Thread 213695490

The release of this movie was the high water mark of the golden age of american entertainment and culture.

The high energy blockbuster era peaked and turned to self-parody and it never recovered. The exuberance and positive charge of the 80s slowly turned into increasingly cynical and nihilistic works with dubious morality.
Cartoons started having grotesque style, music become mopey and whiny, decadence and rot set in. Irony and post-irony became the norm.

Coincidentally, Falling Down was released the same year, also signaling the beginning of the end of the american dream.

>>213695490 (OP)
>Arnold Braunschwager!

>>213695490 (OP)
That movie was so bad i couldn't finish it.

>>213695537
Gesundheit

>>213695490 (OP)
You're not wrong but the writing was on the wall during the late '80s, especially around the time The Simpsons came along. Postmodern self-awareness became the norm and parody was suddenly everywhere. Emotional sincerity slowly fell out of fashion and here we are 30 years later where every movie and TV show must second guess itself with bathos and self-deprecation.

It would be nice for art to be able to go back to wearing its heart on its sleeve without fear of mockery, no matter how ridiculous its conceit.

>>213695490 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z9Ismh1elM

>>213698909
>Hey, Claudiuuuus. You killed my fadda. Biiig mistake
>Terran Academy scream

>>213698909
wasted premise on a pg13 flick

>>213695537
I giggled at this for at least 2 minutes, thank you anon

>>213695490 (OP)
how did they make art like that poster back in the day?

>>213695490 (OP)
Definitely.

>>213695490 (OP)
BIG GUN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLsXJitaiVo

https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20250423-the-best-films-of-2025
grim

>>213698153
Probably something to do with writers not having real life experience and being too coddled. They cant express real shit because they havnt been through any.

>>213695490 (OP)
The know-it-all kid absolutely ruined this flick
The movie within the movie should have just been the whole thing, parodies and all, and the meta aspect of a magic ticket that lets movies and reality mix should have been nixed

>>213699412
by hiring painters

>>213696314
Last Action Hero is a Top 10 Arnold movie. Sorry you're too retarded and smooth brained to understand that.

>>213695490 (OP)

it's not a good movie though. try actually watching it.

>>213699873
Nah it's kino

>>213699907
I have watched it like 10 times

>>213699687
Basado

>>213695490 (OP)
I never understood why this movie was supposed so hated and always portrayed poorly when it was references in other media. Obviously it's not Arnold's best movie, but it was still enjoyable and a pretty good action comedy. I liked it and so did every one of my friends back then. Of course, we were also the target demographic.
>Cartoons started having grotesque style
Yeah, I never understood why people had nostalgia for all the disgusting, trashy cartoons that started coming out in the early to mid 90s. It's like the budgets were slashed to nothing, they dropped most of the cool action/sci-fi concepts, and just made ugly, boring shit that only stoners and retards would watch.
Sure, a lot of the 80s cartoons were basically just glorified toy commercials and usually had pretty bad animation, due to being outsourced to Japan, but they were fun to watch as a kid, and had great concepts and a focus on action and masculine heroes.

>>213698153
>Postmodern self-awareness
That's an oxymoron if I ever heard one.

>>213700018
People weren't ready for how meta it was, especially with Arnie and they stereotypes that came with him.

>>213700033
But that shit was already common. It's similar to the humor and the references in the Back to the Future trilogy.

>>213695490 (OP)
It was in direct box office competition with Jurassic Park and Cliffhanger. It didn’t have a chance to be appreciated. I remember seeing it in the theaters and thinking it was pretty funny satire.

It's kino.
And that dude in the yellow raincoat was scary as fuck.

I loved this movie as a teenager. My only regret was not seeing it in theaters. I have no idea why critics and audiences didn't like it back in the day. It was pure kino

>>213695490 (OP)
>The release of this movie was the high water mark of the golden age of american entertainment and culture
TRUTH

>>21369549
>The exuberance and positive charge of the 80s slowly turned into increasingly cynical and nihilistic works with dubious morality.
It came out in 1993. The 80s were well over. The last action hero was not some cultural milestone, just a movie that was under appreciated.

>>213700251
Yes

>>213700420
>It came out in 1993. The 80s were well over.
i guess you don't understand how generations work, zoomie.
"The 80s" didn't really kick off until 1983 and didn't hit its stride until 1988.
What is known as "the 80s" (or any decade) is usually personified near the end and fades into the next few years.
1991 was the turn and by 1993 anyone that was "80s" found themselves confused and disoriented in the world they were facing now
> see Rockstar for this same zietgiest turn

>>213699813
>BIG GUN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiZHNw1MtzI

>>213700532
>the 80s lasted 5 years
I’d put the end of the 80s at 1991. You had the gulf war and the first lollapalooza.
TMNT came out I. 1990, the that is completely an 80s movie. I’d put the end of the 90s in 2001, because nothing felt that different between 1999/2000 except it was a pain in the ass to write dates for like 3 months
>1
>goddamn it.

Now you turn... 360 on me?

>>213699873
The audience for these movies back then was us, kids. But we was cool not pussy capeshitters like zoomers.

>>213700659
>I’d put the end of the 90s in 2001
you could still get $0.99/gal gas in 2000.
the OUGHTS started HARD because of 9/11.

"the 80s" cultural shift was earmarked by grunge. I wont argue when it died, but what OP is suggesting and what I agree with is that the official nail in the coffin was '93. You had grunge bands completely mainstream (not just the brand new thing) and any semblance of "the 80s" was seen as passe and rejected.

I grew up on hair metal, high adrenaline, hyper masculinity....
by '93 I had no idea what the fuck happened that the music was all alternative opiod dogshit

"the 60s" bled well into the early 70s.
"the 70s" were culturally bleeding into the early 80s.

With the age of the Internet, these shifts happen much faster because the information that shapes mass appeal is constant

>>213695490 (OP)
i hardly even remember the contents of this movie. just reminds me of howard stern cuz he would always make fun of robin for thinking it was like the best movie of all time

last action hero is a modern adaptation of don quixote

>>213700848
Holy shit you're right. Never thought about it from that angle before.

>>213700790
Grunge was a cultural shift at the time but doesn’t have the looming power over the decade people like to think it did. By 1995 it was pretty played out, and fucking ska music was getting popular. the late 90s really took off with the musical cluster fuck that had everything from Numetal to teen idols and fucking swing music for some reason. Grunge gets too much credit for what was a passing fad to most people.

