Thread 213747231

What movies belong in a museum?

redditors really dont deserve basic human rights

>>213747231 (OP)
Batman: The Dark Knight Rises, it's a gritty and smart superhero film

kickassia

Normalfags suffer from weird time perception where if you ask them when the 80's where, they will say roughly 20 years ago.
It's like they stopped functioning around the year 2000.

>>213747231 (OP)
Captain Marvel. It's a totally superseded artifact of a bygone era

>>213747231 (OP)
The PS2 is retro though, it was released in the 20th century

>>213747345
It's fucking bizarre. Yes, bitch, something that was 2 decades ago, a HUGE swath of time to anyone who isn't a brain fried retard, is retro.

>>213747345
It was 9/11. Civilization peaked just before 9/11 and has fallen off a cliff since then.

I think the sixth generation of gaming and the early 2000s in general can be considered retro, not sure about anything after that though

>>213747345
Even zoomers perceive time like this. Some 17 year old kid at my gym was talking about how games today suck compared to when "I was a kid, like Pokemon Gen 1". I pointed out that Pokemon Gen 1 was like 10 years before he was born. He had to think about it for a bit and then was like "oh yeah".

>>213747958
kids usually first play whatever games their dad has without knowing details like release date, i was born in 2003 and played PS2 half-life around 8, that was 10 (13 for PC) years old by then

>>213747767
The Jews didn't want the middle class to grow and threaten the elite abuse power structure

So wars and other nonsense had to be created for the wealth transfer

>>213747231 (OP)
Idiocracy
Passion of the Christ
Edge of Tomorrow
Blade runner + 2049
Lotr trilogy
OG star wars trilogy untouched by Lucas
Terminator 1+2
Silence of the Lambs
Upgraded
Hacksaw Ridge
Limitless
Most Disney films prior to 1999

>>213747905
im still sad that the ps2/xbox/GC era was the peak of console gaming, and we didn't realise it at the time. The Gamecube in particular has some of the best console games ever made, and they're still remaking them today.

>>213747345
We are somehow on like year thirty of '80s nostalgia

>>213747345
To be fair, those are just random used copies of two of the most common games for one of the most common consoles in existence. If they were prototypes (or I guess even sealed/NOS copies) and the console a PS2 TEST or a limited edition, then sure, that's stuff that not nearly as many people have seen and worth being in a museum. Everything in that particular exhibit still borders on Goodwill fodder, not museum pieces.

>>213748959
I agree with this that in principle museums should be about old stuff you typically wouldnt know or have access to

>>213748876
>The Gamecube in particular has some of the best console games ever made

>>213747345
The global rise of the internet destroyed decade-based trends as we knew them, so the eighties can still feel like twenty years ago because everything after 2007 starts blending together.

>>213747958
I'm not surprised. Zoomers have a strong parasocial relationship with millennial content creators. A lot of the nerdier ones grew up watching shit like GameGrumps and PeanutButterGamer, so not only did they grow up watching their surrogate big brothers play those old games, at some point they probably even started to conflate their own childhood with the childhoods of the now 32-45 year olds who they grew up watching. Pokemon Red and Blue being THE childhood Pokemon games of 2010s YouTubers just brushed off on zoomers.

>>213749015
f-zero gx
smash bros melee
wind waker
resident evil 4 (it was an exclusive for over a year btw)
Pikmin1+2
harvest moon+animal crossing (great games for women)
the usual mario games
metroid

thanks for the cringy meme image response, i know that tendies give us all a bad name these days, and anyone still paypigging for nintendo consoles today is hurting the industry, but they were the goat back in the day. Final Fantasy was never good, and the older GTA's aged like milk btw. Halos 1 to Reach was good tho.

