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Anonymous No.213743413 >>213743456 >>213743543 >>213743553 >>213743661 >>213743813 >>213744105 >>213744134 >>213744426 >>213744535 >>213744564 >>213744607 >>213744830 >>213744850 >>213746075 >>213746792 >>213746825
>no! not this clean, safe, and orderly city
Anonymous No.213743456 >>213743699
>>213743413 (OP)
I wonder if the full Second Avenue Subway was built in this timeline?
Anonymous No.213743484 >>213743581 >>213743649 >>213744065 >>213744347 >>213744521 >>213744764 >>213745491 >>213745945 >>213746298 >>213747223 >>213748095 >>213748943 >>213749328
umm wow OP you think this type of behaviour is acceptable? You must be Israeli or something.
Anonymous No.213743490
they're about to elect a foreign pajeet socialist
can't wait for the city to become worse than detroit
death to city scum
Anonymous No.213743543 >>213744092
>>213743413 (OP)
It's a myth that Nazi Germany was orderly
Anonymous No.213743553 >>213744460 >>213745352
>>213743413 (OP)
Present-day NY also looks clean, safe and orderly when seen from a distant, ariel perspective.
Anonymous No.213743581 >>213744236
>>213743484
why wouldnt one of the other guards just shoot her
Anonymous No.213743607
schizo nazi spammer incoming
Anonymous No.213743635
imagine the horrors of a nazi new york...
by the way don't go out at night its dangerous
also my whole family says we live in "new york" but its actually a subburb we fled to 50 years ago...
Anonymous No.213743649 >>213747735
>>213743484
Very funny that they have to hamfist in cartoonishly evil shit like just to remind theyre actually bad
Anonymous No.213743661 >>213743684
>>213743413 (OP)
This show could've been so kino if they only focused on John Smith
Anonymous No.213743684 >>213743994
>>213743661
Don't forget his wife. Prime plapping material.
Anonymous No.213743699
>>213743456
That's an interesting thing to think about. If it was, that would certainly help to support the idea of Geographic Determinism
Anonymous No.213743813 >>213744134 >>213746198
>>213743413 (OP)
Chuds still wouldn't be satisfied in this universe, because it seems the Nazis only genocide jews and the disabled (and presumably sexual deviants, but that wasn't shown in the two seasons I watched). Blacks and all the other races are still around.
Anonymous No.213743994
>>213743684
don't forget his teen daughters, anon!
Anonymous No.213744057 >>213744160
>movies and propaganda portray nazis as competent and orderly
>real world fascists are all ugly, out of shape and retarded
Anonymous No.213744065
>>213743484
I think the Nazis deliberately jammed their handguns just out of sadism.
Anonymous No.213744092 >>213746013 >>213747224
>>213743543
Source?
Anonymous No.213744105 >>213744190
>>213743413 (OP)
But where is all the culturally diverse restaurants?!!!
Anonymous No.213744134 >>213744153 >>213744654
>>213743813
>>213743413 (OP)
Were all the jews in this alternate history killed then or are there still resistance groups?
Anonymous No.213744153 >>213744191
>>213744134
They weren't killed. Just like in real life.
Anonymous No.213744160
>>213744057
Fascism hasn’t even existed in 80 odd years, if you can find one then it’s not really their fault they’re ugly when they’re pushing 100
Anonymous No.213744190 >>213744198 >>213744578
>>213744105
AAAAA I'M GOING CRAZY, WHERE ARE THE BODEGAS?!
Anonymous No.213744191
>>213744153
The jews weren't targeted in this time-line? Is that how this book and movie was allowed to be made?
Anonymous No.213744198 >>213744416
>>213744190
there's literally nothing wrong with this
Anonymous No.213744236
>>213743581
They were busy having a chat, and then it wouldn't be as fun. It's a comedy show.
Anonymous No.213744272 >>213744315
The show takes place in the early 60s and yet they are still regularly finding jews to kill?
They should've been next to impossible to find by the late 50s.
Anonymous No.213744315
>>213744272
The Nazichuds would have had Joo Zews
Anonymous No.213744347 >>213744362 >>213744517
>>213743484
>IDF in Gaza.webm
Anonymous No.213744362
>>213744347
They deserve it tbΔ₯
Anonymous No.213744416
>>213744198
I agree. In fact,I think its beautiful
Anonymous No.213744426 >>213744490 >>213747561
>>213743413 (OP)
Man, why are modern amerimutts such cuckolds?
They are LITERALLY begging for a boot to lick, wtf happened?
Anonymous No.213744460
>>213743553
>ariel perspective
Anonymous No.213744490 >>213747896
>>213744426
It's not really just an American thing. This site is like a magnet for losers all over the world who desperately want some other man to tell them how to live their lives. They salivate over the thought of submitting to some strongman and then letting him rule over them.
Anonymous No.213744517
>>213744347
that was the joke of the post you quoted
Anonymous No.213744521
>>213743484
This actually happened.
Anonymous No.213744535
>>213743413 (OP)
Sure but what's the point without diversity?
Anonymous No.213744564 >>213744604
>>213743413 (OP)
>the state mandates that the city needs to look a certain way and be pristine otherwise [threat]
I thought rightoids hated the state? You want freedom right, you don't get a "idyllic" nazi town with small government and private companies running things, lol
Anonymous No.213744568
There are no fent zombies and white people can walk the streets without fear, what a dystopia.
Anonymous No.213744578
>>213744190
Not even my thirdie country makes shop ramps that fucking poor and shitty
Anonymous No.213744604 >>213744710
>>213744564
Just removing minorities and doing literally nothing else would accomplish this.
Anonymous No.213744607
>>213743413 (OP)
>no niggers and kikes
Anonymous No.213744654
>>213744134
They're all on the death list but some have managed to hide their jewishness from the authorities. One of the main characters in the first season is a covert jew, and the Japs gas his family due to their agreement with their Nazi allies.
Anonymous No.213744710 >>213744797
>>213744604
Yes I'm sure all the basement dwellers like you would rise up immediately
Anonymous No.213744764 >>213749213
>>213743484
Let me guess, they also made a rollercoaster that killed people through G-Force, and then turned their skin into lampshades.
Anonymous No.213744797 >>213744853 >>213745009
>>213744710
I would start going outside and walking around the city at the very least
Anonymous No.213744830 >>213744984
>>213743413 (OP)
I love how this show accidentally made people want to live there so that had to go full cartoon villain mode at the end to remind everyone to hate them.
Anonymous No.213744850
>>213743413 (OP)
I thought it was funny as shit how swastikas were incorporated into as many day to day design elements as possible. The one that really stood out to me for some reason was a desk lamp that had its base shaped into a swastika. Shame they destroyed most of the props after the show.
Anonymous No.213744853
>>213744797
What's stopping you from doing that now?
Anonymous No.213744984
>>213744830
I thought they did an amazing job at making a Nazi, a type of person who many normies would consider to be evil, a sympathetic character and getting those people to actively root for him and his success. I went into the show as someone who didn't particularly care about Nazis in either direction and ended up rooting for him too.
Anonymous No.213745009
>>213744797
You could do that right now if you weren't a weak pussy.
Anonymous No.213745352 >>213749491
>>213743553
>a distant, ariel perspective.