>>213701047
>Grunge
i used the term, "grunge", because its all superfaggot music to me, but you expressed the musical landscape perfectly. It was all garbage shit that no one was dancing and getting laid to. Freak shit misery party

>>213701047
Meh, Eurohouse and techno ruled the airwaves for a nice chunk of my youth.

>>213700532
Don't be retarded. The 80s were the 80s. Sure, there were some cultural remnants that lasted into the early 90s, considering things don't immediately lose popularity, and franchises and styles don't immediately change when a new decade comes around, but that doesn't make it the 80s. Also, there's way too much shit that defined the 80s that came about in the early 80s, that you can't dismiss that either.
Also, cultural trends don't perfectly overlap with decades, considering no one is considering what year something happens when they're living through it. If you wanted to divide society into distinct cultural units, you'd have to have a whole lot of 7-8 years periods with a lot of overlap. For example, the early 90s were quite different from the late 90s.

>>213701201
Are you fucking retarded? Grunge was just a tiny part of it, and both rock and metal overlapped with grunge and stuck around well into the 90s, and also spawned a lot of short-lived bands that focused on angry or comedic lyrics that no one remembers. Power metal, thrash metal and alternative metal also survived or outright thrived throughout this era, not to mention a lot of big 80s bands transitioning into arena rock bands that made it big in the 90s. You also had (euro)techno and house, rave, gansta rap and R&B becoming mainstream, and a fuckload of boybands, britpop and gay pop punk (which is admittedly even whinier than grunge). You also had that fucking gay college rock that the skaters listened to as they neutered themselves on a railing or faceplanted into the concrete.
I'm not saying those things were good, but grunge was a fucking drop in the sea compared to all the other stuff, and only defined a couple of years in terms of cultural relevance. Even then, most of the grungefags didn't even act like the stereotypical Gen X mopers, and the 90s were mostly defined by music you could dance to.

>>213701556
>Grunge was just a tiny part of it,
you're replying to a post where i was agreeing with >>213701047
>cking ska music was getting popular. the late 90s really took off with the musical cluster fuck that had everything from Numetal to teen idols and fucking swing music for some reason. Grunge gets too much credit for what was a passing fad to most people.

>>213701299
>Don't be retarded.
arguing my post where I say precisely
THIS
>Also, cultural trends don't perfectly overlap with decades,

>>213699687
Good god this is comedy gold and they just don't make 'em like this anymore

>>213701651
I was replying to this part of your post:
>It was all garbage shit that no one was dancing and getting laid to. Freak shit misery party
My point was that music in the 90s was extremely diverse, and the idea that it ever focused on mopey shit or music that people didn't dance to is perversely wrong. A lot of it was bad, sure, but I can't think of a decade that had more music you could dance to and get get laid to than the 90s.

>>213695490 (OP)

"True Lies" was the high point of Arnold's career. Toward the late 90s the disaster blockbuster genre was revivified and then we got 9/11 and Michael Bale shit and it was all downhill from there.

>>213695490 (OP)

I suspect the last generation of old Hollywood Jews who knew how to tell a story retired in the early 2000s and that explains the dramatic decline in movie quality after the 90s.

>>213702159
Oh, come on. T2 was the highlight of his career. I don't care which of his movies you prefer, but that was his absolute peak. He rose throughout the 80s and became the biggest action star of that decade, beating out even Stallone, who was a better actor and had two huge action franchises to his name, and then T2 became the biggest action movie in history, which cemented Arnold as the biggest action star of all time. After that, he went downhill pretty fast.

>>213702199
Jews usually weren't behind the good movies, if we're talking about writers and directors. They were mostly involved as producers.
Aside from a handful of talented jewish directors, most of the jews just made bloated, melodramatic Oscar bait, or saccharine shit.

>>213701676
That's not what you were saying. I was saying that the 80s are the 80s, and that you can't just call the early 90s a continuation of the 80s, just because they shared some culture, or a trend from the 80s survived into the 90s.
They're two distinct things.

A movie too smart for old critics, I also had his toy

>>213701556
Britpop was kino if you're an euro

>>213702097
>I can't think of a decade that had more music you could dance to and get get laid to than the 90s.
The 60's
The 70's
The 80's

>>213702289
Accurate take.

>>213702159
You mean T2

>>213702518
>They're two distinct things.
CODIFICATION of decades is a thing. That's what we're all talking about

The nail in the coffin of that last generation doesn't happen on January 1. There are events that personify when that last decade is not only dead but buried. This is OP's point by using
> The Last Action Hero
You're talking absolutes, that no one is questioning exists. The grown ups here (who lived during these cultural shifts) are noting trends in media where the mass appeal of the previous generation was rejected/dead/over

People didn't stop wearing 70s bellbottoms on 1/1/1980
how are you this daft?

>>213702097
>I can't think of a decade that had more music you could dance to and get get laid to than the 90s.
what are these great 90s songs to DANCE and get LAID to?
> Marcarena

>>213702289
>his absolute peak.
also to be noted how T2 was such peak.
Not only was it a MOVIE but it was
> toys
> video games
> music (MTV constantly pushing You Could Be Mine)

Media was gangbanging consumers with constant exposure to Terminator 2. It was Arnold riding the coattails of his previous work. I don't know if you can say T2 was his best peak performance because he didn't do shit in it. It was a sequel riding on the appeal of the original crazy action movie.

>>213699873
As a kid I hated the kid so much I thought the junkie was cool because he shut him up for a few minutes while talking about how much the kid sucked.

>>213702649
Nah. I prefer music from those decades to the 90s, but by the 90s, a lot of the music that was produced was just corporate shit, disguised as rebellious teen culture, with a heavy focus on being catchy and easy to dance to, with a particular focus on beats, build-ups and drops. You also had a lot of underground music that revolved solely around dancing, usually while high on drugs.
Also, you mention the 60s as having a lot of music you could dance to? I mean, I like 60s music, but most of the pop music at the time wasn't really made to be danced to, unless you're talking about the carryover from 50s rock n roll, which was already seen as outdated by the early 60s.
Sure, the 70s had disco, and the 80s had all kinds of weird shit, but the 90s honed in on the corporate dance music, which was perfected (not in a good way) in the 2000s, with all the negro-pop, dance-pop, disco revival and EDM.

>>213702778
Vengaboys, nuff said.

>>213700790
>hair metal, hyper masculinity
uh… you mean all the bands that wore more makeup than most women, spent more time on their hair than most women, and wore women’s clothing?

>>213702999
That was still quite tame compared to the 70s and its glam rock/metal.

