Thread 213840117

What is his strongest piece of evidence?

the underwater roads

>>213840134
Which has been repeatedly proven a natural (if comparatively rare) geological formation

nobody has ever excavated the entire sahara, so he has a good chance of being right

>>213840117 (OP)
He's still nowhere near delusional as Creationism fags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alFxQsKCG2Q

>>213840286
I can understand creationism because it usually has a religious motivation. At least there's a point to it. Flat earth has some christcuck influence in parts but mostly it's just a conspiracy for the sake of being a conspiracy. That's why they have to connect it to other conspiracies because in a vacuum the earth being flat and NASA covering it up doesn't lead anywhere.

>>213840117 (OP)
The facts that COVID 19 happened so nobody trusts experts anymore means there is no public debate only one among experts attacking him

>>213840117 (OP)
What convinced me was that nobody had ever checked if the evidence for his claims wasnt hidden beneath the sahara desert. So how could anyone ever say he's wrong when they dont even want to dig up the sahara to disprove his claims?

>>213840434
His theory is humans had knowledge given to them by aliens, and forgot it all. He's hoping to find proof of older civilizations by looking in random spots, but requires tons of money and resources to do so. I.e. he's a grifter who wants money for free shit.

>>213840461
I kneel to blatantly lying

>>213840434
It's an unfalsifiable argument. You can't dig up the entire sahara because people live there, so it will never be 100% combed by archeologists so Graham can use that as an empty gotcha. Dibble reasonably explained that archeologists can use research and technology to extrapolate with good accuracy to fill in the blanks and interpret their findings.

>>213840756
big archeology has shown up to shill their made up world view again

>>213840783
Okay, but the methods by which archeologists choose excavation sites are public. Go look at the analyses and point out how the process is corrupted. You know, with actual evidence backing your claims. But that's not what Graham does. He just asserts a conspiracy, and his evidence is that people say mean things about him online. But he then fails to ask himself whether they would be acting any differently, if they genuinely thought he was a kook spreading misinformation. Or maybe he's perfectly aware that they would be acting the same in both scenarios, and he just plays into the conspiracy narratives, because he gets a bunch of tin-foil hat retards backing him up who will unquestioningly believe any conspiracy claims.

>>213840117 (OP)
The extreme reaction by archeologists

You ain't all that Graham. Your tracks are weak. Your flow is shit. Dibble heads run this board

>>213840286
Picrel. Yes, religion is bullshit. Creationism is provable via basic logic tho.

>>213840388
Educate yourself:

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40460212/#40460221

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40460212/#40460229

you can independently, physically, empirically confirm via basic observation and repeatable testable scientific methods that earth is flat, stationary and enclosed. Don’t believe me, go look for yourself:

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40435656

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40435684

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40460212/#40460254

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40442060

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40451756

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40460212/#40513170

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40641095/#40686204

>>213840117 (OP)
Gobekli Tepe and the fact that his opponents like the ones he debated on Rogan (Michael Shermer and the other skeptic, as well as dibble) are liars and redditors whose greatest argument is calling Hancock a nazi.

>>213840935
>He just asserts a conspiracy
Wrong, he does use evidence like the Piri Reis map and historical writings such as Plato's claims on Atlantis which he corroborates with geological information. Hancock's evidence is not good, but at least he is not shamelessly lying like his opponents.

>>213840117 (OP)
The absence of evidence that disproves him is the strongest evidence

>>213841932
I fucked your mom. The lack of evidence to disprove it is the strongest evidence.

>>213840117 (OP)

If he had evidence his theory would be mainstream. He calls himself a journalist and his arguments go something like this, these things look similar (like pyramids in the Americas and old world) I dont know about you but I just feel these similar structures must not be a coincidence.

>>213841958
funny cause hhis mom is so old you can fuck her and call it archaeology as well hahaha

>>213841827
This is why archaeology will always be a pseudo science that takes all the funding and fame away from geologists

>>213841958
I don't know why you think fucking a 73 year old woman isn't a self burn

>>213841958
>The lack of evidence to disprove it is the strongest evidence.
Then I guess we better revise majority of archaeological claims about civilisation

>>213842002
But you can't disprove it, which is very strong evidence, wouldn't you say?

i still don't know why "the establishement" is freaking out on the possibility, that he's right. even if, who cares? what changes? if there was a pre ice age civilization that managed to share their culture and knowledge with lesser developed people around the world after the flood - something we now know was most likely a real event since it has non bible sources as well - it changes nothing about mankind other than "huh! pretty cool, we're around longer than we thought!". woudln't be so hard to admit they might have been wrong, wouldn't be the first time tho.

