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>Bible stupid
>Christians stupid
>God stupid
Anonymous No.213814372 >>213817506 >>213828465 >>213831660
>>213814356 (OP)
Yes, and?
Anonymous No.213814377 >>213818036
>>213814356 (OP)
2 out the 3 ain't bad.
Anonymous No.213814403
>>213814356 (OP)
Shit talking to make some deals is no less gifting than churches keeping food pantries for the down + out
Anonymous No.213814518 >>213814546 >>213814547 >>213815149 >>213817856
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. (1 Corinthians 1:18)
Anonymous No.213814546
>>213814518
Dead, so there's no such thing as sin for Christians, huh?
Anonymous No.213814547
>>213814518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdvKMIkTxzE
Anonymous No.213814583 >>213816921 >>213817178 >>213818359 >>213820186 >>213820975 >>213822505 >>213824361 >>213824492
>>213814356 (OP)
Christians are stupid. Like fair enough if you believe in a creator and the words of Jesus but anybody who follows a religion just so they get to go to heaven when they die, is retarded. You're literally wasting your life and ruining the lives of others with your bullshit. If you honestly need religion to be a good person, you probably weren't good to begin with. Stop fearing the reaper and make up your own damn mind.
Anonymous No.213815149
>>213814518
Woah dude....a Bible verse said.... that people who don't believe in Jesus... are wrong!!!???
Okay, this really convinced me.
Anonymous No.213815162
>>213814356 (OP)
>Bible stupid
>Christians stupid
>God stupid
Yeah
Anonymous No.213815166
>>213814356 (OP)
It didn't say that
Anonymous No.213815240 >>213815282 >>213817307 >>213818403 >>213825775
>written by picrel
gentlemen, need I say more?
Anonymous No.213815262
>>213814356 (OP)
jew producer
Anonymous No.213815274 >>213815298
>>213814356 (OP)
>Christians stupid
Yes they literally believe in magic. That is only possible if you are a stupid person.
Anonymous No.213815282 >>213815982
>>213815240
His name is Alex.
Anonymous No.213815298
>>213815274
this is not a high iq board. people think jenna ortega will be their girlfriend, and sam hyde is talking to them on here
Anonymous No.213815319
>>213814356 (OP)
If you actually watched the show, it's more like
>God/Christianity le good
>hypocritical fake retards le bad
Anonymous No.213815425 >>213817057
It's as "bible/christians stupid" as Gemstones is, which is barely.
Anonymous No.213815572 >>213827537
I think it was more "protestants are bad".
Anonymous No.213815710
>>213814356 (OP)
Sounds like you didn't watch it
Man these low IQ subhuman shitskins love to lie
Anonymous No.213815799
>>213814356 (OP)
i consider this show and metalocalypse to be adult swims's top shelf kino
Anonymous No.213815953
>>213814356 (OP)
I have no problem with larping tradcucks being portrayed as mentally ill hypocrites since they're like this irl even the terminally online ones that come to an anime website are just as fucking retarded
>God stupid

This was never implied
Anonymous No.213815982
>>213815282
>STAR BURNS
>BURN THE NIGHT SKY ALIVE
>STAR BURNS
>HE WILL NEVER DIE
Anonymous No.213816021 >>213817207
The show is WASPs are stupid.
And they have little to do with real Christianity.
They follow godless British Utilitarianism instead of any actual Christian morals.
Anonymous No.213816393 >>213816845
>>213814356 (OP)
Talmud stupid
Zionism stupid
Shoah stupid
Anonymous No.213816829 >>213818307 >>213819174 >>213819528 >>213819586 >>213821067
>nuclear family
>actually the mom is depressed
>actually the dad is a gay abusive alcoholic
Anonymous No.213816845 >>213817689 >>213818031 >>213818456
>>213816393
for some reason fedora atheists absolutely love judaism
Anonymous No.213816863
>>213814356 (OP)
All of those statements are correct that's why god dieded. Nietzsche writes about it extensively.
Anonymous No.213816870
>the dad knew what pee tasted like
Anonymous No.213816921 >>213817036 >>213818009
>>213814583
Most humans aren’t good people.
Anonymous No.213817036
>>213816921
Basically the point of the show
Anonymous No.213817057 >>213817261
>>213815425
Had a couple atheists friends who watched a few episode of Gemstones and Moral Orel and dropped both shows when they realized it wasn't wasn't gonna be the writers opening a bible and shitting in it every episode. When I told one of them Orel ends up happy in the end and still has his faith he seemed genuinely disappointed.
Anonymous No.213817094
>>213814356 (OP)
>hehe, Christian ideology stupid
>okay, so you're saying we should ditch dumb Christian concepts like human life having inherent value and all the dumb international laws based around Christian ideology
>NOOO NOT LIKE THAT YOU CAN'T DITCH *those* CHRISTIAN CONCEPTS REEEEE
Atheists who claim to hate Christianity would be more tolerable if they were honest about their belief systems.
Anonymous No.213817142
>>213814356 (OP)
Bashing on Christianity was always low hanging fruit and it’s not impressive or even original.
Anonymous No.213817178 >>213817232 >>213820894 >>213821156
>>213814583
You morality is so infused with Christian teachings that your very idea of what a "good person" is is essentially a good Christian, just one that doesn't call himself a Christian. They fact that you cannot admit this makes you absurd.
Anonymous No.213817207
>>213816021
Oy vey!
Anonymous No.213817232 >>213817266
>>213817178
>You morality is so infused with Christian teachings
How so?
What is specifically Christian about modern Western morality?
Anonymous No.213817261 >>213819211
>>213817057
Orel was always portrayed as a brainwashed and naive kid, so it's no wonder he kept his faith.
Anonymous No.213817266 >>213817396 >>213827659 >>213829310
>>213817232
>hurting other people is wrong
Try that one, for starters. The Romans didn't believe hurting other people was wrong, they just believed that hurting other Romans was wrong.
Anonymous No.213817307 >>213817748 >>213819092 >>213819662 >>213825775
>>213815240
I don't even have to look at Early Life. Why is it always like this?
Anonymous No.213817315 >>213824132
satanic jewish show
Anonymous No.213817377
>>213814356 (OP)
This show appeared on tv tropes as a show that suddenly got dark
Anonymous No.213817396 >>213817478
>>213817266
that's super generic and you'll find that notion anywhere in the world and history
Anonymous No.213817478 >>213817675
>>213817396
No, you won't. You just think that you will because you've grown up in a Christian country imbibing Christian ideology. The most common pre-Christian view is one highly focused on in groups vs out groups. You could do lots of horrible things to people who were part of the out group, but if you did them to people who were part of your in group it was totally unacceptable. One of the great Christian innovations was to make it so that out group people had as much value as a human being than in group people did, though obviously there was a lot of hypocrisy with that belief in practice. Still, the fact that that belief exists at all is pretty unusual, there were some other faiths that believed in something similar, like the Taoists, but ultimately it's a pretty rare ideological trait and was one of the reasons Christianity spread to different peoples so effectively.
Anonymous No.213817506 >>213819759
>>213814372
>I'm 12 and this is deep
Anonymous No.213817564
God is real and he will smite israel again
Anonymous No.213817581 >>213817626
>>213814356 (OP)
The bible is actually stupid
Anonymous No.213817626 >>213817640
>>213817581
reread it about 3 times
Anonymous No.213817640
>>213817626
You can beat the cia is there somewhere
Anonymous No.213817651
>>213814356 (OP)
Yes to all
Anonymous No.213817675 >>213817925
>>213817478
No, it isn't.
Judaism already had rules like that.
So does Buddhism, so does Hinduism (and Islam but that's newer and influenced by Christianity)

