Thread 213827107

About to marathon this documentary.
What am I in for?

genocide
rape
and

we as humans have the power to stop it

>>213827270
I wasn't gonna eat a burger today but after seeing this post I will have TWO

>>213827395
>I wasn't gonna eat a burger today but after seeing this post I will have TWO
This is not my problem.

Damn the shit they're doing to the pigs is insanely evil and fucked up. What would be the moral justification for not punishing people who engage in this?

>>213827444
Pork is tasty.

>>213827107 (OP)
Appeal to emotion

A bunch of rich people tut-tut about immoral practices and tell you the prole that you need to have a markedly lower quality of life because they said so

>>213827555
>>213827505
>>213827489
You haven't seen the movie. And you don't know what happens to the animals.

>>213827107 (OP)
Whining and pseudoscience, idk never watched it. But vegans are suicidal retards.

>>213827444
Not a moral one, but they're extremely efficient compared to what existed before. Which matters in a world of increasing need of food.
>>213827107 (OP)
I understand CAFOs and why they exist and that I benefit from it. But I am shocked at how little people will sway the idea away.
(If you're an atheist then IDC go pray to Steven Hawking or something)
>Deuteronomy 25:4
>>"Thou shalt not muzzle the ox when he treadeth out the grain."
The reason a farmer would muzzle his beast of burden like this is to prevent it from eating potential crop-yields. But God commanded Israelites to not deprive the animals from their share of God's harvest. If God sees simply muzzling a cow as repugnant, then surely CAFOs and other such treatment would be a violation of treatment towards God's creatures.
>Deut. 22:6-7
>>If you come across a bird’s nest beside the road, either in a tree or on the ground, and the mother is sitting on the young or on the eggs, do not take the mother with the young. You may take the young, but be sure to let the mother go, so that it may go well with you and you may have a long life.
Simple sustainability principle, same reason you don't shoot a pregnant deer.

You don't need to eat animals to survive, so all the harm you'll see on the video is completely unnecessary

Go vegan :)

>>213827909
>biblefag
didn't read

>>213827684
I know. I just don't care. They should have evolved opposable thumbs.

>>213827936
tldr. eat the bugs :)

>>213827973
You haven't seen the movie. Watch the movie.

Depressing documentary. It didn't make me a vegan or anything and I live in a place where I can thankfully source most of my animal products from smaller butchers and such instead of massive industrial slaughterhouses, but what is shown in Dominion is truly abhorrent
>>213827909
Good post

>>213828141
Have you observed how the smaller butchers handle the animals? You know they're subject to basically the same standards as the industrial farms - which is basically none.

>>213827424
>This is not my problem.
Those cow farts affect us all, idiot.

>>213827107 (OP)
I hate shit like this. I ain't watching it.

>>213828141
Small butchers are just as bad and cruel. You kinda have to be when you're killing animals so often so I don't blame them.

>>213828485
It's not about cow farts. It's about the systematic torture of billions of animals.
>>213828648
Are you a vegan?
>>213828696
I believe this is true.

>>213828769
>Are you a vegan?
I am, yeah. I eat the same slop almost every day.

>>213827107 (OP)
Herzog cums to this and then falls asleep watching it every night.

>>213828753
Oh shit good point! I forgot to post the link, it's available for everyone on youtube.

>>213828796
Why lie? He only watches the chicken parts

I wonder if there's anyone who has watched this and not gone vegan

>>213829194
white women probably

>>213829194
>slaughterhouse footage grosses you out
Like no one's ever seen one those before.

>>213828696
>>213828769
butchery is still essentially noble

>>213829264
Have you seen it? Have you watched the movie?
Because I haven't seen what happens in the farms before watching the movie. I didn't know how bad it was.

>>213829194
Not everyone is a 19 year old overly emotional weak man like you, anon. You've never spent any significant time out in nature which is why this gay ass documentary is so important to you.

>>213829294
I'm mostly concerned with the torture and the horrible conditions they're being kept in, rather than the killing itself.