>>213841222
waste of trips. just tell me who would benefit from lying to the whole world about the "true shape of the earth"?

>>213842029
>i still don't know why "the establishement" is freaking out on the possibility, that he's right.
Are you autistic? That's not even their stated position. They're freaking out because he's spreading misinformation and unfounded conspiracy theories. Even if you assume that they are lying about it and they are all conspiring, then they would do so to gatekeep archeology regardless of the veracity of Hancock's claims. So this idea that they're "freaking out on the possibility, that he's right" isn't true in either scenario.

>>213842020
that's a really stupid and, frankly, desperate example.

>>213842094
cool it with the antisemetism you fucking chud

>>213842094
Why? Because I proved I fucked your mom using your reasoning?

>>213842029
>i still don't know why "the establishement" is freaking out on the possibility, that he's right.

Because sciences like anthropology have political implications. If there were a teacher civilization like he claims that would detract from the autonomy and accomplishments particularly of non-white civilizations. Its kind of the like the racist woke slur of "white privilege" which means to imply any accomplishments of white people were easier for them so they dont really deserve credit.

>>213840117 (OP)
>young
>dry
>ass

>>213841990
The Picts spoke Gaelic and all Scottish people are Picts. That isn't mainstream.

Be humble.

>>213842089
hancock is like "look, you find this and that and don't know what to do with it. this other guy found this and that and if you combine it, you get a patter. now, the next guy found this and that and it fits even better. should we look deeper into it and maybe compare it to ancient texts?" and then they just go "fuck you, it's coincidence, you're now banned for life entering this place." - if astrophysicists would work like this we would still think venus has a tropical jungle environment.

>>213842111
i can call my mom and ask her.

>>213842132
might be a factor even if we don't know who or what this civilisation was or came from exactly.

>>213842168
There are kooks in any domain including astrophysics, they just don't get amplified e.g. by Joe Rogan. If they were, they'd be getting called out by the field as well.

>>213842181
As if she would tell you. She needs to maintain her image. Sorry, kiddo, I fucked your mom. It was proven with the strongest piece of evidence.

>>213842048
>open pastebin
https://pastebin.com/jk2hAdmh
>ctrl+f: “why the lie”

>>213842261
you not just used one of the most idiotic examples of "gotcha!"-logic you could come up with but also discredit empiric proof to bring home your argument. at this point you're even worse than you believe hancock is. it's just corrupt cop logic. grow up.

>>213842391
>here are some other discredited or fundamently flawed conspiracy theories to back up this other conspiracy theory bro

>>213842393
>you not just used one of the most idiotic examples of "gotcha!"-logic
Just because it makes you mad doesn't mean it's idiotic. It really says more about your stated reasoning that it doesn't stand up to a basic and frankly humiliating reductio ad absurdum.
>but also discredit empiric proof
I'm super curious. Explain to me how.

>>213840117 (OP)
the fact that archaeology is not able to rigorously disprove his claims

>>213842391
>the entire world is out to get me and I'm special
I feel sorry for you schizos, really.

>>213842230
you're ignoring that they make the most outlandish claims right now and are able to keep civilized about it, even if the input comes from outsiders or, let's say, more eccentric ppl within the field.

>"WJST just made images of a galaxy that should not exist, interesting. maybe we were wrong about the age or developement of the universe?"
>"what if time goes slower in areas of the universe with less density of mass? yeah, i know, fuck einstein."
>"yeah, we call it dark matter and dark energy since we don't know what it is and have currently no way in detecting it and, frankly, are not even sure if it's a real thing but without it our complete cosmologic model would collapse."

>>213842463
>the (((mainstream institutions))) are totally trustworthy and I’m not special and anyone who thinks differently is a schizo
I genuinely feel sorry for you as well anon. The truth is that Heliocentrism is literally based upon and founded on the core tenet that you are not special in any way aka the COPErnican principle. It’s a religion of inherent nihilism to make you feel worthless despite the fact that literally all evidence shows us to be at the center of the observable cosmos.