The only unique thing in Christianity here is that it's more consistent about it, because all Christian scripture is from a time where Christianity was a minority religion. And minority religions are basically forced to be tolerant.
You see that well in the Koran, the parts from a time where Islam hasn't conquered its area yet preach tolerance, and the later parts, once they had the upper hand, preach kill all infidels.
The same happened with Christianity, Christians didn't think twice about killing savages and heretics, it's just not reflected in scripture.
Anonymous No.213817689
>>213816845
Interesting headcannon
All religions are grift scam
Anonymous No.213817748
>>213817307
Jews are smarter than you maybe?
Anonymous No.213817754
>>213814356 (OP)
Completely not the point but your probably alreafy knew that christian larp anon
Anonymous No.213817826
>>213814356 (OP)
Moral Orel doesn’t even bag on Christianity, it bags on charlatans who pretend to be Christians while secretly being horrible ass people. Orel himself is exalted in the show as a righteous person in a dark world.
Anonymous No.213817856
>>213814518
>if you dont buy into our grift you're dumb
they really covered all their bases huh?
Anonymous No.213817925 >>213817940
>>213817675
Judaism specifically makes a difference between Jew and non-Jew, and in that way it is very consistent with traditional pre-Christian ideological doctrine. Greeks had different rules for how you treat Greeks vs how you treat barbarians (non-Greeks). Romans had different rules for how you treat Romans vs how you treat non-Romans. I can't speak too much for Hinduism or Buddhism since I'm not as familiar with them as I am with the West, but in Europe and the Middle East the view was always to treat your people in different ways than you treat outsiders.

And you are also wrong about how Christianity was unique. There were hundreds of cults in the ancient world, but they typically worked in a polytheistic manner and many of them were secretive. Christianity on the other hand was a universalist cult, which tied directly into the idea of human life itself having value. It wasn't that Christianity was tolerant, in fact Christianity was quite intolerant compared to pagan cults which accepted the existence of other pagan cults. Through universalism, Christianity wanted to squash other types of religious belief, but its universalism also prioritized all human life. The modern equivalent would be something like George W Bush trying to force Iraq and Afghanistan to become Christian, or leftists attacking non-traditionally Christian countries over their human rights records.
Anonymous No.213817940
>>213817925
>George W Bush trying to force Iraq and Afghanistan to become Democracies
is what I meant, but that's kind of my point in a nutshell.
Anonymous No.213817959 >>213818635 >>213819778 >>213821209
>>213814356 (OP)
Official religiosity intelligence rankings
>Agnostic theist
>Agnostic atheist
>theist
>atheist
>anti-theist (evangelical atheists)
Don't even (You) me, you retards know I'm right
femanon !M6R0eWkIpk No.213818009
>>213816921
That's because you consider all nonwhites to be humans. if you don't then humanity doesn't look so bad as you thought, shitksin
Anonymous No.213818031
>>213816845
r/atheism is a cesspool, but it’s always been pretty consistent about the fact that all religions are crap. Christianity only takes the brunt of fedora tipper’s angst since 99% of them are former Christians.
Anonymous No.213818036 >>213821394
>>213814377
Which ones are the 2?
Anonymous No.213818052 >>213818231
>>213814356 (OP)
I love to see the groypers claim that being Christian is somehow playing into the Jewish hand, meanwhile all of this anti-Christian bullshit they grew up with is written, produced, and funded by Christ killers.
Anonymous No.213818231 >>213818274 >>213818299 >>213818370 >>213818385 >>213818455 >>213818994 >>213830398
>>213818052
Jesus was a jew
Anonymous No.213818274
>>213818231
>called Jewsus Kike
>was a jew
who writes this shit?
Anonymous No.213818280
>>213814356 (OP)
Correct
Anonymous No.213818299 >>213819541 >>213828058
>>213818231
>Yessss good goyim
>Don't believe in any higher purpose
>Worship money and material goods which we control, like a good goy
>Take your goy slop and like it
Anonymous No.213818307 >>213818448 >>213822458
>>213816829
>Design a dysfunctional family for storytelling purposes
>AHHHHH THE SHOW IS SAYING THE TRADITIONAL FAMILY UNIT IS LE BAD
Are you incapable of absorbing any media without feeling like everything is a personal attack? The show literally ends with Orel starting a family of his own that isn’t dysfunctional.
Anonymous No.213818359 >>213818395
>>213814583
>If you honestly need religion to be a good person, you probably weren't good to begin with
The people who say this are always the biggest asocial BPD assweeds on the planet thoughbeit
Anonymous No.213818370 >>213818551
>>213818231
Up until his baptism. That's why the baptism of Christ is such an historical moment. It marks the birth of Christianity as a faith that's separate from Judaism.
Anonymous No.213818385 >>213818551 >>213818994
>>213818231
Jesus was not a jew and I can prove it logically.
Anonymous No.213818395 >>213818491 >>213818499
>>213818359
we're asocial because the world is populated with 10 billion superstitious retards that would suck your eyes out of your skull if their holy texts said to.
those 'BPD' reactions are normal responses to someone who thinks it's common conversation to inform people how they'll burn forever in hell.
Anonymous No.213818403
>>213815240
Star burns?
Anonymous No.213818448 >>213818721 >>213818797
>>213818307
>Orel starting a family of his own that isn’t dysfunctional
Let me guess, they're atheistic? Or "Christian" in name only? Exactly. The messaging is clear. Just because you've absorbed so much of it that you don't notice it anymore doesn't make it my fault.
femanon !M6R0eWkIpk No.213818455
>>213818231
amazing how this fact is considered controversial here. i hate christcuck spic shitksin faggots so much you have no idea
Anonymous No.213818456
>>213816845
And that's why you constantly hear from them that Noah is a stupid story instead of Jesus not being Logos, right?
Anonymous No.213818491
>>213818395
>it's everyone else that's the asshole I'm just responding in kind!
suuuuuuuuuuuuuure
Anonymous No.213818498 >>213818513 >>213818518 >>213818905
Do jews ever just stop and ask, "is this why God fired us?"
Anonymous No.213818499
>>213818395
Okay but good people aren’t “good people (unless others make me uncomfy)”
Anonymous No.213818513
>>213818498
There's no God retard grow up
Anonymous No.213818518
>>213818498
They still imagine they're his chosen people despite the fact they abrogated the covenant thousands of years ago and he's regularly smited them since.
Anonymous No.213818542
>>213814356 (OP)
>And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
>Matthew 16:18