>>213827107 (OP)
misery porn
emotional blackmail

>>213829194
me
all i can say is i live in a country where needless suffering is minimized and penalized if proven

>>213829301
There's been dozens of these cry baby movies that have come out over the decades. It's really fucking stupid.

>>213829323
Nah you don't, you're just a prissy little faggot with no life and so this is your way of being able to chastise normal people for not being gay like you

>>213829335
I take it that's a no. Why not watch it? You can see it on youtube right now.
>>213829332
What country is that?

>>213829301
>The Vampire Dairies
Pray, tell, what horrors happen on the farms before watching the movie?

>>213829369
Woah, why the hostility? I just explained what I am more concerned with.

>>213829373
Because I'm not an immature little child like you are. I just said there has been dozens of movies exactly like this from the past.

>>213829376
The same horrors that happen after watching the movie. I don't think watching the movie changes what horrors happen on the farms. Or I misunderstand your question.

>>213829399
I know the exact type of person you are, I stayed in a co-op my sophmore year of college. People like you genuinely deserve to get beat up violently. You're a bad person and your drama antics do not work on me

I hunted as a kid so Im not divorced from nature like these city slickers. Meat is absolutely essential for human health, cry about it.

>>213829438
Tell me why I am a bad person.

>>213829427
>what horrors happen on farms

>>213829325
Not an argument, lardass

>>213829452
You have absolutely no idea how nature, animals, and humans interact or work. You watched an emotionally charged one sided documentary and now you feel the need to lecture others on a subject you know fuck all about because youre a sensitive little pussy.

>>213829470
Why are you laughing? What do you find funny?

>>213829445
>Meat is absolutely essential for human health
That's not what The Science says.

>>213829445
Even plants compete over space. The final boss of post-enlightenment liberalism is right here, where the smartest animal on Earth is malnourishing itself because of how its own needs harm the food.

>>213829491
Appealing to emotion is a logical fallacy, one day when you grow up youll understand

>>213829505
Ya know its so crazy how the further we've steered from this the more obesity and heart disease kills people.

>>213829496
What don't I know? What does the documentary misrepresent? It says the torture that is filmed is the norm and happens in farms all around the world. Are pigs not put into CO2 gas chambers where they feel immense pain and burning sensations until they die? Are the pigs not kept in their own waste in very tightly confined spaces? Do the pigs not have their teeth cut off in an extremely painful way? What specifically do you think does not happen that the documentary claimed to happen?
Do enlighten me.

>>213829501
The fact that you're an immature, ignorant little child

>>213829598
What am I ignorant of? Do enlighten me please. I'd love to learn.

You will be reborn as every single last one of the living things you have consumed and live their life from beginning to end, and you will deserve it

There should be no more than 500,000,000 humans in order to maintain a balance with nature

You turn away from these atrocities either because you are scared and ashamed, or because you are a dumb animal yourself who lacks the ability to even comprehend it

>>213829584
Yeah, all of that is complete bullshit which has been cherry picked and edited since that's *not* what's actually happening.

>>213829301
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDFXlKY3Two
>did you know the animals get deaded at the deading animal factory
not surprised though considering how many whiny meat-eating faggots will come out of the woodwork to decry someone shooting a deer

>>213829610
You've watched vegan cry baby propaganda and fell for it because you're emotionally weak and likely under 25 years old

>>213829631
Dishonest response. I already said that I am not concerned with the death itself, only the torture and the horrible conditions they live in.