>>213699873
I didn't feel like the villain wanting to bring other movie villains into the real world fit his character nor the movie, the guys kills the drug lord he's working for in his own movie, why the hell would he want more competition? Should have either gone full comedic and make him become a movie producer or go full serious and have him try to burn the film they came out of or something, killing all Arnie's character's friends and preventing the villain ever getting sent back there.

>>213703046
>the direct progression of a thing was tamer than what it was a progression of

>>213702999
>uh… you mean all the bands that wore more makeup than most women, spent more time on their hair than most women, and wore women’s clothing?
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha0awV1KczU

Rob Halford in his flaming leather and studs in 1980 is 200% more masculine than any hetero zoomie today

>>213703096
They could make a whole show or videogame around the concept of being able to jump in and out of movies and bring people, animals or objects with you. Could even be a puzzle game. Don't steal my idea, or I'll bust you up.

>>213703120
>bro masculinity is looking like a gay biker bro

They taught you wrong, on purpose, as a joke

>>213701273
>Eurohouse and techno ruled the airwaves for a nice chunk of my youth.
we got a heavy dose of Rednex in the states. Probably not the best representation but there it was.

>>213703203
I was so jealous of this kid.

>>213702726
What, are you retarded?
I'm saying that the 80s were the 80s, and that cultural trends are separate from that, even if some cultural trends that defined the 80s survived into the 90s.
If you're going to define it like that, you end up with periods of 7 to 8 years, that don't align with decades at all.
And yes, I am old enough to remember the late 80s. Of course, that also plays into what we're talking about, with big pop cultural trends obviously surviving beyond the year it was popularized. Movies and music in particular were popular for years after their release date. I mean, I was too young during the 80s to watch the action movies that defined that decade (mostly because I wasn't allowed to watch them), but all of them were still popular in the first half of 90s (and beyond), and were almost considered legendary among kids at the time. Rambo, Alien, Terminator, Robocop, Predator and so on were still considered extremely culturally relevant in the 90s, and I doubt you'd find any kid who grew up in the early 90s who don't consider them a part of their childhood, despite some of the movies being released a decade or more before they were able to watch them. The same goes for a lot of music. Michael Jackson's whole 80s catalogue was popular well into the 90s, even among kids who weren't born when Thriller was released. Of course, that whole court case temporarily diminished his popularity, but I digress.

>>213703163
there are a bunch of assetflip games that do that. not well, of course, because lmao asset flip

>>213702778
I specifically said I wasn't talking about the quality of the music, but whether or not it could be danced to. But like the other guy said, all of the techno from the early to the late 90s, like Dr Alban, Captain Jack, Haddaway, Rednex, 2 Unlimited, Ace of Base, Scooter, E-Type, Vengaboys, Aqua, The Prodigy, Culture Beat, etc.
That's all just from one shitty genre of music.

>>213703204
NTA, but your joke aside, one thing I remember from the 90s, that everyone else seems to have forgotten, is how popular bikers were. It was everywhere. Not Halford's gay biker look, or even real bikers, but the idea of a white, handsome man, usually on a Harley, and symbolizing freedom and the open road, was one of the most common heroes and sex symbols of the 90s. There were several TV shows about them and they were in a ton of gum commercials.
However, I seem to be the only one who remembers it.

>>213700018
>I never understood why this movie was supposed so hated and always portrayed poorly when it was references in other media. Obviously it's not Arnold's best movie, but it was still enjoyable and a pretty good action comedy. I liked it and so did every one of my friends back then. Of course, we were also the target demographic.

yeh i loved it as a kid and never realized it was hated. it's definitely undergone its critical reevaluation though

>>213695537
>bet you didn't know i would say that!
>yeah i did. it's sort of....your "thing"

>>213703769
Kek, The Prodigy feels slightly out of place in that list. Laurent Garnier, Daft Punk, The Chemical Brothers, loads of Dance music in the nineties.

>>213700730
was this movie where we got the joke from?

>>213699907
i watched it like a week ago. it's a great movie. what now, faggot? gonna cry?

>>213702910
>I don't know if you can say T2 was his best peak performance
I didn't say T2 was his peak performance. I said it was his peak. As in, his most popular and commercially successful movie, and the absolute peak of his popularity. That said, I do think it's his best role, along with T1, considering being a big, silent serious guy doesn't require a lot of lines or a lot of acting, so it really leans into his strengths as an action star with a huge physical presence, without any of the cheese.
>It was Arnold riding the coattails of his previous work.
That is a meaningless statement. He was an even bigger star after T2, but that didn't save his career in the 90s.
>It was a sequel riding on the appeal of the original crazy action movie.
No, it wasn't. While The Terminator was a popular movie, it wasn't a defining smash hit like T2 was. T2 is probably the most iconic action movie of all time, and stands on its own feet. Most people in the 90s probably watched T2 before T1, or rather, they watched T1 because of T2.

>>213703204
>>bro masculinity is looking like a gay biker bro
you missed the point.
It was that a raging flaming homosexual in the 80s is MORE MASCULINE when compared to the soft effeminate twinks that are the standards for 'men' in today's era

Halford was cited for because he was the ridiculous gay biker stereotype
>are all zoomies fucking this retarded?

>>213704032
Yeah, I wasn't sure about adding it, but I started to slip into tangential shit, and had Faithless in mind when I wrote it.

>>213698909
>>213695490 (OP)
based hollywood isekai.
True Lie a shit.

>>213703769
>like Dr Alban, Captain Jack, Haddaway, Rednex, 2 Unlimited, Ace of Base, Scooter, E-Type, Vengaboys, Aqua, The Prodigy, Culture Beat, etc.
oontz oontz oontz
this is all EDM shit. You might dance like a robot, but you're missing the comparison of what R&B and POP music was to dancing and GETTING LAID.

taking molly and cumming on a passed out emo girl isn't anything comparable to going to an actual DANCE or dance club, grinding on a chick or slow dancing and romancing into fucking.

>>213704216
your perspective of being a young child in the 90s when T2 came out is very clear with this post. It taints any context you could have for the era

>>213704331
Mr. Lobba Lobba ova here. All you did was fuck on the dancefoor. True dancing is when you feel the beat flow through you and are in sync with the universe. Dancing isn't about getting laid.

>>213704252
NTA, but there was an enormous amount of faggotry in the 80s as well. Shit like glam metal and hair metal was absurdly gay. Even Guns n Roses looked like a bunch of queers early in their career, when they briefly adopted the disgusting glam look, with makeup, perms and gay poses. Thankfully they dropped it after they released their first album.