>>213842439
i called my mom and asked her, she denied it and told me that she was with my father all the time and he confirmed. you claiming she's lying is not negation of proof, it's you being an argumentative asshole. what hancock is doing is to present, what he believes is, proof that there might be another story worth looking into it and gets denied by ppl like you because a curious journalist can't be allowed to be smarter as a group of scientists who snorted egyptian mummies like coke 100 years ago.

Randall Carlson is his strongest piece of evidence. Dude is the final boss of "do your own research".

>>213842440
no, the problem is, that they are not even willing to talk about it despite him making a good case. they rather see a series of global coincidences than to have this discussion.

>>213840117 (OP)
For what? His more retarded grand theories, or the notion that the historical narrative is inaccurate? Gobleki Tepe itself disproved the narrative that everyone was nomadic and no one could build anything at that point in history.
I had a world history class in college and I was pretty baffled by the weird blanket statements it kept making about mankind in general through different time periods which we know virtually nothing about.

>>213842533
>you're ignoring that they make the most outlandish claims right now and are able to keep civilized about it
Did you forget that "debate" Terrence "1 * 1 = 2" Howard had with Eric Weinstein on Joe Rogan? Regardless of your view of Weinstein, he still has a PhD from Harvard, so he can speak as authoritatively on his area of expertise as any other expert. Weinstein was at fist trying to be polite, and then started tearing into him. You're trying to portray Hancock as bringing some evidence to the table, but he isn't. He's just doing the archeological equivalent of stating "1 * 1 = 2". Experts don't have respect for kooks like this in any domain. It's just that they usually ignore them, unless the kooks start getting traction.

>>213842629
we're saying the same thing

>>213842596
>i called my mom and asked her, she denied it and told me that she was with my father all the time and he confirmed.
But you don't know that. Your father hasn't been with your mother all the time throughout her life. She snuck out to the bathroom and that's when I ejaculated deep in her pussy. She obviously wouldn't tell you that, and your father can't disprove it, because he didn't accompany her. Given all that, you cannot disprove I didn't do it. Hence using your reasoning of "the lack of disproof of a proposition is the strongest proof it", I fucked your mom.
>you claiming she's lying is not negation of proof
It's not proof, when her testimony isn't reliable. It's like saying a murder didn't happen, because the murderer told you it didn't. It doesn't disprove anything.
>it's you being an argumentative asshole
I simply demonstrated to you that your stated reasoning is retarded. Crying about it being humiliating to you won't change it. It frankly makes you look more pathetic. I'm not interested in whether what Hancock says is true or false, I'm not familiar with the matter, he could be right, he could be wrong. I just spotted someone using dogshit reasoning to justify one of the positions, and that's why I chose to engage with it, because it's baffling to me that some people think like this. It's like you didn't even think about it for a second.

Also, lol that you called your mom to ask about me fucking her. I'm pretty sure you didn't but the image is still pretty funny.

>>213842687
first of all, i don't really listen to rogan, so i can't say anything about that debate. second, hancock *makes a case* and is able to make a strong argument he can't bring empiric proof on the table, because he's getting gatekept and ppl from the field know they're getting excommunicated if they try to help him or pick up his work. hancock is not von däniken, i believe he deserves to be heard. if they are able to disprove his claims, that'll be the end of it.
>>213842689
it's going in circles: they can't disprove him because they refuse to look into it and he can't prove it because they won't allow him access and support. both does not make the other one wrong or right.

>>213841996
Geology is just as much a pseudo science. Just because a person finds a rock 10 miles below the surface doesn't give that person the authority to write that it was millions of years old.

>>213842821
it's the example you chose, so now play by the rules. if a court has to accept this testimony, so you have to, too. you're not a lawyer and just saying "it's not true" won't fly, so better pick a more fitting example or just shut the fuck up with your high school debate club logic.

>>213840117 (OP)
Evidence by absence. You really can't be sure until you excavate the entire African continent, in cm by cm squares, down to the Earth's mantle.

