s were constantly hated and separated from the 90s ("90s last good decade, fuck the 2000s" etc).

>>213691320 (OP)
The 1980s were great because this zoom guy was yet to be born

>>213696540
>The 1980s were great because this zoom guy was yet to be born
Don't worry, I wish I wasn't born either.

>>213696539
I remember playing a bunch of magic the gathering in the summer of 2001. The set was named Apocalypse

>>213696539
>plane trails in the nostalgia collage
WTF? Plane doesn't exist anymore??
Weird way to learn that fact through a meme...

>>213691320 (OP)
Why hasn’t some Parks conglomerate tried to bank on 80s nostalgia & 90s nostalgia by creating time capsule small town americana to rent out to nostalgiababie tourists

>>213691320 (OP)
Why is she dressed like she works at the post office?

>>213695528
Im the anon you responded to. The lives of the slaves had nothing to do with the pyramids. For better or worse, it was a monument that the people who started it would not even see its construction. They just wanted to do it. No profit was gained. Fucking moron you are.

>>213691320 (OP)
>woman_presents_object.jpg

>>213696052
You are confusing profit as an economical term, with growth and survival. To keep it /tv/ related, if I am tom cruise in castaway, stranded on an island, did I create my shelter for profit?

>>213691320 (OP)
Stranger Things is unusual because the 80's nostalgia wave already happened c. 1997 - 2007
>wedding singer
>vice city
>miami vice reboot
>the killers
>big hairdos and tight pants, e.g. russell brand, mighty boosh
The "Duffer Brothers" weren't even born til 1984

I think maybe they struck lucky pitching a show to a gen x-er maybe

Anyway 90's nostalgia already happened and is still underway
>sonic memes
>movies set in early 90's e.g. Wackness, Captain Marvel
>teenagers wearing tracksuit pants
>girls with exposed midriffs

>>213693032
Star Wars is 70's

>>213691320 (OP)
WHERE'S THE MID 90s PAMELA ANDERSON EXHIBIT?

>>213696245
This. People swimming the English channel for instance. Or half our medical science coming from autist nerds who were just really interested in a single field and found something.

>>213691739
stop watching that shit

>>213693460
Rotting away from either Ebola or Covid should hsve been a Mortal Kombat fatality option in the most recent game

>>213697536
>girls exposed with midriffs
I long for the day low rise jeans and crop tops return. But fags here would just say girls are too skinny.

>>213691587
You think those ancient cultures only made vases and plates for le culture?

>>213693460
the so called 'dark ages' ARE worth pining for, as is anytime before the worthless 20th century when we decided to gibve holes "rights". the best time would be before Christianity. Christianity was the start of the problem of treating holes as something other than property.

>>213697660
They probably made them for holding their food and water.

>>213691320 (OP)
>go to 90s museum
>remember how much better everything was
>leave
Sounds depressing

>>213697689
Bait.

>>213697689
6/10. You had all the parts, but tried to do too much with one post. Spread it out next time.

>>213697627
I think they're back already, the crop tops certainly are

>>213691587
True. They should have given equal space to all the amazing Soviet technology and fashions. Those filthy capitalists.

>>213693647
They started playing Linkin Park on the local "classic rock" station.

>>213695687
>the 2010s are contemporary
it's 2025 grampa

>>213695120
I think it's because culturally the 90s were like 3 different decades in one. There is more similarity between 1981 and 1989 than between 1993 and 1997.

Early mid and late 90s are all wildly different eras.

Early 90s is characterized by widespread adoption of black culture. Tons of white kids listening to rap like MC Hammer, Vanilla Ice, etc, and watching Fresh Prince and In Living Color.

Mid 90s is all about grunge music and that aestehetic. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, comics going "edgy" and "mature", Superman dies, Batman gets his back broken, Green Lantern turns evil, Wolverine gets his adamantium ripped out by Magneto, etc. Dial Up internet as we came to know it is born in this era. Windows 95 ships with AOL trials preinstalled, the first computers where modems came standard as opposed to an expensive addon, the BBSes start converting to dialup providers, the WWW is born.

Late 90s was the "Attitude" era. Full blown edgy, marilyn manson, Austin 3:16 giving the finger on basic cable, every form of entertainment pushing boundaries.

