Thread 213828042

One Flop After Another

Should you really bother tracking before reviews come in? Still have over a month to go.

>>213828042 (OP)

It’s an unmarketable movie. No one looking at the title or posters has any idea what it’s about. Is it a war movie? A drama? Sci-Fi?

The marketing is a confusing mess.

MICKEY 17 had the exact same problem.

Killers of the flower moon was so good. I watched it in theaters and I felt restless and uncomfortable at watching these good lady indians get systematically manipulated and exploited and gutted by their husbands

>>213828042 (OP)
I bet your ass this movie would actually be interesting if it was made by Paul W. S. Anderson

>>213828042 (OP)
>make whatever movies you want with full creative freedom
>be respected by actors, critics and cinephile circles
>lose studio money every single time you release a movie
>studios keep funding you because they see it as buying some award nominations and indie cred
Sounds like a comfy life desu

>>213828419
What do you mean? Mickey 17 it was obvious that it was a comedy sci-fi

>>213828042 (OP)
Why the fuck is this retard comparing a PTA film to a Scorsese film? Did he think Killers of the Flower Moon is a PTA movie?

>>213828640
That fucking garbage imax poster doesn’t say that moron

>>213828492
>One Alien vs Predator Battle After Another

>>213828042 (OP)
Why would anyone want to see this in theaters instead of just waiting for streaming? That’s pretty much the determining factor now

>>213828042 (OP)
tracking over a month before release is worthless

>>213828419
>>213828735
you are genuinely retarded

>>213828042 (OP)
People arnt interesting in woke slop anymore and USAID can't save the box office this time.

I do wonder why any studio decided to give Paul Thomas Anderson a 100+ million dollar budget.

He's normie repellent.

>>213829994
>woke slop
have you watched a single PTA movie before you uncultured cretin?

>>213828419

Bro, it’s obviously about some whacked out old white revolutionary hippie dude needing help from some pregnant black bitch to help find his daughter. So obviously it’s a comedy. Like The Big Lebowski, but with guns.

If you can’t get that from the title and posters, then you might be brain dead.

Look at this shot man

>Mickey 17
>$118 million

>One Battle After Another
>$130–175 million

>Wuthering Heights
>$80 million

>The Bride
>$80 million

warner just loves blowing money on artistic endeavors that won't turn a profit

>>213828640
>comedy
It was supposed to be funny?

IDK it looked like some nigged up version of Taken but instead of Liam Neeson being a bad ass it was Leo pretending to be a beaner dad.

>>213831437
Correct. Not saying it was but was supposed to

>>213828042 (OP)
There aren't enough boomers left to go out and watch something like this people younger than 50 don't want to see a convoluted story like this

I tried to make a tiny game in rpgmaker the other day and it was exhausting. I learned to appriciate video game developers. Now I am thinking about how much much harder it is to make any film really. You gotta respect these mad men. I guess when you have a dream and passion it gets easier.

>>213831454

Looks like a confusing as fuck mess. And no one thinks of Leo as being a tough guy action hero, let alone a fucking beaner one teamed up with some preform black chick (I think).

Did you see the trailer?

>>213828042 (OP)
>make wokeshit
>stop being successful
Right now the hottest trope is the aging protagonist passing the baton in style
Top Gun Maverick, F1, and to a lesser degree OUATIH
But these stupid movies about angry ethnic women are just losers
That is no more hated demographic in the world then angry ethnic women
They repel all other imaginable demographics

>>213829994
>eddington spends 2 hours shitting on wokeness

>>213831559
>revolutionary group
I saw this trailer twice already and that never came out in it. What the fuck is this movie even about? At least it seems I was right about it being a Taken plot.

>>213831559
>tough guy
>character is an evil hippy weasel

>>213831591
>he thinks eddington was shitting on wokeness and not making fun of normal people for not buying into the scamdemic
oh lord

>>213829641

Wow, you are one touchy little bitch.

Your shit movie is gonna flop, bitch, so fucking suck it.

Leo should have already retired when he won his honorary oscar 10 years ago

>>213831489
>sci-fi is a tough sell
Hail Mary Project will top $600M
Screencap this
Mickey17 crashed because it was gook flavor wokeshit about white men being talked down to by niggers and also orange man bad

>>213828419
this was the gooks (i forget his name) indictment as a director. he fucking sucks

>>213831623
COVID canonically a completely inconsequential nothing burger the entire movie

I actually would call myself a PTA fan. Whatever that means. I didn’t really care for Licorice Pizza, but the trailer and posters looked interesting enough for me to see it opening week. Same for Phantom Thread.
This movie just doesn’t look interesting at all. Visually it looks like a Coen brothers film. What gives?