>>213842881
Geologists don't just find rocks dumbass
It is also not "just as much a pseudo science" it is a hard science

>>213842871
>he can't bring empiric proof on the table, because he's getting gatekept
He had all the chances to present his proof in the debate with Dibble on Joe Rogan. He brought a presentation with hundreds of slides. And he didn't present a SINGLE piece of evidence to support his overarching thesis. How was that possible, when he supposedly has so much evidence? Did he suffer a brain aneurysm and forgot to bring it with him?

>>213840117 (OP)
Göbekli Tepe and Megalithic Temples of Malta pretty solid as are the other sites oriented on the ancient star positions. I think that provides a very good estimate for dating the actual time of construction.

>>213842918
why do you pretent to be ignorant? hancock has a theory based on some fidings he can't prove because the instances who he needs to make this proof are shutting him down. that's the whole problem! personally, i think they can't disprove him and while that does not make him automatically right, it would give more credit to his therory and that's what they don't want, so they keep calling him a fraud.

>>213842881
you're completely wrong
geology is very rigorous

>>213842953
>because the instances who he needs to make this proof are shutting him down
Who is shutting him down and how?

ENTER

>>213842901
>if a court has to accept this testimony
No they don't, moron. People lie in court all the time and testimony gets thrown out all the time. Besides, I don't know what "court" has to do with anything here. No court would be trying to establish whether a mundane event didn't happen at any point in someone's life, because to get it to the standard of "beyond reasonable doubt", you'd have to account for every moment of that person's life, which you simply cannot do. That's one of the reasons why people say you cannot prove a negative.
>you're not a lawyer
What is this desperate grasping at straws? Do I now have to be a lawyer to be able to see when people are being retarded? Just lol.

I wish normies and boomers had an actual interest in real history. What is it about the pseudoscience crap that's so appealing?

I see what is happening in the thread. The actor who is acting in bad faith and is against Hancock is trying to poison the well by mixing Hancock's narrative with schizo shit.

>>213842985
archaeologists refuse to acknowledge some of his findings (even tho he can present it rationally) and he's banned from several premises and sites, making it impossible for him to do more research or gather academic support by interested scientists. i would totally understand it if he was like some ufo nut, but he isn't. he didn't make a single supernatural or outlandish claim. and that worries me because it sets a bad example for the future, making several scientific fields into an academic circle jerk.

>>213842917
Making up data and dates for rock layers and rocks based on feelings is 100% false data. If a rock gets tested to a date that doesn't match its rock layer age they retest again until it fits within the range of the rock layer. The current methods to test rock dates are completely amateurish. It is why they don't put these tests for children in school. If the testing methodology was on solid ground, governments the world over would be making children see how truthful these tests are to try to prove their theoretical models. Subsidizing the costs of testing.

>>213843022
I'm enjoying cavemen having dinosaur jousts, while you're memorizing dates and shit, realitycuck.

The Dibbate is over... Who came out with the W?

>>213843042
>he didn't make a single supernatural or outlandish claim.
Yeah nothing outlandish about a secret super advanced race from Atlantis creating all the world's wonders.

>>213842953
If I found three rocks in a line, I wouldn't be going around trying to claim that aliens came to earth a billion years ago and imparted sacred knowledge onto an ancient lost civilization, which eventually led to this marvelous formation. I'm exaggerating here, but the point I'm making is that the grand story Hanock weaves is in no way justified by the findings he has. It's like he tries to fit facts into his hypothesis, not the other way around, which is not how you do science. That's how you do conspiracy theories.

>>213840117 (OP)
Gobekli Tepe

>>213840117 (OP)
probably the similarity of iconographic features among many different cultures but typological correlations have long since been dismissed as a basis for cultural provenance. Cultures that experience the same lifestyles tend to pick up on the same symbolic icons.

>>213843015
>No they don't, moron. People lie in court all the time and testimony gets thrown out all the time.
if it's proven to be false. you don't do that, you just claim it's a lie because your argument will fall apart and the worst part is that you know that. that's your problem: you're not as smart as you think you are. bending arguments your way does not make them true or more credible, it just makes you more unreliable. at this point you just fit a tantrum.

>>213841169
Reddit if it was a person

>>213841827
>picrel
holy fuck Dibble, you're a piece of shit.