>>213749052
It really has. You can go on YouTube and find, and even interact with, comments that are 20 years old. People still use accounts that they opened even longer ago than that. You can get feedback on something you posted 15 years ago just as readily as you might on something you wrote 15 hours ago. Of course this isn't a new phenomenon for writers or filmmakers who were used to having people bring up their old works, but flashback to a couple decades ago, and the thought of somebody randomly coming up to you and saying "hey, you remember how you said that the trailer for Halloween 2 sucked 17 years ago? Well I just wanted to say you're a retard" was entirely foreign, and you would naturally distance yourself from your "past self" as opposed to having it always be right there, accessible to you (and others).

>>213747345
The thing is that the internet preserves so much that makes something that happened 20 years ago seemed like it happened just a few years ago. It wasn't like this in the 90s or even early 2000s, a movie that came out in the 70s you would only see it in a rerelease or whenever was available on television, so 20 years old seemed like a long time. The internet has completely distorted our sense of time.

>>213749053
>>213747958
As someone who is not a big Pokemon fan, I have always been vaguely baffled by the way that Pokemon is objectively huge but the thousand-odd new ones they've added on over the years never surpass a handful of designs from 1996 in the public eye.

Like I know there's a million autistic arguments you can get into about the GBA ones were the best or they were all great until they went 3D or whatever but I guarantee you that when I walk into Target, 90% of the licensed garbage lining an entire aisle has these niggas on it, plus maybe that little fluffy dog-looking one and the talking cat I vaguely remember being based

I guess it's like how there were a gorillion Power Rangers yet any time the franchise gets revisited they're still about Tommy, Kimberly and Rita Repulsa

>>213748673
kids with soi dads maybe
my dad never played a fucking video game

>>213747345
like half the anons here still perceive the 80s as 20 years ago.

>>213747958
Everything made in the last 20 years "sucks" because some retard on the internet says so. A lot of people can't make decisions for themselves and need herd acknowledgment to accept if something is good and if the Angry Retarded Alcoholic Bong on youtube says its bad then that is how it is. There has been a ton of great films the last few years but some mong will tell you it sucks shit so you can't accept it as great.

Raiders Of The Lost Ark

>>213747345

Culture itself just sort of stopped making meaningful changes around 2004-2007 or so (web 2.0, social media, facebook, iphone). A certain hegemony of global monoculture has persisted for roughly the past 20 years. Whence etc.

>>213749228
Yeah, I guess it's because they're still some of the best designs and can be marketed to young and old alike. It's so funny to me to think back to how convinced everybody was that Pokémon was going to be just another 90s fad, yet here we are, nearly 30 years later, and people are getting into fistfights over Pokemon cards.

Who's the biggest musician in the world right now?

This isn't a rhetorical or gotcha question, I really wanna know. The last time I could perceive it, it was this bitch, but that was also twenty years ago so that can't be right

>>213749275
hating video games like a woman will never make you a real one

>>213749053
I was born in 1997. I spent many of my formative years reading gaming magazines, watching videos online and reading internet posts (such as this very website!) made by people born in the 70's and early 80's. I know more about the NES, 90's RPGs I've never played, or schlocky 80's such shows such as Magnum PI, Knight Rider or the A-team, than I do about many tv shows or games coming out today.

>>213747345
the world stopped

>>213747345
Culture stagnated in the 2000s and has never moved meaningfully in any direction. There's been no notable advancement in any regard since smart phones dropped 2009-2012, just tiny irrelevant refinements to what already existed. Even AI, the most hyped new tech, is a boring mess that's had no relevance on life besides making slop artists seethe and billionaires richer as they push AI pump and dumps on wall street. Electric cars, dud. Augmented reality, dud. Everything is basically frozen in time as society collapses, so it's not hard to think of the last distinguishable decades as only being 10-20 years ago even though we've been stagnant for nearly 30 years now.

>>213749302
Well, you know, that and the fact everyone made since 2006 objectively empirically and truthfully does fucking suck.

I miss being younger, but when I really think about it, I wouldn't want to go back, because I'd be more ignorant. I've learned so much through my struggles.

What really confuses me though is how boomers made it to their age and yet still act like retarded toddlers.

