Thread 213821247

The way Snydercels adjust for inflation is a complete meme. You love to smugly throw around “a-a-actually if you adjust MoS’s box office it’s bigger” like you’re economic geniuses, but you’re leaving out the obvious part: money from 2013 LOST value.

MoS’s $670,145,518 isn’t magically “worth more today,” it’s worth LESS. If you really want to take inflation seriously, that pile of cash has the same buying power today as $475,483,734. Over a quarter of its real value gone. This means Gunn’s Superman destroyed it. if your way of “adjusting for inflation” were correct, then everyone’s savings account would be magically growing every year without interest and inflation would be awesome. But that’s not how reality works. Your bank balance doesn’t inflate itself, it rots. Just like the Snyderverse.

>>213821247 (OP)
I think this isn't right but I'm not smart or educated enough to know why
Can some >>>/biz/ crossboarder weigh in? No dog in this fight btw, I don't really care about live action Superman besides Reeves and smallville

>>213821247 (OP)
Snyder won

>>213821366
Everyone calculates inflation and market size differently. Arguing about it is a road to nowhere. All this anon did was twist numbers until they fit his narrative. The bottom line is that WB spent over 360 milllion making this movie. That's from a verified tax credit claim filed by WB in Ohio. And this film still hasn't made 600 million at the box office.
The marketing budget is not public information. The box office take is not public information and the deals with theaters can get very convoluted. Even at WB it is going to be a while before they know just how much money this movie really made.
As of right now this movie has underperformed. If it lost money it didn't loose much. If it made money it didn't make much.
Regardless it will end it's box office run well short of Man of Steel. That's a terrible sign for the movie.
Regardless of how bad you think inflation is the fact that this film was not able to make the same amount of money as it's predecessor undoubtedly has WB concerned.

You’re kinda mixing two categories here.

When people “adjust for inflation” in box office talk, they’re not claiming WB’s 2013 cash is magically worth more today. They’re basically simulating: “If the same number of tickets were sold at today’s average ticket price, what would that total look like?” That’s why sites like Box Office Mojo and The Numbers even bother with adjusted charts—it’s about measuring audience reach, not the time value of money.

Yes, you’re totally right that if someone literally stuffed $670M under a mattress in 2013, it’d have less buying power now. But that’s personal-finance logic. Studios don’t just sit on vaults of cash, and nobody is pretending they do.

So no, inflation-adjusted grosses aren’t a meme—they’re just a tool. One is about economic value, the other is about ticket sales. Different lenses, different questions.

I'm Indian btw if that matters

>>213821247 (OP)
Zack Snyder movies are a complete meme. Nobody is actually stupid enough to like them, they're just trying to ragebait you.

bump

>>213822352
Cope

>>213822219
Anon... They haven't even broken even. HAHAHAHA. It's over. Jewperman LOST. TOTAL DIRTY STINKING SHIT BOMB.

>>213821247 (OP)
You can just admit you're too brown to understand inflation.

I bought JamesGunn ‘s Superman on digital release of course. We just watched it again and I have a theory. You know how some movies grow in stature from their theatrical release, like Shawshank Redemption and It’s a Wonderful Life?

I think Superman is going to do that. It has that rare thing, that you look forward to almost every scene, and the joy of watching it again doesn’t diminish at all. It has that feeling of, ‘oh, this scene is classic,’ over and over. It’s already made a heap of money and people love it, but I think it’s going to be that formative movie that becomes even more highly beloved with time.

More than almost any recent comic book film, I think it’s going to have legs. I like a LOT of superhero movies, I don’t rewatch that many. This one, I do.

Thoughts?

>>213821247 (OP)
Not just money is worth less. Warner Bros is also worth less.

MoS killed the DCCU, did incredible damage to both the DC brand and Warner Bros studio

DC had a good name before Snyder. TAS and animated movies, Arkham games, Nolan movies. Warner Bros studio also had a strong reputation at the time

In comparison, leading to Superman. DC has a bad name. Gotham Knights and Suicide Squad games, failed Snyderverse etc. Warner Bros has a bad reputation nowadays too.

>>213822669
It's better than any MCU movie, honestly.

>>213821247 (OP)
>If we calculate the inflation backwards Superman 2025 wins
A new day a new cope

>>213822669
>It has that feeling of, ‘oh, this scene is classic,
lol what fucking movie did you watch? It was complete ass from start to finish.

>>213822754
Who needs inflation when you can have DEFLATION

>>213822821
If by "ass" you mean "ass kickingly awesome"

>>213822669
You're right, but what you described is the worst fear of every snyder-loving incel chud on the planet.

>>213822909
Good thing they're just a small minority of Twitter bots

>>213822847
lefturdtrannys can't be that stupid

>>213822847
holy shit, chuds annihilated again#

Snydermonkeys can't argue with this. Superman is a massive success.