>>213843077
the theory is that there was a higher developed civilisation of humans prior prior to the ice age on level at least of the bronze age that managed to seed it's culture into other human societies of that time, when said civilization was wiped out most likely by the younger dryas event (if i remember right), helping them to develop faster and since it all came from the same culture, it could explain the emerge of several practices at the same time, among tribes and cultures who never had contact with each other before. no ufos.

>are you a complete fucking faggot?
>WHOA WHY ARE YOU SO ANGRY?!? I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS BRO

Why is he so disingenuos?

>>213843042
For starters I don't think you actually understand what most archaeology is. I'm an archaeological consultant (I organise and set the scope for commercial archaeological digs, basically) in the UK.
Hundreds of sites are excavated every year and thousands more are subject to geophys survey and geological site investigations. There is an enormous body of evidence for British archaeology stretching well back into prehistory, and the geology of Britain is extensively mapped. I can see in-situ bedrock hundreds of thousands of years old just beneath the wall at the back of my garden.
The problem with Hancock is that he disregards 99.99% of archaeological work that is ever done (and made full public record of) just to try to make his hypothesis fit a small amount of sites that people find interesting.
I'm not even against the theory as such, it's a cool concept to think there might have been an antediluvian Roman or enlightenment level society, but there's no evidence for it whatsoever.

Big Archeology is trying to suppress this thread as we speak... *sighs*

>>213843160
>sea Wakanda isn't UFOs so it's not outlandish
okay bro

>>213843129
If you disagree with the basedience youre literally a heckin racist sexist white supremacist NAZI

>>213843079
>similar architecture
>similar art
>similar cultural and religous practices
>astronomical knowledge that they shouldn't have had at the time
>findings of buildings that won't fit the established timeline
>all at the same time
>>213843092
i always found that a pretty weak argument and falls flat when it comes to languages, the written word and spiritual philosophy. it also stopped at some point, ignoring, that it also popped up basically at the same time.

>>213843167
your hypothetical is you asking a disingenous question, you are not even genuine in your own strawmans, reevaluate your attitudes.

>>213841996
Archaeology takes funding and fame away from geologists because human history is far more compelling to most peope than geological studies. Also, no one has ever claimed archaeology is a 'science', it falls within the humanities or at best 'social sciences' and employs scientific principles from geology, physics and chemistry to investigate the past. The actual theories of archaeology are non-scientific, because any claim about the past cannot be substantiated. But people are happy enough for the 'hard sciences' to make inferences about the past and call it science, so perhaps archaeology should count.

>>213843189
if wakanda was a bronze age society, okay. i don't care what you call it.

>>213843206
>that it also popped up basically at the same time.
What did?
What, specifically, popped up at the same time?

>>213843226
Dibble'd

>>213843178
i think the biggest problem is, that archeology does not even really want to look into his findings on a neutral basis and find a logical place for it. they just say it's not true, a coincidence or a fallacy and call it a day. i don't talk about his theory of things, but of the sites itself. with gobekli tepe we have a site that should not exist and there it is. and everyone is like "yeah, interesting site, anyways ..."

>>213843096
>if it's proven to be false
No, it's enough for it to be deemed unreliable. Like for example when your only piece of evidence of a claim is a testimony of a person who has a very strong interest in it being true. But also you're really desperately trying to get off the original topic and onto court comparisons for some reason, which I explained why isn't appropriate, because the types of claims dealt with in courts are fundamentally of a different nature. So to wrap up: there's no way you can disprove that I didn't fuck your mother. You seem to misunderstand what type of evidence you would need to produce to conclusively disprove it. You'd have to account for every moment of her life. And the moment you can't, because she either went to the bathroom or something, I can simply claim that that's when I fucked her. That's why we don't assume claims to be true until proven otherwise. We assume claims to be true when evidence of their veracity is submitted.

>>213843206
>>similar architecture
>>similar art
>>similar cultural and religous practices
>>astronomical knowledge that they shouldn't have had at the time
>>findings of buildings that won't fit the established timeline
>>all at the same time
This isn't archeological evidence. Plus this shit is addressed by Dibble in that debate. Did you watch it?