>people now have nostalgia for harlem shake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV0LHCHf-pE

>>213695384
Pyamids were built because people in that culture believed they could take their money with them into the afterlife

>>213691320 (OP)
They will never allow 90's nostalgia because it's literally better versions of living that's been replaced. Best video games with no online micro transaction bullshit. Music and films were all great all affordable with no politics or virtue signaling and you owned them forever on unalterable physical media. Mobile phones where just becoming a thing but weren't an obsession taking over life. The Internet was becoming available but actually had intelligence as a barrier to entry so had no women or whinorities to ruin it. There was no social media. No real muh feminism. Blacks were still seen as the criminals they are. Fags were still a joke and trannies had to cross dress and couldn't even mutilate themselves. It was just a better time. People were happier, living was still affordable and there was actually hope for the future.

>>213697890
80s also had 2 phases, early 80s with many colors and late 80s with dark colors and leather jackets
similar to 90s but opposite, early 90s with black/brown colors and "black culture" in mass media as continuity and evolution of late 80s
and late 90s with colors and "new millennium" hopes
2010s were 3 or 4 phase with 2019 when "back to 90s aesthetic" started but not yet called as "90s nostalgia"
in 2020s we have change everything at once, every single year change for something different to consume, because it is all about consumerism

>>213697890
fr fr

I own mighty Joe young on VHS :)

>>213693460
The fast approaching economic crisis will be like a nuclear bomb going off in wall street. The economy right now is being backed up by hard working middle aged white people who will all retire within the next 10-15 years and the effects of this will lead to the reveal that there is no “universal human being” and that all the brown subhumans they have imported cannot replace whites with a good work ethic because browns simply do not function like we do.

Realistically this economic crisis will be the only thing that can snap the globalists out of their trance because all their assets will be losing their value at a record pace. You have to remember that these rich fucks talk a lot of shit but all their wealth is tied up in companies, stocks and real estate that requires a healthy nation to function and be worth anything.

London is already starting to show a trend in declining housing prices because everyone is trying to get out of there be it regular working whites who seek out their own people in other parts of England or rich globalist assholes trying to escape the new tax laws.

This will be interesting to watch and remember that it literally isn’t your problem no matter how loudly they kvetch and scream and cry.

>>213693854
I may or may not be a zoomer that dresses in y2k fashion styles and uses old 2MP digital cameras.

>>213691320 (OP)
>an imac inside a dorky regular pc desk
>grandmas shitty 1960s furniture somehow being 90s

lmao its like a zoomer made this based of the le nostalgia memes

>>213694075
I think as this current year woke anti racist bullshit wears off there will be more and more sites that range ban the third world and hosts more “deranged” content like youtube used to do before 2016.

There is a market for it and everyone is having brownoid fatigue even if they don’t want to admit it.

Of course the already existing libtard lefty sites will keep getting browner and browner like youtube and reddit and shit like that because they are run by globalist faggots.

>>213691320 (OP)
We already did.

>>213697627
>I long for the day […] crop tops return
It was always a thing in summer/spring.

>>213691320 (OP)
>water sandals
Always wore these as a kid for playing in rivers and creeks, very cool.

>>213700307
I'm virtually retarded when it comes to how internet shit works. Is it possible to have "reverse VPN"? Where users can be offered the choice of which countries they want to filter out completely? That way everyone can start to insulate at their discretion. Or that already exist and I'm too fucking dumb to know about it?

>>213692801
Marisa Tomei has great tits

>>213700271
>>grandmas shitty 1960s furniture somehow being 90s
Did you botbhave a grandma in the 90s? Hell. Even my parents still had furniture leftover from the 60s and 70s.

>>213699023
but what about your Laserdisc collection?

>>213691320 (OP)
What is 2000s and 2010s nostalgia going to look like

>>213691320 (OP)
The generational cycle was broken by the collapse of the universal media culture.

>>213703030
Nostalgia for stuff that never went away. We already see it with Raimi Spider-man coming back. Anf Spidey goes back to the 60s. Even modern stuff like Spingebob has never really gone away.

>>213691712
Well yeah, the 80’s had distinct colors but the fashion was more aesthetic to today’s sensibilities. The 90’s was more liked socially and economically, but in iconography a lot of the colors and fashion design just look goofy today.

>>213703030
2000s I could see being mostly intermediary tech. Anything bridging full analog and digital interfaces. Hypertech aesthetics, color and glass, noticeable advancement in video game graphics, 3D and Photoshop, a lot of examples of internet growing out the AOL era. Shit like that. All transitional, nothing rooted.

>>213703030
People will clearly have nostalgia for classic 2000s films.

>>213693460
Jesus, you're right

>>213703186
Yes. Because the 80s never looked goofy in hindsight.

>>213693460
Give some examples of 2010's nostalgia. Have we even had 2000's nostalgia yet?

>>213693460
I dunno. The dark ages had some rizzed out drip.

>>213703463
Is Trump getting elected again a form of mid 2010s nostalgia?