You lose, Lucifer.
Anonymous No.213818551 >>213818591 >>213818656 >>213818994
>>213818370
>>213818385
Lmao christianism didn't even become a thing until decades after Jesus' death, the whole thing was a retcon for political purpose.
Jesus followers were just some heretical jews with a prophetical twist. The whole baptism into a not even invented religion makes no sense, another scam .
Anonymous No.213818591 >>213818654 >>213819066 >>213820039
>>213818551
>Jews do not believe in the divinity of Christ
>Jews do not believe Christ was the messiah
>Christ believed in his own divinity and recognized himself as the messiah
>Jews killed him for this
>Christ was not a Jew
QED, nigger. FWIW, Christ wasn't even the first Christian. John the Baptist was.
Anonymous No.213818627 >>213818928 >>213819236 >>213819854 >>213820410 >>213822148 >>213825087 >>213827703 >>213827976 >>213828088 >>213828329
Christlarps have become more cancerous and obnoxious for a longer time than fedoras ever were. Atheism was never as intrusive online the way tradcels will post ragebait then shitpost about jewish satanist trannies if you don't share the same outrage. You've been doing this for 10 fucking years.
Anonymous No.213818635 >>213818648
>>213817959
The only aspect of theism that doesn’t automatically qualify you as a retard is the belief that a higher power could or does exist. It’s like aliens. Could God exist? Sure. Did he semi-frequently visit Earth thousands of years ago to part the Red Sea and stick anal probes up people’s asses? No, dumbass.
Anonymous No.213818648
>>213818635
Retard
Anonymous No.213818654 >>213818698
>>213818591
It was a failed attempt at a jewish sect that got hyped after his death just like your favorite cursed painter/writer.
Everything is apocryphal
Anonymous No.213818656 >>213818686 >>213818697 >>213818994
>>213818551
>some heretical jews
>heretical
>adjective: holding an opinion at odds with what is generally accepted
soooo, not jewish anymore then
>also implying decades is in any way a significant length of time historically specially on stuff like clandestine cults which would have minimal historical relevance until it became a problem for the romans
Anonymous No.213818686 >>213818811 >>213818994
>>213818656
He was of the same race. You know this is what the conversation is about.
Anonymous No.213818695
>>213814356 (OP)
All of those are 100% correct. Moral Orel being based as usual.
femanon !M6R0eWkIpk No.213818697
>>213818656
he was ethnically jewish, a semite. he had the same genes as mizrahi jews and arabs, you stupid faggot. HE WAS BROWN
Anonymous No.213818698 >>213819267
>>213818654
>failed attempt
>most widespread religion
Pick one, you absolute gibbon of a man
Anonymous No.213818721 >>213819077
>>213818448
>Let me guess, they're atheistic? Or "Christian" in name only?
It’s funny how you were so confident that the answer to this was yes when you couldn’t be more wrong. Orel never forsakes his Christianity.
Anonymous No.213818797 >>213819077
>>213818448
nigger, watch the show yourself instead of making assumptions
Anonymous No.213818811 >>213818900
>>213818686
so? the sect was already recruiting romans since their very first century, the sect itself was not jewish only since the very beginning
>b-but the first records of them happened decades-
absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, again historically speaking the appearance of Christianity in rome was just right after Jesus' death so the burden of proof is on you because there is not a single peep about it being a jewish sect before that
Anonymous No.213818847
>>213814356 (OP)
>main character stays a christcuck and the only one with actual faith
Anonymous No.213818900 >>213818985 >>213819102
>>213818811
Anon, I....
Anonymous No.213818905
>>213818498
You know what’s funny is the most searing takes on Jews exist in their own dang scriptures, nevermind any additions from Christianity or Islam.
Anonymous No.213818928
>>213818627
I've started ignoring all christcucks because while I hate those other cunty religions at least they never try to preach to me or censor me. They keep to themselves around where I am, whereas Christcucks cannot help themselves but to intrude on people.
Anonymous No.213818944 >>213819477 >>213824992
Wasn't Orel based on a 70s cartoon?
Anonymous No.213818985 >>213819233
>>213818900
>he doesn't know
it was added mockingly bro, by jews nonetheless, fuck me one of the main ressons they wanted the guy crucified was because he wasn't a militant anti-roman
Anonymous No.213818994 >>213819048
>>213818551
>>213818656
>>213818686
>>213818385
>>213818231
Jesus literally isnt a real person and is sloppily planted adhoc with barely any context to the surrounding texts its found in catholic collections of translations hand written centuries later with no intact original copies of said texts and barely any documentation on how and what they were translating
Anonymous No.213819048 >>213819087
>>213818994
>going for that cope
you know even most atheist historians would call you a retard right?
Anonymous No.213819066 >>213819205
>>213818591
now look at it from the other side: christians DO believe in the truth of jewish scripture, they DO believe abraham, moses and all the other kikes were true prophets, they DO pray to the god of the jews and they DO base the divinity of christ on his fulfillment of jewish prophecy.

a christian is therefore a subcategory of jew. it's like rectangles and squares: not every jew is a christian but every christian is a jew.
Anonymous No.213819077 >>213819146 >>213819209 >>213819231 >>213827537
>>213818721
>>213818797
It's created by a Jew to subvert white Christian culture and destroy it from within. It doesn't matter how it ends because that is always the goal. The fact that you want me to watch it so badly is a perfect embodiment of the crab-bucket effect.
Anonymous No.213819087
>>213819048
>most atheist (((historians)))
you never wonder most actual biblical scholars wind up either turning full ashiest or apologetic perpetual cope peddlers?
Anonymous No.213819092 >>213820177
>>213817307
greek?
Anonymous No.213819102 >>213819140 >>213819172
>>213818900
>YOU ARE THE KING OF THE JEWS
>I am what you say I am
Literally "Yeah, whatever you say kike" and kikes like you take it as
>SEE, HE ADMITS IT!!!
Anonymous No.213819140
>>213819102
that's how they took it 2000 years ago so it seems they can't help it lmao
Anonymous No.213819146
>>213819077
Christianity was created by Jews.
Anonymous No.213819172 >>213819521
>>213819102
Yeah bro just like "turn the other cheek" was actually a badass samurai taunt daring your opponent to strike you twice.
Anonymous No.213819174 >>213819586
>>213816829
>posts ads
Anonymous No.213819205 >>213819411
>>213819066
Except they aren't. There is a clear defining trait that separates the two religions. Are Muslims Jews? What about Mandeans? Satanists? They all stem from Jewish theology. Better question: Are Mormons Christian? Most Christian theologians would say no, but they are wrong because the defining trait of a Christian is the belief in Christ as the messiah and a divine entity which Mormons also believe.
Anonymous No.213819209
>>213819077
>culture
Ghost dancers are NGMI
Anonymous No.213819211
>>213817261
The point is over the course of the show he sees how people in his town abuse religion and authority to their own selfish ends and overcomes it while still maintaining his faith in God. The show is more a critique of shitty people using religion as a cudgel to abuse others or to justify their own bigotry, like how most Americans use religion as an excuse to be fat hogs that do nothing but consoom and judge people who live in cities
Anonymous No.213819231 >>213819541
>>213819077
You worship a dead jew you retarded fuck.
Anonymous No.213819233 >>213819369
>>213818985
>it was added mockingly bro, by jews nonetheless
jews did not perform the execution of christ you historically literate baboon, roman soldiers did, which is why that inscription is in latin. the "mocking" part is "rex," not "judaeorum." they knew they were crucifying a jew at the behest of other jews.

>they wanted the guy crucified was because he wasn't a militant anti-roman
the jews that wanted him crucified were pro-roman you absolute retard. they were collaborators. that's why they had the ear of the roman authorities.
Anonymous No.213819236
>>213818627
Trvke. This tradcuck LARP shit that spawned as a counter-movement to fedora tipper epidemic has been going on at least twice as long as the original cancer at this point. I blame third worlders gaining access to the internet.
Anonymous No.213819267 >>213819286
>>213818698
>gets crucified
>gets tortured
>your "friends" let you down
>somehow your cult picks up decades after your shit ass death and everybody profits off of your death.
Yeah he failed but better businessmen picked it up
Anonymous No.213819286 >>213820083
>>213819267
>decades
Christ died in the 30s and the Coptic Church was founded less than a decade later. You don't even have the timeline right.
Anonymous No.213819369 >>213819512
>>213819233
>jews did not perform the execution of christ you historically literate baboon, roman soldiers did
>they knew they were crucifying a jew at the behest of other jews.
do you even read what you are writing once you finish it? of course I knew the guy nailing him were romans, who cares, the jews wanted him gone
>the "mocking" part is "rex," not "judaeorum." is why that inscription is in latin. the "mocking" part is "rex," not "judaeorum."
so you agree that it was a mockery, do you argue just to argue bro?
Anonymous No.213819411 >>213819496
>>213819205
>There is a clear defining trait that separates the two religions.
and there is a clear defining trait that separates squares from non-square rectangles. squares are still a subtype of rectangle. pretending people who spent 2000 years having jewish scripture read out to them in church have nothing to do with jews is delusional.
>the defining trait of a Christian is the belief in Christ as the messiah
and that belief can only exist on top of a jewish belief structure. "the messiah" is a jewish concept. if christians aren't jews then they worship christ for being the [UNDEFINED] and the son of [UNDEFINED] who redeemed them from the sin of [UNDEFINED]
Anonymous No.213819477 >>213824992
>>213818944
It was just a deconstruction of general low budget Sunday school media like veggie tales I thought. I don’t know if it was based on anything specific.
Anonymous No.213819496 >>213819784
>>213819411
Chosen one figures are not unique to Abrahamic religions and it isn't a square and rectangle situation like you're trying to pretend it is. It's a venn diagram where the two entities are separate, but a portion is shared. Would you say a man is a woman? They share the majority of their being. I imagine you would, since you're a subversive faggot, but the reality of the situation is they are two different things despite having shared blueprints.
Anonymous No.213819511
>>213814356 (OP)
>you did not watch it
>yes, you are stupid
Anonymous No.213819512 >>213819590
>>213819369
what are you even trying to talk about? the point is that so-called "christianity" was understood by the roman authorities as a sect of judaism and jesus as a jew criminal. try and follow the conversation.
Anonymous No.213819521
>>213819172
>Apples are red
>YEAH, JUST LIKE ORANGES ARE ACTUALLY RED
You're a drooling, knuckle dragging, low IQ, inept troglodyte.
Anonymous No.213819528 >>213819586
>>213816829
Many such cases, sad
Anonymous No.213819541
>>213819231
See >>213818299
Anonymous No.213819586 >>213819637 >>213819684 >>213819702 >>213819705 >>213819728
>>213816829
>>213819174
>>213819528
Imagine believing the world was actually like this when there's a plethora of video, text, audio, first hand, and second hand evidence to prove you wrong. You want the Nuclear family to die SO BAD you will convince yourself that complete and total fabrications are the truth.
Anonymous No.213819590 >>213819800
>>213819512
>was understood by the roman authorities
so not understood at all
>a sect of judaism
one that was rejected by the jews themselves and propagated among non-jews immediately by his apostles
Anonymous No.213819637 >>213819671 >>213819725 >>213819871
>>213819586
Anonymous No.213819662 >>213820177 >>213825775
>>213817307
>Konstantinos Pollux Alexandros Stamatopoulos
Guess again retard
Anonymous No.213819671 >>213820126
>>213819637
Thank you for proving my point. Go back to taking hormone blockers and shoving dildos up your ass.
Anonymous No.213819684
>>213819586
I dont want the nuclear family to die retard, but some people were absolutely miserable in the past too, thats just factual
Anonymous No.213819702
>>213819586
The nuclear family is unnatural and needs to die.