Under the sea?
Anonymous No.213745491 >>213746193
>>213743484
This is dumb
One of the reasons why the gas chambers were used during the holocaust was because nazi soldiers charged with mass killings were beginning to be psychologically affected by the close up killings they were tasked with
Gas chambers were seen as a better method which wouldn't cause nazi soldiers to have psychological issues
Anonymous No.213745558
Did everyone forget about there was a big part of NYC that was just abandoned for like 20 years after WWII? Shit got retarded in the last 2 seasons.
Anonymous No.213745649 >>213745675 >>213747634
In terms of asthetics, Nazi germany will probably never be topped
Anonymous No.213745675 >>213745826
>>213745649
They got topped hard in 1945 lmaoo
Anonymous No.213745826 >>213745842
>>213745675
Aesthetically? Not really
Anonymous No.213745842
>>213745826
Anally? Yes really.
Anonymous No.213745945
>>213743484
I’m laughing so hard at this god damn
Anonymous No.213746013
>>213744092
the Talmud
Anonymous No.213746068
If nazis are the bad guys why are they so cool
Anonymous No.213746075 >>213746143 >>213746269 >>213746566 >>213746659 >>213747655 >>213747765 >>213748072 >>213748278
>>213743413 (OP)
Everyone forgets the thing about faaaaaacism is there's no freedom to do what you want and neighbors are constantly snitching on each other for whose not living up to the ideal decided by someone else.
Anonymous No.213746143
>>213746075
how do you know this? did you live there?
Anonymous No.213746149 >>213746263
The trouble is that Hollywood fiction keeps depicting the nazi according to nazi propaganda - basically reproducing it, and not according to what historical research shows us of the truth of how the regime operated. Nazi institutions showed tremendous entropy for one.
And I guess they would have to go over the uncomfortable fact that most modern management school curriculums were strongly inspired by nazi management - when not outright created by never condemned members of the party. See for exemple Reinhard Hohn's trajectory post war.
Anonymous No.213746159 >>213746292
the issue with any nazi victory scenarios is that you have to handwave nearly every single one of their actual flaws to have them be victorious

such a their inefficient production methods, sub-par logistics, their massive problem of intra and inter-department competition and scheming, their non-existent loyalty when tested etc.

