Thread 213740632

>make something original
Check
>with good story
Check
>with great settings
Check
>a horror movie
Check
>with unsettling atmosphere
Check
>with twist in the end
Check

This movie is a rare gem

>horror-comedy

Pass

>>213740658
pleb

>>213740632 (OP)
Too bad /tv/ got filtered and is instead talking about superman

Just saw it. It was very enjoyable. Better than barbarians

>>213740632 (OP)
it's a 5 of 10 bro decent watch but nothing to pog and shit and cum your pants over

>>213741290
retard

Movie would have been better if the weapon function had been the only use of her magic. Why even call it Weapons when the kids weren't being used as weapons?

Fuck off, it's shit tier. All hype and a bad middle with a soft payoff. It's like that Longlegs flick and I give that one a lot more credit.

Man it was so good to see a movie where the writing and acting and cinematography and music all sync'd up to just tell a good story again.
I miss movies so fucking much bros

>>213740632 (OP)
>This movie is a rare gem
where is torrent

>>213741514
it's mid bro
>>213741664
atleast longlegs had like 1-2 classic cage moments to elevate it

>>213740632 (OP)
check Dark Awakening, poster seems to predictive programming it

I enjoyed it. I see a lot of people here on /tv/ saying it’s terrible but I think they’re faggots who say everything is terrible.

>>213740632 (OP)
it literally had its ending changed because test audiences didn't like it lol

>>213741664
>>213741711
retards

>>213741706
its still in the theaters

>>213741752
What was the original ending?

>>213741562
Cognitively impaired post

>>213741810
no narration

plebs cried bcs no happy ending

cregger added narration about some of the kids getting better after a while

plebs clapped bcs happy ending

>>213741878
oh wait that stupid narration that contradicts the earlier narration wasn't originally supposed to be in there? no wonder it seems so out of place and dumb

>>213740632 (OP)
>with great settings
is this a movie or a thermostat?

>>213740632 (OP)
But will it have a physical release though? Barbarian infamously is unavailable on physical media

>>213741899
yes. it was added after test audiences couldnt deal with the "open (bad) ending"

>>213741755
t, weapon

aka a drooling naruto running mongoloid

Its essentially a comfy stephen king style tale. Nothing much more to it than that. Also some of the dialgoue/acting was TURRIBLE

>>213742125
The plot in general was shit. 'Life goes on' after some kids disappear is an okay concept but to have them stashed at some sus as fuck house was stupid as fuck. The actors couldn't save the bad writing.

>>213742099
>>213742262
retards

>>213742262
Yeah, I'm genuinely shocked the screenplay is getting so much praise like it really felt like a made for tv movie you'd see in the 80s

>>213742279
calm down cregger

>>213742300
>80s boomercuck thinks elm street slop was the peak of cinema
kek kys

>>213740632 (OP)
>My local indie kinoplex is showing The Naked Gun and not this
Wtf bros I don't want to go to the normie slophouse to see this

>>213742395
>incoherent zoomer gibberish

>>213742395
I wasn't complimenting it when I said it felt like a made for t v movie from the eighties, retard

>>213740632 (OP)
I kek'd so hard during the faggot scenes

Very nearly missed the start. Every other movie I've watched this year had 30 mins of adverts/trailers so I always turn up late. But for some reason this movie only had 10 minutes, make of that what you will.

>>213741562
They were at the end? Did you watch the movie?

>>213740632 (OP)
>make something orginal
Hardly even
>with good story
Kek
>with great settings
A small town
>a horror movie
What scared you zoomie?
>unsettling atmosphere
Not nearly warranted when the movie wastes it for 1 on 1 expositions like at a bar or a school
>twist in the end
Really laughable and unoriginal

Watch more movies tranny

3 more weeks until tv finds out it might be overhyped

it was kino and justine was very tempting

>>213743347
it was a decent watch. hardly kino

>>213740632 (OP)
It was very good. It's the kind of film where you could see how mundane it could end up if another director made it:
>The witch needs to explain where she came from and what her goals are.
>We also need a scene where the kid explains to the two adults what's going on.
>No skipping from one character to the next, just have the film go from A to B.
>The witch needs more appearances with her splotchy make-up. That's our new horror icon!
>No need to spend so much time on the characters' personal lives. Whenever the witch isn't on screen, everyone should be asking "where's the witch?"
But seriously it was nice to watch a film like this. It's always more interesting when you get the impression that it was a more personal vision and not something designed by a committee.

>>213740632 (OP)
Was it worth killing Trevor?

>>213740632 (OP)
I preferred Get Out and Sorry To Bother You but it was still neat. Benedict Wong deserves award consideration, dude went from wholesome gay to terrifying.

>>213741878
The narration definitely felt tacked on for people who can't pay attention or sit with their thoughts.

>three threads
Very subtle lol.

You guys blow everything to extremes. The movie was fine.

all the threads about this are made by bots and paid shills btw

>>213744912
make another superman thread with twitter memes faggot

>>213740632 (OP)
What was the twist at the end? What's going on is shown at around 60% of the film, and it's more of a straight reveal, not really a twist.

>>213743615
I seriously expected her to eat the children one by one over time to sustain herself (would make perfect sense in European Witch lore as well), but that's not what she does. She just has them in the cellar for absolutely no reason.

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>>213745107
retards

>>213745775
She's sucking out their energy/life/souls/whatever.
She outright says that the parents weren't enough and she needs the kids to "get better".
At the end her hair is in visibly better condition. She was starting to get younger when she got discovered.
So it wasn't for "absolutely no reason". They just didn't spell it out for the audience.

>>213745896
retard, I didn't even said the movie is bad, I just said that the movie doesn't really have a real twist. It has reveals, a reveal CAN be a twist, but doesn't have to be. A (shitty) twist would've been for example that the children were never missing and the teacher just imagined the whole movie.

>>213745966
And also that the reason her plan was so sloppy (even unrealistic that they wouldn't catch her immediately) is that she thought the parents would be enough. And explicitly only went for the kids after she started sickening again, and that she was always planning to flee the town when the cops closed in after she'd sucked all the life she could get away with. I mean there's still a lot of weaknesses in the plot but it was pretty clear that her plan was always to suck out life force to cure her cancer for a while and then escape.