>>213704419
>Dancing isn't about getting laid.
okay, fagalicious

>>213704428
>glam metal and hair metal was absurdly gay
oh, it was absolutely gay LOOKING....
but the music, vibe and social circles were about Partying and having (hetero) sex.

The 90s and beyond were about emotions and loathing.
HERE let me explain
https://youtu.be/1aP4Op-ln9A?si=C9rDZoqnALJMwiQM&t=5

>>213704331
None of the bands I mentioned were played at raves. Raves had house music, local DJs doing their own repetitive thing and much much harder techno. The ones I mentioned were basically the pop version of techno music, and were mostly played in clubs, and primarily targeted teens and people in their early 20s. That said, there was also an enormous amount of pop music, boy bands and awful, soulless, over-produced R&B that got played in clubs and that people could dance to.
And again, I made a point out of not talking about quality, but about music you could dance to. I also made a point out of just listing bands from a single, pretty bad genre. The initial argument was that the 90s were defined by mopey, depressing music that you couldn't dance to, and that no one supposedly fucked, but there was a lot of energetic, positive music in the 90s, regardless of its quality or whether you or I like it. The whole image of the depressed Gen Xer was never really true and Kurt Cobain was more of a fart in the wind than the voice of a generation. I remember forgetting that Nirvana existed until I found a midi file of Teen Spirit that came with the PC I bought in 1997. I had no idea what song it was or what band it was, but I remember recognizing the tune.

>>213705005
That's right. You tell that faggot.

>>213705005
I, for one, applaud your skill to be completely bereft of any nuance or subtle context. Its breathtaking to watch you reflexively reply to posts that you've neither read or comprehended. I long to see this very thread reach max reply with you spearheading the way with absolutist positions asserting your twink emo loser lifestyle that you adopted during puberty in the 90s. I have snapped two glow sticks in your honor

You went on a tangent to defend your JNCO core music when the original position was when you compare the 90s to previous generations (even the 2000s) there wasn't a good culture for FUN and enjoying hetero activity as a teen or adult. No one is arguing the 90s didnt have music. It was that the decadence of the previous generations was SHUNNED in the 90s. That means its a wet blanket on the enjoyable things mentioned
please respond with another post

>>213704582
>The 90s and beyond were about emotions and loathing.
Not really. Again, you're talking about a sub-genre that was never as popular as they claim it was, and like I said, most music in the 90s was pretty positive. Hell, even up until this day, most popular music is positive, unless it's made by scum trying to play into the whole victim narrative (mostly feminists and negroes these days).
Sure, you have whiny genres, and if you combine it with faggotry, there was never a worse time than the 2000s and early 2010s, when emo was supposedly popular. I thankfully almost never came across that shit in real life, but I caught glimpses of it in my periphery. Back in the day, some of that scum existed on early youtube, and I also came across a few at various festivals. Thankfully, they were anti-social, awkward and usually pretty ugly, so they mostly stuck to their own camps and didn't socialize much.

>>213704582
>bro we only look gay we aren't gay we just look like we're a bunch of prancing faggot lala homosexuals

>>213695490 (OP)

You can tell the nostalgia poisoning has really taken effect. I’ve tried to watch this several times thinking it’s better than it really is.

>>213705175
>you're talking about a sub-genre that was never as popular as they claim it was
... so the labels were lying about how "alternative" was the best selling genre? by a huge margin?

there are songs by top 90s artists that incite men and women to be aroused?
> Alice in Chains
> Nirvana
> Pearl Jam
> Green Day
> Radiohead
> Hootie & the Blowfish


> bbbbbut why twinkcore band, XYLOFONIX made an album that i fingered my girlfriend to in the pet cemetery when I was 18

>>213705167
Nice word salad, you absolute retard. What the fuck kind of fantasy world do you live in, and what kind of strawman are you arguing against?
I replied to a post that claimed grunge and depressing music defined the 90s, and I pointed out that it did not. That's it. If anything, the 90s was defined by a lot of positivity, energy and hope for the future. The cold war ended, most of the retarded social issues the left had been kvetching about were mostly considered solved, and with the internet, or the "information superhighway", there was this idea that technology would make everything better (unlike today's dystopia), and would uplift the third world because they'd now have easy access to information. And yes, this was reflected in the pop culture, and lasted all the way up until 9/11.
>You went on a tangent to defend your JNCO core music
I pointed out that I didn't necessarily like the music I listed, and now you're claiming it's my type of music? Are you both illiterate and retarded? I even pointed out that I specifically listed bands from a single genre, just to show how many bands within a single genre made positive music that was made for dancing.
>there wasn't a good culture for FUN and enjoying hetero activity as a teen or adult
Yes, there was. It defined the 90s. This was mostly pre-internet, but more importantly pre-social media and pre-smart phone, which is what turned people into socially retarded shut-ins who hate fun. Sure, you had consoles and TV, but this wasn't something young people based their lives around, so they went outside to have fun, and went out drinking and partying on the weekends.
>No one is arguing the 90s didnt have music.
Who the fuck claimed anyone made that argument? Like I already said, the argument I was replying to was that 90s music was depressing grunge, which simply isn't true, given the enormous amount of superficial, positive dance music that was made. The 90s was the last fun decade.

I'm gonna take a guess and say >>213705167 is American and >> 213705175 is European, which is why you experienced nineties dominant music differently.

>>213705601
>I replied to a post that claimed grunge and depressing music defined the 90s, and I pointed out that it did not.

the hill you've been dying on all thread is basically "disco didn't define the 70s there was tons of other music!" no fucking shit. that doesn't change the fact disco defined the 70s.

>>213705316
>alternative
>best selling genre
Sounds like someone was lying, if they called the best selling genre "alternative".

>>213703046
Meanwhile in the underground what were you there for the ballads?

>>213699015
>Terran Academy scream

Even tho I'm a faggot zoomer it really feels like nothing cool has happened in society since like 1993

>>213705550
What is this? Is this a party anthem or song to fuck to?

Didn’t this come out the same weekend as Jurassic Park and it killed the movie?

>>213705815
A heartthrob for teenage boys. I remember it well, I was a man of 12 years of age.

>>213695490 (OP)
she was hot

>>213705815
Its your dream Aussie pixie gf.

>>213705879
Did that and Mortal Kombat, then fucked acting off and married Pete Sampras.

>>213705879
>veronica vaughn
>so hot
>want to touch the heiny

>>213705930
Never knew she married Pete Sampras.

>>213705930
She was in I Know What You Did Last Summer, The Wedding Planner, and Billy Madison.