Those are all real flaws, which led to their inevitable defeat
you need to handwave all of those to make them win in the first place, which in turn means you have to display their evil through more cartoonish acts of violence
Anonymous No.213746193
>>213745491
Why did the gas chambers have wooden doors? Why were their lights with filaments inside the chambers as well?
Anonymous No.213746198
>>213743813
if jews weren't letting the criminals out of prison and allowing any jungle savage on the planet to just walk in here, blacks and mexicans wouldn't really be so bad. i could live and let live with that, most people really just want to be able to afford shit and be reasonably safe
Anonymous No.213746263 >>213746303 >>213746383 >>213746447 >>213746468 >>213748216 >>213749248
>>213746149
one of the things nobody seems to acknowledge in any way somehow is that by 1942 every single German agent in the UK had turned double agent, often out of their own free will before being discovered
While at the same time not only did British agents remain utterly loyal, they managed to retain this loyalty despite being deep into enemy territory and even managed to turn incredibly high ranking Germans into double agents while at it, to the point that the German secret service was infiltrated to the very highest rankings by the British

The Germans had very little if any loyalty to their nation and their comrades when tested, and that's one of the key factors in their failure, the British, Americans and even Soviets had far higher loyalty to their own cause than the Germans ever had
Anonymous No.213746269
>>213746075
and that's why we want to switch to nazis
Anonymous No.213746292
>>213746159
Every single facet of how modern society views nazi germany is just one big handwave lol. And then there's the irony of them screeching about how the history books lied and actually everything was totally great lol.
Anonymous No.213746298
>>213743484
>literal rat child
Anonymous No.213746303 >>213746417
>>213746263
shalom, rabbi
Anonymous No.213746323
The thing I hate most about New York is all the goddamn gum on the sidwalks. Jesus Christ. Chewing gum should be outlawed for this reason alone.
Anonymous No.213746383 >>213746478 >>213746535
>>213746263
The British treatment of POWs was revolutionary (if a bit cucked). They tried to confuse them by being overly nice and lenient, allowing them to work even outside the camps. It ended up being pretty successful compared to the standard at the time?
Anonymous No.213746417 >>213746456 >>213746614
>>213746303
anon, none of that is some kind of secret, you can clearly read about it, the documents have been declassified for decades now and we have documentations even from the German perspective
one of the key factors in why the V1 and V2 failed to cause any significant damage in Britain what so ever is that the German double agents all reported false successes when in fact the weapons impacted with empty fields

D-Day was such a massive success in no small part due to the Nazi high command up until the moment Allies boots touched sand, still believed the Normany invasion to be a distraction for a Calais invasion which had been completely fabricated
Anonymous No.213746447 >>213746583
>>213746263
Not entirely fair, Britain is an island, and once the first ones are compromised, the rest will follow suite.
The same thing happened in Vietnam, the US tried setting up spy networks in the north, but the first teams were compromised before they even got there. The VC played their hand well though, and kept up appearances, so much so that I think 5 other teams deposited over the years were also immediately compromised upon arriving.

But back to WW2, the enigma machine being captured didn't help either.

There's a very cool book (and incredibly shit movie seriously don't even watch it), called Operation Mincemeat, about an allied plot to get fake documents into circulation, so that German high command will think the allied attack is landing elsewhere.
Really goes into detail how the Germans thought the British thought, and vice versa.
Anonymous No.213746456
>>213746417
Anonymous No.213746468 >>213746621
>>213746263
>the secret service reports post war what a good job they did and please don't shrink our department
Pretty safe approach given that anyone who knows the truth is either dead or working for you.
Anonymous No.213746478
>>213746383
They would make a habit of putting high ranking German officers together (I think in fact at a house near Bletchley Park), and have hidden microphones listening to their conversations.