>>213746036
>plan was so sloppy
it's an allegory for tolerance and desperation of an addict.

>>213740658
it's not. it's a horror movie with maybe 3 or 4 jokes.

>>213745974
People here kept saying a witch being behind everything was the twist, I think they must have read the leaked script and interpreted it that way but yeah in the movie it's not a surprise at all

>>213745966
ok, fair, that even say that in the movie, I should've wrote it differently: The mechanics behind it are so unclear, it seems random.

Also she immediately starts with 17 children, not like 1 or 2, which makes it incredibly suspicious and draws a MASSIVE target on the one child left behind and its family, that it borders on a plot hole how little scrutiny they get.

>>213746101
Yeah I think you're right. I also noticed all the "parasite" imagery (documentary on television, class lesson on parasites). Probably more than one angle being worked thematically, probably some commentary on suburbia which I missed.
>>213746104
That's another thing I appreciated. As someone who normally hates horror comedy, this flick kept the horror and comedy "segregated" so that they didn't step on each other's toes. The comedy was just in the druggies segment (immediately before the darkest parts of the movie, almost as a palette cleanser) and in a moment of catharsis at the climax. That's how it's done best.

>>213740632 (OP)
I liked it a lot
I especially liked how well written the characters were, they had dimensionality. Justine wasn't just le virtuous teacher, she had problems, was sometimes naughty, sometimes obnoxious. I liked how Josh Brolin was both kind of a bully and also a bit of a fuck-up, and how his son apparently took after him, bullying Alex. I liked how Alex's dad had a bit of personality to him, not so subtly implying how he'd hoped Gladys would be dead within the month. Not just bland dorky dad or whatever, there was something interesting there.
Benedict Wong as the gay principal with a twink husband who'd prance around the grocery store asking which brand of fruity pebbles he preferred. How the principal both defended Justine to Brolin but also clearly was irritated with her, too.
Alden Ehrenreich seeming like a mostly good dude but being a weak personality, a recovering alcoholic prone to fits of anger, with a domineering 'sam brown in a dress' type wife.

Idk. As another anon posted if this were done by another director it could have been really bland. These characters and their rich personalities really made the whole thing shine.

>>213746218
>this flick kept the horror and comedy "segregated"
precisely. it was true moments of comic relief. I think modern filmmakers have lost touch with that, as a concept

>>213746146
Imagine the druksex

>>213745896
Have standards

this was just okay. i think bring her back does more with a similar premise

Didn't the opening narration say that they never found the children again? Well, that was a fucking lie.

>>213746477
I think it said "and they never came back"
which, they didn't. they were found, I guess.

Let's say it was a lie though, so what?

>>213746501
it's a nitpick, but I was more invested because I think people completely disappearing is very creepy.
Also, it's just a weird thing to do to lie to the audience in an opening narration, it's a place to set up the facts known in-universe and the narrator seems to tell the story from the viewpoint of a person who knows everything about it after the events already took place.

>>213746501
And they were still insane/catatonic at the end (which is actually a nice touch not to make it too happy)
If you found your kid after a month but they're 100% unresponsive with a belly full of Campbell's Noodle Soup and Witch Meat, that's not quite "back".

>>213746624
>it's just a weird thing to do to lie to the audience in an opening narration
well. not really, the unreliable narrator is a fairly common trope.
"they never came back" is an acceptable way to describe what happened. the kids all left the house and, to our knowledge at the time, never returned.

You could argue the girls narration was following the story along with us. I mean, if you are going to accept some sort of omniscient narrator to begin with, what does it really matter?
>>213746632
agree completely

>>213746711
That's why a clarified that the narrator here tells us that the events are already over. It's not that she is in the middle of the events or there is information she can't possibly know at that moment that she speculates on.
Yes, a narration in the beginning can tell "a lie" when they assume information in the story they can't know. 'I just moved in Mr. X former flat. Mr X is dead for 7 years at this point', but mid-story it is revealed that he just faked his death. That wouldn't make sense when the narrator tells the story 20 years later and witnessed Mr X coming back.

>>213740632 (OP)
I think there was only one black person in the movie, and it was only for one shot. Not bad, but we can do better.

>>213746866
>That's why a clarified that the narrator here tells us that the events are already over
I don't recall getting that specific implication that the events were already over.
I mean, I only saw the movie once, maybe you're right. It just didn't really bother me I guess, if so.
>>213746906
my girlfriend mentioned this

>>213741562
Just like barbarian, the title of the movie is likely chosen so it doesn't give any of the plot away. Would you have preferred it was called "Witch"?

>>213746913
she says something like "The newspapers kept it a secret" and "several people died horrifically in the process", if I recall correctly.

I just watched it and come on, anyone who thinks the ending ruins the movie is a certified lamer

>>213746947
But do those two details imply the events of the film have already fully taken place? I don't think they do

>>213746969
The people died at the end of the movie? All the deaths are within like the final 12 hours of the story, aren't they?

>>213746968
It's a risk turning the villain into a joke but it was cool

>>213746996
Hmm. I guess so. But that's still before the children were found, lol.
"People died" is extremely vague. Who knows–maybe there are parts alluded to which we don't even see in the film?

>>213741699
>watches a good movie
>bro i miss good movies
you faggots will never be content

>>213746941
there is a lot of space between a title that reveals everything and a title that has nothing to do with the movie.

2:17 AM, could be a title. The Classroom, The Disappearance, The Maybrook 17, The Runaways

>>213747117
>2:17 AM, could be a title. The Classroom, The Disappearance, The Maybrook 17, The Runaways
Yeah dude those are great ideas you should totally make movies and name them things

WHO FUCKING CARES

>>213747024
and she wouldn't know how the newspapers would react in the days, weeks and months after the events

>>213740632 (OP)
I liked it. Not usually a horror fan but I'm watching it because Zach Cregger. Think I'll give Barbarian a try next, never watched that when it came out.

>>213747155
Can you specifically cite where she alludes to months after? All the wording seemed more vague than that, to me.

