Thread 213841570

He destroyed America's democratic tradition, packed the courts, openly violated numerous existing domestic and foreign affairs laws, put Japanese-Americans into internment camps, and let Pearl Harbour happen
Yet Truman seems to get more hate?

>>213841570 (OP)
Because he ushered in the Zionist new world order so Jews in Hollywood are required to worship him.

>>213841570 (OP)
FDR loved commies while Truman hated them.

He did a lot for the working class during the depression. Lots of social reforms. That's what he's mostly remembered for. The main thing he did wrong during the war apart from getting America into it was dying and letting the nerd Truman fuck things up and inadvertently start the cold war.

>>213841632
Truman covered up lots of commie infiltration.

>>213841632
And cuckservatives hate FDR because he didn't suck the jewish banker cock eagerly enough

>>213841640
FDR gave everything possible to the Soviets without anything in return. He was either a commie or a moron.

He started America on the road to the social welfare state which people who make movies think was a good thing.

>>213841683
>FDR gave everything possible to the Soviets without anything in return.
It's because we stole everything from our European allies using the fear of the USSR. It was a 4d chess move. Seriously FDR was a huge proponent of decolonization

>>213841683
They were allies. Without the Soviets the war would've been lost.

>>213841703
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST HELP THE POOR WORKING CLASS ON THE EXPENSE OF THE JEW BANKERS AAAAA I'M GOING HECKIN INSANE HELP ME ORANGE MAN

>>213841712
Allies who were deepthroating Ribbentrop in '39. They got what they deserved; we should've lend-leased both sides of the Eastern Front.

>>213841731
It's gibs for boomers and blacks on the backs of working class whites.

>>213841739
Every european country had a pact with Nazi germany at the time. A lot of them secretly wanted the Nazis to wage war on the USSR since the european elites were terrified of workers rights. Ironically the ultimate anti-communist, for whatever reason, became fixated on attacking both western Europe and le commies at the same time. It's probably one of the funniest ironies of the war.

>>213841754
Back then it wasn't.

he may have been a commie lover but at least truman was man enough to nuke those chinks that were fucking with us after hotwheels cripplesister died of hpv or whatever

>>213841768
Welcome to "welfare creep." Your "charitable program" will always expand to unsustainable dimensions. Either people will vote themselves more gibs, or medical advancements will extend lives so that more people can suck down welfare for longer. The only winning move is not to play.

>>213841762
>Ironically the ultimate anti-communist, for whatever reason, became fixated on attacking both western Europe and le commies at the same time.
It was the Brits and France who declared war on Germany though, not the other way around. Hitler initially was ready to make Britain allies.

>>213841762
>since the european elites were terrified of workers rights
Workers in the West had rights; that's why interwar commie movements failed there. Soviet workers got gulag'd for striking, while striking was the national pasttime in France, Weimar, and Britain.

>>213841813
Ok, so you're gonna put things that happened 80 years after he died on the man?

>>213841892
Don't create an incentive for people to vote themselves more gibs. Don't create a precedent. Anybody could've predicted that the welfare state would've inevitably expanded, and all bureaucracy seeks to grow. Numerous cases throughout history.

>>213841945
What gibs even is there in the US these days? Aren't people like dying on the streets and crippled with medical debt?

>>213841570 (OP)

He cultivated one of the most successful cults of personality of all time. One that's outlived him by close to a century now. Even 80 years after his death, the Democratic Party still worships him like a god.

>>213841570 (OP)
The fact that he loved Stalin so much is pretty cringe desu.

>>213841703
>social welfare
>Americans should would harder and have less at a time where everything is being automated
retard

>>213841968
Somebody post the new TikTok webm of the obese sheboon with 9 niglets bragging out the $12,000 in food stamps she got and showing off the $1500 in snack foods she just bought

>>213842093
>we need to gut all social programs because blacks use it too
NPC behavior.

>>213842093
Ah, so you get your information about the world from tiktok, it figures.

>>213841968
Medical debt really isn't a thing. They're not allowed to come after you for it and if you show up in an emergency room they're legally required to treat you.
t. degenerate alcoholic who has woken up in ambulances and emergency rooms dozens of times and never paid a cent.

>>213842115
lmao nobody BUT blacks use it

>>213841968
all the people dying in the street are drug addicts. if you're willing to stay sober it's basically impossible to be legit homeless.

>>213842093
Found it

>>213842115
>we need to gut all social programs because blacks use it too
this but unironically

>>213842141
Majority of welfare recipients are white though. Especially those on medicare and military benefits.

>>213842205
lmao the one with Ice Spice on her shirt
>>213842223
>military benefits
>welfare
lmfao

>>213841968
Wdym? The US has a huge welfare state, the only thing stopping it from being like Europe is the universality.

