Thread 213759635

I just can’t fucking wait for part 2 of season 2, I need more of the Addams family, is the old series worth watching or should I watch the movies? How do they compare to Wednesday?

>>213759635 (OP)
Haven't seen Wednesday and probably never will but The Addams Family is one of the best sitcoms of the 60s. However the peak was definitely the movie "Addams Family Values"

>>213759635 (OP)
I haven't watched any of Wednesday but I've watched a lot of the sitcome and the two 90s movies.
The sitcom is mostly just wholesome fun and the two movies are above average 90s sitcom movie adaptations. They're pretty good and have a great cast at least.
If you are a teenage girl you will probably be bored though.

>>213759635 (OP)
It’s better than Wednesday.

The movies will get you more in the mood

>>213759653
I like the first one a bit more, because you get to spend more time in the sweet Adams house, but the funniest moments from the two movies are definitely in the second one.
Debbie and Wednesday at summer camp are way better than they deserved to be.

>>213759824
Would they be able to get away with the joke about the camp counselors being unfamiliar with the name Jamal if it were made today?

>>213759635 (OP)
The 90s addams family casting mogs every single actor from the netflix show, worst mogging probably being gomez and morticia
Also ricci>ortega

>>213759921
There’s no Enid in them though.

>>213759977
Debbie>Enid

Also enid is garbage in season 2 anyways

>>213759977
Even better!

>>213759653
>>213759668
>>213759824
>>213759921
Should I watch the movies first or the 1964 tv show?

The early 90s movies were peak Addams Family.

>>213760031
I have a feeling snakeboy rescues her in second half of s2 and she accepts who she was before she wolfed out and her past and present are still her. It doesn't have to be one or the other. A redemption arc or something and she gets back with snakeboy

>>213760225
I don't care about her arc anymore, they ruined her character in part 1

>>213759857
Of course they would. The 2nd Addams Family movie has Wednesday fall in love with a nerdy Jew boy and all the antagonists are blonde Christian campers. It's like it was made 2 years ago.

>>213760211
I'd watch a few sitcom episodes to see if you like it then move onto the movies whenever you feel like it.

>>213759635 (OP)
The 60s sitcom is the most faithful to the original comic strips and is nothing like the modern Wednesday TV show, although I only watched the first couple episodes of season 1. The 90s movies also retconned a lot of stuff, like making Uncle Fester Gomez's brother, when originally he was Morticia's Uncle. In fact, the original lore was that Gomez was a weedy spoilt rich boy from old money in Spain and a hypocrondriac, and it was only when he met Morticia that he became the virile lotherio we know in the stories. All of the Addams Family dark image and love of the macabre comes from Morticia, not Gomez Addams.

>>213760246
I'm not defending her change in character from s1 but teen girls go through a lot of complicated feelings. She wasn't written for us in s2. Her irl audience is all the confused girls in high school who think they have it all figured out. She was tearing up when snakeboy confronted her at the summer camp. She felt remorse

>>213760386
60's Morticia really is prime sitcom waifu material.
I'd fix my life for that.

>>213760246
How so? She’s exactly the same as season 1.

>>213760386
Also, Wednesday was pretty different and isn’t on screen very much. Modern Wednesday is basically defined by Ricci.

Can't cgi a real stage

>>213760307
>anti-Christian propaganda
Into the trash it goes.

>>213760549
It’s also anti-Thanksgiving.

>>213759635 (OP)
If you watch this or the 90s version it will make you hate the villain from Ghost that plays Gomez in Wednesday.

>>213760566
Yikes, wokeism has been spreading in media since the 90s.

>>213760575
You should hate him even if you haven’t seen the old ones. He’s a fat swarth Puerto Rican. Gomez is supposed to be Castillian.

>>213760608
He’s awesome in Wednesday, wtf are you talking about? He looks like a mafioso.

>>213760386
The movies was the start of making them more miserable and hostile to outsiders too. Originally they were quite cheerful and neighbourly despite their tastes, and a lot of the humour came from the fact that they seemed oblivious to how different they were to everyone else.