>>213829654
Spend 1 week and nature and watch what animals do to eachother you fucking retard

>>213829621
>its not happening because its not happening, source: its not happening

You should be kept in a tiny cage in a pool of your own excrement and have your teeth ripped out

>>213829621
It's not cherry picked or edited. There are tutorials on how to do it on youtube, and in the comments farmers thanking them for teaching them.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/G4tGLQXRIfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slf-TqJuK98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEs4OlPrhyo

>>213829671
Aw well it's a good thing I do not care what little children want and think

>>213827107 (OP)
Beef

>>213829496
>one sided
Alright then, tell us what the other side is

>>213829620
no one is impressed that you read the Wikipedia article on the Freemasons and the Georgia Guidestones

>>213829654
>only the torture and the horrible conditions they live in
did you really think there's a nice ethical way to string something up by the legs and slit its throat? even where they kill cows in the name of Allah you can't take the fear out of an animal that's getting its head cut off

>>213829669
I am in nature and I already watched documentary about what animals (humans) do to other animals on an industrial scale. Mass torture, horrible living conditions, pretty much worse than any human atrocity in history.
What now?

>>213829669
Pretty sure they're not constructing mechanized auschwitz death factories and keeping each other in cramped cages their entire lives

>>213829690
> and in the comments farmers thanking them for teaching them.
Holy fuckin shit are you 12 or 82 years old? I cannot fathom actually admitting to being influenced by youtube comments lmfao

>>213829714
they don't need to construct them, they evolved to do those things naturally. for billions and billions of years without pause

>>213829712
>what now?
Stop lying on the internet and actually do it?
>>213829714
Animals literally kill eachother for fun in the most brutal extended ways possible, all the time, every day you complete and utter fucking idiot

>>213829718
Let me get this straight, do you actually think teeth clipping and tail cutting without anaesthetic is not a regular accepted practice in farms? Because it is. The comments and the video tutorials allow you to see it for yourself more viscerally, but they are obviously not needed for my point to be true.

Problem?

>>213829760
Yeah made up propaganda isn't an issue at all. I live in Hillsdale MI around every type of animal farmer. You're making up complete bullshit and here in reality regulators make food worse

>>213827107 (OP)
Don't. If you need to see horror to be decent you are demanding it.

>>213827909
It's good to shoot pregnant deer of there's too much overpopulation, i've shot pregnant deers before

>>213829781
What specific claim is bullshit?

>>213829760
you're linking to videos that are indonesian, retard

>>213829797
>Let me get this straight, do you actually think teeth clipping and tail cutting without anaesthetic is not a regular accepted practice in farms?
This, because like I've said, I've literally grown up with pig farmer families, including the amish that still live like its 2 centuries in the past. You're making up complete bullshit because you're a little kid that watched a bullshit documentary.

>>213827107 (OP)
Refusing to eat meat is not counter culture but continue to eat your Monsato approved grain sludge, more for me

>>213829734
>>213829735
Yeah thats an extremely painful moment at the very end of their lives. If you can't tell the difference between that and being born into a lifetime of nothing but suffering you have a fundamental lack of empathy and understanding, aka you are a dumb subhuman nigger

>>213829808
omg you're right, not only am I arguing with a little kid they are a third world subhuman as well. Ew.

>>213827107 (OP)
SAAR MEAT EVIL SAAR UNNECESSARY COW SACRED EAT LENTIL BE STRONG AS INDIAN SAAR!

>>213829840
>thinks living in nature is like Bambi

>>213829808
Doesn't matter, Dominion was filmed in australian farms. Same things happen everywhere.

>>213829763
Are those cows okay?

>>213829878
>Same things happen everywhere
God I really hope you are not actually this fucking stupid

>>213827107 (OP)
You're in for some abhorrent speciesism

>>213829878
So you're saying I should stop eating meat because there is a bad farmer fucking 9,000 miles away?

>>213827973
Just like I don't care when a whiteoid gets murdered by a nig. Total cattle who never evolved with a sense of self-preservation.

>>213829840
>at the very end of their lives
kek, I bet you support MAID too you fucking canadian

>>213829858
Why are they eating clay?