>>213842249
>>military benefits
>>welfare
They are. There's no reason why sitting on your ass behind a desk in Florida for a year grants you unlimited medical treatment and a college degree. It should be combat vets only.

>>213842205
These niggers have a HOUSE. Wtf

>>213842205
W...we're still getting those doge dividends r..right guys?

>>213842205
don't forget their section 8 housing and free healthcare

>>213842263
They get huge housing benefits too. Makes no sense.

>>213842205
welfare state operating as it was intended to: incentivize the uneducated working class to subsidized processed food companies, and the corn farmers further up the line. Don't pretend poor whites aren't doing the exact same thing.

>>213841620
>Freemason jew hates commies
Sure, that's why he dropped 2 nukes on Japan instead of commie China and Russia. Btw, he dropped the Nagasaki bomb right above a cathedral, like a good comie jew

>>213841683
Siding with Jim dea against Germany was what he did wrong in the first place, if you can't see this, you're the moron. As if siding with commie Russia was okay until Germany was beaten. For what reason other than being a jewish puppet?

>>213842473
>>213841683
FDR secured American hegemony and a western front against global communism you fucking retards. Germany literally lost against the USSR do you think they could have defeated them along with the global threat of communism after the war, given how myopic they were? Yeah go fuck yourselves. Pax Americana is why you are even alive.

>>213842328
She looks like a fat white lady with painted skin and a wig

If you want to bitch about eroding civil liberties and expanding the executive branch to the point of superceding all checks and balances, then go to Lincoln. FDR is just a continuation of things Lincoln did.

>>213842205

if its so easy why isn't everybody having nine kids ?

>>213842811
>I'm gonna have nine kids so I can get free Takis
this really isn't a good strategy

>>213841570 (OP)
Truman caught the tail wave of all that and let some pretty heinous shit through under his watch.
Large scale civilian bombings and the reestablishment of the federal reserve alone are enough to make a bad impression.

cause he's the reason we ever had a middle class

>>213842959
That was the dollar becoming the world reserve currency post-war.

>>213842115
It's not "blacks use it too", it's "blacks use it to a massively disproportional degree"

The entire welfare state is a massive cash transfer from whites to blacks

>>213842250
What does that mean?

>>213843643
He means in Europe lots of people receive benefits. In America, it's mostly poor blacks

>>213842959
Kill yourself nigger FDR was a piece of shit

>>213842525
You're a dicksucking faggot

Why exactly are the Japanese American internment camps a slight against him? Literally every allied country was doing the same for German & Italian citizens

>>213843782
Because the American media has an agenda to maximize white guilt via any avenue available. I'll let you speculate why.

>>213841570 (OP)
He was a massive liar even compared to other politicians

>>213843820
Where can I be indoctrinated to believe this?

>>213843820
pee oh el
but honestly it should've already happened here if you were paying attention
you can't use any board on this site without tripping over a bunch of redpills like they were ball bearings in a three stooges short

>>213841570 (OP)
>actually helps regular people
>chuds hate him for it
Why are they like this?

>>213844967
meant for >>213844923

>>213841570 (OP)
>put Japanese-Americans into internment camps
Based.

We should have put all muslims in camps after 9/11

>>213842811
Work having the potential to grant a higher quality of life than welfare doesn't automatically justify said welfare. People have different tolerances to working.

literally who

Chuds worship the 50s yet despise everything that got the 50s to where it was.

>>213845326
Winning WW2 is the only thing that made the 50s the 50s.

>>213845379
>the only thing
It's adorable how simple-minded you are.

>>213845400
And irritating how simple-minded you are

>>213845417
Pathetic comeback. Do better.

>>213845400
I could win $50 million in the lottery and use the money to buy a house, and then say I was able to buy my house because I won the lottery, and people like you would say "well don't forget that $5 off coupon you had for Loew's, that also paid for it. And also the ten bucks your parents lent you."
American prosperity during the second half of the 20th century was the result of winning WW2 and the dollar become the global reserve currency.
American

>>213841570 (OP)
Wasn't he the one who defeated Hitler and the Nazi empire? Only King Arthur or any other mythological figure could be more heroic.

>>213842205
Just thinking about someone, even a family, eating that volume of slop, it's enough to make a man sick.

>>213841570 (OP)
all you need to know about this awful president, is that two terms was honored for so long, with such respect for Washington until this crypto nigger forced a fucking amendment. That right there is all you need to know about the intentions of the New Deal. Mind you, if everyoness social security went into their own 401k, there would be no retirement issues.

>>213845800
no, name faggot, that would be Truman who gets the W. FDR is the jewish socialist. Any president in war that doesnt turn to silver or Abes greenbacks is a literal gold grubbing rothschild pawn

>>213841620
No he didn't that was Truman and the Czechs.