Sonic The Hedgehog is popular again and now has hit movies

>>213692801
>>213691320 (OP)
Cyberpunk 2077 tried to do the 90s aesthetics instead of 80s and it was 100% worse off for it. God I hate Poland so much

>>213703768
That's not nostalgia, he never went away. The games just sucked. I don't know what the most 'recent' nostalgia is. The Backstreet Boys' are performing again. I saw a viral clip of them performing in the Las Vegas Sphere. They existed from 1993 to 1997. Maybe that's the most recent one? Unless you can find something closer to 2025.

>>213693032
70s and 80s are boomers adulthood and a lot of x-ers childhood decades
that's mostly why we had that shit for so long

>>213704090
BDS strikes again.

>>213691320 (OP)
At least 50% of that webm is her showing her face. God I hate women they are massive fucking narcissists

>>213691320 (OP)
There have been multiple 90's nostalgia bait shows/movies. They all suck mostly because boomers are STILL somehow in charge and hate the 90s

Why are millenials trying to relive their childhood and not have one of their own?

>>213704258
I'm a millenial and I really don't miss this decade

>>213693122
Super 8 in particular feels very prototypical of Stranger Things

>>213695492
The 90s were great but they don't have a unified aesthetic like the 80s, it's not something you can use for an entire film

>>213695687
2010 was 15 years ago.

>>213691320 (OP)
>Stranger Things has been running for over a decade
Insane that something so explicitly derivative has been able to go on for this long

We have to go back.
WE HAVE TO GO BAAAAAACK!

>>213704559
Maybe skater pants or just baggy pants in general. Haircuts Spikey hair. Shoes: Vans. I think thats the most recognizable one that's distinctly nineties. And women with shoes like this.

>>213704607
>>213704599
TV shows not have 8 episodes a season on average and release 2 to 3 years apart.
Streaming was a mistake.

that's a lot of deleted posts

>>213704631
We need JNCO to come back.
I still have a buncha jorts and shirts by them.

>>213704738
Nice.

>>213693122
Kung Fury/Far Cry Blood Dragon do feel like the logical conclusion of 80s nostalgia, there's simply nowhere else to go when you take all the major aesthetic concepts, mix them in a big blender and then pour into the slop trough for an audience to drown in. At least, it's a reasonable saturation point for the "Dude Neon/synthwave/big hair/Radical!" brand of 80s nostalgia that got big in the early 10s

>>213703030
2000s and early 2010s nostalgia seem popular with zoomers
Wii, Xbox, PS2, DS, Y2K, Frutiger Aero, Windows XP, Shrek, SpongeBob, Ben 10, Minecraft, etc

>>213697974
>with no politics or virtue signaling
lol no, sure it didn't reach anywhere near the point it has now but let's not pretend this is something that magically appeared in the '10s. Biggest difference is there was no easy platform for people to voice their shit out, but politics was as present as ever.
Rest of the post is wishful thinking and pointless whining, the 90s were better but not some white utopia, there is a difference between reality as depicted on-screen and the real world.

>>213704809
I wish I could go back to Windows '98.

>>213704693
Look on the bright side at least these new shows are super short considering they all suck ass yet somehow cost four times the budget if not more.

But I know what you mean shows like Star Trek Stargate Farscape all had like 28 episodes a season

>>213691739
this, im pretty sure it's all nineties nostalgia already and has been for a while i watched archive 81 years ago myself

>>213691674
>>213697888
>>213704599
nothing has changed since 2009.

>>213703012
>on holiday in Indonesia in the 90s
>laserdisc door-to-door guy comes over every morning to pick up what you rented and show you new stuff
>also sells snacks
>come back home
>have to bike 20 minutes to the video store, closed on Sun-Mon
>no laserdisc, just old VHS

I never saw a laserdisc rental service again, how come they never took off over here? Were they expensive like BluRay in the late 2000s?

>>213704905
>nothing has changed since 2009.
ive never seen anyone disprove this

80s nostalgia has been a thing since the 90s

>>213691320 (OP)
Cant, they will force niggers and faggota into it. The 90s was the time of straight white people and it was amazing. Can't shoe the youth that.

>>213703030
late 00s can be immediately identified with use of any of the memes from that time (for the people who lived it) or flipphones, the aftermath of 9/11 and the War on Terror being a fixture in the news no matter where you lived in the world, social media slowly entering their tech giant phase and the decline of scene girls.

>>213703463
>Have we even had 2000's nostalgia yet?
Look at the fashion of zoomer actresses/actors. Since 2021-2022, they're all stealing the 2000's look, even down to the narrow frame glasses and spiky hairstyling.
Also, a lot of indie devs are now all in the low-poly instead of the pixelart.