>>213760608
He's not that bad if you take him as an adaptation of comic strip Gomez.
John Astin and Raul Julia's Gomez's are just far more iconic though and frankly better.

>>213760979
Not just that aspect, but the fact the Adams family were so weird compared to the normal people around them, but were much friendlier people and a more loving family.

>>213760931
>implying I watched Wednesday

Wednesday ruined the most soulful premise ever I strongly recommend the 1996 tv show also highly kino

>>213761095
The cartoon?

>>213759635 (OP)
The 60s show is unfathomably based. Just know that the Addams family from the 60s were all very nice, wholesome, loyal people who simply didn't fit in to regular and normal society because they don't realize that they're different. Would unironically let Gomez invest and lose all of my money, then have him pay me back 50 times over because another company he invested in massively profited with the demise of the one all my money went to, and the old chap would generously share the returns with me.

>>213761162
There was a show in the late 90s called The New Addams Family but I never saw it.
I didn't mind the cartoon as a kid, and John Astin is Gomez in it so its probably good just for that.

>>213759977
>he thinks we need freaky wereslut to be kino
Child hands typed your post.
>>213760307
To be fair, Wednesday and Pugsley were the villains of that part along with the Jew. Also, she she kills him at the ending, so he simped for nothing.

>>213761445
>to be fair, Wednesday and Pugsley were the villains of that part
Did we watch the same movie? The movie portrays them as being in the right compared to the intolerant campers and staff who are trying to force them to change who they are.
Ok sure setting fires and shit during the finale is technically villainous behaviour, but in the framing of the move it isn't. They don't receive any consequences for what they did for example. They just get to rush off to conclude the Debbie plot

>>213761511
Of course they were trying to force change. The whole point is how backwards the family is and the counselors are doing their job and trying to fix it. In any other film this would be seen as a good thing, but because it is Wednesday and Pugsley it is seen as a bad thing. They had a similar plot in the series when the kids first went to school. As for them getting away with it, that's part of the joke. The same thing happened in the first movie where they had an overly bloody play in school and only their family enjoyed their scene. You could argue that Calvin destroying his school showed how school is evil because nothing bad happens to Calvin despite him clearly being in the wrong with your logic.
>>213760386
This is false. The witch grandma was actually Gomez's in the sitcom.
>>213760979
They were like that in the films too. They bought out an auction for charity for example. The only real hostility was from Wednesday during summer camp. At least as far as something added to the movies goes.

>>213761095
Wednesday elevated what was already good.

>>213760386
>vampussy brings out the best out of Gomez
Wholesome

>>213759635 (OP)
the old show if funny and wholesome, and the 90s movies are masterpieces. the problem is, if you like the current show, your taste is terrible, and you won't appreciate them. or maybe you're not beyond saving, and after watching the originals, you'll start hating the current show, which would be a net gain.

>>213761687
>Of course they were trying to force change. The whole point is how backwards the family is and the counselors are doing their job and trying to fix it
You are insane. Going back to the 60s the main theme of the Adams family is they are good people despite their weirdness and that contorting yourself to fit into the norms is unimportant if you are kind, tolerant and loving.
Since when has it been a camp counselors job to put kids through a Clockwork Orange brainwashing experience with Disney movies?

>>213759635 (OP)
Why the fuck are you watching a show for teen girls, you absolute fucking faggot???

>>213761832
Which is why they were shown as antagonists, jackass. Also, their methods were silly, but being forced to watch The Little Mermaid isn't torture or brainwashing, mong.

>>213761877
>forced to watch The Little Mermaid isn't torture or brainwashing, mong
It's absolutely framed that way in the movie you retard. The camp counselors and the bratty campers are the antagonists in that plot. It's embarrassing you can't even understand a fucking Adams Family movie.

>Error when downloading the 1080p torrent of the 1964 show on TorrentLeech
It’s over, guess I’ll have to just watch the movies then…

>>213761224
The Addams in Wednesday are also very nice to everyone, it’s only Wednesday that's a bit of an antisocial.