You Gunn bros are really coping at how much you lost. Man of Steel would still win if you just compare ticket sales.

>>213823433
DC had a good name before Snyder. TAS and animated movies, Arkham games, Nolan movies. Warner Bros studio also had a strong reputation at the time

In comparison, leading to Superman. DC has a bad name. Gotham Knights and Suicide Squad games, failed Snyderverse etc. Warner Bros has a bad reputation nowadays too.

>>213823457
we got arkham games after snyder and before gunn though?

>>213823457
>DC had a good name before Snyder
This. We had Jonah Hex, Green Lantern, Catwoman, and Steel!

>>213823433
Snyder crashed the franchise

>>213823670
That's right that's why things like the first suicide squad, wonder woman, and Aquaman movies were massive failures but the reboots that abandoned snyder and his dark and edgy universe like the suicide squad, the lost kingdom, and 1984 were huge hits

>shit out 10 movies about one guy
>hire different actor everytime
>they are all dopplegangers
>do it in a span of few years
dont people get uncanny valley feeling from this

>>213821247 (OP)
Superman 2025 finishing below Man of Steel has got to be every gunnfag's worst nightmare

>>213823924
that's why they're huffing thrice as hard and making about 10 daily threads

>>213821247 (OP)
Both are shit

>>213823924
Can't you read! It did make more money because we magically took money away from Man of Steel

>>213823506
First few Arkham games were released pre-MoS

>>213823520
yeah, sure, movies released in the 20th fuckign century were remembered when MoS was released more than Batman and Superman TAS, and other WB movies, retard.

>>213822669
Get a load of this nigga renting a movie for 30 dollars

>>213822712
I'll never pay to pay a DC film ever again

>>213822908
>bunch of guys stand around and do nothing while they get tossed by mister nigger
Bravo! I can't tell if you're ironically blowing smoke or if you're seriously retarded, but it doesn't really matter. Both possibilities are effectively the same.

>m*n of s*eel jobbed to fucking aquaman of all things
snydersissies...

This is stupid as shit. Money generated in 2013 has forward investment value. It allows you to invest in bonds or stocks or new projects or crypto or whatever. You completely misunderstand what inflation is to make some dumb point about some dumb comic book movies. One of the stupidest posts I've seen on this shit board.

>>213823520
desu garbage like Batman & Robin and Catwoman is why batman begins was so meh at box office, so youre onto something anon.... just wrong because youre dumb

>>213824314
Says the dipshit who doesn't know how to use a fucking apostrophe. And Batman Begins for as low as its box office score was still managed to beat Batman and Robin which was an actual movie that damaged the DC brand not some pathetic DCuck cope

>>213824397
How did Batman & Robin damage the DC brand? Didn't 2 of the Nolan movies make $1b? Let's see any Star Wars make $2b again, now that's brand damage

>>213822712
No it didn't. Batman had a good brand image, DC was the brand that gave you turds like Green Lantern and Superman Returns before MoS

>>213824504
>How did Batman & Robin damage the DC brand?
DC didn't make another film for seven years because it was that bad. Plus they released Steel around the same time. 1997 was wild. My poor dad.

>>213821247 (OP)
This pedo got its mind broken kek

>>213824671
Catwoman is part of Batman familia and Batman is part of DC.

>>213824731
Never has been, even to this day Batman remains separate from the gunnverse

>>213824776
>brainlet just doesn't get it

>>213824676
It was canceled because of a leadership change at WB, a B&R sequel directed by Shumacher was being worked on

>>213824813
Aye, they decided they'd be better off eating glass.

>murderman
gunn superman (faggotman) has a way higher body count

how many of those jetpack troopers alone did he kill? dozens?

>>213822352
>Nobody is actually stupid enough to like them
bloody bish bastid i rape you next week ok

>>213824813
No. They were going to Batman vs Superman but was shelved for Batman Begins and attempt to reboot Superman with Returns.

>>213824862
None because you can suspend your disbelief, retard

>>213821247 (OP)
Nice try. Here are all the numbers in today's money:

Man of steel
>Budget: $311,160,293.84
>Box office: $926,704,501.79
>Profit: $615,544,207.95

Superman
>Budget: $225,000,000
>Box office: $594,600,000
>Profit: $369,600,000

>still hasn't reached 600 million
>393 million production budget
>God knows how much the marketing budget was
>at most 60% of the domestic box office
>at most 40% of the international box office
WB is still over 50 million away from making back their production budget for this movie in the best case scenario

>>213821247 (OP)
>Preaches a message of compassion and kindness in a world full of despair and is still actually interesting.
>Saves both of their respective franchises
>Both reach top ten earning of this year
>Makes /tv/tards, synderfags, and just retards in general seethe to the point were up to around 30 or so threads
>Leaves
How did they do it?