Living with your extended family has always been the traditional way of life.
Anonymous No.213819705
>>213819586
>You want the Nuclear family to die SO BAD you will convince yourself that complete and total fabrications are the truth.
Nigger, I started a nuclear family. You're a bugman if you romanticize suburbia.
Anonymous No.213819707
white people are so weird
Anonymous No.213819725 >>213819882
>>213819637
this "the nuclear family is actually horrible" delusion feels so dated, I can see it working on the 90s or 00s but you really can tell me we are soooo much better off in current year of forcing kids on hormones and every other family being broken
Anonymous No.213819728 >>213819810
>>213819586
If you were alive in the 1950s you'd be beaten within an inch of your life every week and no woman would look at you, let alone touch you.
Anonymous No.213819759
>>213817506
if calling abrahamic religions dumb makes me a child then get me some animal crackers and juice loser.
Anonymous No.213819778
>>213817959
Anonymous No.213819784 >>213819907
>>213819496
>Chosen one figures are not unique to Abrahamic religions
you call me a "subversive" and then you use blatantly jewish trickery to conceal the truth. you know very well christ isn't a "chosen one" in a generic sense but specifically the chosen one OF JUDAISM. the christian argument for the divinity of christ is and has always been that HE FULFILLS JEWISH PROPHECY. every christian must implicitly accept the truth of judaism because christ is only god IF JUDAISM IS TRUE. he redeems you from adam's sin described in the JEWISH CREATION MYTH and so on.

no amount of weasely kikeposting will change this or conceal it because all you have to do is walk into a christian church and listen to what they're reading to their congregation. it's jewish mythology, without which jesus would be just some guy who died.
Anonymous No.213819800
>>213819590
why are you even arguing if you agree that christianity was a sect of judaism?
Anonymous No.213819810
>>213819728
The 50s were great.
Everyone hated nazis, the markets were regulated, and the rich were highly taxed.
Anonymous No.213819833
Modern women are all whores and I'm Christian
Anonymous No.213819854 >>213819874 >>213819891 >>213820090
>>213818627
Anonymous No.213819871 >>213820126
>>213819637
Anonymous No.213819874
>>213819854
And there's like 2 billlion christians on the planet. Who the fuck are you kidding that they're some frail fucking minority in need of protection. Fuck you.
Anonymous No.213819882 >>213820049
>>213819725
the lib argument that no one was ever happy is obviously nonsense but the "nuclear family" understood as
>suburban house with man + woman + 2.5 children who leave at 18
was already a social experiment and a psyop. it's obviously not as bad as living in ze pod and eating ze bugs but it's an earlier stage of the same process and it's retarded to be nostalgic for it. yesterdays pods were just bigger.
Anonymous No.213819891
>>213819854
I hate all of these people for their own unique reasons. Perhaps you too can form complex opinions when we find that cure for autism.
Anonymous No.213819907 >>213819948 >>213820381
>>213819784
>he's the jewish chosen one!
>that jews not only openly reject, they had him outright executed
And there's the crux of it. There are two kinds of people that denigrate Christianity: jews, and atheist puppets of jews. If Christians were jews, then jews would love them, but they don't. Call me whatever you want, but we both know that the only kike here is (You). It's kind of strange to continually call Christian Jews when the New Testament is a collection of openly anti-semitic texts. There's a reason Christ rejected kikes in favor of gentiles.

>Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Anonymous No.213819944
>>213814356 (OP)
Moral Orel is self-reflective entertainment delivered righteously and honestly. If you claim to be a Christian while rejecting the shows message 1) either you missed the point, or 2) you’re the very thing the show is lampooning. Absolutely no resentment is directed at Christianity itself, nor is it just nihilistic windbag criticism that fails to imply there is a good and true way for a Christian to live their lives. The entire lesson of the show basically an application of this Bible verse:
>Matthew 6:5-6: "And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret"
Anonymous No.213819948 >>213819998
>>213819907
That's cool and all but you still can't reconcile literally believing in all prior jewish mythology up until the debate about whether the messiah was fulfilled or not.
Anonymous No.213819998 >>213820028 >>213820182
>>213819948
Oh, but I can. The debate was settled 2000 years ago when kikes like you rejected the Son of God and continue to do so.
Anonymous No.213820028 >>213820039
>>213819998
>you can't trust Jews but trust this Jew who says he's the son of God
Anonymous No.213820039 >>213820077
>>213820028
>>213818591
Anonymous No.213820049
>>213819882
also don't forget the realty ponzi scheme that is suburbia, still I don't think there's too much wrong with the nuclear family aside of it implying you must throw grandpa in a home
Anonymous No.213820077 >>213820136
>>213820039
>a Jew so untrustworthy even other Jews didn't trust him
Clearly that means he's trustworthy.
Anonymous No.213820083 >>213820136
>>213819286
Wow the mighty coptic church
Anonymous No.213820090 >>213820109
>>213819854
>all your enemies like eating piles of shit! that must make you want to eat and slurp sewage right now huh?
Anonymous No.213820109
>>213820090
*like not eating shit
fuck
Anonymous No.213820126
>>213819871
>>213819671
Gee chuds actually believe that Norman Rockwell is nothing more than the brugerite version of Social Realism
Anonymous No.213820136 >>213820203 >>213820263 >>213820959
>>213820077
>still trying to claim Christ was a kike to get anti-semites away from your most hated religion
I guess we finally reached the end of your script, Moshe. How's the weather on Tel Avenue?

