Thread 213850112

What did 1.7 million Ukranian men die for? And who will they be replaced with?

>>213850112 (OP)
You know what, you're right, I should start believing what Russians say.

This is a genocide

>>213850112 (OP)
Nothing. It didn't matter, and that's why it's good. Thousand of dirty subhuman slavs die each day, that's a net benefit for all of humanity.

Vranyo and dedovschina are concepts entirely antithetical to human civilization; and "culutres" that propagate such ideas need to be eliminated to the last "person" to propagate such ideas.

>Disclose.tv is a disinformation outlet[8] based in Germany that presents itself as a news aggregator.[2][6] It is known for promoting conspiracy theories[14] and fake news,[20] including COVID-19 misinformation[3][2][6] and anti-vaccine narratives.[23]
Cool source.

>>213850112 (OP)
Zelenskyy is Jewish and he’s happy to see white men die.

>>213850112 (OP)
For a war that's gone on three years, you'd think with all its bluster, that the great bear would have done better.

>>213850249
>including COVID-19 misinformation[3][2][6] and anti-vaccine narratives.[23]
Based source.

>>213850112 (OP)
What's the choice, just give up whenever another country invades yours?

>>213850112 (OP)
Ukraine didn't have 1.7 million people to fight to begin with, so this is very blatantly fake numbers made up by Russia. I would certainly not be surprised if 1.7 million Russian troops have died though, that makes more sense logistically and statistically.

>>213850112 (OP)
Impressive. Now let's see Russia's losses.

Aren't Ukranians and Russians basically the same exact people? Why are they fighting?

>>213850112 (OP)
>Russian hackers

keep gulaghomo in your own country, we dont want it here

>>213850112 (OP)
>russian hackers
I believe it saaaaar
Quality thread saaaaaaaaaar

>>213850419
Russia, a failed state, is propping up its retarded regime on the same Soviet-era propaganda of supposed Western fascism that it always has. When Ukraine, an equally failed state, attempted to realign from a Russian vassal to a European vassal, this obviously had to be framed as an existential threat to Russia (which it is, if you define Russia entirely as the regime in charge) so Russia had to invade.

>>213850112 (OP)
I'm sure these Russian hackers are trustworthy and have no interest in fudging figures to make Ukraine look worse.

>>213850406
>Ukraine didn't have 1.7 million people to fight to begin with,
What do you bade this off of?

>>213850249
they sound alright to me, vaxxy

>>213850487
Why doesn't Ukraine simply crush Russia then? Instead we have Zelenskike going around the world begging for handouts.

pol thread but the state of boomers on this board is sad, almost k level

>>213850654
Russia is for fags

>>213850112 (OP)
I refuse to believe anyone is dumb enough to believe this

Wow, they killed a gorrillion of them and STILL haven't won? Who writes this shit.

>>213850249
>anti-vaccine narratives
lol

>>213850654
>anyone that doesn't fall for /pol/ tier fakeslop is a boomer

>>213850112 (OP)
>reportedly
by whom?

>>213850485
Russias economy has elevated from middle-income to high-income in the last 2 years. The economy has been revitalized from the inflow of oligarch cash and intermediaries to avoid sanctions like China, Iran, turkey and Israel. If anything Russia has benefited from excising all their outdated Soviet military equipment and is dumping 10% of their GDP into defensive capabilities not seen since the USSR. Face it: ukraine as we know it pre 2021 is dead. It has little hope beyond becoming a vassal state of the Russian federation or becoming a rump state that is more like Poland than it is like Germany, and slave to both.

>>213850901
Well, Poland is richer than Russia, so it wouldn't be bad for Ukraine to become like Poland.

>>213850901
The cope you faggots come up with is fucking insane.

>>213850901
>Russias economy has elevated from middle-income to high-income in the last 2 years.
seriously doubt this is true. Living standards always go down during wartime, not up. A few war profiteers making money doesn't make a country "high income"

Thank God based Putin is here to save us from Western degeneracy.

"Vassal state" is a termed only used by subhumans who have no concept of cooperation and focus on alpha/beta dichotomies and matters of face.

>>213850112 (OP)
>they should just let ivan rape and pillage their country because uhhh they just should ok something something woke something something
Fuck off back to tour rat hole vatnik

>>213850112 (OP)
two more weeks

how brown do you have to be to believe this?

>>213850901
> what do you mean crisis, look at all this money we are printing!

sounds like bullshit

>>213850112 (OP)
>>213850892
I looked it up, the source is literally some fake website with fake AI generated authors. The site even has advertising for Russian whores lmao

I believe this for sure, Russia has been nothing but honest and forthcoming this entire war, which Ukraine itself started through its NATO expansion aggression.