>>213747345
Zillenials own the online cultural sphere and everyone else orbits it. Everyone just perceives stuff through their eyes.

>>213747231 (OP)
Only one generation back from the current newest Grand Theft Auto game

>>213747345
I'm still mentally stuck at 2010 or so.

>>213750097
where did you get that idea from? The pissed off drinker gamer?

>>213750463
2010 was comfy
not everyone was a phone zombie
you could still use okcupid to get laid (not tinder)
we still thought obama could be ok LOL
no mike brown
no trayvon
no fent floyd

>>213747231 (OP)
If the Playstation 2 gets to be in a museum, so does an original DVD first-print copy of the Matrix. No seriously, the Matrix on DVD was one of the most rented movies during the launch of the PS2.

>>213749470
ngl this nigga is fuckin mad yo

>>213747231 (OP)
retro gaming is everything before the snes
and it will always be like that

people who get insulted about the PS2/3 being retro were probably calling the SNES retro. you got old, get over it.

Actually, a local science museum had a neat exhibit on science and pop culture. They had exhibits about how sci-fi movies predicted (and sometimes failed to predict) how the future would be.

Considering I literally can't play PS2 games anymore without emulation and upscaling because they look like dogshit, I'm fine with calling it a retro console.

>>213750949
Ah. Found some pics from the exhibit.

>>213751301
>todays price
How come wages are pretty much the same the last decades... for somehow everyone talks like we earned like 4 times less just 40 years ago?

They also had retro room recreations.

>>213747345
9/11 was a satanic ritual to halt time

>>213751299
There's this theory going around that Kony was what single-handedly fucked up the Millennial generation politically. It was the perfect storm of internet memes, slacktivism, and a cause heavily disconnected from modern American life that nonetheless had clear heroes and villains (which later turned out to be false).

>>213751401
>>213751405
>> |9/11|

>>213750872
The PS3 and 360 will never be retro until an entire new era of gaming is invented

The SNES was retro five years after it came out because what the PS1/Saturn/N64 offered were incomprehensible in comparison
But we're now in year 20 of every game still spiritually being a PS360 game. The resolutions are higher and the textures are denser but the games are the fucking same, hence they can just release Skyrim and GTA5 and The Last of Us over and over and over and nobody notices because they're still "modern games"

>>213751435
To this day I still don't even know what the fuck it was really about or what they were even trying to do by slapping stickers on everything.
You're right though, it's 100% carried through to modern day "protests" where it's just a bunch of unemployed faggots crying online or stopping traffic because they think throwing a tantrum until they get bored is somehow going to affect change on the other side of the world.

>>213751330
I really don't believe in a lot of those price adjustment things, or rather I think a lot of them are exaggerated. If we were to believe a lot of them, almost nobody outside of the only the very wealthy would have owned a PC even in the late 90s/early 2000s, yet almost everybody did.

>>213747345
>I am le based NEET who is immune to the passage of time because Groundhog Day is my reality

>>213751562
It's a well known fact that only the five richest kings of Europe could afford an Amiga, anon.

>>213751543
>>213751435
casuality of memetic warfare, USA needed/wanted to get into africa to counter china. Guy even had a MK ultra break down after releasing the video. Kony we find out hadnt been confirmed seen since like 2006. Almost like the kingmakers still use the "invisible children" to bend minds and action

>>213751562
PCs were in fact absurdly expensive
A solid Pentium/Voodoo rig to run Quake could literally cost you ten times as much as a PS1, prices have moved considerably in PC's favor

>>213751562
Electronics are one of the few things that inflation hasn’t severely impacted I think because of constant improvements and them being made in China. $2000 would buy you a middle of the road pc in 1995 just like it will today

>>213751562
Yeah I grew up in a lower middle class family, and we had stuff like a PC, Nintendo, Playstation and all that crap.
And there is NO WAY we would have shit like that if it was priced like >>213751301 says. That would be even higher in Europe.