Also, again. Are we just accepting that an omniscient narrator is..idk, corporeal?

>Movie promoted to be crazy weird
>It's some old woman using voodoo dolls
lol.
lmao.

Absolute shit movie.

>>213747216
>Movie promoted to be crazy weird
How do you mean?

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>>213747117
retards

>>213747255
Let me gather all my thoughts and send you something of real value.

Psych. Eat shit. All the advertisements had it coming off as something insane and supernatural, not ''grown up Goosebumps episode''.

I will not elaborate if you don't have the mental facilities to understand.

>>213747292
It was insane and supernatural

>>213747330
>I'm poking... voodoo dolls! hehehe!
Yeah I shit my pants at how scary it was lol.

>>213747199
why are you so adamant that this isn't the case?

Ok, the timeline:
>The narration mentions 3 things I recall: The news buried it, people died horrifically and the children never returned
>The people died on the last day of the event.
Nobody died before in the movie, even if the narrator thinks the children are already dead after day 1 of the disappearance, how can she possibly know it was in a horrific way?
>The reaction of the news media to the event can happen at the earliest the day after the last day of the event because the event is the disappearance and the deaths
She doesn't even have to be omniscient to know this as a narrator, just be a normal person involved in the event, which she seems to be.
So the narrator must be talking to us at least 1+ day after the final day of the events (most likely longer, because she says how the news will react in the time after it). I was searching for the opening narration as the exact text, but couldn't find it.

>>213747142
Titles are very strong marketing tool, shocking revelation.
Shawshank Redemption was massively hurt by its title at the box office.
The Beach Boys suffered from their band-name for 50+ years because they couldn't establish themselves as a progressive music act because of it and hurt their career massively in the long run.

really strong first 3/4 but the end yet again was about witchy woo stuff when it could have been about MKULTRA and slightly hint at the weird shit surrounding Sandy Hook (the men in nun uniforms nearby) which it sort of was. I thought it might have gone in that direction because of the floating assault rifle. Also 2:17 look it up in the bile.

>>213747469
>Could have been MKUltra stuff
Or literally anything else other than ''old lady playing with voodoo dolls''.
Fucking terrible.

>>213746941
I would have preferred more than one scene of a zombie hauling ass across town to kill someone.

>>213747437
>Titles are very strong marketing tool, shocking revelation
The movie is doing well so you don't have a point.

Also the artist doesn't exactly owe you an explanation.

>>213747363
I'm not.. I'm just asking you to support your claim.
And in doing so maybe see how speculative your nitpicking is

>>213747516
>Also the artist doesn't exactly owe you an explanation.
I didn't claim he has to. Why are you so fucking angry if someone thinks the title of a movie is bad. Just like someone thinks the acting is bad, or the writing is bad or the sound-design is bad. You are on a movie discussion board, idiot.

>>213747585
>Why are you so fucking angry
Lol. Did you read anger in my post? Relax, dude.

>>213747610
the all-caps and the "he doesn't own you an explanation" are a big reveal that you are angry for some reason

>>213747657
>dude if you use all caps for emphasis you are big wrong. This proves I am in turn correct
Toughen up kid.

>>213746941
It wasn't just the title. Why did Josh Brolin see a giant gun in his dream? It was telling him that his son could be used as a weapon if the witch chose to, but really was just feeding on his life force or whatever?

>>213740632 (OP)
To think one of the guys from The Whitest Kids U Know wrote and directed this.

>>213747705
I can take your big letters on /tv/, no worries, it's just pathetic to become so emotional because someone thinks the title of a movie is bad.

>>213747730
NTA
Movies don't have to be literal. Cregger said that specific image was inspired by David Lynch.

I'm not saying this makes the movie good, but I am willing to accept a bit of abstraction.

Additionally, what does 'Weapons', as a title, mean?
The story of the missing kids was 'weaponized' against institutions. The school, the police force.

>>213747768
If you can't handle a simple conversation without resorting to ad hoc I think you should leave.

>>213747761
That makes sense though. A bunch of admittedly funny toilet humor doesn't translate to making good horror.
You can kind of sense it in even the serious scenes they seem like a kind of joke and not all that serious.
He's not a good director and he's not a good writer.
Needs to go back to doing sketch comedy with that fat fuck Timmy.

>>213747838
let's rewind a bit: You implied that a title can only be the Weapons or "The Witch" and spoil the reveal. I wrote some other titles that doesn't spoil anything and you immediately became passive aggressive and sarcastic and wrote:
>Yeah dude those are great ideas you should totally make movies and name them things
>WHO FUCKING CARES

Fun and engaging conversational skills you are having here, are you giving seminars on constructive communication?

>>213747818
>The story of the missing kids was 'weaponized' against institutions. The school, the police force.
That is your interpretation of the title and the events of the movie? Is the school and police force getting some flak not completely appropriate, 17 children are missing and they have no leads.

>>213747818
It was weaponized against the police force? What?

>>213747900
You gotta relax and stop trying to win internet points. I'm just trying to have a conversation with you dude.
>>213747944
Yeah it's just an interpretation.
If the title is interpretive what is your response?

>>213747968
Oh, sure. The cops couldn't explain a supernatural occurrence, and the general public was infuriated. Justine demands what are you guys actually DOING", as is police procedure should readily explain the goings on of a literal witch.

The cops are seen as incompetent.

>>213748011
>I'm just trying to have a conversation with you dude.
You are really bad at that, if that really is your intention. Horrifically bad. Instant dismissal and antagonism for absolutely no reason.
And believe me, I don't care about "internet points", how could that even be the case here? You seem to want to look like an internet-tough-guy who is too cool for a normal conversation

>>213748077
>all this projection

>>213748040
how could the town possibly know that something supernatural is going on?
>Welp, it's witchcraft 100%, lets get the cops some coffee for being so mean to them

>>213741878
plebs are based
you're just a jaded faggot

>>213748105
They couldn't. I'm not assigning blame to the town people; they are victims.
The witch, Gladys, is responsible for the chaos.

what a great movie. i was worried whenever they revealed the cause at the 3/4 mark but they ramped up the tension after that well enough and gave us a delicious payoff at the very end.