>>213705930
And House On Haunted Hill

>>213699873
It just should have been a straight 80s action hero parody the isekai shit ruined it

>>213705637
No, dumbass. Disco defined the 70s to a far greater extent than grunge defined the 90s. Beyond disco though, the 70s also had an enormous amount of great, ironic rock bands and early metal bands, and also had a lot of music that carried over from the 60s, particularly within genres associated with hippies.
Granted, I wasn't alive in the 70s, but it is interesting that most of the popular bands and groups from that era which are still popular today primarily played rock music and not disco music. You know, what's become known as dad rock.

>>213705622
>American and >> 213705175 is European
WOW....astute observation.
That totally would explain it
And as we know, any place not America is a third-world country. Only America should be permitted on the Internet. Therefore >>213705167
is the only correct answer

>>213705637
No, dumbass. Disco defined the 70s to a far greater extent than grunge defined the 90s. Beyond disco though, the 70s also had an enormous amount of great, iconic rock bands and early metal bands, and also had a lot of music that carried over from the 60s, particularly within genres associated with hippies.
Granted, I wasn't alive in the 70s, but it is interesting that most of the popular bands and groups from that era which are still popular today primarily played rock music and not disco music. You know, what's become known as dad rock.

>>213700790
In Texas you could still buy $0.80 gas in 2000

>>213705550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV1XWJN3nJo

> NOT a party anthem
> NOT a "lets fuck" song
its an emo ballad....fucking snoooooze
i don't think you understand the difference between THAT and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcua9XzKVas

>>213706093
That explains it. You're a brown turdie.

>>213706156
Vids of people dancing are always cool.

>>213706162
seething europoor.....
All the media you enjoy comes from AMERICA

>>213705498
the fuck are you talking about, 90s house was sexy af and kicked ass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnT58cIJSpw

>>213695490 (OP)
in a way i think you might be right
early 1993 was the ultimate peak
triennium 1990-1992 (late 1989 to early 1993) was the ultimate peak indeed
the cynical nihilistic shit comes right along those 2 years 1993 and 1994 again which then takes to what the late 1990s were
1995 was the culmination of the actual 1990s with season '95/'96 being the enter of the new period of the late 1990s 1996-2001
with that said the 2000s (late 2001 to early 2008) were pretty fine again in their way
they were the opposite of the 1980s in a way and it was great
the 1980s had even too much "exuberance and positive charge" so much so they were corny and cheesy and you still can find that after

>>213700659
the 1980s ended in late 1989 with the fall of berlin's wall
that's where the 1990s enter kinda
the end of urss in 1991 was the peak of the situation

>>213706243
>seething that hard when called out
So what non-white shithole are you from if you have to larp as a left-wing caricature of an American?

This movie is a great parody but also a heartfelt love letter to action movies. Plus a coming of age story. Shame it flopped.

>>213695507
Joel Schumacher will sadly only be remembered for that batman movie.

>>213706337
Hell yeah brother! El reebok o el Nike.

>>213699687
Why cant movies have real effects like this now?

>>213699873
The father son dynamic is great though. Arnies acting improved a lot and showed some good range.

>rubber baby buggy bonkers, HA!

>>213706440
I still can't fathom that he made Falling Down.

>>213699980
How could Jack trust that guy he killed Mozart.

>>213706337
>, 90s house was sexy
it wasn't mainstream
it doesnt mog the prevalent music forms of the previous generations.
POINT STANDS
citing niche exceptions doesn't prove that 90'S MUSIC was fun, hedonistic or sexual. The contrary is true

>>213706528
He has the Richard Donner curse only remembered for 1 film even though your filmography is full of classics

>>213706156
Damn I haven't this jewish hoe posted here in a long time. She still sucking black dick on camera?

>>213706393
The Bush 41 years 89-93 are neither core 80s or core 90s

>>213705702
It was classified as alternative before it became the best selling genre, is the idea you’re too stupid to grasp. They didn’t reclassify it because that would’ve just confused people. It’s not like record stores moved the labels around in response to billboard figures.

>>213706823
sadly what you're used to
late 1990s ruined everything
they are indeed very 1990s core
1990-1995 are the actual 1990s

>>213698153
Passion is Christianity. Cynicism is..other things.

>>213706118
>Disco defined the 70s to a far greater extent than grunge defined the 90s

This only works if you do the hyper-autistic micro-genre bullshit where acts influenced by and successful because of grunge weren’t explicitly grungecore they were grungebreak or nugrunge or grungemetal or whatever other bullshit.

>>213706469
Insurance mostly.

>>213706894
Except alternative is a different genre. Have you ever listened to alternative rock or metal? It has nothing to do with grunge, which has been classified as basic bitch music for over 30 years.

>>213706953
>the hyper-autistic micro-genre bullshit
here's your whatchamacolit bullshit
> 1920s = swing
> 1930s = jazz / swing
> 1940s = big band
> 1950s = 'rock n roll'
> 1960s = british invasion rock
> 1970s = disco
> 1980s = MTV pop


AHHHH! NONONONONONO

>>213707123
>alternative rock
Depends on how fixated you are
Grunge = Nirvana
Alt Rock = Alice in Chains

to me and most non-incel autists, they're the same fucking band

>>213706953
What the fuck are you talking about? It's pretty much the opposite. You can probably count the big grunge bands on one hand. Maybe two hands if we include bands that did well, but didn't achieve full mainstream popularity and are only known to fans, or if we go in the completely opposite direction, one finger, as a lot of people only know Nirvana, and if they know others, they wouldn't know they're grunge or related to grunge.
Most people today would probably be able to list far more classic rock bands from the 70s (which was supposedly defined by disco), than they can grunge bands (which according to you defined the 90s), and the 90s are far closer in time than the 70s.

>>213706953
>>213707325
picrel for arguments sake
regardless of the europoors and their niche outpost music sharing of some EDM garage band

>>213706906
Bush 41 years weren't 90s grunge or 80s hair metal, it was both the end and beginning of decade defining trends

>>213707443
> Bush
>decade defining trends
didn't they make the same shitty music prevalent in the 90s, regardless of when they made it?

>>213702623
Yeah America had grunge, the Brits decided to go a different route with Britpop which was far more upbeat. I suppose Britpop gestated as early as the 80s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD6Pq0bSMPo&list=RDwD6Pq0bSMPo&start_radio=1

>>213707490
>Brits decided to go
NOBODY fucking listens to shit that isn't American, Mandrake
> The Stone Roses
LMAO...WTF IS THIS DOGSHIT??