>>213831669
media literacy, please. the main guy is slandered and presented as a conspiracy retard then he himself gets covid in a "see he didn't mask up and got sick" every person that was looking for the truth and not buying the mainstream narrative was presented as a lunatic or a retard or someone trying escape reality. you didn't watch the movie

>>213828042 (OP)
Leo wtf are you doing man??

>>213831732
you are the media illiterate liberal retard who doesnt get you were being shit on for your retardation and corporate cocksucking the entire time

>>213831775
you're a fool that didn't watch the movie and just saw clips on youtube

>>213828526
Isn't it kind of funny and sad that being rewarded for being good at your job is a weird thing these days?

>>213831790
literally not a single person dies or even gets hospitalized because they caught covid the entire movie

>>213831601

Trailer is confusing. He’s kissing some black chick at the beginning, then suddenly the black chick is like 30 years younger than him.

>>213828042 (OP)
>$150M-$175M.
its a 50 million dollar budget movie if we are being honest
so the budget is a lie (for tax reasons) or Hollywood is full of incompetent people

>>213831834
so then you're perfectly fine with the main guy not masking up, getting covid in a "see I told you follow the mandate chuds" way and his mom in law and wife being shown as reality denying copers because they watched youtube that dared to question the narrative and he himself being shown as a retard? oh but he didnt die to covid so it owns the libs because.... well it just does okay. got it. fucking retard lol

Obligatory "You don't produce a PTA movie because it will make money. You do it because it's your turn." post.

>>213828526
>studios keep funding you because
The REASON that PTA got such a huge budget for this film wasn't ONLY because he secured Leo as the lead role, but ALSO because his old friend from the 90s Mike de Luca is now CEO of Warner Bros. This is by far the biggest budget PTA has ever had to work with on a movie, and if this bombs catastrophically then he'll have to go back to making his lower-budget flicks like Licorice Pizza.

>>213828419
The best trailer for the film is unlisted for some reason.

>>213828905
>Why would anyone want to see this in theaters instead of just waiting for streaming?
It's the first PTA movie shot with IMAX in mind, and in VistaVision format. A movie like Weapons wasn't shot with IMAX-certified cameras, so it was an afterthought to market it for IMAX, for example.

>>213831653
he's always been like a john carpenter type, not an oscar bait guy he got buzz for parasite because it was fashionably interpreted as an eat the rich story and westoids love when non-westerns make a woke movie so they approved it

>>213831903
you have brainworms

>>213830185
>I do wonder why any studio decided to give Paul Thomas Anderson a 100+ million dollar budget.
Mike de Luca is CEO of Warner and an old friend of PTA. You can look up their credits together from the 90s.

>>213832275
>he has nothing
noted. now shut the fuck up retard

>>213831650
I guess those $20-30 million dollar paycheques for a few months "work" are just too hard to turn down. It probably costs a lot to run his yacht.

>>213831902
>its a 50 million dollar budget movie if we are being honest
Leo got paid $20 million up-front alone, plus the majority of the movie was shot in California which is a very expensive place to shoot. I remember Warner was trying to convince Todd Phillips to shoot Joker 2 in London instead of California so that they could reduce the budget instantly by something like 20%.

>>213831489
>>213831370
WB got burned so hard by Joker 1 (selling off distro rights so they didnt have to fund the whole thing, despite it making a billie later) that they now moneyhat these 'smaller' movies hoping they get the same budget to profit ratio that Joker should've brought them (had they not been so shortsighted and stupid)

WB just keeps chasing its tail with its retarded CEOs

>>213833165
WB are comically awful at calling shots. They make so many bad investments, and scorn stuff that winds up being super popular. Their approach to streaming is like that gag of Sideshow bob stepping onto a bunch of rakes one after another.

>>213832429
>this nigger got filtered by ari aster movie

>>213832688
>Leo got paid $20 million up-front alone
Based Leo taking PTA and WB to the cleaners. Dumped it all back into his yacht parties probably.

>>213828042 (OP)
>PTA doing another Pynchon adaptation
>Trailers were abysmal
It was always destined to bomb. Leo needs to pick some better roles soon or his "Green Light Anything" gold card will be removed.

>>213828419
Mickey's trailers were extremely accurate though. It just wasn't good.

>>213833342
I don't think he cares. He got his obligatory career Oscar already.

>>213831652
Hail Mary was a bad book. But it's central dynamic between Professor Redditor and the Alien can make it a hit.
But
>Amazon
>Ryan Gosling
So it will flop.