Based dying for Gay Pride Parades to own the Russians

>>213850112 (OP)
>What did 1.7 million Ukranian men die for?
To save their country from invaders
>And who will they be replaced with?
With Asian migrants if Putin has a say in it

>>213850901
this all sounds unlikely
usually eastern europe already struggles with birth rates
less people
less employed people
less people spending money
less employed people because market shrinks
less people spending money..
its kinda circle

economic sanctions are also nothing to laugh at
maybe the war chest of putin is big so far
and he can keep enough money up so that people dont feel the reality
but its matter of time
and not some economic miracle that government spending money
on projets, in this case war, that dont have near future return of investment...
thats not a sound policy
if the war chest is big enough and if they can get the win..
then it was a luxury that they could afford
though of course its of no value for like quarter million russian gopniks blown to pieces by drones or another hundreds thousands crippled

>>213850112 (OP)
That would mean that russia lost 5 mil at least. Wtf.

>>213850647
>Why doesn't Ukraine simply crush Russia then?
Because Ukraine is not a great power, but a minor regional one like the rest of most of Europe.

>Ukrainian losses at their lowest point when Russia had the greatest concentration of artillery and AFVs
>highest when Russia is conducting scooter assaults
Very believable

>>213850998
so people who focus on politics you snarky no reply faggot
>inb4 invoking causality chains

>>213851145
this 100% happened

>>213850112 (OP)
Lol, they are implicitly revealing 850,000 Russian deaths, since Russians typically claim that Ukrainian losses are twice their own.

I can believe it. You know why? Someone post the image about Russians bombing a bunker full of Ukranian soldiers by locating it through a Ukranian soldier playing the violin.

>>213850901
> intermediaries to avoid sanctions like China, Iran, turkey and Israel
Russia received virtually no investment since the start of the war. They are not replacing their lost equipment either. At most refurbishing ussrslop from warehouses.
Funny that you mention the “vassal state” when, factually, russia is one to China.

>>213850249
So if I go check, what are the chances that they were amongst the first to point out that clearly Covid did not originate at a wet market, but was instead a result of illegal gain-o-function research at the nearby lab, or that they've been pointing out that the vaccine has done more harm than good for anyone under 40 and that the rates of serious side effects is 4-5 times higher than all other vaccines?

>>213851250
That was like a second week of war. But also, by the same logic you should believe that russia lost 4+ millions.

>>213851261
Are you still on that schizo train? Billions of people took the vaxx, nothing changed.

>>213851227
Idk shit but wouldn't your casualties increase the most when you send the most people into the meat grinder, regardless of how the meat's being ground?

>>213850190
yeah jews are good at getting people to do their work for them

>>213851342
But they aren’t sending much more. Just in shittier conditions.

>>213851371
Russians have consciously decided to bow their heads to jews when they killed the Czar. You can’t just say that it was some kind of trickery. They are imps to jewish devils.

>>213850249
At least 5 years too late, shitstain. This doesn't work anymore.

how did my other offtopic i made after this one get deleted before it wtf

>>213851145
>Russians with attitude
Yeah I'm gonna believe the claims of some low iq Russians about Ukraine, they're clearly not biased and we can see the proof they provided

>>213851444
The Russian government pays 4chan to allow propaganda threads. Haven't noticed the same groups of agitation threads over a

>>213850406
>I would certainly not be surprised if 1.7 million Russian troops have died though, that makes more sense logistically and statistically.
Far from it. Even Ursula von der Leyen said UKR had over 300k losses, and that was a long ass time ago.

>>213851531
Recent reports do estimate nearly 1 mill casualties, though I think that includes the people with legs blown off along with the dead.

14:1 bros?? our response??

>>213850419
Ukraine was weaponized against Russia by western interests after the USSR collapsed. About 14k ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine were killed by the Ukrainian regime. Some people were barricaded and burned alive in 2014. That was when this started, not 2022. Capeshit brained faggots can keep spewing one sided bullshit all they want, no one buys it anymore.

>>213850310
How is that a lol? They doubled the territory under their control despite a huge investment of arms and financial assistance from the rest of the world to their enemy.
Personally I don't give a shit about Ukraine, I think the money Joe Biden pissed away over there and in Israel should stay here in America in the pockets of the American taxpayer. But what do I know.
>>213850419
The answer is Jews, of course. It's about putting jews in positions of power there so they can fuck with Russia to the benefit of kikes in Yorup and the USA.
I could get more into it but the easiest simplest answer is Jews doing jew shit, perpetuating conflicts and usurping the power of democracy for their own ends. (Ukraine had a referendum on if they should let some of their territory join Russia, guess who won the vote).

>>213851314
And millions had serious side effects that were worse than if they had just gotten Covid. All for a "vaccine" that didn't make them immune to future infections, nor stopped them from spreading it to others. You know, the 2 things that make other vaccines so valuable for public health.