ITT. horrible tastes in music. holy fucking shit

>>213707534
Oh you.

>>213707585
Back to /mu/, /tv/ has the best taste in music.

>>213703962
Motorcycles were cool in the 90's and early 00's.

>>213700033
Exactly this. Nobody liked Last Action Hero when it came out but over the decades it has gathered a cult following built on irony and nostalgia.

>>213707416
Oh boy. Two grunge albums among the top 50 best selling albums in the 90s.
https://bestsellingalbums.org/decade/1990
I would assume that list isn't completely accurate, but it still gives a good general overview. Seriously, where do you get this shit from? Do you base your views entirely on pop cultural articles and fictional depictions of the past?

>>213699980
When did Salieri get out of the nuthouse?

>>213700659
>TMNT came out I. 1990, the that is completely an 80s movie.
no, gremlins is a completely 80s movie. the cutoffs are the actual years

>>213706814
I only ever see her posted during the nfl season on /sp/

>>213695490 (OP)
I enjoyed the soundtrack.

>>213705550
>>213705815
>Lying naked on the floor

>>213707732
That's a queer looking cat.

>>213704216
Not to argue but I was a kid who'd seen Terminator a few times before Terminator 2 was announced let alone released. I don't think it's fair to say all 90's teens had never seen Terminator before T2. It was already a sci-fi classic.

>>213705879
>>213705930
Bridgette Wilson (Sampras)

>>213707732
Doppelgänger is kino.

>>213707991
I'm not going to argue that, but that implies you were born in the 70s, meaning you were an 80s kid. I'm old enough to remember the 80s, but I'm more of a 90s kid who grew up with 80s stuff (C64, NES), and in the actual 80s, I mostly watched Transformers, MASK, ThunderCats, He-Man and so on. I wasn't ready for "adult" movies yet.
I think the point I was making in the post you're referencing is that 80s media was popular well into the 90s, and defined the formative years of 90s kids and teens growing up long after the iconic 80s action movies came out.

>>213707991
Also, now that you mention it, I actually did watch The Terminator before T2. I only remember it because I have a memory of my older brother trying to explain the plot of T2 to me, and I kept asking him how the Terminator was around in T2 after being destroyed in T1.

>>213707991
My adult (now old) relatives lost their shit when they first saw the T2 teaser on the Total Recall VHS

>>213695490 (OP)
It was never the same

>>213702988
BASED

>>213707416
your hand has 24 fingers?

grunge changed popular music, period, and that change defined the 90s. by transitive property, grunge defined the 90s.

>>213710259
I bet you don't even have a single finger, you fucking pussy. I bet you typed your post with your pseudo-clit.

>>213708765
>tfw you will never ride on the vengabus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zbi0XmGtMw&list=RD6Zbi0XmGtMw&start_radio=1&pp=ygUJdmVuZ2Fib3lzoAcB

>>213700790

>With the age of the Internet, these shifts happen much faster because the information that shapes mass appeal is constant

The 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s and even the early 00s had very specific clothing and music. If you watch a film from 2009, it feels every bit the same as it would have if it was filmed in 2025 except for some more updated telephones.

Now carry that from 1980 to 1964. Or 1970 to 1954. Or 2000 to 1984. VERY different aesthetics.

Culturally we're completely stagnant.

>80s consumerism was sincerity
Alright I'm done.

>>213699892
>Top 10
He didn't make that many movies so by the bottom of the top ten you're getting into some not great movies

>>213705820
It’s almost a crime we never got that Arnold movie about the crusades directed by Verhoven

>>213710774
>Culturally we're completely stagnant.
show me girls in 2023 wearing tight hip huggers like they did in 2003
>2009
sounds like you're saying the world went to complete shit once Obamer was elected

>>213710392
its funny how "no my memories are the correct ones" fags like you always get pissy when you're wrong. every single time I've seen some retard try to tell anyone on 4chan the way it was back in the day, it just sounds like homer simpson rambling about jefferson airplane, starship, and some sort of hovercraft

>>213710774
Honestly everyday life in 2025 isn't drastically different than 1975. We're not living on another planet, we're not even traveling to other countries any faster. Socially is wildly different of course

>>213711179

2003 was too early for the internet to have an impact, it hadn't reached enough people. No smartphones either, to get on the internet you had to have the ability to navigate Windows.

>>213710774
I often make this point.
To use a point of reference that most people might know, look at GTA Vice City. It came out in 2002, and it was set in 1986. That's 16 years. Hell, it might as well have been set in 1989, and nothing would change, which would make it a 13 year difference, but the difference between 1989 and 2002 was enormous. It felt like two different worlds, separated by an entirely different era in the 90s.
If we go back 13 years today, that's 2012, and not much has changed since then. Social media and smart phones were already mainstream back then. Sure, we went through covid, some new wars, the global enemies changed a bit, and AI became something the degenerate slop-merchants embraced, but the major difference is just the woke shit. If you take away the woke shit, 2012 is pretty much the same as 2025. 1989 and 2002 are entirely different worlds, though.
>You're wrong.
Ok, to get back to my original point of reference, imagine a new GTA set in 2012. Would that be so different from a GTA set in 2025? Oh right, GTA 5 came out in 2013, and is set in that year, so it's basically the same thing as a GTA set in 2012, and people still play it today as a contemporary game. I doubt some zoomer faggot playing it today for the first time would even notice it's set 12 years in the past.

>>213695490 (OP)
Movie was a lot more based than it had any right to be

>>213696314
>filtered

>>213711277
Yeah, it's almost as funny as when zoomer faggots like you base their perception of the past on movies, propaganda and other bullshit pop cultural sources. Did you ever consider not being a retarded faggot?

>>213711317

You go through the motions of life in 2025 but you're less likely to have your own home, have a wife, have children, etc etc etc.

>>213711179
Not that guy, but have you been outside in the past few years? A lot of women wear those. I'm not sure why the fuck you would post that picture, given that it has nothing to do with your post.

>>213700659
I'd say the 2000s ended in 2011, with the Arab Spring causing the War on Terror to shift from Iraq and Afghanistan to everywhere in the Middle East

>>213700659
I would say the 90s ended Sept 11, 2001.

>>213711805
>>213711852
I'd say you're a nigger who can't do math.

>>213711805
The 2000s were one of the shortest decades. They lasted from sep 11 2001 to 2008. The recesssion, introduction of the smartphone and the "social media" version of the internet, and the rise of Obama ended the oughts and began the 20tweens, then Gamergate was the transition point between the 20tweens and the full on 20teens.