>>213820083
It's the oldest verified continuous church. I'm not Coptic personally, but it really throws a wrench in the whole
>hurf durf Christianity only came about decades/centuries after Christ
Anonymous No.213820177
>>213819092
>>213819662
He's a Greek jew (one of the oldest jewish groups in Europe). Here's a better look at his nose.
Anonymous No.213820182 >>213820208 >>213821087
>>213819998
>the jew prophecy was fulfilled
>tale that, jews!
Profound stuff
Anonymous No.213820186 >>213820211 >>213820328 >>213821087
>>213814583
90% of all notable scholars, artists, engineers, scientists, architects, philosophers, generals and leaders throughout human history were religious. You think you know better than the greatest people who have ever lived?
Anonymous No.213820203
>>213820136
>a Jew born from a Jewish mother in a Jewish land with Jewish friends
Hitler would have gassed him immediately.
Anonymous No.213820208
>>213820182
>The prophecy was fulfilled and grubby kikes like yourself were intentionally excluded
Take that, indeed. You ever wonder why bad shit always happens to your people, Moshe?
Anonymous No.213820211 >>213820249
>>213820186
You think you're among these great men by holding the same belief?
Anonymous No.213820249
>>213820211
That's neither implied nor suggested in that post. As always the leftoid rat can only see immediate forms of superiority for his "ideology", since he has no core values at all.
Anonymous No.213820263 >>213820384 >>213827537
>>213820136
>hurf durf Christianity only came about decades/centuries after Christ
that is always a weird argument, doesn't Paul himself writes about meeting the apostles that personally knew jesus? They always try to imply there is this huge disconnect between Jesus and the first christians but even if it's some years after the first writings available were of people that were alive when Jesus was
Anonymous No.213820328
>>213820186
I'd bet my left nut that it's actually closer to 99%.
Anonymous No.213820376
Wow a martyr whose martyrdom propelled his movement to never before seen levels AFTER his death that's so le weird how could this happen fake news. These are the mental titans I struggle against.
Anonymous No.213820381 >>213820448
>>213819907
you completely fail to engage with my arguments again and again and retreat into blatant cope and manipulation.

>If Christians were jews, then jews would love them, but they don't.
think about this for five seconds, please. different subsects of christianity already don't "love" each other and have historically committed acts of genocide etc against each other, so why would one sect of judaism HAVE to love some other sect of judaism? jews hating christians and christians hating jews is a sectarian conflict between different branches of one faith, just like catholics burning protestants at the stake, just like the fourth crusade etc. the branching point is just slightly older.

no matter how much you try to manipulate the facts it will still be obvious to everyone what the truth is by simple observation. when a child is being raised a christian, it is first taught the jewish creation myth about adam and the apple, because without adam eating the apple jesus the redeemer has nothing to redeem you from. you cannot be a christian without accepting a huge fat book of jewish myth as true. you have to believe in judaism.
Anonymous No.213820384
>>213820263
There's some truth to it, admittedly. The lineage between Christ and the modern churches is unbroken, but biblical canon is so altered from Christ's time that it may as well be separate from it. There wasn't even a biblical canon until late into the 2nd Century, after Marcion of Sinope tried to create one of his own. Ironically, the Gospel of Marcion is probably older than what is the current canon Gospel of Luke, despite not being older than the original text of Luke.
Anonymous No.213820410 >>213820697
>>213818627
The most frustrating thing about the tradcel movement is what a transparent LARP it is. They don't actually believe in Christian ethics, it's just a desperate attempt to revitalize Western culture. Literally just a cargo cult.
>the West was Christian
>we must RETVRN
>??????????
>profit
It's like they can't wrap their head around the fact that you can justify every single /pol/ talking point by just citing statistical data, which is what /pol/ used to fucking do. None of it needs to be religious.
Anonymous No.213820448 >>213820577 >>213820856
>>213820381
And yet you don't, because contemporary Judaism is so far separate from the old testament that it is practically a different religion. In fact, the New Testament is older than the Tanakh by centuries. But I know you already knew that, Moshe. Everything Jews like you claim to be your own is a falsehood.
Anonymous No.213820577 >>213820602
>>213820448
Tanakh != talmud, retard-kun
Anonymous No.213820602 >>213820656 >>213820660
>>213820577
So finally you admit the truth, you sniveling hooknosed rat. Christians are not Jews any more than they are Saracens. Thanks for playing Moshe, get fucked.
Anonymous No.213820656 >>213820697 >>213820727
>>213820602
Always nice to see that amazing Christian tolerance that makes it distinct from other religions like Judaism.
Anonymous No.213820660 >>213820727
>>213820602
I’m not him jackass, you just don’t understand what the core texts of each religion are called so anything else you have to say is immediately called into question. For the record the new testament is right when it calls kikes the synagogue of satan and the opponents of all mankind, and the old testament is one of the most hilariously anti-kike texts ever written
Anonymous No.213820697 >>213820728 >>213820755
>>213820410
>>213820656
There is more to Christianity than the sermon on the mount, faggot.
Anonymous No.213820727 >>213820800
>>213820656
I never claimed tolerance. Quite the opposite through the thread, actually.