>>213843254
Sneed

>>213843206
it is a weak argument on paper but it holds weight because of precedent, which was hammered home by carbon dating which is when typological correlations got overturned. You can debate carbon dates but there is for instance very little reason to think that something like stonehenge was inspired by bronze age Greece for example even if you thought they were built at the same time, which was the original assumption,

>>213843022
The only real history we have is that which was written to us or passed down through oral tradition. Even that is filled with errors
>>213843229
Geology is not rigorous. Physics and chemistry are modern age pseudo quackery that is just backed by governments. Archeology is as rigorous as those "hard" sciences.

Is it true that the ancients were able to take drugs and levitate stone blocks with the power of their mind?

>>213843282
>claim got denied
>got a reliable witness
>wouldn't gain anything from lying about it because no one would care
>no priors, no history of cheating or a deviant lifestyle
you on the other hand would have to explain why you insist that you fucked a women in her mid 70s and why your claim is more reliable than hers (or of her witness).

>>213843229
99% of archaeology basically is geology. Digging an archaeological feature is effectively removing part of a layer that was cut into (or placed on top of) a superficial or bedrock layer. On a wider level you then use the stratigraphy of everything you've dug to produce a sequence for the site on a harris matrix.

To be a good archaeologist you need to be a good geologist, or at least have an extremely good working knowledge of your area's geology. As an example it's very hard to tell the difference between in situ chalk bedrock and colluvial chalk. The only way to really be sure (if you're in a hilly area) is to whack a test pit down a couple of metres to see if there's a buried topsoil beneath it.

Graham should just say "I have a theory and have noticed similarities however no definitive evidence exists" instead of claiming it exists and it's irrefutable proof of a global ancient civilization then falling back on the "I'm just asking questions!" routine which is dumb as fuck. You can't claim something multiple times in books, podcasts and a Netflix series then say you're just asking questions. I've seen at least 4 Hancock JRE episodes before the Dibble episode. He said multiple times there was an ancient global civilization

>>213843337
So how did they make granite vases less than an inch thick?

>>213843309
no, i didn't since i heard about it for the first time today. and no, it's archaeological evidence since we talk about buildings, but also historical/social/cultural.

>>213843280
>everyone is like "yeah, interesting site, anyways ..."
It's literally one of the most in-depth excavations in the world, what more do you want?
It's an extremely cool site but as we excavate more of it and more sites in that region we grow our understanding of the pre pottery neolithic in that area. It's absolutely been significant in evolving our view of the transition between hunter gathering and agriculture, since the site bridges that space.

>>213840117 (OP)
I don't know, because Based Graham Chadcock is right about everything. The mainstream jewed anthropologists nowadays claim that so-called 'anatomically modern humans' have been around for about 300,000 years (a few decades ago they said 200,000 years, but that's beside the point). Consider this, mainstream anthropologists claim that so-called 'anatomically modern humans' arose about 300,000 years ago in Africa yet they also claim that the first civilisation arose about 5,000 years ago in Sumer. So you mean to tell me that humans, with all of their inquisitiveness and all of their industriousness, did nothing but swing from trees and shit in caves for the first 295,000 years of their existence? It's fucking ridiculous. Everything we can all directly observe about human nature tells us that we would develop a culture (and later a civilisation) rapidly after the birth of our species, not 295,000 fucking years later.

For me, it's Baalbek

>>213843394
>what more do you want
them looking at it as being more than just "pre pottery neolighic". shit has meaning and tells a story, it's not someones kitchen, it must have been a VERY significant site for whoever built it.

>>213842391
>hide more resources that you will never own because billionaires already own them all

>>213843355
He weakens his own point by sticking with the Atlantis stuff. The idea that human civilization was more "advanced" at an earlier time than is commonly accepted, is both logical and likely correct. He should just hammer that home, not that is was Atlantis or some super civilization or aliens...just that the commonly accepted timeline is wrong and there is enough evidence/coincidence to support exploring that more. The fact that this simple point makes archeologists foam at the mouth is evidence in his favor.

>>213843428
>it must have been a VERY significant site for whoever built it.
Obviously, but that doesn't mean you ignore the available evidence and the wider context of the site.

