Thread 213823837

Genuinely, what do people possibly see in this movie for those that claim it’s QT’s best? It’s not bad, but it’s pretty unremarkable in such a way that it seems odd for anybody to feel strongly opinionated about it.

>I just ain't climbing in no goddamn, dirty-ass trunk, man. I got a problem with small spaces
>I'll take you to Roscoe's Chicken 'N Waffles on me afterwards
>.....Exactly how long I gotta be inside?

>>213823837 (OP)
Jackie Brown herself is Tarantino's weakest protagonist so I've never understood why so many claim this is his strongest film. I can't even remember how this film ends and I've seen it twice.

>>213823837 (OP)
because it's the one Tarantino film that comes off as being written by an adult (Elmore Leonard) instead of an edgy teenager

No shitty gimmicks. Same reason Insomnia is Nolan's best.

screwdrivers suck, but you sure do drink a few when watching

>>213823837 (OP)
it's his worst and most forgettable movie, so contrarians on teevee like to pretend it's their favorite

>>213823960
Death Proof is easily the worst because it spends 45 minutes building up kurt russell then 45 minutes of girlbrains

It's just contrarianism. It's Tarantino's least popular and memorable film so midwits say it's the best one to seem sophisticated.

>>213823837 (OP)
Interesting but realistic characters and relationships, with characteristically 90s Tarantino dialogue, as opposed to the cartoon characters Tarantulino wrote in his later flicks. No cartoon violence either.

It's a shame he didn't make 2-3 more films this good instead of le Western set in WWII Europe and fucking dentist and black guy kill slaveowners by Warner Brothers cartoon department.

>>213823978
yeah but the last 25 minutes may be the best car chase scene in cinema history, so it has that

>>213823837 (OP)
It is the closest thing Tarantino came to make an actual movie instead of a quip fest full of references to better movies, sure it is still Tarantino trying to do blaxploitation but at least it's not only that.

>>213823960
>>213824001
88% critic and 85% audience scores BTFO of your posts. Also "contrarian" is a reddit term for stupid people who can't make arguments in defense of things like capeshit and Tarantino's 2000s slop.

>>213824010
>the best car chase scene in cinema history
It's basically the only good part of DP, and it is genuinely good, but the chase in French Connection and To Live and Die in LA mog it. I haven't seen Bullit though.

>>213823935
Same. All I remember when I watched it is that it was just good enough to keep watching, but none of the actual details. Which among Tarantino films especially should be an indictment because most of his films are typically pretty adept at having some scene or another that infects me with permanent brain worms.

>>213823837 (OP)
>Has an actual plot and even better yet one that suits his style
>At the same time his style isn't overbearing and ridiculous as it is in Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill
>Jackie and Max's relationship is a rare look at a new romance between two older people, particularly two that are washed up and even "ugly' by Hollywood standards
>Is a hangout film, something Tarantino talks about but has never delivered on since Death Proof and OUATIH suck
>Sam Jackson gives an iconic performance as one of the most realistic criminals ever portrayed
Besides all of that it's the same reasons anyone likes a Tarantino flick except this time he actually manages to perform, it's like when a Stephen King book is good.

>>213825257
>>Jackie and Max's relationship is a rare look at a new romance between two older people, particularly two that are washed up and even "ugly' by Hollywood standards
>>Is a hangout film, something Tarantino talks about but has never delivered on since Death Proof and OUATIH suck
>>Sam Jackson gives an iconic performance as one of the most realistic criminals ever portrayed
>Besides all of that it's the same reasons anyone likes a Tarantino flick except this time he actually manages to perform
Excellent, well-stated points, anon. Jackie and Max's relationship is genuinely touching, surprising for Tarantula to have written. I have never been able to understand the appeal of OUATIH either.