>>213820660
No, I fully understand, Moshe. Nice attempt at obfuscation though. The talmud, better known as the old testament, is a text within the tanakh. Contemporary judaism draws on the full tanakh, which is about a thousand years old.
Anonymous No.213820728
>>213820697
And that makes it okay to ignore it whenever you please?
Anonymous No.213820755 >>213820802
>>213820697
>christianity is when you kill niggers
Anonymous No.213820800
>>213820727
>The talmud, better known as the old testament, is a text within the tanakh.
Honestly are you trying to be stupid right now? This isn’t exactly difficult to look up
Anonymous No.213820802 >>213820821 >>213821001
>>213820755
God hates those who hate him and smiles when they perish.
Anonymous No.213820821 >>213820861
>>213820802
Spoken like a Jew.
Anonymous No.213820856
>>213820448
>"you should reconsider the fact that you believe in jewish mythology"
>only a JEW would criticize jewish mythology! i will continue to believe in jewish mythology to spite you, JEW!!!
>save me jew adam, jew abraham, jew moses!
>save me jeshua, the circumcised son of the jewish weather spirit yahweh!
>save me saul, sorry i mean paul, a literal jewish merchant that fell off a donkey and invented the lucrative business of selling yahweh worship to the goyim!!!!
hopeless and doomed
Anonymous No.213820861
>>213820821
>meaningless deflecting answer
Anonymous No.213820894
>>213817178
yep
Anonymous No.213820953 >>213821041 >>213821804
>>213814356 (OP)
Why are Jews not brave enough to make fun of Islam for once?
Anonymous No.213820959 >>213821230
>>213820136
Ah yeah, Mark, another truthworthy fella
Anonymous No.213820975
>>213814583
>Like fair enough if you believe in a creator and the words of Jesus
The words of Jesus were that he is the son of God and through him we may have eternal life
Anonymous No.213821001
>>213820802
False. God wills for every soul to repent and be with Him. God would not see the sinner die.
Anonymous No.213821041 >>213821235
>>213820953
Imagine having such a persecution complex that you think a joke about a Christian is worse than the genocide of Muslims.
Anonymous No.213821067 >>213821152 >>213821282 >>213829428 >>213829463
>>213816829
Then why is it all the people who don't have a nuclear family who seem like miserable dysfunctional freaks?
Anonymous No.213821087 >>213821504
>>213820182
christians being too stupid to realize that they're nothing more than golems being exploited would be the funniest thing if it wasn't destroying human>>213820186
civilization.
Anonymous No.213821152 >>213821249
>>213821067
Because you're projecting your own lonely miserable experience onto others.
Anonymous No.213821156
>>213817178
this hasn't been true in the west for a long time. there's a giant postmodern grab-bag of cultural notions of what you should strive to be, and there are some christian ideals in there, but they are in no way dominant, and even when they are invoked it's rarely honest. a random person walking down the street today is a kind of pagan. his ideas of who is and isn't "a good guy" are pagan and tribalistic. he worships aspirational instagram influencers and thinks the people who vote for the wrong party aren't human.
Anonymous No.213821209 >>213821500
>>213817959
Why is agnostic atheist 2nd? I'd put it first. But I might be biased since that's what I am, so curious to hear why you'd put agnostic theist first.
Anonymous No.213821230 >>213821675
>>213820959
>truthworthy
SAAR
Anonymous No.213821235 >>213821248
>>213821041
The Muslims want genocide.
Anonymous No.213821248
>>213821235
So do you.
Anonymous No.213821249 >>213821276
>>213821152
Projecting, the redditor faggot's "no u"
Anonymous No.213821266
>>213814356 (OP)
I mean, yeah. They are.
Anonymous No.213821276 >>213821403
>>213821249
>I've been found out! Better call him a redditor
Anonymous No.213821282 >>213821441
>>213821067
because the same people that sold you that miserable wageslave lifestyle also told everyone it's "dysfunctional" to not participate. that's how propaganda works dummy
Anonymous No.213821394
>>213818036
Bible stupid
Christians stupid
Anonymous No.213821395 >>213822097
Jesus is cool and all, but how can anyone truly believe the Bible or the Torah or whatever is the word of God? We know for a fact that most of the Old Testament stuff is just old Babylonian myths refurbished
Anonymous No.213821403 >>213821524
>>213821276
Found out what, I have a happy fulfilled life you screaming faggot redditor, now go take your SSRIs and cruise Grindr
Anonymous No.213821441 >>213821692
>>213821282
Is is propaganda to shower and change clothes every day? Because you tranny freaks fail at that.
Anonymous No.213821500 >>213821883
>>213821209
Because while you both recognize that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, agnostic atheists don't commit. It's cowardly behavior for those stupid enough to not have certainty in their uncertainty. Inversely, this is also why atheists are ranked lower than theists, overcommitment when their own belief system logically tells them they can't be certain.
Anonymous No.213821504 >>213821574
>>213821087
>Worships a literal Satanic tranny in Hitler
But Christians are the stupid one, right?
Anonymous No.213821524
>>213821403
If that were true you wouldn't be such a whiny seething faggot.
Anonymous No.213821574
>>213821504
Yes
Anonymous No.213821675
>>213821230
I accept your consession
Anonymous No.213821692
>>213821441
well, you only do it because mr shekelstein demands all his slaves be presentable while they devote their entire lifetimes to enriching him, so yeah, in your case it is the result of propaganda that you shower.
Anonymous No.213821760 >>213821823 >>213821832 >>213822178
>christians are le stupid
Yet every academic pov since the Greek homos has been in favor of pedophilia, abortion, transsexuals, or sexual degeneracy.
Anonymous No.213821804
>>213820953
This is such a baffling “gotcha”. As though Jews are afraid of making fun of muzzies but somehow not afraid of blasting missiles up their ass 24/7. It’s more like Jews perspective of Christians is that they that can handle banter, while Muslims are beneath a point of respect of even treating as humans. It’d be like bantering a chimpanzee, there is no joy in making jokes about somebody that can’t understand it.
Anonymous No.213821823 >>213821891
>>213821760
>jewish mythology is real or else the libtards win
Yeah, we know this is the larp you're engaging in. Protip: transgenderism is only validated through metaphysics. It falls apart under hard materialistic scrutiny.
Anonymous No.213821832 >>213821848 >>213821891 >>213823010
>>213821760
>NOOOOO YOURE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A CUTE FEMBOY FUCKSLAVE
Anonymous No.213821848
>>213821832
Not gon' hold you, bro, you gay af.
Anonymous No.213821883 >>213822007
>>213821500
Agnostic atheists don't commit to what? What's there to commit to? We are working with the same definition of agnostic atheist, right? Someone who is atheistic in practice but still leaves room for the possibility of there existing such a thing as 'god'? What does it mean here to have certainty in their uncertainty and why lack of it is cowardly?
Anonymous No.213821891 >>213821958
>>213821823
>>213821832
>libtards
Imagine viewing the whole world and history through the fox news mentality.
Ngmi
Anonymous No.213821958 >>213821988
>>213821891
Nigger, I'm speaking to a faggot who thinks christianity is defined by butt sex.
Anonymous No.213821988
>>213821958
Why y'all always thinking about anal sex with men? That shit is baffling.
Anonymous No.213822007 >>213822188
>>213821883
>Someone who is atheistic in practice but still leaves room for the possibility of there existing such a thing as 'god'
You answered your own question. If you leave room for the possibility of a god, you're not an agnostic atheist. You're an agnostic theist, but are either too dumb to see it or too cowardly to admit it. That is why agnostic theists are above you: there are no agnostic atheists and those that claim to be are dumber than agnostic theists by default.
Anonymous No.213822047 >>213822070
>the gospels were written 30 years after christ so not true eye witness account
So if you ask your father about his own wedding his recollection is false? 30 years is nothing.
Anonymous No.213822070
>>213822047
>So if you ask your father about his own wedding his recollection is false?
Yes.
Anonymous No.213822097
>>213821395
What reason do you have to believe that Jesus is cool?
Anonymous No.213822148
>>213818627
Thank you, I thought I was going nuts. It's all so transparently performative.
Anonymous No.213822178
>>213821760
The Greeks might have been okay with fucking femboys, but it wasn’t like they remotely respected femboys themselves. It was still a patriarchal society where trooning out was basically a humiliation ritual that puts one on the same level as foids, and lesser than men.
Anonymous No.213822188 >>213822404
>>213822007
So if I'm getting it right, it's stupid in your estimation for a person to make the distinction between definitive knowledge of the existence of god and the possibility that god might exist? Can you explain why that is? And it's only cowardly if the person deep down believes there actually IS a god. If the person doesn't know (which no one does, which is what agnostic atheist means), then there is no cowardice there.
Anonymous No.213822404 >>213822900
>>213822188
>it's stupid in your estimation for a person to make the distinction between definitive knowledge of the existence of god and the possibility that god might exist
No. It is stupid, 'in my estimation', for those who claim to be certain in their uncertainty to 'leave room' for certainty. Alter the circumstances a little bit. You are certainly uncertain as to whether or not life exists outside of our solar system, whether you believe life may or may not exist is irrelevant but by leaving room for the potential existence of extra-solar life you are tacitly not against its possibility. By default, you can either be a pure agnostic, or an agnostic theist, but to be an agnostic atheist is logically inconsistent and therefore stupidity.

>If the person doesn't know (which no one does, which is what agnostic atheist means), then there is no cowardice there.
Incorrect, an agnostic atheist, doesn't know but leans towards gods not existing and 'leaves the door open'. That was your definition. By leaving the door open, it's the act of being non-committal to being non-committal. Your non-committance to non-committance is either an act of cowardice (because you ARE theistic, but don't want to admit it), or an act of stupidity because you can't stay logically consistent. There's no third way out.
Anonymous No.213822430
Christianity has a lot of influence in ancient European thought and also medieval.
The problem is American culture and protestantism has created a pseudo Christianity that has become anti intellectual.
Anonymous No.213822458
>>213818307
Everyone in the town is fucked, it's subversive and pretending it's not is incredibly disingenuous.
Anonymous No.213822505 >>213822538 >>213824158
>>213814583
Then proove that God doesn' t exist.

You silent? Yeah, thought so.
Anonymous No.213822538
>>213822505
What does The Creator have to do with Christianity, bud? That's like saying "Prove Brahma doesn't exist" as if he's the personification of The Creator.
Anonymous No.213822900 >>213823250
>>213822404
We're working with different definitions for all these terms it seems, and/or you are getting too hung up in semantics to understand the actual underlying belief. Which if correct, is the only thing stupid here.

So putting aside these specific terms and labels, my position is that at the present moment I don't see any evidence for the existence of god and therefore I live in accordance with that, meaning that there is likely no such thing as god. But I don't know for certain, therefore I concede that god might exist. It doesn't mean that I'm conceding that god DOES exist, it means that it COULD, and it also could NOT. It's just that there is no strong enough reasoning or evidence for either that I've come across. So what is the term for this? Agnosticism? The only two choices given in the original post I replied to only mentioned agnostic theist and agnostic atheist, so I chose the one that most closely represented what I thought. I looked up the definition for both. According to wikipedia: 'An agnostic theist is someone who believes in the existence of one or more gods but considers the basis for this belief to be unknown or unknowable'. So going by this definition, I don't believe in any god, therefore I'm not agnostic theist. For the definition for the other term, according to wikipedia - 'An agnostic atheist is someone who does not believe in the existence of any deity (atheism) but also claims that the existence of a divine entity is either unknowable or currently unknown (agnosticism)'. This does match up to my position.