>>213828718
too long, overbudget, vanity project, starred Leo

ive never heard of it and now that i have i dont know what its about

>>213833342
cast the upcoming adaptation of Shadow Ticket

>>213833276
>absolutely no argument or justification for his retarded point of view
you didn't see the movie, plus you're retarded, plus shut up

>>213831902
People were perplexed by the 200mil budget for Killers Of The Flower Moon. The studio clarified that with streaming deals now, actors no longer ask for Salary+ cut of the profits, they get Salary+ projected cut of the total profit (theatrical and streaming). So for Killers Leo was paid 40 million up front. Nearly a quarter of the entire budget went on one actor, and all the other top billed actors have a similar deal.

That's allegedly where these budgets are ballooning. There was an AppleTV movie with Matt Damon, Casey Affleck recently that was similar. Stars and director got huge payouts because the film is ultimately aimed at streaming.

>>213833524
Oh, and they don't trust royalty systems with streaming, because of situations like Willow.

And this was also why The Toxic Avenger remake was on the shelf for years. Dinklage had it in his contract that it MUST get a theatrical release because they couldn't afford him without a gross profit sharing situation.

>>213833505
>n-nuh uh, no y-you

>>213833575
>I make points
>you offer none and ignore what I post
you're just embarrassing yourself

>>213832189
>this will sell our movie

>>213832189
yeah this post is like repellant. and who the fuck wants to watch a movie like this in imax anyway?

i think the only imax i actually was exited to see was one of the transformers movies because with the size of the screen OP was supposed to be represented "life size" on it

>>213831902
>helicopters
>live firearms
>multiple retard "tactical consultants" that actively make the movie look shittier
>filmed in multiple locations
>20 mil diva lead actor
this isnt 1972
you can just buy 30 junkyard cars for $12,000 and have them crash into eachother a public road in LA you paid to block off for $500

>>213833681
*can't just

>>213828419
>>213828042 (OP)
Idk about everyone else but I go to the theatre literally every week and they play the trailers for this EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME since the first trailer was released.

Its unitonically the most marketed movie I've ever seen going by theatre trailers

>>213833593
>permanently offended christcuck /pol/ retard thinks he made any argument

>>213833368
I only first saw footage for Mickey 17 when I saw the trailer earlier this year at the cinema, and I was immediately put off by RPatz voice. I ended up downloading the movie months later and didn't think it was as bad as the trailer made it out to be, 6/10.

>>213828640
>comedy sci-fi

>>213833727
Yeah, I think WB is hoping to make this a hit considering they've even gone to the effort of securing a Fortnite collab. I guess they're hoping to avoid another catastrophic bomb less than a year after Joker 2.

>>213828640
Only half the trailers made that clear.

Your poster makes it looks like its about AT-ST pilots

Chase Infiniti is going to be a star. Mark my words. I may be her only fan on 4chan right now.
But you will all see.

>>213828742
yeah, i’m thinking based

>>213831902
They shot like 2 minutes of this at the store I work next to and from what I heard from a friend who works there ended up paying like $800,000 between flat payment to the owner, compensating all the employees who had to take a day off, paying for insurance on the building for "alternative use", closing the road, paying extras, etc
there were like 80 people there not counting extras, literally one lady just spent all day spraying the parking lot with a big spray bottle to make it look like it had rained for continuity
not to mention all the random set pieces, fake signs for every business on the block, etc
It was kinda insane how much shit was happening for what was described as "a minor 2-3 minute sequence"

>>213833524
>$40 million
Man, I would really love to see the negotiation process behind determining that value. In fact, everything about what the fuck even happens to that $40 million sounds like it's 500x more interesting than the entirety of Killers of the Flower Moon.

>>213828042 (OP)
There's no way it's not an apocalyptic failure but the interview with Anderson and DiCaprio made me think the movie might actually be good. Seemed like the trailer isn't terribly reflective of the film.

>>213828492
lived to see the scales invert, what a time

If it can win some Oscars it will be worth it.

>>213828526
>In 30 years of filmmaking make one (1) movie that actually made money
>Not only still gets funding but increasing budgets too

Literally how

>>213834888
It's easy to see how a budget can get out of control when you're filming like that. No wonder Marvel movies shoot everything in a warehouse like pic related.

>>213835342
>Seemed like the trailer isn't terribly reflective of the film.
But why would that be the case? Don't they want to SELL the movie? Especially since it's got a relatively huge budget?

>>213828042 (OP)
Sorry, not going to theaters infested with troubled "teens"

>>213837210
It's as if PTA's old buddy from the 90s is now CEO of Warner Bros, or something.

>>213832189
I'll give him props that is one of the most repellent images I've seen in my entire life.
This nigga has a creative vision undoubtedly