>>213823955
>Same reason Insomnia is Nolan's best.
Not his film tho, with Jackie Brown is the other way around, despite being an adaptation of a book it is the only original Tarantino film

>>213825456
>surprising for Tarantula to have written
To be fair the concept of that relationship was written by Elmore Leonard who kinda sucks but when he's great, he's great. His other novel, Swag, had two of the best written relationships I've ever seen, one platonic and one romantic.

>>213824010
>yeah but the last 25 minutes may be the best car chase scene in cinema history
If you are retarded and haven't seen anything made before 2000. Even chinamen in the 80's mugged it

No one thinks it's perfect, we just dislike his other shit so even the one pretty good movie stands out.

>>213823837 (OP)
It has some wonderful scenes. Basically anything involving Samuel L. Jackson and/or De Niro. I don't really remember most of the otehr stuff.

>>213823837 (OP)
It's the Tarantino movie that people who don't like Tarantino movies like.
He's said himself that half the reason he made it was to prove to everyone he could make a movie like it. His other, cartoonish stuff is the way it is because he it wants it to be like that.

>>213823944
>>213824009
These anons get it. One of my favorite aspects of the film is that it's so immersive: there's realistic texture everywhere without it feeling gritty or stylized.

>>213825257
>>213825456
... uh bro jackie was lying to and manipulating max the entire movie. she knew he wouldn't go with her and she didn't want him to. the entire point was to get out from under her criminal history and become completely independent. across 110th street isn't just a random song chosen for the start and finish of the movie.

>>213826050
this. because all women are lying whores.

>>213825900
>he wants it to be like that
A collection of scenes, music and characters from other movies?

>>213826288
Yes, stupid.

it's lowkey and comfy and has a sexy black lady
it needed more sex appeal though. perhaps a nude scene, plapping, or her in lingerie
I wouldn't say it's the best but it's refreshing compared to over the top meme violence / dialogue tarantino movies

>>213823935
That's exactly why it's an interesting story, it's not badass hitmen or special forces or elite assassins, it's a scenario that could actually happen. A Batman movie with minimal cg vs Avengers Endgame

>>213823837 (OP)
It doesn't have any iconic or memorable scenes which is pretty unusual for a Tarantino movie. I'm pretty sure I've only watched it once, it might be the only Tarantino movie I've only seen once.

>>213826552
* it's also why OUATIH is more interesting than tarantula's usual movies

>>213826416
This might be Pam Griers best performance. She absolutely nails it.

>>213824350
>88% critic and 85% audience scores
Imagine using Rotten Tomatoes as your argument.
Fucking pleb.

>>213823837 (OP)
A tight, gritty story that builds perfectly and a strong cast that aren't like cartoon characters

>>213824001
I am someone who genuinely thinks it's his best alongside pulp fiction. First, deniros weirdly detached character I think is awesome and interesting. the main black girl and the bond salesman guy are also both radiant and interesting. Pam grier is the rare independent female char I can enjoy. The white girl was fucking hot.

>>213823837 (OP)
you'll get it when you're older and less attached to quips

>>213824218
>It is the closest thing Tarantino came to make an actual movie instead of a quip fest full of references to better movies
Brother, if you think QT’s movies are a quipfest, I seriously question whether you even know what a quip is. This is an absurd criticism to direct at somebody who is particularly known for having characters engage in unfiltered rants and awkwardly natural conversations about random bullshit. The kind of person that hates QTs style of dialogue is exactly the kind of person that loves excessive quip writing and feels off-put by the lack of them.

>>213823837 (OP)
this is the worst non kill bill movie in his library by a long shot

>>213826695
agreed RT is gay as fuck, but if 90% of critics and thousands and thousands of viewers liked it, it's not contrarian to like it a lot.

>>213823837 (OP)
slow burn with no jumpscares = intellectual

>>213826947
>Jackie Brown and KB are Tarant's worst films!
fucking retarded plebeians all over this shithole board

>>213825900
Even in that case though, why would you like JB more than say Reservoir Dogs which was similarly devoid of Quinten’s irreverence in later movies, but just an outright better story delivered in a more entertaining way?