Agnostic atheist, as oxymoronic that term might be, does more closely represent the actual underlying position I hold.
Anonymous No.213823010 >>213823124
>>213821832
Normal people don't get upset when told gay anal sex is le bad and they don't even need God to tell them that either.

You're legit mentally ill if you want to stick your dick in another man's asshole. Just the fact that you even want to do it in the first place says a lot. Then getting mad that God says it's le bad is a whole other level. Like even if I somehow desired to fuck a male ass or have mine fucked I would still know it was a fucked up fetish just like the actual fetishes I have that I know are degen. If God told me my fetish was bad I'd be like "Yeah I know." You have to be a total fucking deranged idiot to get mad about it. It's like an obese fuck getting mad when people tell him he shouldn't eat so much.
Anonymous No.213823096
>>213814356 (OP)
protestants are insane shizos and the larp society they created cant exist in a modern environment.
Anonymous No.213823124 >>213824302
>>213823010
>if you get mad at retards trying to act like the moral police and dictate what you are and not allowed to do, even if you're causing no harm, then you're mentally ill. You should shut up and not be mad when someone is trying to exert their will upon you using faulty logic, otherwise you're cray cray.
>However, getting mad at people doing things that I find to be undesirable or gross even if there is no harm present is 100% normal, good and mentally sound behavior. Normal people definitely give a fuck if two dudes or two women are consensually getting it on in the bedroom.
Anonymous No.213823250 >>213823862 >>213824300
>>213822900
>admits his position is oxymoronic and logically inconsistent
>has the gall to claim I've erred in my estimation
The issue at hand is not whether or not you believe a deity exists and I've never claimed otherwise. In fact, in my example of extra-terrestrials, I pointed out that it's completely irrelevant. The issue at hand is the inconsistency of applied logic to reach your conclusions. You claim lack of knowledge based upon the idea that absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence, but use lack of evidence to support your lack of belief and hedge your bets with mights and maybes. It's logically inconsistent and why you're ranked lower than agnostic theists who hold logically consistent beliefs.
Anonymous No.213823570 >>213823633
>>213814356 (OP)
It was Rick and Morty before Rick and Morty
>wow, all religious people are stupid, that's such smart commentary
>haha a seemingly-innocent episode premise has become edgy, that's so fucking funny lol
>woah dude they're depicting realistic psychological breakdowns in a cartoon, this show is so deep
This shit and Futurama were Redditcore well before Rick and Morty, but people are too blinded by nostalgia to give them the same level of criticism
Anonymous No.213823633
>>213823570
Moral Orel is closer to Bojack Horseman than it is to Rick and Morty
Anonymous No.213823862 >>213824300 >>213824448
>>213823250
It seems to me that you're getting hung up on terms, I'm not able to make sense of what you're trying to say otherwise. I admitted to understanding your point of view, which I understand is you finding the term 'agnostic atheist' oxymoronic. I never admitted to the underlying position being oxymoronic in the same way that the specific term is, and I don't think it is.

I really don't understand what you're getting at here or what is logically inconsistent with my position. I find it likely that god doesn't exist, but I don't know everything, therefore I leave room for the possibility that I might be wrong. What specifically about this is logically wrong or inconsistent?

>You claim lack of knowledge based upon the idea that absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence, but use lack of evidence to support your lack of belief and hedge your bets with mights and maybes
If I don't see evidence for something, then I can draw based on that that it likely doesn't exist. According to you, is the logical position from here to hold simultaneously both beliefs that something does and doesn't exist? Or to think that it most likely does exist despite there being no strong evidence for it and relegate the possibility of it not existing to the realm of 'maybe'?
Anonymous No.213824132
>>213817315
Kys jew
Anonymous No.213824158
>>213822505
Prove Allah isn't the correct interpretation of God, then. Or that the Hindu pantheon isn't real, or Shinto deities, etc. etc. etc. you don't get to make special rules for your deity/religion.
Anonymous No.213824300 >>213824448
>>213823250
Don't respond to my post here >>213823862 just yet, I think I sort of get what you're trying to say now that I think about the analogy you gave about aliens. My current belief when put in the context of that analogy would be like saying 'aliens most likely don't exist but they could'. When it comes to my actual belief on that specific topic, it's not that. We know that the universe is vast beyond comprehension and we know that life can survive in extreme environments and crop up in places we didn't think possible. Adding in other reasons to this, and our current understanding of the universe and what we refer to as life, we know that it's likely that it probably exists out there, but that there's also a possibility that it might not.

But these aren't comparable analogies. Based on our current understanding of the world, we have not yet discovered any supernatural phenomenon, if it even exists. We have no good reasons to use as a basis for believing that it could even exist, but we don't know enough to conclusively rule out it's existence. Therefore we must leave space for the possibility of it existing, but there's no reason to believe at this specific point in time that it has any likelihood of it existing. So I ask for a better analogy to demonstrate what is wrong with my beliefs, or to directly explain it without using analogies.
Anonymous No.213824302 >>213824523
>>213823124
Having fun talking with that strawman, fudgepacker? Sorry you got so mad someone told you anal sex was bad, you'd think after a billion homos died from GRIDS and anal fissures you'd figure it out but some people are just slow learners I guess.
Anonymous No.213824361 >>213825133 >>213825148
>>213814583
>wasting your life
A life without and afterlife is pointless as everything will die in the heat death of the universe.
Anonymous No.213824448
>>213823862
>>213824300
The whole problem with both of your arguments is that you use the same logic chain to arrive at different conclusions. You uses lack of evidence in the material as justification for your lack of belief in the immaterial AND your uncertainty. Either absence of evidence IS evidence of absence, which upholds your atheism, or it isn't, which upholds your agnosticism. The two positions are incongruent. Again, it isn't your lack of belief that gets you into trouble, it's the logic used to get there.
Anonymous No.213824492
>>213814583
>all the internet christlarpers seething at this post

Holy based
Anonymous No.213824523
>>213824302
Not me but kek
Anonymous No.213824992
>>213818944
>>213819477
Anonymous No.213825087 >>213828329
>>213814356 (OP)
>Bible stupid
Never happened
>Christians stupid
>Protestants
>Christian
Lmfao good one
>God stupid
Never happened

Giving internet access to third worlders has been a disaster for 4chan
>>213818627
Thank you
I hope God smites these fake christians
Anonymous No.213825133
>>213824361
I'm holding out that one day somewhere in the universe an alien species will be so advanced that they're playing on Minecraft creative mode and decide to create resurrection technology
Anonymous No.213825147
>>213814356 (OP)
Yes.
Anonymous No.213825148 >>213825309
>>213824361
>christians projecting their own nihilism
Anonymous No.213825234
>>213814356 (OP)
But the idea of higher forces influencing the Universe, influencing apes whose mutations led to the emergence of humanity, is pretty good. Another thing is that these higher beings do not have to be omnipotent and omniscient and immortal.
Anonymous No.213825281
>>213814356 (OP)
Ya see, it looks like a children's tv show, but it's actually really dark.