>>213751530
Yep. Hell, just look at Atari 2600 games vs mid 80s NES games. Or how much arcade games evolved from the late 70s to the mid 80s, going from simple black and white games with very basic mechanics, to complex games with elaborate mechanics and artwork which remains impressive even today (compare Space Invaders with Gradius - they were released a mere 7 years apart)

>>213751684
$199 would buy you a brand new PlayStation and after a couple years they got marked down to $99

Now $499 gets you a brand new PlayStation and after a couple years they get marked up to $699

>>213751530
you're just old my guy. most of the people on this board weren't even conscious when the PS2 came out

>>213751758
I made an extremely specific point and you offered nothing except "no u"

Thor: The Dark World is that old, I guess it's time to put it on TCM because they don't make movies like that anymore

>>213747231 (OP)
Why is this so hard for millenials to see? Wasnt the NES in some museum somewhere by 2005?

>>213751655
Yeah they were expensive, even in back-then dollars, which become even more absurd if you use the common adjustment metrics. Which again is why I say there is some truth to that, but I feel like in many cases it's exaggerated.

>>213751739
Even as a milleniboomer I still don't know what the barrel thing near the connector is

>>213751739
This is what people that say "uhmm games were acktually more expensive back in the days!"
Within a few months you could easily find the latest releases for half the price, and even cheaper if you bought them used (used game market community and culture used to be FUCKING HUGE)
And you actually owned your games and they had value as you could resell them or trade them.

>>213751790
>Wasnt the NES in some museum somewhere by 2005?
No, they were being sold for chump change at used game shops, thrift stores, pawn shops, and garage sales. The idea of videogames being in a museum was patently absurd. Game collecting didn't become a widespread fad until the 2010s, before that 98%+ of the population viewed it as old outdated junk, with only the most dedicated of gaming nerds trying to build formal collections.

>>213751530
I do think PS3 to PS5 almost feels like an extended generation. Even with all its problems, PS3 was a pretty big jump up. In some ways I don't feel PS5 was that big of a jump from PS4 and now it doesn't seem that far from PS3. Certainly not as far as PS4 from PS2.

>>213749228
First impression is the strongest.

>>213751797
Now u kno
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_bead

>>213751784
I won't entertain someone who obviously doesn't play modern games with an actual argument. You don't like them, that's fine. But don't go around spewing your nonsense because you got old and "normies stole your hobby".

>>213751854
If someone showed me a game from PS4 and PS5, I don't think I would be able to tell which is which

>>213751864
>I won't entertain someone who obviously doesn't play modern games with an actual argument
Sounds like you're wasting your own time filling out captchas then

>>213751739
$199 in 1995 is $420 in today's money.

>>213751804
>second hand games
>video stores were everywhere and they all rented games
>practically every game store also rented games
>could borrow games from friends that had the same consoles
There were so many options to play different games that it didn't matter if your parents would only buy you 1-2 games a year.

>>213747345
>It's like they stopped functioning around the year 2000.
The entire world did

>>213751888
More than half the PS5's library is just PS4 games, same with the Switch being mostly Wii U ports.

>>213751851
Well, the prices certainly have shot up, but I remember going to some local game stores with mostly old games back in the 00s. I remember I got a copy of the JoJo fighting game for Dreamcast for like $25. It's like 20x that price now. Of course it getting a new anime and becoming popular helps.

>>213752019
never forget

>>213748882
also on year 30 of boomers still controlling the majority of the countries resources and government power and company leadership

>>213752103
did he finish reading to the class or did he leave after the second plane?

>>213748882
Culturally speaking, the 80s has been the best decade of the past half-century at least. Nothing else even comes close to it.

>>213749302
stuff made on digital instead of film really really sucks

>>213747345
I used to post on here all the time about 12+ years ago how our culture is frozen at about 2007 or so and will never progress pass that point. Everyone used to shit on me for it.