>>213761929
Of course they are antagonists, jackass. It is only shown as bad though because they are backwards with things and find traditional fairytales to be horror movies. The majority of children wouldn't. The same thing happened in the show, only it was reading them a story instead of them watching a movie.
>child never watched the movie and it shows
They didn't just try to change them because of nothing, it took a good bit of messing up on the kid's end before that. Or, did you miss the part where Pugsley intentionally shot and killed an endangered bird during archery? The fact that you are too stupid understand that even a villain can be shown in the light and that the protagonists usually are is what is embarrassing.

>>213762052
You are either a troll or genuinely autistic.
How a movie is trying to portray a character and their actions can differ from how you would judge them if it was real life. Welcome to movies
You have no understanding of tone, framing or editing at all. There's no point continuing this, you are too autistic to ever understand or just baiting

>>213760386
The 60s show outright invented a lot of shit that were not part of the comic strip

>>213760386
No he’s a five generation pirate

Are the comics collected in hardcover or anything?

>>213762492
I think they’re mostly out of print.

>>213761687
>This is false. The witch grandma was actually Gomez's in the sitcom
She was Morticia's mother in the original comic, and initially Charles Addams gave her maiden name as Frump when they were developing the 60s show, which is also Morticia's maiden name. For some reason this was changed during its run, probably when they wrote the episode where they explain Gomez and Morticia's meeting, and they had Margaret Hamilton (who was the Wicked Witch in Wizard of Oz) as a guest star, so they probably wanted to write a part for her. She's been changed back to Morticia's mother for some of the other adaptations.

>>213762136
>There's no point continuing this, you are too autistic to ever understand or just baiting
Yes, just toss in a childish fallacy when proven wrong so you can get the last word.

>>213762732
Ok schizo

>>213762713
In the show, she is on Gomez's side. If I recall, Gomez was supposed to be part of some rich Castilian family that did have some ties to the occult, which is where she was supposed to come from. Obviously the movies changed that and had Fester as his more bizarre family member.

>>213762277
None of them even had names. Only Morticia and Wednesday a couple years before the TV show was made when they realeased some merchandise from the comic. Charles Addams worked on the TV show though and and the sitcom is faithful to the comics in as much as the Addams Family were a inverted version of stereotypical American family and didn't exist in some spooky supernatural universe.

>>213762859
I mean Thing is inherently supernatural and stuff like the living bear rug too but I generally agree.

How the fuck do you guys have an encyclopedic knowledge of a 60's tv show

>>213762932
>He doesn't know the full deep lore behind I Dream of Jeannie
ngmi

>>213762932
Anon, we're honorary spergs. Why would you ask that question?

>>213762932
This is /tv/. It's not /cmd/ (casual movies discussion). Lurk. Watch good movies/tv shows that aren't just this year's mainstream interests.
Basically, do you homework, kid.

>>213759653
The original was kino also. It was a great idea finding uncle fester and fester being a conman with amnesia. The old comics were good also.

the old sitcom is the best, max comfy and wholesome
and not modern quirk chungus LGPRTQIA+ minorities are better than everyone wholesome, real wholesomeness

>>213762901
It seemed like anything magical was at least confined to the Addams Family themselves. Although another detail is that Thing wasn't a disembodied hand in the comic, the gag was that his identity was unknown and was so grotesque he couldn't be published so only his hand was ever visible.

>>213762932
>encyclopedic knowledge

Most of these things can be read up on Wikipedia, zoomer

>>213762957
>>213763057
>>213763081
Yeah, I guess that's my bad. I think it's awesome, but my mind just doesn't work that way. I don't even remember what I did yesterday.

>>213762932
They used to show this in my country during the school holidays, and more recently it's streaming non stop on Amazon because they bought MGM who hold the rights.

>>213763254
What do you think Wikipedia is, fuckhead?

>>213762932
I randomly found a bunch of episodes on youtube after having watched the 90s movies and cartoon as a kid.
I liked it so I watched a lot of it.