>>213825122
Forgot pic rel

>Muh box office

It’s getting a sequel with a release date for July 27. It’s over. Better start hanging yourselves

>>213825092
Suspend my disbelief about what? Was I supposed to think that them falling out of the sky from skyscraper height after getting pummeled or laser blasted by an alien godlike being wouldn't kill them?

Don't ever speak to me again, you're too stupid.

>>213825225
They were shown moving afterward, so. i don't know man.

I think accounting for 1) the aforementioned decline in total box office market in 2025 vs 2013 and 2) that MoS came out during peak capeshit popularity vs. Superman 2025 coming out during the absolute apex of capeshit FATIGUE, we can safely assume both films earned roughly equal profit.

Of course ranking them on which is a better Superman movie 2025 clearly wins by leaps and bounds. MoS is utter shit in that regard, BUT if they just rebranded the movie as Murderman, and made it standalone, it's OK.

>>213825260
Twitching as they died. Do you think Ultraman was moving after getting crushed by a black hole?

So fucking dumb. You shouldn't be able to post online. There should be a test that you have at least the requisite intelligence to not make a fool of yourself every time you post.

>>213825357
>Headcanon
>Implying he isn't going to become actual Ultraman or Bizzarro
I think you just want the movie to be something it's not. And you don't need to insult my intelligence to get your point across, anon.

>>213825357
Just say you don’t know shit about Superman. It’s obvious to anyone that Ultraman is coming out of the void aka Bizarro World as Bizarro

>>213825416
>>213825417
You don't come out of black holes you dumb faggots. That's literally, definitionally, what a black hole is. Pick up a a book once in your entire retarded lives. Actually, don't, just kill yourselves instead.

>>213825468
>Superman states that if they fall in they'll never escape
That specific black hole doesn't kill people, at the very least not metahumans. I think you just lack wimsy

>>213825542
>if you're whimsical enough, he didn't kill any of the many people he obviously killed in this movie
ok so you're admitting you're just a dumb faggot

>>213825468
Are seriously trying to apply realism to Superman? I blame Nolan and muh realism for this kind kind of idiocy

>>213824504
robin hasn't appeared in a dc film for 30 years because they figured he was box office poison. the nolan films still had to wait 10 years and be a complete tonal shift from what came before in order to have success.

>>213824862
>thousands of innocent people hiding in 7/11s and apartment buildings
>12 iron man soldiers
yeah, that's about double I'd say

>>213825581
>>213825417
If this was meant to be Bizarro, Gunn would name it Bizarro. This isn't some Bizarro origin story. They wouldn't reuse the same enemy several times.

>>213821247 (OP)
Man of Steel won

Reminder that according to Zack Snyder Man of Steel made more money through physical media and VOD than it did theatrically.
And that merchandizing based on Man of Steel is still outselling everything produced based on the new Superman movie.

Recently, an Alfred doll based on BvS outsold the new Krypto merchandizing.

>>213825770
Says who? Setting up future villains is a standard thing in capeshit. Ultraman being Superman’s idiot clone gets sent into some void it’s obvious he will end up at some point as Bizarro, villain Gunn would love

>>213825877
And then what? Bizarro will come back as... an idiot clone? Again? For a second time?

Bizarro was Ultraman, and that was it. They used him. He won't come back.

>>213825849
I think on one of the websites like the numbers Man of Steel outsold Iron Man 3 in terms of physical media.

>>213825908
We have no idea. Maybe Braniac will recruit him

>>213821247 (OP)
Lego defiantly left money on the table by not making new Superman sets for this year, choosing instead to make a Batmobile set based on the mediocre Batman Forever. Seriously, Lego is batshit insane (pun intended).

>>213826095
He's dead, bro. They will use other villains. That was it for the idea of a Superman's dumb clone.

I'm not bothered which did better, I just want Supergunn 2 to be an improvement over the first one since it didn't leave much of an impression. I liked the Snyder trilogy and wanted to see a follow up to ZSJL. It was disappointing to learn that there wouldn't be more at the time, but I thought it ended on a satisfying enough note and I can revisit the boxset whenever.

>>213826098
I wish I liked the Schumacher Batmobiles more than I do. I've got the Burtonmobile, Batplane, Tumbler and Patmobile.

>>213823457
correct
a film with batman, superman, and wonder woman front and center in the marketing couldn't crack a billion because snyder tainted the brand so badly
gunn was tasked with literally rebuilding the brand from scratch; the only question is if a 600m ceiling is the new normal

>>213826119
Guys... why is this happening? IT'S BOMBING ON DIGITAL

>>213821247 (OP)
>my dogshit is better than your dogshit
you're all dumb niggers.
capeshit needs it's own board. This has nothing to do with movies or television