>>213840117 (OP)
you can tell this nig is a retarded narcissist by looking at his face

>>213843456
atlantis became synonymous with "prehistoric advanced civilizations" but i agree that it's a "burned term" because of all that alien shit.
>>213843460
>Obviously, but that doesn't mean you ignore the available evidence and the wider context of the site.
like making it impossible to do more digging in that area?

>>213843347
Again, you seem to lack the mental capacity to understand that your disproof doesn't actually disprove my claim.
>>claim got denied
She has an interest in lying.
>>got a reliable witness
I'm claiming the fucking happened at a time when the witness couldn't have seen her. Hence it's not a witness at all.
>>wouldn't gain anything from lying about it because no one would care
She would gain from it. If her family found out, her family would fall apart, because of her cheating.
>>no priors, no history of cheating or a deviant lifestyle
This doesn't really disprove anything. I could easily say it was her first time doing something like this.
>explain why you insist that you fucked a women in her mid 70s
I have a fetish for old women. Problem?

When I tell you a claim like "I fucked your mom", the correct response it "prove it". I should supply the evidence of a claim. If not, then why should anyone believe it's true? That's how most people operate. But you made a different claim. You said, that the lack of disproof is the strongest kind of proof. Which is essentially saying that every claim is true until proven otherwise. And if you can't really disprove a claim, then I guess it's just assumed to be true. Like the fact that I fucked your mom.

>>213843456
>The fact that this simple point makes archeologists foam at the mouth is evidence in his favor.
There's a lot of angry debate across archaeology, all of it involving people far more intelligent than hancock
Francis Pryor was one of the best minds in British archaeology, all round fantastic bloke. He spent his later years trying to convince everyone that the Anglo-Saxon invasions didn't happen. This theory made a lot of people quite angry.
He was partially correct as later genetic evidence showed that wholesale replacement/genocide didn't happen, but his wider theory that it was a peaceful transition is complete bollocks. Just because it made people angry didn't make it correct.

>>213843280
shut up, retard

>>213843355
If you're going to criticize Hancock for taking interpretive liberties then you should also criticize archeology and science tenfold more for arrogance and complete ignorance of contradictory evidence, then i will take your criticism seriously.

>>213843555
>arrogance

>>213843493
>making it impossible to do more digging in that area

Believe it or not you can't just go digging up world heritage sites without a proper scheme of investigation. Work is still ongoing in the area anyway, particularly at karahan tepe nearby

>>213843512
i really hope for your own sake you will never end up in a court of law, charged with anything minor and arguing your way into prison like that lol

>>213843566
What is he arrogant for? Putting forward a viable hypothesis with evidence that contradicts the BS establishment narrative? If Hancock is arrogant Zahi Hawass is the lord of arrogance.

>>213843608
>viable

>>213843608
>evidence that contradicts the BS establishment narrative?
What evidence? He thinks gobekli tepe is the smoking gun because it couldn't have been built by hunter-gatherers; when he can't even understand the excavation evidence showing it was initially built by hunter-gatherers

>>213843521
Thats a fair point. I wasnt trying to say that it making people angry is enough by itself, just that its a factor. In this case there is a lot of accepted theory about human history that would be deemed inaccurate if not flat out wrong if "civilization" turned out to be far older than 12,000 years. Other disciplines dont react as poorly to new ideas as archeology seems to. For example, paleontology and the view of dinosaurs has changed A LOT over the last 100 years but paleontologists arent constantly seething about it.

>>213843555
Thank you for joining us tonight, Graham. When's the next season? What sites are you focusing?

>>213843629
Well the mainstream explanation certainly isn't viable because they claim hunter gatherers built gobekli tepe, did nothing for a few thousand years and then built the pyramids.

>>213843647
>Other disciplines dont react as poorly to new ideas as archeology seems to
Archaeology has changed a lot over the last 100 years, the problem is that archaeological theory is extremely boring and makes 99% of people instantly switch off so they think archaeology is still stuck in 1890.
If you are interested then look up some of the work of the early processual archaeologists like Colin Renfrew, and later post-processualists.

>>213843684
Thanks for joining us tonight Flibbly Dibbly whens your next reddit AMA, have your gold kind sir or whatever they say on that NPC midwit gathering.