>>213712078
No, it was exactly as long as the other decades. 10 years.
Even by your dumbfuck standards, you're wrong, as it would be 2007, not 2008. And if we extent your retarded bullshit, the next decade would last from 2007 until 2014.
That's why you don't mix up cultural trends with decades, you dumb motherfucker.

>>213712078
Equating September 11 with MUH GAMEZERGATES.
Fuck everything.

>>213711793
>I'm not sure why the fuck you would post that picture, given that it has nothing to do with your post.

>>213711793
>have you been outside in the past few years? A lot of women wear those.
women in 2025 are all obese monstrosities
women in 2003 were TIGHT and slim. You would've been laughed off the planet if you showed up with a 2025 oogabootie back then

picrel. nothing at all related

>>213712210
>no akshtually....
thank you for your contributions to this thread, hall monitor kun

>>213711179
2010s were all about leggings. real ass flatters.

>>213712336
for me its cakefarts.

to you idiots that cant do calendars.
THE 2020's ARE GOING TO END ON JANUARY 1, 2030.
We will no longer be accepting submissions for 2020 memes after 12/31/29

>>213712401
>2010s were all about
big chunky badonkadonks

>>213710774
>If you watch a film from 2009, it feels every bit the same as it would have if it was filmed in 2025
i hear what you're saying, but i'm not sure you're being completely honest with yourself because we are in the forest on this (so close to living in these times) to appreciate what the 2020's will actually be seen as.
You say that current times are inseparable from the 2010s....

2020's are going to be seen as "life after covid" (with the hyper isolation/dependence on online socialization). We have 5 years and some change to be immersed in this.

If you were living in 1984, you would've thought there was no clear difference in your life from 1974. You wouldn't say that in retrospect from the position of 1990.

You say that "obama decade" is the same as today....but Electric vehicles, online 24/7, ZOOM meetings, m/f relationships diminishing because both men and women hate each other full-time now

>>213700442
>day 0 nofap

>>213711710
>anyone who points out my misrememberences of my past is actually just a young whippersnapper who just don’t know boy let me tell you what

The past is a big place and you were off the mainstream. You’re not thinking objectively. To anyone who was actually there you’re just speaking gibberish then getting angry when people point that out. This is common in dementia. Fun fact: Alzheimer’s disease used to just be called early onset dementia.

>>213712709
>appreciate what the 2020's will actually be

>>213712709
Ever since the social media became a widespread thing everything has been exactly the same.
It created a lowbrow consensus culture that polices wrongthought and is extremely superficial and performative.
That was the last major cultural change, everything after that is a slopscape.

>>213712378
Sure thing, Special Ed.

>>213712336
Do you even know what hip hugger are?

>>213712932
So you weren't there, and you're a sperg lashing out at someone who was there.

>>213713132
>Do you even know what hip hugger are?
low waist jeans
picrel. THIS lean body type is extinct in the mid 2020s.

>>213713097
>everything has been exactly the same.
take a deep breath and step back to view this, objectively.
> 2009 online impact on culture
is nothing like
> 2025 culture

You've zoomed into the present that you can't see the context you're viewing it in. Perhaps this is the first generation you've actually experienced in your life so you think this is how it always is. If you were born after late 90s, this is you.

the 2020s aren't even over, yet. We just got to the half-way point now. You will see how stark the difference is with today's censorship, deplatforming, hyper-sensitive politization of every fucking tweet, SJW, BLM tranny jannies dominated the post-COVID world.....that didn't dominate in 2010s.

>>213713420
Nah, it's the same shallow idiocy with parasocial relationships and so on. As soon as normies entered the internet sphere they created their e-culture revolving around inane nonsense and faux ghetto-speak.
It's evolving continuously but it's the same thing.

>>213713158
Really pathetic no you. I’ve been tested and no signs.

>>213713502
You’re replying to a namefag if you couldn’t tell. They’re all categorically retarded. His ego is on the line so he’ll never admit he’s wrong.

>>213713502
>Nah, it's the same shallow idiocy with parasocial relationships
if thats the way you feel, so be it. I am 51 years old. How old are you? If you're in your 20s, none of this will make any sense to you because you have codified all the previous generations and see current times as so dynamic. They aren't.

>>213713542
>I’ve been tested
Being tested is a sign in itself, but hopefully you're just shitposting at this point.

>>213713228
No, they're like those 70s bell bottoms, but tight around the hips. What, do you live in Mexico or some "diverse" shithole, considering you can't find women with normal proportions?

>>213713502
See?

>>213713634
Get tested bro. Denial will only make it worse for everyone unfortunate enough to have to be around you.

>>213700032
you're an actual regular moron

>>213713695
>No, they're like those 70s bell bottoms, but tight around the hips.
You're a lying motherfucker if you're gonna tell us there are tons of American girls wearing these in 2025

>>213695490 (OP)
The moview world was the best part. That should have been the whole thing. It didnt need the plot about the kid getting sacked into the movie. And it shouldn't have gone back to the real world.

>>213714028
If i'm being honest,
> BABY'S DAY OUT
had more suspense

>>213713867
Sure thing, you unaware faggot.

>>213713764
Right, you're so fucking autistic that you're actually forced to get tested and then try to project it onto normal people. That's a stellar sign of good mental health, buddy.

>>213714260
You don't know what postmodern means. You probably think it means some tranny faggot being a gay jew. It doesn't. Calling "self-aware postmodernism" an oxymoron is legitimately ignorant. You're dumb. One of the main defining elements of postmodern fiction is self awareness.

>>213700032
>>213713867
>>213714260
>>213714606
for fellow retards like the guy who thinks that "postmodern" means "gay jews", here you go
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodern_literature

>>213710774
>>213712709
>>213711577
2004-2014: Emo/scene/indie sleaze
2014-2024: Activist decade/woke/insincerity
2014-2034: Woke backlash/new sincerity

>>213706906
He's saying 93-early 97 (Clinton's first term) is slightly more accurate for Real 90s rather than 90-95. 94-95 was grungier (My So Called Life, Reality Bites, Clerks) than 90-92.