>>213748092
>projection
>internet points
can you talk without using internet cliches form 5+ years ago and actually defend yourself, this is so sad.

>>213748173
you're being ridiculous is my point

>>213748132
but the witches intention never was to sew chaos or fuck with the town or school or police? She just wanted life force from some victims, if the town didn't even realize it's happening it would even be in her interest?

>>213746136
She didn't want to suck kids dry and kill em that's why she needed as many as she could

>>213748207
>but the witches intention never was to sew chaos or fuck with the town or school or police
Why not?

>>213748226
because it is never implied in any way in the movie?

>>213748243
It's like I'm arguing with children.

Do you suppose, given the information present in the story, we know everything about how this witch should operate?
Obvious answer: "No."

>>213746146
She is incredibly dangerous, most men would relapse indefinitely for a woman like this

>>213748274
no, but you are concocting an entirely different motivation of the witch that is not even implied. She only wants to take the life-force of the parents and stay hidden in the house until she is healed, it's her goal she expresses both vocally and in action, after that doesn't work (not enough life force) she kidnaps children and hides everything in the house.

Do you think the actual motivation of Buffalo Bill in Silence of the Lambs was to give Clarice a promotion?

>>213748533
>but you are concocting an entirely different motivation of the witch that is not even implied
No I'm not. I'm describing what happened, in the film.

>>213748559
and Clarice got a promotion at the end of Silence of the Lambs, therefore Buffalo Bill planned to get captured, killed and promote Clarice that way.

>>213748576
I'm not saying the witch intended for the case to be weaponized in the way it was; I'm saying that's just what happened.

who got it in their head that fake arguments on /tv/ would create the sense of this place not being deader than disco?

These posters make me laugh instead of scared because all I can think of is the area 51 Naruto running each time I see it

>>213748602
I'm convinced it's shills who are trying to promote the movie by making obviously bad points against it which are easily rebuked. It keeps the thread bumped and makes the movie look good.

>>213740632 (OP)
Smile mogs.

>>213748762
hahaha

>>213745966
>She's sucking out their energy/life/souls/whatever.
what does that mean. they don't appear to have suffered any physical distress whatsoever. if your sucking out someone's "life energy" from replenish your own, shouldn't the other person appear to have less life energy when the process is over?

HEHEHEHE! I'M A WITCH! HAHAHEHEHEHE!
I can CONTROL KIDS with a VOODOO DOLL!
HEHEHEHEHE

Fucking Johnny Quest ass plot fucking pathetic.

>>213740632 (OP)
>Witch is an ugly old jew
KINO. The only roles they should play
>The devil, vampires, demons, witches, goblins

>>213748785
*you're, obviously

The movie was fine, I just dont get why the title is called Weapons.

>>213747216
>>213747292
Agreed, I heard that as well.
I thought it'd be like hereditary at least but nope, adult goosebumps episode fits perfectly

>>213748846
This is a totally real post and real opinion, haha

>>213748929
>E-E-E-EVERYTHING IS A PSYOP!
>IF IT DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME IT'S PROPAGANDA!
>I STOPPED TAKING MY PILLS 2 WEEKS AGO!

Get help.

>>213748963
Unhinged response

its a movie designed to be talked about but there is nothing to talk about it's just another stupid fucking movie designed to be talked about

The opening narration calls Justine "Mrs. Gandy," so I was waiting a while to learn who her husband was, until I just decided the kid narrating it probably just fucked up slightly.

Kid actors being shit and unreliable makes me think about how well the Alex segment is handled. Maybe 15 minutes of the movie are shown from Alex's point of view, but he probably only has, like, ten lines in that time. It feels completely natural for a kid in that situation, but it has the added bonus of giving the child actor very few opportunities to screw up.

>>213749152
i hate "creepy kid" tropes because of how bad kid actors usually are and how cookie cutter it is but they didn't have any of that bullshit with alex

>>213742862
thanks for the heads up.

>>213748846
>I thought it'd be like hereditary

Ok so in josh brolin's dream, why does he see a giant ar-15 floating on top of Alex's home? There's the whole metaphor for school shooting angle, was that it?

>>213749254
He was looking for a smoking gun.

>>213749254
he's american we all dream about AR-15s. shithole country dogs wouldn't get it.

>>213749254
I don't get where all this talk of school shooting comes from, is this just because of the title and there's school?

>>213749254
Sandy hook

>>213749436
Bunch of kids in a single class dissapear. Town is in shock, parents are frustrated and wondering how the teacher never noticed anything wrong, trying to find an explanation, school closes, a bunch of councelors are called in, teacher feels guilty. Really doesn't sound similar to what happens post school-shooting at all to you?

>>213749493
>Really doesn't sound similar to what happens post school-shooting at all to you?
Kinda but not specifically?

>>213749436
It's especially funny because why does it matter? MAGAfags get upset when you say school shootings are bad but don't get upset at actual school shootings.

>>213749576
Holy shit dude lmao, stop.

>>213749254
i think there was alot of misdirection
>parasites
>assault rifle imagery
>kids missing = massive child harvest for trafficking rings like sandyhook

>>213749576
it must be terrifying for you that colblart will no longer be on tv telling you what to think soon.

>>213746104
the 2 or 3 jokes that are in the movie are laugh out loud
my theater was losing it seeing the old lady being chased by the children

>>213750034
Yeh, mine too. I personally didn't find that part all that funny. I thought the image of possessed kids running through glass windows, walls was more disturbing, or invigorating than funny.
Laughed at the obvious gag of the crackhead not dying, and Brolins WHAT THE FUCK though.

>>213750150
to me the comedy came from the absurdity of the visuals, a bunch of kids busting through windows and doors like its nothing.
and the resolution reminded me to the halloween episode of smiling friends.
the crackhead getting back up over and over was also hilarious.
the only actual gross out part to me or that it made me flinch was the cop being stabbed by needles. needles are a big no for me in general

>>213740632 (OP)
Saw it last night. It was fun. Subverted expectations and Brolin and Garner acted well. The reveal was kind of easy to guess but it was pretty well done and I even liked the multiple viewpoints storytelling.