ACROSS 110TH STREET
PIMPS TRYIN TO CATCH A WOMAN THAT'S WEAK

>>213826552
Which would perhaps be a fair argument if you’re a black woman that feels empowered by the protagonist, but if not, it seems odd to want to watch such a mundane character.

>>213827023
If 100% of critics give it 5.5/10 then it receives 100% on RT.
It's a site designed to inflate the scores of mediocre movies.

>>213827408
It's literally designed to tell you whether something is watchable or not and it worked really well until they started to include every blogger and shill and hid the top critic ratings.

>>213827242
>a bunch of criminals botch a job and kill each other

wow great story such drama

>>213827541
It’s designed to say new good old bad

>>213827354
>you can only like a story if you’re physically identical to the main character

>>213827784
Side effect of filling the site with young female bloggers which if course might have been intended to do that but that has nothing to do with the rating system.

>>213827869
Even the day it went live, there was a massive bias for new vs old, due to how older reviews/reviewers were far more critical. But feel free to keep trying to revise history.

>>213827928
Yes truly nothing but modern trash there, specifically designed to hate them stupid old films.

Faggot retard.

>>213823915
Fpbp, OP is an ungrateful peanut headed nigga.

>>213828121
It’s nice that you felt free to keep revising history.

>>213826288
The people that made movies during the golden age didn't grow up watching movies/tv. They lived lives and saw theater. Everything they experienced was something they actually lived. Everyone working in dreidelwood today did not live lives they watched movies/tv. Most of what they experienced was not real. This is all they have to draw from to make new art. That's why everything sucks. However bad you think things are, it's worse than that.

>>213828121
NTA, but the flaw of the rating system is clearly evident here. Toy Story 2 is simply an okay movie, not even better than the first entry, but because more critics have reviewed it, but none feel it’s honest to declare it’s outright garbage, its reputation is wildly inflated. RT needs baseball HoF type meta voter behavior for its rating system to be effective. Basically critics/voters who have the self awareness to vote against certain players making the HoF — not because they don’t believe they deserve to be in — but because they don’t believe they deserve to be inducted on the first ballot, or because they believe they don’t deserve to be unanimously approved.

>>213828121
>posts a chart asserting Toy Story 2 is the best movie of all time to refute the assertion that RT is built to say new good old bad

oof

>>213826908
QT's dialogue is absolute garbage because all of it is nothing more than what QT thinks sounds cool. Every character he's ever written for talks exactly like QT's top gun rant in my best friend's birthday. So no, they're not exactly "quippy" but they are closely related to that type of gay shit and he's clearly never grown beyond a shitty amatuer movie he did almost 40 years ago. Whedon and Tarantula's dialgoue are in the exact same vein of shit and you're not any better than a marvel fan for lapping it so stop sucking your own dick

>>213829138
You’re brown though

>>213829138
it wasn't amateur, he made money, it was professional

>>213829138
You say that, but characters who try to act too cool in his films regularly get their shit fucked. It’s practically a consistent theme that nobody is invulnerable and talking fancy isn’t gonna save you from stray bullets.

>>213827242
Low budget didn't allow RD to reach its full potential

>>213823837 (OP)
It's just so comfy and chill, the fact that it is fairly low stakes (For Tarantino anyway) makes it all the more comfy to watch. The big heist is just some bag exchange at a mall that you could very easily imagine yourself pulling off

Robert Forester is amazing and lovable as hell. I love it for the vibes.

>>213831383
He had that "old guy with nothing to lose" vibe that I love so much but isn't really done anymore. Also revolvers are based.

>>213831383
This motherfucker is as crooked as a barrel of snakes!

>>213831383
>fairly low stakes

The fact the “low stakes” contrast with the fact Jackie’s already shit life is about to be torn down even further because her association with ordell and some atf shithead who’d forget about her a week after she was either in prison or free.

>>213823837 (OP)
I'm pretty sure I saw DeNiros cock flop out of Bridgets cooter and I am seriously pissed off about that.