>>213691320 (OP)
Could you actually go to a shop and buy a telephone in the 80s, let alone dozen of them? I thought you had to rent them dfrom the phone company

>>213703945
>Backstreet Boys' are performing again
wtf who is going to see them today? They're too old and white for kpop fans and surely the people who liked them as kids haved moved on.

There's a band in my country that did celtic rap, they were huge in the 90s but now they're like fishmongers or some similar normal job. I would have thought for sure Backstreet had done the same (although they were way bigger so more likely wealthy and retired)

>>213704524
>>213693122
Super 8 was 2011

>>213705009
>Look at the fashion of zoomer actresses/actors. Since 2021-2022, they're all stealing the 2000's look
you mean like this?

>>213697293
Because that's a stupid idea

>>213704905
This is probably the stupidest thing I've read in a long time

>>213703186
80s into the early 90s were not aesthetic whatsoever are you brown

>>213703664
lel seething

>>213691739
Final season is 1987 dumbass

>>213703945
>the game just sucked
skill issue

>>213703417
I didn’t day everything in the 80’s looks good today, but more fashion from that era looks good today than standouts from much of the 90’s.

>>213705406
>you are brown if you don’t have shit tastes like me
Uh oh I triggered the zoomie

>>213691320 (OP)
Wow I'm so glad she cut back every five seconds to see her dumb fucking face with the same bimbo dumbfuck reaction every single time I definitely didn't want to smash it to a pulp by the end!

>>213697890
Doom/Quake/Half-Life

>>213705106
She should go do porn already.

>>213694014
I find it interesting that 90s nostalgia material puts so much emphasis on the blue skies, is it some sort of soft disclosure type of thing? Like, anyone that lived through the 90s remembers the sky being more blue, yet we're constantly gaslit with claims that nothing changed with "muh mandela effect" and the like.

>>213705947
The sky was definitely bluer if you live in Canada or northern US. Wildfires have been insane the last half decade or so

>>213691320 (OP)
>When will we get a Netflix series about 90's nostalgia
This won't happen. The '80s were actually modeled on Boomer nostalgia for the '50s, making the '80s nostalgia stuff from modern times the equivalent of what the middle segment of the human centipede shits out. There's no equivalent dynamic for the '90s, a comparatively forward-looking era.

>>213691320 (OP)
The 90s was the hangover to the 80s just like the 70s was the hangover of the 60s

>>213694001
>"okay, everyone look dead inside!"

>>213706027
The sky used to be bluer
Do you know how INSANE you sound!?

>>213696152
I was born in '86 and the first season was fine. Not anywhere near deserving the levels of attention it got but whatever it was fine.
Got 10 minutes into season 2 and noped the fuck out immediately. Idk if they were going harder on the "omg look guys its the 80s!!!" or the schtick just got old but it felt so inorganic and shameless I couldn't. Can't believe it kept on going for so long either with the normie following it has.

>>213706027
I'm in minnesota and most days there aren't smoke warnings and it's clear it's still quite blue senpai.

>>213705184
Culturally nothing has changed since 2009. Once smartphones were made widespread and retards/shitskins flooded the internet there has been absolutely no cultural advancements.

>>213691320 (OP)
I don't understand what her reaction is trying to convey. What is she upset about?

>>213691320 (OP)
The world you grew up in no longer exists.

>>213691320 (OP)
women arent funny

>>213691707
Felt the same way, anon. Get the dumb bitch out of here and show me these consoles

>>213703841
That was supposed to be the 90's?

>>213708290
I no longer exist.

>>213697859
I turned on the radio for the first time in years the other day and I was skipping channels looking for the classic rock station when I heard Cake. I was about to keep going but then it hit me and sure enough, that was the classic rock station.

>>213705433
well, I am nostalgic for how cheap groceries were in 2015

>>213694001
I want 4 to rub her feet on my dick while she looks at me with that face.

>>213706027
>>213705947
>>213706636
IIRC, colours are more vivid during your childhood, and colours gets more yellowish as you age starting your teen. So that believe doesn't come from nowhere.

>>213710401
I'm nostalgic for how cheap groceries were in 2000.

i remember getting full size bags of funyuns for 99 cents. not vending machine size, full size. now they are like $5

>>213697536
>girls with exposed midriffs
God bless whoever made that happen. The girls here are dressing like straight up whores it was never like this in the 90's 2000's at least not to this extent. It's not even a crop top that they are wearing it barely covers their tits. I see underboob at least once a week.