>>213749850
>>213749624

>>213749254
I don't remember it being Alex's house, but maybe you're right.
I think you have to think about what a gun represents to a guy like Archer -- a regular guy with a family who lives in a small town/suburb. Maybe a guy like that primarily thinks of firearms as something you use to protect your home and your family, and fend off intruders.
Archer's son Matthew has mysteriously disappeared. Archer views this as a failure to protect his son properly. In his dream, the symbol of Archer's protection (the gun) is marred by the symbol of his failure (2:17).
I had thought he dreamed about the gun floating over his own house, not Alex's, but I admit I don't remember clearly.
Also, I don't know if someone like Archer would actually own a rifle resembling the one in the dream, but maybe Cregger doesn't, either.

>>213741290
lol yeah its mid af. absolutely mind boggling how people are losing thier shit over this

>>213750373
retard

Overhyped? Yes.
Good? Yes.

>>213750310
>just open the borders back up, PLEASE!!
nah, get fucked lol

>>213750373
reddit is waiting for you, kiddo

>>213740632 (OP)
>with twist in the end
But there was no twist?

>>213749254

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt26581740/trivia/?ref_=tt_dyk_trv

>Archer has a nightmare involving Matthew and a strange, large, floating assault rifle hovering in the sky over their house. Interestingly there is a poster of a large assault rifle in Matthews room, on the wall directly across from his bed where Archer is sleeping, perhaps partially contributing to Archer seeing this in the dream.

I didn't notice the poster. I took it as Archer's anger manifesting in his dream. Josh Brolin needs more roles as a general contractor. He fits the part so goddamn well. Pedro Pascal would've moped around the entire time.

>>213740632 (OP)
What they did to the boy never sit well with me.
Boy suddenly acting quiet in school should have raised alarms. Boy buying soup? alone? Father not behaving right? Mother a stone cold bitch?

That aside it was an effective montage. I liked the part where Alex crossed the salt line. He was tormented by what the parasite was doing to his family and community and knew he had to no other choice but to do something. Stood by his parents, fed his bully, even asked the witch if a hospital could fix her. Good kid.

The toxic masculinity in this movie was sickening.

does he ever get on-screen looking like this?

>>213751149
>Boy suddenly acting quiet in school should have raised alarms.
That's true, but I think one statement the movie is making is that people are increasingly isolated from each other, to the point that neighbors are often unapproachable near-strangers. It's viewed as inconvenient and taboo to sound the alarm about someone else's child in this town.
Justine reaches out to Alex, but the extent of her power is to do the "you know you can talk to me about anything" bit. Gladys tells Alex she'll know if he talks to anyone about what's going on at home, so he shuts down Justine's attempt to help him. Gladys's plan is only upset by Justine's meddling after Justine bypasses the prescribed methods of intervention -- she ignores explicit instructions by both a police officer and the school principal to stop investigating, and her investigation kicks off the chain of events that lead to Alex getting free of Gladys.
I think it's interesting that, IIRC, Gladys doesn't actually demonstrate any ability to spy on Alex, so she could be bullshitting, but he can't afford to test her. Aside from the supernatural horror, Gladys and Alex's home situation is like a real dysfunctional household.

>>213746906
no, it's okay, the school principal was also black, plus the fat asian homo it's Oscar eligible

>>213741290
here come the tastemakers to tell us what's right, make sure to take note everyone

was slightly bummed that my prediction from the start was correct but it doesn't exactly hide it either, it wants you along for the ride and laughs. impressive how much they efficiently squeezed in just the last 20 minutes for Alex's whole chapter

>>213741562
What? Why would she let the kids be exposed when her whole plan is to keep them hidden? The weaponizing is a contingency, also unsure if she can control them after they go berserk. And in the end they do become weapons. But outside of the story, they maybe couldn't get away violence against kids, it usually hurts a movie's appeal.

>>213741664
Longlegs sucks ass so your opinion doesn't matter

if one goes full schizophrenic and marries the child sacrifice qanon shit with the other parallels to school shootings i guess a sort of message goes through
children are being controlled by demonically influenced adults to kill other kids in these mass shootings and our hard held beliefs in the death of god have blinded us from spiritual threats
they are sucked of their life energy by adults who deal with the devil who are the ultimate benefactors of the deaths
people can resist and fight back if they work together, but with the death of god they must do so on the demons turf
a sequel in this schizomind would bring the return of god as a protective force that only interferes so much allowing free will
the trilogy doesnt happen because they raid the DUMBS to SAVE DEM KIDS while jesus returns shredding free bird or w/e he chooses to appeal to zoomers as

>>213746136
Why would you take kids 1 or 2 at a time? There would be intense security and the parents would on guard, where as abducting all at once and the heat being put on the teacher? Dude try critically thinking for 1 minute it feels like explaining a movie to a woman.

>>213746146
>have thick conservative pilattes wife
>have affair with drunk potentially child-abduction/killer ex

>>213747216
To be fair there hasn't been a good movie about a witch in awhile.

>>213747292
I don't understand what ads said it was "insane." Normies find it unique and freaky, but entertaining, which is what matters. I don't know what you want dude. But you're right that it is like a graphic goosebumps episode lol though that's where a lot of the fun of it is.

>>213749254
there's an interview where he says he himself had a dream like that and so he put it in his movie, that's the cool part about being a director

>>213748785
They are catatonic at the end. The parents have it the worst, some of the kids are starting to get better.
How is that not being damaged from the ordeal?
And honestly, it doesn't matter that much. We don't need to know the mechanics of what exactly happens, it's not relevant to the plot.

>>213753112
I don't think it's that extreme besides "forces are radicalizing and victimizing our youth" which is just objectively true. But it's a lot like the weather where you can't exactly trace it beyond a certain, local point.

yooo bluds straight up yeeting and unaliving that bih ahh boomer was crazy work no cap

https://youtu.be/LCYr6SL5UOI?t=295
>Like subtext is subtext again in that it can be about whatever you want it to be about and it's a movie.
Look, I am very done with horror as some sort of didactic, you know, tool. Like I don't need to go see a horror movie and feel like well I didn't learn a lesson so it can't be good and like honestly I'm done with it.
>This movie is something deeply personal to me and it does have substance to me and I don't really give a fuck if everybody understands what I'm saying with it. That's okay. As long as people are having a blast and they're scared and they're laughing and they walk out, they feel like it was satisfying and a good story, then that's the point. You know what I mean? And that's enough.
based Creggy

>Zomg it's telling the story from a different character's perspective
>Zomg it's a boomer witch
>Zomg it's the blonde Karen who can't act
Best horror movie of 2025 hands down!