>>213841570 (OP)
FDR saved capitalism from itself and rightoids will never forgive him for this

>>213841860
It was the USSR first that tried to declare war on Germany, but British and French kept fucking over Soviet efforts to assfuck Germany, which led to the Brits in particular helping Germany and the Fascists assfuck the Czechs and Spain while the Soviets got blockaded from helping in any serious fashion.
Stalin eventually was like "fuck this" after numerous attempts to set up essentially a proto-NATO among "democratic" european countries, signed a non aggression pact with Germany, hoped they would get bogged down in France while the Soviets stole as much German tech they could. Soviets miscaculated though because the French were retarded and capitulated immediately.

>>213846828
250 trillion dollars in entitlements from the New Deal in USA as it stands right now. They will never be paid. There hasnt been a good democrat since William Jennings Bryan, troon

>>213846882
cry harder about the man that saved your precious capitalist system

>>213846914
you a very ignorant. You must think theres a difference between communism, socialism and capitalism. There is only jewish central banking or government issuance of currency. Nazi germany did the later due to reparations designed to handicap them post ww1. It is literally Money changers versus government issued money. Abe also created FIAT banking without jews, whereas, FDR, in your mind, was capitalist because he paid for the war in gold backed (rothschild) currency. No, as evident in many cases, including 2008, capitalism was never saved, it proved it never existed as losses in both systems are subsidized for money changers

>>213842013
Stalin was genuinely the most popular man in the world at the time, people literally broke down crying in streets in Italy, France, Britain etc when he died, the Catholic church literally said
>When we saw that Hitler and Mussolini persecuted people for their race, and at the same time saw how the Russians, composed of 160 different ethnicities, sought to fuse them
together, overcoming the differences between Asia and Europe, this attempt, this effort towards the unification of human society, let us say: this is Christian, this is eminently universalist and the embodyment of Catholicism.
Stalin was to the average person, "Uncle Joe". The man who defeated Nazi Germany.
It wasn't until Destalinization and Khrushchev basically smeared Stalin with every piece of Anti-Communist cold war propaganda he could did Stalin's image fall apart in the west. Even the opening of the Soviet archives actually debunks much of the anti-Stalin narratives (holodomor, scale of the purges were vastly exaggerated, the lie he broke down at the start of barbarossa etc), they still continue in public consciousness because frankly, we need to justify Eastern European Ultra-Nationalism because it's useful against modern Russia.
>>213841739
This is one of the most annoying things about the rewriting of WW2 narratives to present the USSR as the bad guys. Like seriously, Finland, the Balts, Poland etc were all Nazi cocksucking fascist shitholes who were genociding minorities and annexing land all over the place. Another thing that people forgot is the USSR and US were basically the most liberal progressive forces in the world at the time, and American and Soviet elites both despised the "Old World" superiority complex, classism, colonialism and aristocratic snobbery.

>>213841731
You can, but should you? Looking at the US: no, you should not.

>>213846980
>immediately rants about DA JOOOOOOS
>"capitalism never existed"
meds, now
>>>/pol/

>>213841570 (OP)
You forgot the worst. He made an alliance with the Saudis.
Saudis give the US their oil -> the US gives the Saudis protection.

>>213841570 (OP)

FDR is literally the genesis of the Hollywood connection to the Democratic party and to state propaganda.

FDR was the first president to directly control mass media to convey his message. Prior Presidents would make speeches or give interviews; but FDR had his own weekly radio program where he was addressing the nation his so called "Fireside Chats". More than that he was working with people in Hollywood to construct a new system of propaganda using films and radio and fiction to lead the public not into thinking what he wanted them to; but into feeling it. Why construct a boring logical argument to convince someone of a policy when you can work with Hollywood to make a story about how great that policy is? He used this new propaganda power to sell his New Deal policies during the depression and then he greatly expanded it to sell the war effort and maintain public morale during WWII.

That's why Hollywood idolizes FDR. He turned them from just being a minstrel show into thinking of themselves as patriots leading the people towards the new progressive future that the party had planned for them. That self important egotism and loyalty to the Democratic party still guides them today. They aren't just putting on a play, they're the moral and cultural voice of America, nay the voice of the free world!

That's the gift of egotism FDR gave to Hollywood. Is it any wonder that they love him?

>>213847075
>scale of the purges were vastly exaggerated
this is by far the stupidest one
people assume random farmers and factory workers were getting grabbed and shot in alleys all over the soviet union when the only people that got purged were high ranking political officials and military leaders that were in moscow, and when local governments tried to copy the moscow purges the central government told them to knock it off

>>213847257
the jewish state of post Tsar Russia is still awful in just about every metric. Entire books have been written and banned from translation discussing the opposite you purport. Ashkenazi hands typed this post

>>213847296
>da JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS
meds now

>>213847315
jews also have this projection issue about mental illness, coin clipping paws typed this post