>>213749391
I'd say John Lennon or the beatles

>>213749391
It's still Tay. She's essentially running unopposed.

>>213747958
That's just retards for you. i hear ppl all the time talk about Dark Souls 3 as if it came out in 1998 when in reality that game isn't even fucking 10yrs old yet. Blame it on tech pumping shit out so fast that ppl's brains cant keep up and they think its some ancient piece of tech. Hell ppl think I'm fucking 80 when I say I still have a VCR

Avenging Spirit is a cute little Gameboy platformer where you can possess enemies to traverse levels. It's quite high-quality, but I've never anyone discuss it online.

>>213747958
He very well could have been playing Pokemon Gen 1 as a kid. Zoomers had a lot of retro gaming hardware at their disposal, courtesy of millennial family members.

>>213748673
Dad just had an nes, snes and n64 on the book shelf, hooked up to our TV. Remember trying to play duck hunt on the super mario / duck hunt cartridge and didn't understand why the gun wouldn't work. Dad had to explain to me it only workd with analog TV. Was annoyed as fuck. Still never got to play duck hunt.

>>213751530
This is such a stupid post. It's not even arguing what it's supposed to be arguing.

>>213752413
No, it isn't. It makes a very good point. You're just extremely stupid.

>>213752462
lol, okay bud you're right. I'm stupid and YOU are smart.

>>213751889
We're on 4chan. Of course I'm wasting time.

>>213752413
Videogames were changing at a rapid rate, in terms of both graphics and gameplay. The SNES could barely handle the most primitive of polygonal 3D with the use of special enhancement chips, while more advanced 3D gameplay was the standard by the very next generation. Progression between gens back then was like going from silent films to talkies, changes which fundamentally altered the medium. Nowadays its like how films have gone from using a lot of CGI to even more slightly better (sometimes) CGI.

>>213751530
This anon gets it. It's also why cars made in 2005 aren't viewed as classic today. They look like shit compared to the cars of the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and even the 90s. Then it all got samey. Funny thing that.
But make no mistake, the PS2 will never ever feel like a golden classic, but the N64 will.

>>213751530
Pearls before swine, anon.

>>213752976
Nta, but maybe normgroids will understand once true hologram games come about or holodeck-like technology. And none that implies goggles or any nonsense of course.

>>213751530
>The PS3 and 360 will never be retro until an entire new era of gaming is invented
I think you mean 'feel' or 'seem' retro.
Younger people these days I don't think realized how huge of a leap we had in technology the past 40 or so years. It's been non stop significantly improving. Then the PS3 and 360 era happened and that was a huge leap. Then PS4 and XBOXHUGE and WiiU happened. Nothing too impressive. Same for PS5 etc. It feels like technology in terms of graphics has stagnated. Optimization has improved, but it seems like many game devs don't care about that. They think 'eh who cares we have the space' when in the past that amount of space you could cram in an entire library from a console system.
Seeing my first 3D game was a major thing. That is partially why SM64 is still one of my favorite games of all time. Nothing was like it at the time- nothing. And, in a way, nothing still has come close to it.
I still remember seeing Elder Scrolls Oblivion for the first time and being absolutely blown away from the graphics. I didn't think video games could get more realistic than that. I don't think younger people know what that was like because graphical leaps like that haven't really happened in a while.

>>213747345
It's just how our brains work. We gravitate towards whole numbers and 2000 was the nearest milestone.

>>213751435
It also fucked up zoomers politically too. Had these two white rich bitches who did a presentation in my 8th grade social studies class about the Invisible Children shit

>>213751956
Your childhood is now a Zoomer's history lesson.

>>213750304
Two

>>213749228
The new designs don't have the nostalgia value of the older designs. The only times new Pokemon become popular is when they're goonerbait. My obsession with Pokemon as a kid peaked around Gen 4 so any Pokemon after that is going to be more forgettable. It's been around long enough that it's able to sell on nostalgia alone so the early Gen designs are what stick.