>>213753435
Nah Zach is a mewling cuckhold who absolutely wanted to make some sort of leftist political commentary but is too weak willed to stand by it knowing that specifically verbalizing The Message will just drive away potential viewers

>>213746136
She certainly seemed like a greedy and short-sighted person. I'm guessing she was desperate or just an idiot by nature.
We can assume that she's done this before, since she talked about consumption. She's very old and has prolonged her life using this magic before. She thought that using the parents would be enough but it wasn't. My guess is that she's so old that she needs a more massive boost of life (or whatever she's draining them of) and just goes "let me get as many kids as possible". It wasn't smart, but either she wanted as much as possible as soon as possible, or she was just so arrogant that she didn't think of the consequences.
A bit like how she could have killed the teacher when she was asleep in the car, but instead took her hair and got her boss to kill his partner and chase her down. That's not a smart way of doing it, but she's a witch, not a genius serial killer. She obviously didn't care too much about whatever chaos she spread, she just wanted that child life energy.
I will agree that the police might have wanted to check out the sole remaining kid whose dad suddenly suffered a stroke leaving him unable to talk. But then again, it's small town police, and they talked to the family and went through their house. The kid went to school every day afterwards. The missing kids left by themselves, there wasn't really any sign of a crime taking place. It's not completely unreasonable to think that they wouldn't spend much time on a kid who didn't have anything interesting to say - he was as clueless as all the parents and the teacher. But yeah, not the strongest part of the plot.

>>213753369
i mean if i put more effort into thinking about it there might be stuff about teachers catching most of the flack but home life being so unaware that their kids stockpiled Weapons(2025) for the attack itself
cops being incompetent, slow to act, and troubled, but ultimately their service still being noble and difficult

but demons are more fun

>>213740632 (OP)
Just found out about this film and that apparently it was made by Zach from WKUK, wasn't aware that he had a successful directing career, from WKUK I would have thought he would have rather taken the career path of an actor since he was the best actor out of the five while Trevor was the best writer/comedian out of the five.

>>213743954
He didn't kill Trevor and I don't get what leads people to believe this.
The reason Zach got budget was simply because he's a pedophile like most people in high places in Hollywood.

>>213753582
I was wondering if maybe Gladys was wanting to use Justine as a mind controlled weapon, but Justine was just too strong willed to be controlled given Gladys's weakened state, so the mind control failed, prompting her to send Marcus out to kill her (most of the people she mind controlled were either children or people who had displayed some sort of weakness of will - Paul relapses and cheats and has a bad temper, James is an impulsive drug addict, Marcus acts like a pushover who struggles to assert control). But Gladys was able to control Archer, who seemed similarly stubborn and strong willed, so that explanation wouldn't hold up.

>>213740632 (OP)
what's the twist? I don't like bad endings.

>>213753969
I wouldn't say there was really a plot twist. There was a reversal, but not like a Shyamalan style "omg you mean he was dead all along??" tweest

>>213753937
That's certainly possible. Maybe her being drunk constantly played a part?
I think it's also possible that she got nervous that Marcus insisted on seeing the parents that she just wanted both Marcus and Justine out of the way at the same time. I can't remember where the Justine hair-cutting fit in on the timeline with the Marcus meeting.

>>213753582
Well she is their aunt and unless the mother was already under her spell when we first met her (i can't recall) she knew her growing up
She got sick, and likely went through a lot of treatment through conventional medicine and then resorted to witchcraft is my guess
Parents are the first victims, they aren't enough to cure her ailment, mass kidnapping ensues and it goes south bc she was sloppy, greedy, and new to the gig
Killing her outside of the house where the kids are complicates her situation, a random psychotic episode unrelated to the disappearances throws off her scent

I'm hoping the sequel leaves these questions up in the air, and instead focuses on a more experienced witch with more spells

>>213753582
Well she is the mothers sister and unless the mother was already under her spell when we first met her (i can't recall) she knew her growing up
She got sick, and likely went through a lot of treatment through conventional medicine and then resorted to witchcraft is my guess
Parents are the first victims, they aren't enough to cure her ailment, mass kidnapping ensues and it goes south bc she was sloppy, greedy, and new to the gig
Killing her outside of the house where the kids are complicates her situation, a random psychotic episode unrelated to the disappearances throws off her scent
Kid not cracking under investigation was iffy for me

I'm hoping the sequel leaves questions about gladys up in the air, and instead focuses on a more experienced witch with a deeper bag

Apparently they're gonna make a prequel but I'd much, much rather see a sequel following Alex.

He literally learned the witchcraft and also escaped the predicament through his own ingenuity –– he must have learned some FUCKED UP lessons through that, about life.

Surely he'd be a monster in adulthood?

>>213754226
I got the impression that she had either taken the real aunt's identity or bluffed her way into the family, possibly using magic. It was made clear that the mother hadn't seen her for ages.
Also, her choice of words, consumption, makes her seem very old, much older than iit should be possible if this was her first go with magic.
>"In the 1800s, people called TB disease "consumption."
>https://www.cdc.gov/world-tb-day/history/index.html

We don't really need more. I would be disappointed if they just straight up made a witch prequel, explaining all this stuff that nobody really needs to know. But Cregger has mentioned that he wants to do another film in this setting. No details about what exactly that means.

IT'S NAMED "WEAPONS" BECAUSE HE DREAMS OF A WEAPON

>>213754472
Why was it called Barbarian?

>>213754506
It was set on Barbary street. Frank lives on Barbary street, therefore he is a Barbarian.

>>213752631
Neat details anon

>>213740632 (OP)
it was mid and entertaining
just don't worry about the handful of plot holes

>>213754472
Say that again?