Regular POW's would be shipped to Canada.
Anonymous No.213746535 >>213746681
>>213746383
wasn't just POW treatment but also departmental structure
in effect the core British structure was one of cooperation, personal accountability and forgiveness, which in turn meant that they had an extreme level of loyalty to each other and sharing information was encouraged which in turn meant that possible traitors stood out like a sore thumb

this is in stark contrast to the German and Japanese (both of them had this exact same issue) core structures which were set up to encourage competition, rivalry and personal advancement, due to the belief, consistent with their ideologies, that this would cause the most competent to rise up

But what actually happened is that the true competent people were consistently sidelined and betrayed by the people capable of gaming the system, of making themselves appear competent
Additionally this constant competition meant that distinguishing between ambition and treason was virtually impossible and due to a lack of trust this led at least with the Germans to frequent turncoats
The Japanese were ideologically more fanatic and saw less turncoats, but this in turn caused even more conflict between individuals

The Soviets also suffered from this initially, however here there is an interesting factor, namely the great German mistake: they turned the war against the Soviets into one of extermination, they showed no leniency and as a result, made it so cooperation with them, by any Soviet possible turncoats, was idiotic

And yes here is where the British were as you said far smarter: they honored their deals, they treated prisoners with dignity, and they encouraged defections
Anonymous No.213746566
>>213746075
>there's no freedom to do what you want
t. I can't have gay sex parades in the streets
Anonymous No.213746583 >>213746681
>>213746447
The island part might have played a part, but the key differences in british and german approaches to inter and intra departmental competition played an equally, possibly larger, part

The fact that british agents managed to get as far as being participants in inner-circle meetings with Hitler says enough
Anonymous No.213746614 >>213746667
>>213746417
This show was great, they covered all that stuff. My favorite part was how the bongs would jam radio signals and spoof telemetry for the german bombers, to send them off course and then get on their own radio networks and talk about how much "damage" that last bombing raid did. Also narrated by Charlton Heston so you know it's kino.
Anonymous No.213746621
>>213746468
The Germans successfully got tricked by a Spanishman who'd never been to the UK once in his life into thinking he was a british double agent, their intelligence wasn't of the highest quality
Anonymous No.213746659
>>213746075
soviets did this too. nobody wants to live in a system like this for too long. It will collapse eventually.
Anonymous No.213746667 >>213746704
>>213746614
really the entire espionage aspect of WWII in general is just fascinating, it was on a level unlike frankly any war before, radio absolutely changed just how valuable immediate correct information was
Anonymous No.213746681 >>213746731
>>213746583
Indeed, my only objection is that you claim German spies turned mostly out of disloyalty, I would say most of the turned out necessity.

You would have to find examples of the opposite happening, and the British spies choosing death over dishonor to convince me otherwise.

>>213746535
>The Japanese were ideologically more fanatic and saw less turncoats, but this in turn caused even more conflict between individuals

Arguably one of the reasons they treated prisoners so badly. Their higher ups beat and humiliate them, so they kick it further down the chain.
Anonymous No.213746704
>>213746667
>radio absolutely changed just how valuable immediate correct information was
Exactly. And who could forget the part where german ciphers were cracked by the bongs because every general wanted to be the first one to congratulate Hitler on his birthday lmao, some of that shit is almost comical.
Anonymous No.213746731 >>213746865
>>213746681
there was also a sort of strategy to the Japanese cruelty, in that by treating their prisoners cruelly and letting information about this cruelty spread, they in turn ensured their own troops would not surrender out of the expectation that the same cruelties they visited upon others would be visited upon them

there are more than a few stories about Japanese captives being surprised at the American leniency, many expecting to be tortured to death
Anonymous No.213746792
>>213743413 (OP)
Sounds sterile and oppressive
Anonymous No.213746813 >>213747631
>Useful idiots falling for surface level aesthetics episode #26452
Anonymous No.213746825
>>213743413 (OP)
Not enough sewage and rats, where is the diversity? Where is the music and dancing in the streets? Where are the street vendors and the hucksters and the pickpockets?
Anonymous No.213746865 >>213746888 >>213746990
>>213746731
True. Did you know about the last plan to save Iwo Jima (or Okinawa I can't remember)? They were ordered to sail to the island with their last remaining battleships, beach themselves, then use the beached ships as firing positions until destroyed or victorious.

Turns out they got scouted and bombed on the way there, but that would have been so cool.
Germans had their Total Warfare, and then the Japanese took that concept and added some steroids.

