Thread 213750945

Crying at the credits, this was my favorite by a mile. Why was it hated? I've never read comments, only heard it was the black sheep of the franchise. Not sure if I could call it the "best one" when it literally doesn't have Rocky as a boxer anymore, and each entry had such a different flavor that it's unfair to compare, they're all probably the best at what they set out to do. But this one by design has to be the most emotional because it's putting Rocky on the line this time. Not Apollo, not Adrian, not Mikey, this time the writing is on Rocky's wall and it's such a well crafted movie for a boxing franchise now dealing with your rightfully retired hero.

>>213750945 (OP)
Finally someone with taste- Rocky V is the the third best behind 1 and 2 because it goes back to the real grounded and emotional Rocky stakes about a regular guy doing the best he can with what he’s got, loved them going back to the hood and him finally getting back into his son’s life- the Tommy Gunn was a perfect cap off and blend of Rocky I and II emotional weight and Rocky III and IV’s over the top goofiness

Really there’s no bad Rocky film but this is truly an underrated and underappreciated masterpiece and it being ragged on signifies how society started to lose their touch when it came to understanding great writing

But legit the entire movie I had this feeling of
>Does he still have it in him..? Perhaps not..?
Mixed with dread, because frankly Rocky shouldn't be touching the gloves anymore not even for practice. We had tons of reminders of how critically damaged the Drago fight left him. But it's also so close to core manhood, any man above 25 or 30 will probably find it relatable. That feeling of being so, so close to your prime, to your best years, maybe the beast is still there and you can pull off that deadlift or hike, your best mark was just some months ago, a year or two ago, I shouldn't be so different today.

Rocky is fresh off the biggest battle of his life against Russia, his muscles and reflexes still trained and ready to fight, he was running on snowy mountains pulling wood some weeks ago.. but it's already over. That time is gone.
But the writers let you give your farewell to Peak Stallone with a very emotional and dignified script that recognizes how big he was, even the bad guy seems to respect him and tells Tommy
>That guy fought wars

>>213751048
Yep, I mean I loved 3 and 4 precisely because of how tight action films they are.. They're the "pure boxing" movies. But damn it seems I was craving some of the old drama. And I think it deserves extra cookies because writing such a movie sounds really hard, you're sending off the main hero of a million dollar franchise, people will probably hate to see your heroe being washed up - but they do it phenomenally. Anyone who knows anything about boxing knows one can't go on forever, and this was already said to us as early as 2. Adrian didn't want him back on the ring after the first Apollo fight nearly killed him. He was so screwed after the 2nd one that Mikey had to pick easy opponents and feared for his life on 3, and on 4 he outright wasn't meant to fight anymore but it got personal. Finally on 5 we get a truly retired Rocky and see him deal with his new life, it's an epilogue to the franchise.

Just checked, it's a skill issue. The movie apparently was too dark for most.
However there's ONE valid complaint - it makes no sense for Rocky to be poor. 5 happens literally, quite exactly, right after 4. Right after he defeated Russia in a global event avenging the former American Champion who got killed by Drago.
We see him shower, return home, and that very night they find out Paulie lost all the money - it wouldn't matter after the first paragraph, he would be making millions after what he just did, every program would want interviews and partnerships, he literally just got off the plane from winning a US vs Russia proxy war in the Cold War era.
But I didn't think any of that while watching the film, most probably wouldn't.

>Mickey loves ya
;_; genuinely my favourite scene out of all rocky movies

Punch

>>213750945 (OP)
unironically too ahead of its time. people were still high on 80s euphoria and didn't want to see their champ braindamaged and reduced to poverty and suffering. if it had been made in the late 1990s, it would've been better received.

>>213752253
It's similar to all those "washed up protagonist" movies they make today except Rocky doesn't pass the torch and die at the end.

>>213752380
if it came out today rocky would die and get replaced by a woman and a mulatto kid

>>213750945 (OP)
Fuck that movie, that's why. Rocky doesn't lose everything and get poor again and he doesn't have CTE.
Got it? Rocky IV (original version with the robot) it the peak.

>>213752380
Rocky looks good on this one though, I think that's the difference. He wasn't some Luke Skywalker to cite the worst example from recent memory. Well you could exaggerate the flaw of him ignoring his son, but it's easy to comprehend, he was reliving his glory days through Tommy who went through his own trilogy offscreen

Not like this Rockybros