>beef liver waiting for me when I get home
can't wait

>>213829936
Precisely, same exact thing I feel when a tranny kills themselves or 13,000 brown people die in a tsunami

Modern day problems like crowded teeth and malformed jaws exist because a lack of animal products in the diet

>>213829931
No, I'm saying you should probably not eat meat that was produced by means of torture and horrible living conditions.
Also I'm saying we should try to stop the mass torture of animals that is happening on an industrial scale to satisfy nonvegan consumers.

>>213829862
>can't read
Yeah I had a feeling you were a dumb nigger. What part of 'predators don't torture their prey for the entirety of their lives' don't you understand? Would you rather live a normal life and then be gruesomely killed, or be born into a torture cage shitting yourself all day for years on end and then be gruesomely killed?

>>213829931
No, I'm saying when you are ready... you won't have to.

>>213829988
Based

>>213829974
>produced by means of torture
>horrible living conditions
enjoy your $200 steak, anon. maybe grow some balls and just stop eating the ones you think are cute. if you cared about them that much you wouldn't take their head off for a hotdog

Average low test anon
>N-NO! YOU CAN'T EAT ANIMALS, THEY HAVE FEELINGS AND YOU'RE MAKING ME CRY!
Meanwhile, my average dinner

>>213829984
>be a hamster
>2 days old
>mom stressed out
>eats you and your brothers

Stop eating meat and then supplement about 20 different things just as evolution intended, thank you science

>>213829973
This, the fact that our society turned to wisdom teeth removal as a solution is insane. Our society is insane.

>>213830032
Gotcha that justifies everything then, clearly that hamsters behavior is something we should emulate. For someone who values the lives of animals so little you sure do resemble one

>>213829974
>No, I'm saying you should probably not eat meat that was produced by means of torture and horrible living conditions.
Okay, next time I'll ask if the cow died peacefully
>Also I'm saying we should try to stop the mass torture of animals that is happening on an industrial scale to satisfy nonvegan consumers.
That's my problem with you cucks, you never really do anything.
>I d-don't eat meat!
That's like me saying I'm fighting crime by not committing any. You lot would get more respect if you actually started doing something, but then again, you'd probably get shot if you tried to pull any crazy shit

>>213829984
>oh just a normal life for an animal that's outside during 100 degree heat and negative 20 windchill winters, oh life is so great and wonderful!

>>213827107 (OP)
i tried to watch this years ago but couldn't get very far
i eat meat and i also love animals. the two concepts aren't mutually exclusive. it's the cruelty i can't stand

>>213829763
Yes. I'm not getting to eat any of it.

>>213830088
i was vegetarian for a few years and haven't eaten red meat in over a decade, which is probably more of a dedicated effort than crying about some paint-by-numbers documentary. i think the torture is upsetting but the belief that you can ethically kill things en masse is insanely naive and retarded and you are retarded for getting so uppity about it

>>213830097
The meat you eat is obtained in cruel ways. By buying the meat you are paying for the cruel people to continue to torture and be cruel towards animals.

>>213830096
They've adapted to survive in the environments they live in you dumb fuck. But im sure you're right, the mechanized torture factory is such a welcome reprieve from the worries of scavenging, enduring harsh conditions and avoiding predators. We're doing them a favor really, their lives are so much more fulfilling this way

>>213830188
>The meat you eat is obtained in cruel ways
'no it isn't little man'

>>213827107 (OP)
First world problems

If you let some shitty documentary get to you, and you go vegan because you're all emotional, you're a very weak man, practically a woman. It's cool if you want to stop eating meat, but it's better if it's an informed decision, after doing actual research. And if you do go down that path, then chances are you won't become a vegan at all. Not even vegetarian.

>>213830206
Thats so weird then whats with all the yearling dead bodies frozen in place because they fell through the ice and couldn't get out? Why do some bucks get their antlers stuck during ruck season only to be eaten alive by insects?

>>213830234
Industrial farming and mass animal torture and abuse is not exclusive to the first world.

>this nigga thinks farmers get off on purposefully torturing animals for fun
Imagine being such an emotional little bitch

>>213830235
Pray tell, what research would inform one not to go vegan and to continue to support mass animal torture and abuse.