>>213754506
>I think it’s an intriguing title. I like the idea that when the movie is over it could inspire a debate as to what it’s referencing. There’s been a lot of theories online about how I probably landed on it. None of them are especially accurate. [laughs] Truth be told, I had to name the document something when I saved it the first time. I was writing the script and I had to write something to save it, or it was going to be called ‘Untitled Screenplay’, and so I wrote ‘Barbarian’ and then I got attached to it. Then the more I wrote… maybe the movie just sort of wrapped itself around that title. I’m really happy with it. I think it’s the right title, but it is mysterious.

>>213754395
That means I'm probably getting what I want
If its in the setting it probably happens in the same world but follows different characters and a different witch
A prequel would be disastrous, but sequels could work just fine especially if the sister is a newer witch
The consumption line I assumed was just her pulling a nebulous disease out of her ass, like exposure or mono and being a bit bad at lying

>>213740632 (OP)
>>with good story
>Check
the kids are in the most obvious place
aunt gets away with it because weekend at bernie's tier logic.

>>213754506
the director is a try hard and he tries to obscure his pleb-tier stories with vagueness so you keep digging where there is nothing to find

>>213754661
>The consumption line I assumed was just her pulling a nebulous disease out of her ass, like exposure or mono and being a bit bad at lying
Meh, there was a bit too much focus on it, with Marcus commenting on it. Seemed like a clue regarding her age to me.
But hey, ultimately it doesn't matter.

>>213754712
>the kids are in the most obvious place
Except for the part where they were moved anytime the cops came to inspect their house. Also it's just the entire point of the movie that the adults are all failing to help the children in their own ways. The cops are incompetent/lazy and more concerned about anniversary dinners and covering up their own corruption than finding the kids. Archer was a shit dad who was looking for his son as a way to make up for his own failings. The principal treated children as a job, and bureaucracy and rules were more important to him than their well-being. And Justine is selfish and performative in her "care" for the children, using the image of a caring teacher to make herself look like a better person than she is. The children are found in the end, but not because anyone genuinely had their best interest at heart.

>>213753143
They're called Badge Bunnies. I have a friend who's a cop and he's constantly telling me stories about every officer is always slayin puss because women will throw themselves at a man in a uniform. The ones in domestic violence situations are the easiest to hook up with.

>>213740658
>>horror-comedy

>Pass

What’s the telesync quality like? You wankers have convinced me to watch this movie now but I’m still a cheap ass gypsy

>>213754506
>>213754841
The movie is largely about how men don't need to be as cautious or fearful as women. The idea of sharing the airbnb with a stranger is just an inconvenience for Skarsgard's character, but for the main woman trusting him is a gamble with her life on the line. It's made most obvious with Justin Long's character who finds a creepy murder bunker under the basement and his first thought is to measure it so he can add the square footage to the home's value. Men are allowed to brute force their way through life like a barbarian while women need to be borderline paranoid to ensure their safety.

>>213755064
that's pure cope. the movie covers its retarded writing with humor

>>213755304
it's good enough. it's a meme movie. mid af. bring her back was superior on every level.

so why did josh brolin go back to normal but alex's parents and the kids remained cathatonic?

witches are scary characters. more scary than vampires, demons, zombies or dolls

>>213755692
Wasn't under her spell long enough for his life force to be drained I guess

>>213754567
IT'S NAMED "WEAPONS" BECAUSE HE DREAMS OF A WEAPON

>>213755692
Seems like the longer you're under the spell the worse you're off afterwards.
Parents were afflicted the longest and ended up not talking or being able to feed themselves.
Kids the second longest and some of them started talking again after a while.
Brolin was only under the spell for a few minutes and was not affected in any visible way.

>>213740632 (OP)
What was the actual twist? Felt fairly straightforward, just told from different perspectives.

>>213752852
>the school principal was also black
The asian was the principal.

>>213754226
>I'm hoping the sequel leaves questions about gladys up in the air, and instead focuses on a more experienced witch with a deeper bag
I agree. The movie kind of leans on her being ultimately incompetent - she's a witch who knows one spell total and relies on it entirely, and isn't even aware of her own parameters. "Surely two adults will be enough to cure my cancer. Oh fuck! I'm going to die if I don't immediately ensorcell seventeen beloved local children and create a massive police investigation. Fuck, I'll just keep killing to cover it up until I'm forced to flee the town"
Like the cops and everyone are shockingly incompetent but so is she, approaching the classic witch hustle of eating children will all the delicacy of a crack addict chasing his fix.
Imaging her backstory, I wouldn't assume she was a smart witch by any means. She felt like she'd have been the mother's fuckup sister who got into drugs or something early, absolutely disappeared from family life, and then returns later when she's fucked up to beg the family that she abandoned for a place to stay. The only difference is that at some point she also fucked a Satanist and kept a tree that mind controls people when they broke up. But it's definitely the archetype of a shitty parasitic narcissistic personality.

>>213753929
Okay, sure, I guess you can say that now that pedophile is being rebranded to MAP. Enjoy your memberships, Zach and Sam.

>>213753891
if sara paxton was my wife i would inseminate endless kids into her fertile jewish-mexican womb

>>213755327
This is why I don’t watch these types of movies. I don’t need an **insert theme about women** for the thousandth time. Women’s stories are fucking boring! It’s a separate genre I don’t need.

>>213753016
She can control them but she has to be near her instruments to do so. At the end she doesn’t have her bell, sticks, or any if the materials that was used to activate the kids.

>>213753891
Allegedly he started writing the script as cooe for Trevor’s death which is why it’s sort of about not getting answers, grief, and has some jokes from WKUK in there.

>>213740632 (OP)
the comedy is out of place >tho

>>213746146
WHY WON'T SHE LET HER FUCKING HAIR GROW

>>213754226
I genuinely wonder if Gladys is just an anceint witch that has lived into the modern age.
Like maybe she did some resaerch about someone with a dead mother and somewhat unknown aunt she hasn’t known for a while, found that aunt, killed her, then took her place and inserted her self into that families life and she’s just been doing that forever to get her youth back?
Almost like a Parasite, right?