You wouldn't understand.
Anonymous No.213825309
>>213825148
but all atheists claim nihilism is good
Anonymous No.213825327 >>213827551 >>213828033
>>213814356 (OP)
Hated this show.
It got so dark for no real reason. There was an entire episode of just miserable people being miserable. There was no story, no arc, no beginning/middle/end, nothing. Just
>look how sad this person is for 5 minutes
I'll never get the appeal. It's like baby's first 'dark' tv show. No substance, just edge for the sake of edge.
Anonymous No.213825374
>>213814356 (OP)
I'm agnostic theist. There are some things in life that are inherently unknowable.
Anonymous No.213825775 >>213825814
>>213815240
>>213817307
>>213819662
lol
Anonymous No.213825814
>>213825775
also libowitz right below lol
Anonymous No.213827088
you can really see the hateful christkek schizophrenia on full display ITT
Anonymous No.213827144 >>213827162
>>213814356 (OP)
yes
However where are the jokes
And couldnt they hire someone other than sandy cheeks as the main voiceactor
Anonymous No.213827162
>>213827144
the joke is christianity
Anonymous No.213827467
>punish me skydaddy
do christians really?
Anonymous No.213827537 >>213827900 >>213828461
>>213819077
does anyone on here actually watch TV?

>>213820263
>but even if it's some years after the first writings available were of people that were alive when Jesus was
I thought the New Testament only began being wrote down when two of the apostles were still alive. Prior to that it was just orally transmitted

>>213815572
it's this, it specifically makes fun of WASP communities
Anonymous No.213827551 >>213827747
>>213825327
This is the most honest reason to dislike the show, and I can at least respect not liking it for this reason. It sells you on a comedy but becomes miserably uncomfortable in later seasons.
Anonymous No.213827590
I think making the whole show about christcucks is giving christcucks too much respect
it's better for a cartoon to throw a jab at them once in a while
Anonymous No.213827659
>>213817266
Nigger, literally all cultures in history had laws against hurting other people. That's how civilization works, it's not a unique Christian thing.
Anonymous No.213827703
>>213818627
Anonymous No.213827747
>>213827551
The creator said that he wanted it to be like the opposite of the Simpsons which went from being a drama to straight comedy. So it starts as a comedy and slowly becomes more serious.
Anonymous No.213827900
>>213827537
>does anyone here actually watch tv

Nope, this board is flooded by retarded shitskins that like to make up nonsense about stuff they didn't watch
Anonymous No.213827976
>>213818627
christlarpers and trannies have an equal mindset
Anonymous No.213827988
Lol OP is filtered and brown
Anonymous No.213828033
>>213825327
You know what honestly, as someone who loves the show, thats an actual valid reason to dislike it and I can respect this opinion better than OPs
Anonymous No.213828058
>>213818299
based retard
Anonymous No.213828088
>>213818627
Dilate
Anonymous No.213828093
>>213814356 (OP)
You should kill yourself for lying like a jew
Anonymous No.213828329
>>213818627
Based, it was cute at first but now it's just fucking annoying, imagine devoting your time larping as a trad-christian on an anime gooner website instead of being a real productive christian instead, it's like these faggots aren't aware that being lazy is a sin
>>213825087
>I hope God smites these fake christians

Same here anon, same here
Anonymous No.213828454 >>213829172
What is the final solution to the Christian Question?
Anonymous No.213828461
>>213827537
>does anyone here actually watch tv
Anonymous No.213828465
>>213814372
FPBP
Anonymous No.213829172
>>213828454
This is exactly the type of quote that somebody who is completely ignorant about any religion except Christianity would spout. It’s funny because it’s inadvertently demeaning of non-white societies as though white countries were uniquely nerfed by their religiousness and the world would be a utopia if only white saviors had bowed to a different deity.
Anonymous No.213829217
>>213814356 (OP)
I see nothing wrong with this premise
Anonymous No.213829268
Christians are as stupid as Muslims and Hindus. You're not being singled out. It's cult followers who are being singled out. It just so happens that in this particular country, most of them happen to be Christian.
Anonymous No.213829310 >>213829366
>>213817266
Is that what they teach you in bible school? Nobody even considered that hurting people was bad until Jesus said it?
Anonymous No.213829326
the bible was written by arabs and jews, and god knows they're lying sacks of shit.
Anonymous No.213829340 >>213829370 >>213829406 >>213829414 >>213829524 >>213829761 >>213830038
>300 posts
>not a single other person ITT has actually seen the show
Anonymous No.213829366
>>213829310
Until modern civilization, rape was the main conduit through which humanity reproduced. That was the norm. Not to play Devil's advocate, but there have been some social improvements since our caveman days. And again, I will not credit Jesus for the majority of them.
Anonymous No.213829370 >>213829422
>>213829340
it's unwatchable garbage
Anonymous No.213829371
>>213814356 (OP)
It is when you think about it. Worship is a human construct. based on emotions like fear, reverence, and love. Why would a god who has transcended human emotions want that from us?
Anonymous No.213829406
>>213829340
I did and I was actually a really big fan of The Mountain Goats for a while before binging the whole series so when they punched in those tMG songs it hit insanely hard. Don't fret, anon, people here are incapable of staying on topic.
Anonymous No.213829414
>>213829340
I've seen the show. Most of it. It's pretty good. Adult Swim has really declined since it was on.
Anonymous No.213829422 >>213829867
>>213829370
It's great, and literally not what OP describes, considering at the end Orel and the other girl get married and he's still Christian
Anonymous No.213829428
>>213821067
>Then why is it all the people who don't have a nuclear family who seem like miserable dysfunctional freaks?
Boomers were literally a generation of serial killers, rapists and traitors. lol
Anonymous No.213829463
>>213821067
I don't know a single person who has set up a nuclear family who isn't miserable.
Anonymous No.213829524
>>213829340
There's multiple posts clowning on faggot OP for lying about moral orel
Anonymous No.213829761
>>213829340
>300 posts
>fake christians still haven't brought up any evidence indicating that moral orel is an attack on christianity
Anonymous No.213829784 >>213830473
>make a thread about literally anything
>some faggot comes in saying it's satanic or has gnostic themes
So sick of these obnoxious faggots
Anonymous No.213829867 >>213829880 >>213830101 >>213830142
>>213829422
spoilers you mouth breathing chinless retard
Anonymous No.213829880 >>213830063
>>213829867
>OP lies about the show for whatever reason
>i point out how that's false
>"wtf spoilers"
/tv/ is a curious game, the only winning move is not to post
Anonymous No.213830038
>>213829340
I’ve seen parts of it, realized it’s not for me, but I’ll defend the show on principle against idiots who hate on it for presumptive assumptions about its character.
Anonymous No.213830063 >>213830082
>>213829880
THERE IS A LITERAL BUILT IN FUNCTION ON THIS WEBSITE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO BLACKBAR THE SPOILERS YOU FUCKING DROOLING APE
Anonymous No.213830082
>>213830063
>join thread about series where the entire point of OPs argument is destroyed by the ending
>surprised when there's spoilers
???
Anonymous No.213830101
>>213829867
Imagine being in a thread about a show that's older than most posters here, entering it on purpose, and getting mad about spoilers. Especially spoilers that were already posted ITT. Grow up, retard.
Anonymous No.213830142 >>213830231
>>213829867
The show ended over a decade ago you nigger. If you didn’t want spoilers, you’ve already had ample chance to watch it.
Anonymous No.213830231
>>213830142
>ample
bot detected
Anonymous No.213830398 >>213830428
>>213818231
Ethnically yes but he did technically convert to a weird divergent precursor to christianity(that he made up). By all accounts it does seem like he was saying he was god/the son of god during his lifetime. That's not just being a Jew.
Anonymous No.213830428 >>213831065
>>213830398
All religion is made up
Anonymous No.213830473
>>213829784
Anyone who so much as mentions satanic or satanism might as well be putting a huge sign on their posts saying “I AM A HUGE SUBHUMAN, PLEASE DO NOT ENGAGE WITH ME”. That has to be some South American retardation or something because there ain’t a soul that talks like that in civilized society.
Anonymous No.213831065
>>213830428
I'm not jewish I agree
Anonymous No.213831356
>>213814356 (OP)
the third season is all about him finding his own relationship to god and religion. at the end of the show he is christian and has a happy family. the problem is not really christianity, but the way that the people of moralton use christianity as a shield for their own hypocrisies and as an excuse to treat each other badly.
Anonymous No.213831660
>>213814372
Gotta be 18 to use 4chan buddy