>>213829838
Its actually not about not eating meat but more about sourcing your meat from places that arent subjecting animals to hell on Earth.

>>213830265
Who said anything about getting off? They just don't give a fuck. Torturing and being extremely cruel towards animals is just part of the job for them. I'm sure when asked they say they don't enjoy it.

Daily reminder that this is the price these poor creatures pay to get your your estrogen crops

>>213830206
typing every response in a Joss Whedon snarky tone makes you sound like a massive faggot

>>213830286
understanding that chickens and fish are the dumbest creatures on earth to such a degree that they almost entirely like sentience

>>213830258
>animal torture and abuse is not exclusive to the first world.

you dont say. what he meant was that no one outside the west gives the slightest crap about animal abuse.

>>213830206
>t. never seen an animal with so many ticks stuck to it's face it couldnt see straight

>>213830352
All evidence points to chickens having consciousness and experiencing pain much like humans do. The fact that they're dumb and can't reflect on things is completely irrelevant.

>>213829692
nta but you argued with a stranger online like a child today, just so you know.

>>213830387
Really how so?

>>213830359
>no one outside the west gives the slightest crap about animal abuse.
So fucking what?

>>213830352
>understanding that chickens and fish are the dumbest creatures
I disagree. Both chickens and fish could outsmart a cow.

>>213830380
>t. has never even been around actual chickens ever in their life

>>213830304
You can thank scientists for designing that hell on earth and continuously improving it year on year you can also thank them for all the pollutants in our food and water. I agree with you, I source from local farms when I can because for one it tastes better and for another thing I know it's more nutrient dense and the omega rations are correct. Now a science cultists will tell me I'm mad, there is no difference. Because these people are sick.

Look at Joaquin's physique and that's all you need to know about his diet.

>>213830286
Animals kill and eat each other, they don't give a single fuck about "suffering", they need to eat and they eat. We're the same. We're just more efficient at it. A bear would maul you to death, and maybe rape you and then eat you. An orca would probably enjoy torturing you. Animals play the game, we're just better at it. Go live with them if you love them so much. See how that works out for you.

>>213830403
That means people in the west have major social problems many of them could only form parasocial relationships with animals.

>>213830527
Animals rape each other too, does that make it ok for humans to do?

>>213830442
You posted an image that proves farm salmon is less nutrient dense.

>>213830660
Yes

>>213830693
>I agree with you, I source from local farms when I can because for one it tastes better
>and for another thing I know it's more nutrient dense
>and the omega rations are correct
>MORE NUTRIENT DENSE
you are fucking retarded, goddamn zoomies really can't read a fucking sentence

>>213830660
Women orgasm from rape and orgasms release oxytocin floods which triggers pair bonding. So yes.

>>213830537
No it doesn't you brown retard, it means everyone outside of the west are dumb niggers

>>213830660
It's uncommon for animals to rape.

>>213827107 (OP)
It's about the evil Indians who took land away from the majestic buffalo. At least the injuns got casinos. Meanwhile all the buffalo got is being inslaved in modern day slavery by ted turner.

Don't argue with vegans. They're incapable of making arguments that aren't fellacious and their endgame is not to improve conditions for farmed animals, it's to get you to stop eating meat entirely.
You could use pyschic mind powers to painlessly kill a cow that's spent its whole life grazing in the wild and they would still call you a sadistic murderer. These people are not sane and engaging with them is going to make YOU insane.

>>213830776
still seething about the death of your race, huh

>>213830776
The only dumb people are the scrawny white vegans that won't be able to put up a fight when the brown people take over their countries.

>>213830746
Yes the image is at odds with what you’re saying.

>>213827444
nature is cruel, animals also suffer even worse things in nature

>>213830304
Just to add some more lol to the farm salmon tard, farm salmon doesn’t have to go through any of the bullshit caught salmon do, so it’s an objectively better life, which results in less protein higher fat and less overall nutrients.