>>213843712
>I don't know anything about the Neolithic and copper/early bronze ages so I will just skip over it and pretend civilisation just skipped from gobekli tepe to the pyramids with nothing in between but time

>>213843049
>>213843328
>The only real history we have is that which was written to us or passed down through oral tradition. Even that is filled with errors
Yeah, no shit. That's what history is you fucking idiot.

>>213843636
>when he can't even understand the excavation evidence showing it was initially built by hunter-gatherers
Gobekli Tepe has at least 3 levels only 1 of which has been fully excavated, you have no idea what you're talking about. You guys are about your agendas not evidence, you ignore the evidence for your theory instead of changing your theory to fit the evidence.

>>213843744
So what happened then retard? We're waiting.

I will say psychedelics make you more emotionally intelligent which can lead to better communication and harmony between tribes etc but I don't know if it helped teach them how to build shit

>>213843776
The devlopment of agriculture in the levant and early urbanism at Tel sites and settlements like Catal Hoyuk and Jericho. These proto-urban areas eventually became river valley civilisations along the Tigris/Euphrates and the Nile.
>>213843763
What evidence is there that it wasn't built initially by hunter-gatherers?

>>213843722
yeah it is a shame that Dibble was so fixated on attacking Hancock that he didn't really provide a background to archaeological theory. If people knew the history of the discipline then the objections of most archaeologists towards Hancocks approach would make a lot more sense, whereas currently Hancock can still say it is all illogical and rooted in academic pride and pomp.

>>213843810
>The devlopment of agriculture in the levant and early urbanism at Tel sites and settlements like Catal Hoyuk and Jericho. These proto-urban areas eventually became river valley civilisations along the Tigris/Euphrates and the Nile.
So where is anything like Gobekli Tepe or the pyramids in that time? Nowhere to be found, your bullshit theory doesn't make any sense and you know it but ignore it anyway because you clutch to these stories that maintain your idiotic dogmatic worldview.
>What evidence is there that it wasn't built initially by hunter-gatherers?
The burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim. Your original claim was complete unfactual bullshit you pulled out of your ass that anyone with even the slightest knowledge could verify, even your archeological heroes would probably know that.
Maybe we can have a serious conversation when you don't just literally make up things that everybody knows is false to fit your moronic narrative.

>>213843847
>hereas currently Hancock can still say it is all illogical and rooted in academic pride and pomp.
And he would be mostly right, regardless of wether he's right about the issue or not, modern academia is a joke.

>>213843895
>>213843907
here's your attention

Bobklepi titty

>>213843929
good adhom

Yea, it's Dibble's world... we're just hancocking in it

If a single civilization was responsible for the same sciences, architecture, trade, etc. developing across the world then it would be reasonable to expect that the newer civilizations would've mentioned their progenitor/benefactor in writing, drawings and oral tale. Do we have any Egyptian or Mayan or Babylonian texts mentioning this super-duper civilization?

>>213842629
>him making a good case
that’s not really a good standard of evidence.

>>213840434
nigga we are not spending the GDP of a small country to terraform a fucking desert just because a schizo wants us to do so

>>213844001
thats not necessarily the case. It doesnt take very long for memory to fade on things. There are zoomers alive today who have no idea what a long distance call is or a rotary phone etc. Those are things that were still somewhat in use 25 years ago. Assuming the cataclysm theory wiped out a lot of the prior civilization, it wouldnt take all that long(maybe ~100 years) for nearly all memory of the previous civilization to all but disappear completely.

>>213841991
goteem

>>213843435
>billionaires already own them all
Billionaires own 0.00001% of the consumer goods in the economy.

You okay brainlet?
>b-but they own money and assets
Those aren't resources, aka consumer goods and services.

>>213843098
You have no idea how right you are since he has stage 3 cancer

>>213843407
a bit difficult perhaps during the ice age.

>>213840117 (OP)
Have faith anon

>>213840171
but they're (almost) completely straight, dude. Its part of the Lumerian highway to Atlantis. Look at the Peri Reis map, before the YOUNGER DRY ASS.

>>213841827
>Gobekli Tepe
Low IQ blue collar retards keep repeating this like it means anything. What the fuck do you think it is that Gobekli Tepe proves, dummy?

>>213840117 (OP)
how the jews have reacted to him