>>213708214
I think we're both right but where we differ is how we're defining "80's kid" or "90's kid" differently. I consider an "80's kid" as someone who lived their teenage years in the 80's and a "90's kid" as someone who lived their teenage years in the 90's. For example although you correctly assume I was born in the 70's I didn't turn 13 until 1991, I'm a 90's kid, my teenage years were the 90's. My older sister is an 80's kid, she lived her teenage years mostly in the 80's.
>>213708311
I saw Total Recall at my local cinema. They didn't care if you were underage as long as you had the money for an adult ticket. Shit was fucking awesome! I saw every early to mid 90's adult rated movie before any of the kids in my class (who had to wait for it to come out on VHS)

>>213714606
I know what post-modernism is, you dumb fucking retard. Are you so fucking stupid that you don't understand that claiming that it's an oxymoron means that the idiots who follow post-modernism and its absurd deconstruction bullshit, have no fucking clue what they're doing? Yeah, they do believe that they're self-aware, but they aren't, so I suppose from your dumbfuck perspective, my criticism of post-modernism is a second layer of post-modernism, because I'm deconstructing their false, misguided attempt at deconstruction.
You disgust me, you subhuman retard. Fuck off and choke on that kike Derrida's dick while you're at it.

>>213715619
I'd say you're a 90s teen, and that kid often means elementary school. "90s kid" memes usually have things like Power Rangers or pogs, gen x high schoolers didn't have those.

>>213715704
you're legitimately retarded.

>>213714292
Anon lashing out only drives people away from you. You’re going to need them soon. Publicly funded homes are a nightmare.

>>213711317
One thing that is *drastically* different is now due to mobile phones everyone (including employers) expects everyone else to be instantly contactable. You don't have the same "private me time, fuck off world" you used to have before mobile phones. Before, if you're employer expected you to pick up a phone at the drop of a hat you were paid an "on-call" fee to reflect the work you were doing in your private life/time to make sure you were always near a phone and ready to answer it. It used to be Doctors and other professional who did this and were paid for doing it, now some regular dude working in a convenience store is expected to do it...FOR FREE! I will often watch my smartphone ring and not lift it, I'll return a call when I'm good and ready. You're not paying me an on-call fee? I'm not on-call.

>>213715734
>I'd say you're a 90s teen, and that kid often means elementary school. "90s kid" memes usually have things like Power Rangers or pogs, gen x high schoolers didn't have those.
the biggest cultural distinction is their opinions on the star wars prequels. because gen x were all adults in 99.

>>213710774
That's a scary thought. A movie made in 85 is very different from a movie made in 95. Are we circling the drain culturally?

>>213695490 (OP)
maybe but this was the herald

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwxB3yogesA

>>213698909
this was the tits

>>213712709
How fucking young and/or ignorant are you? Most people who aren't kids and not complete retards, have been thinking about this for a long time. I'm an old fuck and since I've been a teenager I've been thinking about how the world I've been living in would be perceived in the future.
The cultural shifts that happened over the span of a decade were far more drastic up until the 2000s than they are today. The shift between 1989 and 2001 is much greater than the shift between 2014 and 2025. Hell, there's barely any difference, aside from woke ideology, but that was already established by 2014. And yes, I'm taking into account how the perception of time changes as you age. Maybe if you go back to the mid-2000s and compare it to the mid-2010s you'd get somewhere because of social media, smart phones and the birth of the woke anti-christ, but even then, it's mostly tied to technology and woke ideology, while the culture, music and fashion didn't change nearly as much as it did compared to previous eras, aside from zoomers zealously grabbing the torch and enthusiastically riding the wave of degeneracy straight into hell.

>>213710774
I remember someone once saw Minecraft trending #1 on youtube and remarked that we're in a cultural recession.

>>213715759
Projection isn't an argument, you utter retard.

>>213715789
>Publicly funded homes are a nightmare.
Yeah, I bet you're an expert on that, you section 8 faggot. I didn't know there were autistic niggers, though.

>>213695490 (OP)
>>213695507

>"WAY HAPPEN TO DE AMELICAN DLREAM? WAT HAPPEN SAAR"

You weren't even alive then nigger, you've probably never set foot on US oil in your life, at that. Things were quite literally amazing all throughout the 90s until the one two punch of the dotcom bust followed by 9/11. Keep posting bullshit from your shit hovel on the other side of the world though

>>213715893
Culture just means shared experience.

>>213715376
well cause early 97 is actually still the echo of the 1990-1995 that's what i'm saying
but you don't see it
no one does
no one remembers early 1990s
you ditch it entirely
i said late 1989 to early 1993 triennium 1990-1992 is peak but then things start to change again by 1993 and you start seeing all that stuff coming out that is going to be like protagonist of the late 1990s
but it's not over yet
you still have another triennium 1993-1995 (late 1992 early 1996)
that period you talk about surrounding 1996 (late 1995 to early 1997) yep that's an echo still but it's already late
again fall of berlin's wall is when the 1990s actually started to enter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diYAc7gB-0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SbUC-UaAxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2AitTPI5U0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftjEcrrf7r0

>>213699412
Are was made by artists once.

>>213716285
it’s really sad that all you have is “no you.”

>>213716206
>How fucking young and/or ignorant are you?
i'm 51. I'm saying exactly what you're saying....with one distinction
> the 2020s just STARTED
tell me 2009 is the same as 2025 ("2020s") when you're in the year 2033.

Of COURSE we don't think the current age is a stark contrast to the recent past compared to (ancient) history....because we're still LIVING in it

>>213716232
I'm right and smart, you're gay an retarded whining about a term juden peterstein bandied about. Postmodern elements of fiction have little to do with the french pedophiles involuted trash. The fucking simpsons is postmodern. You are stupid.

>>213712478
How. The. Fuck. Does she even stand up and walk around??

>>213716825
meds. For aches and irritable bowel.

>>213716206
To be fair the wokeshit 2014-2024 era literally just ended. The new 2024-2034 era has just started, give it some time and more differences will appear.

>>213716470
I didn't ditch lol I literally mentioned early 90s (Bush 41 years) as being 90-92/93. You're leaving out the mid 90s which spanned roughly late 93 to early 97 (Jurassic Park to Soundgarden's breakup). It didn't just go from early 90s to late 90s, late 90s started mid 97 (Spice Girls hit America).

>>213717644
i didn't ditch mid 1990s
i said the peak was '91/'92
1995 was the culmination of it
'95/'95 is that culmination i just mentioned still the entry of the late 1990s

>>213717732
>'95/'95
'95/'96*
sorry

>>213706469
That house exploding was CGI.

>>213699687
>2 days till retirement

>>213700442
>Bo-gus!
IYKYK

>>213720335
For me it's drug lord Jesus.
>On the third day He rose again from the dead

>>213714771
Where in that Wikipedia page is it written that post-modernism isn't just "gay jews"? Gay jew.