I mean you had that one solider living on an island for decades after the war was lost, refusing to accept the situation.
Anonymous No.213746888
>>213746865
>I mean you had that one solider living on an island for decades after the war was lost, refusing to accept the situation.
And the crazy bastard was still killing philipinos 20 years later lol
Anonymous No.213746990
>>213746865
The Japanese frankly got incredibly lucky that they inflicted as little casualties (all things considered) on the Americans as they did, and that they never once managed to occupy significant portions of American territory

Had they caused the same level of thirst for vengeance in the Americans as the Germans had in the Soviets, Japan would have been practically depopulated
John Smith No.213747223
>>213743484
Just like in the reality
Anonymous No.213747224
>>213744092
The local rabbi told me
Anonymous No.213747561
>>213744426
Its a nation of mindbroken cucks
Anonymous No.213747631
>>213746813
It's become a nightly tradition on /tv/, I'm ashamed to say I get worried when I don't see naziboo threads after 8pm :(
Anonymous No.213747634
>>213745649
After the Roman empire, maybe.
Anonymous No.213747655
>>213746075
So like what we have now but without blacks, jews and homosexuals?
Anonymous No.213747735
>>213743649
Americans don't recognize things unless they're massively over the top. I guess you could argue that it's because of media like this training them to think this is what evil looks like without being able to recognize anything maybe leading up to this point as also evil. But at the same time I am not going to complain that each individual piece of media go against the grain so hard hoping that audiences will suddenly understand more nuanced or subdued stories.
Anonymous No.213747765
>>213746075
>my husband's and my neighbours will snitch on us for molesting our adopted sons
Anonymous No.213747896 >>213748672
>>213744490
I can tell you are an absolute coward.
Anonymous No.213748063
Anonymous No.213748072
>>213746075
I wish I could snitch on my neighbors for their ethnic music, smells β€” and then the secret police takes them away.
Anonymous No.213748095 >>213748779
>>213743484
Israelis hate Nazis and vice versa though
Anonymous No.213748216
>>213746263
>strangely the side that won with the lives, money, supplies, arms, planes, bombs, tanks of the US and Russia, had no traitors, and it has nothing to do with us rewriting history for the last 80 years.
In reality, there were british and americans that sided with the nazi party. Hell, even the british king sided with Hitler (Edward the VIII collaborated with the nazi’s and the government covered it up), think about how fucking hilarious your claim is anon. The british KING HIMSELF was a nazi supporter, jesus fucking christ, keep trying to erase the history kike, maybe someday everyone will buy it
Anonymous No.213748278 >>213749191
>>213746075
>"damn dude these guys had no freedom, unlike us"
>government implements online identification and spying protocols nazis would cream their pants at the thought of having
>never was vooooted for by the public but gets put in anyway
>politicians ignore any pleas against it
>any against it even slightly are instantly labeled degenerate terrorist pedophiles
Ah, democracy
Anonymous No.213748672
>>213747896
>you don't want some literally who controlling every facet of your life?
>coward!
Anonymous No.213748779 >>213748886 >>213749712
>>213748095
why did they have commeroative coins for the havaara agreement and plans to help move jews to israel with documentation and public announcements and acknowledgements? or a madagascar plan to buy it and relocate the jews there? why did they pay jews to relocate?
Anonymous No.213748886
>>213748779
Shut up shut up shut up!!!
Anonymous No.213748943
>>213743484
This is so ridiculous I just laughed out loud
Anonymous No.213748964 >>213749072
Funny how you get the exact opposite reaction anytime someone posts videos or images of the big modern cities in china, suddenly it's now bad or fake.
Anonymous No.213749072
>>213748964
Well yeah. The average American's opinions and beliefs (and understanding of history) are completely incoherent.
Anonymous No.213749191
>>213748278
the fact you're allowed to complain about this on a public forum with zero consequences is the proof democracy works
Anonymous No.213749213
>>213744764
The g-force from the rollercoaster pulled their skin right off, it's how they got enough for the lampshades.
It's simple physics, anon.
Anonymous No.213749248 >>213749293
>>213746263
>not only did British agents remain utterly loyal
yeah, loyal to the soviet union lmao
Anonymous No.213749293 >>213749323 >>213749489
>>213749248
the post is clearly about ww2 retard
Anonymous No.213749323
>>213749293
Don't bully them lol
Anonymous No.213749328
>>213743484
Anonymous No.213749489
>>213749293
no shit retard, philby was a soviet agent inside mi6 during ww2
Anonymous No.213749491
>>213745352
Under na-zi,
Under na-zi,
Darling it's better,
No Jews or Wetbacks,
Under Na-zis!
Anonymous No.213749712
>>213748779
do you have a source on this

not challenging you just want to have the ability to inform others, and read up more on it myself