>Record in 2025
>not even 2/3 over
lol

>>213850987
This is according to the World Bank

>>213851576
It's really interesting to wonder if there's some tipping point where public opinion would get bad enough that Putin actually had to change course. I assume that even a people as chronically demoralized and cattlebrained as the Russians would start to riot if enough of their sons were killed over resources they will never see any benefit from.

>>213851670
You're mentally ill. Imagine genuinely believing that everything is about Jews, lol.

>>213851668
thank you for telling the truth saar

>>213851668
even if any of that were true (none of it is), how many Russians do the Ukranians now get to kill?

>>213850932
>>213850952
Not according to the World Bank lel cope>>213851073

>>213851755
That's just inflation rate.

>>213850249
>COVID-19 misinformation[3][2][6] and anti-vaccine narratives.[23]
I do that too

I can believe that Ukraine casualties were the worst this year because everybody seems to acknowledge until they don't that it's a law of the universe that entrenched defenders live longer than mobile attackers

And Ukraine picked this retarded moment to be the attacker and try to LEROY JENKINS their way into Kursk

You can cut the vatniggers out of that debate entirely, look at the western sources and how they're divided between "that was a brilliant feint to divert Russia's resources" and "they just killed a shitload of their own guys to temporarily occupy nothing, what the fuck was the point of that"

>>213851668
History started in February 2022, everything before that is Russian propaganda

>>213851752
>you must be a pajeet
God I love rightoids. Real life Wile E. Coyote.
>>213851754
>none of it is
Cope, the comic book bullshit is over
>how many Russians do the Ukranians now get to kill?
No idea, as despite being American, I'm not into conspicuous bloodlust and and sadism approaching demonic possession.

Really bizarre how all these incredibly well-informed pro-Russia posters come out of the woodwork every time there's a thread like this

>>213851876
Rightoids support Russia, same as radical left. All the enemies of Western civilization support Russia.

>>213851893
maybe you're just too retarded to talk about it

>>213851893
hey stop noticing

I don't look at Russian sources. Russians always lie.
When the pro-NATO sources start reporting shit like "50% of the tanks sent to Ukraine have been destroyed" isn't that at least a little worrying?

>>213850112 (OP)
>1.7 million Ukranian men
does that mean they're going to import men from brown nations?

>>213851968
no, because they'll just send more and tanks are useless drone bait anyway

>>213851968
Worrying for what? Does anyone honestly believe Ukraine has a chance of actually prevailing at this point? The entire gambit is just making the entire thing as bloody and costly for Russia as possible at this point so they at least think twice about doing this to another neighbor next.

>>213851968
We'll just send more Ivan

>>213851876
> I'm not into sadism and bloodlust, I just casually justify it online

>>213851830
But precisely Ukrainians took Russians with their pants down and entrenched themselves in Kursk. It took Russia some bloody months to take that land back.

>>213851668
That didn't happen, but they deserved it

>>213851968
The point is to bleed Russia dry while they arm themselves or until Russia collapses

>>213851929
>jews support Russia
they seem to be scrambling to fuck them up like last time
>>213851968
You're at least approaching this in semi-good faith. Most of these fucktards are just spouting blind propaganda that affirms whatever weird anti Russian hard-on the establishment uploaded into their heads. Which of course only gets more people killed. None of this is real to them and they don't really care, hence the abandonment of all reason.

>>213850112 (OP)
That's not even a remotely plausible. If you believe it you're legitimately low IQ.

>>213850249
>In October 2021, Disclose.tv published an article titled "German court declares Corona curfew unconstitutional", which referred to a March 2020 curfew in Bavaria that was retroactively ruled unconstitutional by the State Court
literally what even is """misinformation""" here? wtf

>>213852083
Nigger I hate spending money propping up that retarded slav Zelenskij, but what the fuck else did you expect us to do when Russian mongoloids started sperging out while literally declaring what they were doing "a war against the West" and threatening with nuclear weapons every other week?

>>213852083
>the establishment uploaded into their heads
History books uploaded it in my heads, you brainwashed faggot.

>>213852022
Whatever you say, Wormwood.

>>213852169
The fucking lack of self awareness is solid comedy gold. Holy shit.

>>213852205
It's cute how you ignorant fucks think you're some enlightened scholars, lol.

>>213852148
Zelensky is not a Slav. Testing nuke capable weapons systems within decapitation range of Moscow and doing a ton of other shady shit is bound to provoke a reaction. I have to wonder if Putin actually let himself get jebaited like the fat drunk Churchill did to that Austrian painter and anti-smoking activist.

>>213852386
Yeah, Ukraine provoked innocent Ruskies, like Hungary in 1956 or Czechoslovakia in 1968. Those evil Western fascists and their perfidious schemes!

>>213852481
low effort faggot ass whatabout shit lmao

>>213852386
Oh yes, we were baiting you. That's why we lowered our defense spending to next to nothing and tied our entire energy supply chain to you. Because we wanted this. How fucking retarded are Russian apologists?

What happened in Russia this time?