>>213763233
Where in the modern show does it say minorities and LGBTQIA people are better than anyone else? Inclusion doesn't mean one group is superior to another, it means everyone is equal.

>>213763448
NTA but I don't think he was necessarily accusing the new show of that, just the general modern use of the word wholesome by "that" crowd

Kino sitcom.

Simple as.

>>213759635 (OP)
The 2 films are great. Addams Family Values is a certified classic.
>>213759653
>>213759668
>I haven't watched any of Wednesday
Season 1 is a generic YA murder mystery set in a magical school with Wednesday shoved in.
Season 2 is classic Addams Family shenanigans

>>213763349
The same thing you do everyday. Try to take over the world.
But smoked weed and forgot. Last week you found a recording on your phone after your weed session of you saying BANANAFOFANA for 2 hours and 22 minutes non-stop.

>>213762932
Hint: they don't
It's the same with basically every modern adaptation. Everyone on the internet pretends like they're experts, and deeply offended by any changes to the source material. In reality, 90% of the whiners just autistically perused the wikipedia articles when it was announced, and only 10% of them (at most) are hardcore shutins who actually genuinely know all the lore and find random internet forums to be the only place they can let loose.

>>213763747
>Everyone on the internet pretends like they're experts, and deeply offended by any changes to the source material
True, but this generally happens most when new adaptations make obviously terrible changes from source material. If a change is good its usually accepted, even if its a retcon.
These people know the change is terrible, but can't articulate why exactly. The easiest solution to this in an argument is to go to wikipedia to use the source material as an argument instead.
This thread really has not been that bad either, lets be fair. Nobody hear is actually shitting on the 90s movies for the changes they made, just explaining the difference between them and the comic strip or whatever

>>213763747
Or, you know, they had reruns on tv and we grew up watching it. Not everything is a lie/conspiracy.
In my country we had Adams Family, Alfred Hitchcock Presents (B&W), The Saint and Honey West during late nights for people who didn't care for talk-shows. Fun times. During the week-end we had old movies at the same time.
Now it's just shit like Pawn Star or infomercials.

>>213763747
Don't get mad because your favourite show is another lame cashgrab remake of some classic from before you were born

>>213763745
>blows weed smoke into your cat's ear
:(

>>213761450
Was gonna post this reaction image but direct it to console-war faggots.
>>213763233
Stop propagating nonsense that you claim to be fighting against.

>>213759635 (OP)
All of the main series are different from one another
The 60s is a bit more family friendly
the two 90s movies are 12+ and the second one has a good Wednesday arc
The third one, I don't remmeber but it's the nu-Addams family, not the original movie ones (the ones that had a tv show) tho the Wednesday actress is still hot
There's also the two cartoons, onei s a tv show and was aimed at kids and the other is the last two cartoon movies and focus more on Wednesday (they were made solely to advertise the TV show that was being made)

>>213763910
>If a change is good its usually accepted, even if its a retcon.

Which might be only after a year of whining about it endlessly.

>These people know the change is terrible
It’s pure kneejerk reaction and basically half of fandoms have been trained to start bitching the second something is even remotely off and clap like seals if the visuals match but it looks generic and boring as hell

Wednesday is the best Addams Family show ever made and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.

>>213764591
Because it's not an Addams family show, anon.
It's a netflix standard shitty teen drama where faggots online fap their little dicklets to 30 year old women pretending to be 16

>>213764471
>Addams Family Reunion
Christ I forgot this existed (again). I can't remember if I ended up watching it last time I found out it existed.
>the last two cartoon movies
The first was passable, but incredibly bland and safe. The second was embarrassingly shit

>>213764616
Show me another "teen drama" as good and as unique as Wednesday.

>>213764915
But it's not good, that's the problem.
Remove Enid, what do you have? literally over 90% of the threads on here about the show were filled with shit about her

She's the only reason it's good
unless you like mexican girls who look mid 40s at age 20

there's also the unofficial Wendesday Youtube series