>>213757044
Wonder if it just gets harder to absorb youth the older you get, so you need a lot more to do it over time.

TAKE CARE, NOW

>>213760112
I thought it was funny and so did most of my theater
>>213760155
yeah I dont believe she's actually alex's aunt

>>213749254
normalfag angle: Everyone inside are now weapons of the one controlling them
schizoid angle: sandy hook was an inside joke adam lanza was part of a controlled experiment of the us government where people are turned into agents through mk ultra indoctrination, the movie is an allegory to the mind control of the youth to commit violent school shootings to take away the WEAPONS of the general population

i don't know anything about it. Is it woke coded?

>>213760230
I mean i’ve always half-believed the conspiracy that these shootings are more common because they are just plants to get weapons taken away to have power taken from the people.
But the angle itself falls away when there are states that don’t require permits and would be utterly impossible to actually police the banning of weapons.
Based on statistics from a while back it’s speculated that every household in texas has at least 4 firearms within the home.

>>213760291
What the fuck does this mean you stupid idiot?
The only thing you can point at is that the principal is a fag and that’s it.
Go fuckibg watch it.

>>213760222
Me neither.
Take into consideration that we don’t see the mom and dad interract with her either outside of what they say in the morning.
Also that she wears a wig. Really funny though that a woman for all intents and purposes who is trying to lay low picks the loudest, most grotesque look possible to be seen in the public.

>>213740632 (OP)
Friend dragged me to watch this, i don't usually watch horror movies in current year, because most of them are boring and predictable, but this was somewhat original, but it's still plagued by classic horror low iq characters, and you have to "just turn off your brain bro" through some part of the movies. The POV style of the movie although cool, was used to artificially prolong the movie, half of the povs were irrelevant, like cop and the crackhead.
All in all 6/10, the main thing is it keeps your attention and you wont be bored

>>213740632 (OP)
AAAAAA IS THAT A HECKIN WITCHERINO?! I'M SO SPOOKER AAAAAAA THIS THINLY VEILED ALLEGORY OF AGE GAP FASCISM GOT ME ACTIN UP FR FR AAAAAA

Yeah it was good in a 3 out of 5 stars way , but it shows the sad state of the movie industry that basically the best original movie in a year is only a bit better than decent.

the main problem is that the changing points of view and spent too long on the quite dull parts of the story.
It was really so-so or average with a great ending.

I love small sleepy town mysteries, senpai

>>213751149
I'm pretty sure the boy was always quiet, only people who knew him well like the teacher could notice a difference in his behavior, but i agree the detective work in the movie would be done better by a detective with downs.
Like nobody noticed the pattern of kids running direction except Brolin, and nobody keeping a watch over the most obvious suspect the kid that didn't get taken.

>>213740632 (OP)
>make something original
Sort of. It was just a pastiche of about 4 other films.
>with good story
Definitely not. The story is entirely "we lied in the trailer, the kids didn't actually go missing, a kid's witchy aunt has them in her basement".
>with great settings
A generic small town in the US...
>a horror movie
It was a black comedy, there was no actual horror.
>with unsettling atmosphere
The only unsettling part in the whole thing was the hypnotised woman getting into the back seat of the car while noodlehair teacher was asleep.
>with twist in the end
There wasn't a twist. They revealed the "mystery" halfway through, and nothing changed from then on out.

What the fuck movie did you think you watched?

>>213741664
Yeah, it was like it was trying to be Longlegs, Hereditary, Prisoners, IT, and Us all at once, but then poured a bunch of comedy over it.

The wife character had giant tits

Can someone tell me if the character who ran over Wong was the Cops’s wife?

>>213760960
It wasn't.

>>213753016
Wouldn't it be cool if part of the mystery was that people were occasionally spotting the kids running through town and there was a string of unexplained murders?

I wasn't a fan of the whole "chapter" thing but I get why it was done
I also really liked the slapstick tier ending for the witch even though it dragged on a bit too much
a nice 3/5

>>213760851
>>213760593
retards

>>213761521
No refutations confirmed.

>>213761521
I remember this shill style posting in Thunderbolts threads. This generic piece of crap will be forgotten the instant it leaves theaters

>>213747761
It makes sense that they can't make a good movie.

>>213761682
>>213761551
>>213761769
retards

giv torrent link

>>213761854
Still no refutations confirmed.

Shite was even worse than the leaks made it out to be
We've reached an impasse; trailers are better than the movies, give too much away or present an entirely different story, and often contain edits not present in the final cut

>>213761854
Meh b8.

>>213749254
I assumed it was because he was a failed army vet
constantly crying about failing to protect everyone, the soldier line, being a general contractor, etc
keep in mind this role was originally for pedro pascal so brolins tougher screen presence doesn't mesh with the character as well

>>213742862
It has fags? Why? Does the film exolain why the fags are there? It just sucks, I was gonna watch it with my Aunt :(. it was really the only decent option at my local theater, too. Fucking hollywood.

>>213763673
don't worry
both of them get what they deserve

>>213740632 (OP)
It is better than Barbarian but there are no "original" horror films because it is a dead genre. Every horror movie that "needed" to be made has been made. You can still make original films though with a horror atmosphere like The Lighthouse or Skinamarink.

>>213761489
>but I get why it was done
explain it then

>>213763631
Fuck, Pascal would have been so horrible in the role. The character works becuase he's a hardass, Brolin was the better pick

What was the point of the AR-15 in the dream

>>213763957
>there are no "original" horror films because it is a dead genre.
As opposed to every other genre that are constantly reinventing themselves?

>>213763957
The movie has a good idea but in every other way is bad so its wasted.

>>213742300
>really felt like a made for tv movie you'd see in the 80s

And that's a bad thing?

>>213764865
Yeah thank GOD that he dropped out. I felt revolted when I learned that Brolins' role was originally intended for him.

>>213748785
>they don't appear to have suffered any physical distress whatsoeve

Next time you watch a film...put your fucking phone away.

>>213742862
Feels like it would be better if he was happier and with his mouth open

I liked it, everyone in my theater liked it. Also nu-theaters are great. I had a double shot of tequila before I went in an then ordered pizza, beer and another tequila cocktail to the seat. KINO.