>>213747345
Actually colors stopped at 2000. Every decade prior had a unique color palette used for fashion and home decoration. Now it seems like anything goes. We're beyond that,

>>213749228
They are the Pokemon that millennials, now parents themselves, grew up with so they are more willing to buy items with these designs to their own kids

>>213749228
The designs are pretty good, so I see why they market them so much. However, I think it is more so that they are appealing to KANTOOOOO fans than anything. How many people love Gen. 1 over the rest of them? I think a large group of Pokemon fans fall on that nostalgia of liking the first generation, so they cater to them. Basically what >>213753502 said.

>>213747345
the timeline has shifted at least twice since 1999, it makes sense most of us only really identify with the eras before this. The world we live in today is so different from 30 years ago it's more like 200. This current timeline is hellish and insane, and most of us can feel it. We don't identify with the current times because the current times aren't ours. everyone born after like 2005 were born in a hellworld version of the old world.

>>213748876
Limitless is a highly dubious pick. Are you genuine or baiting with that one, seems incredibly out of place on an otherwise reasonable list.
My recollection is that it was actually a very bad movie.

>>213753180
If you look at 360/ps3 games now they look pretty dated. I think a lot of people who play those games on steam or a remaster on ps4/5 are looking back with rose tinted glasses. The jump from 360/ps3 to xbone/ps4 was pretty big graphically it is just the kinds of games didn't change. No 2D to 3D games style jump. However PS4 to PS5 is barely noticeable. It doesn't help that the PS5 has no real standout games that aren't sequels and remakes that only look marginally better.

>>213753180
I'll never forget that feeling when you leave the dungeon right at the start and see the world, and then realised it's not just scenery you can actually go anywhere amazing

>>213753714
>If you look at 360/ps3 games now they look pretty dated. I think a lot of people who play those games on steam or a remaster on ps4/5 are looking back with rose tinted glasses. The jump from 360/ps3 to xbone/ps4 was pretty big graphically
Not really. It was considered minimal at the time and still is today. Games still look and run like garbage. Half of the most popular games of the xbone era still looked just like uprezzed 360 games.

Most of the dated shit on old ps3/360 era games are in the menus/button text and menu text fonts. The actual textures/lighting/etc were very similar, biggest difference was how much more RAM the newer consoles demanded for a slightly higher resolution and texture increase.
pic unrelated dont get on my ass for that

>>213753733
>zoom zoom

>>213753867
most 360 games were 720p not even full hd. I bought an xbone like a retard and was impressed by how vibrant and good looking the new games were. I didn't get that feeling at all this gen. People look at old bullshots and play the 360 games today and say that they hold up but that is because they don't remember that 720p 30fps was standard. A lot of those games look terrible on original hardware and look passable on backwards compatibility/modern pc.

>>213749156
Stay away from my children.

>>213753910
I'm 40 but okay

>>213751858
and knowing is half the battle

>>213748720
Huff some more fumes, wasteoid.

>>213754380
And oblivion was your first elder scrolls game? Fake gamer.

Itt bunch of sad old farts.

>>213747958
That is pretty normal.
My father was ignorant of video games and I didn't really care all that much either, but still found them fun.
That worked out that I got a Gameboy Color and Pokemon Blue for my birthday in like 2008. Still had fun and it was basically a novelty by that point so it wasn't even lame to others.

>>213748876
I loved the ps2, it was really fucking popular so no I think we did realize it was special. It did get more normalfags into games though which led to it becoming shittier

>>213747231 (OP)
Citizen Kane
Gone with the Wind
Snow White
King Kong
Star Wars
The Wizard of Oz
Titanic
Jaws
Lawrence of Arabia
Rocky

>>213747231 (OP)
Can the whole Criterion Collection be considered a museum?

>>213747231 (OP)
People still alive remember the PS2. I dont remember seeing the atari in museums in the 90s. I saw it in my cousins living room and we played the shot out of it.

>>213753275
Virgin Cola was actually pretty good.