Thread 213851052

>>213851052 (OP)
based heckler desu. grrm needs to be told to his face that he's gonna die and should hand over the reins to someone else

>>213851052 (OP)
Been waiting years for this to happen. He had it coming.

>>213851052 (OP)
>booed almost immediately
it's a legitimate question?

>>213851052 (OP)
>like fellow panelist Brandon Sanderson

Mi-Mi-Miya*sputters as he loses oxygen* MITSUBISHI-san, I am a VERY busy man, you must understand *eats* I am as of late working quite diligently on my newest book, The *fart* The WINDS of Winter, *sweats loudly* I have only so much time to devote to your little electronic amusement.*hacks up chicken bone* But what I find TRULY egregious, based on the material you have provided me, and *belches* based on your PREVIOUS work, is the complete lack of believable World-Building. In particulaaaaaaaarrrrrr*heart stops for 20 seconds* the complete LACK of any description of Lord Gwyn, who is a KING I suppose *snort* having ANY kind of discernible tax policy! His capital, Anal London I believe you so quaintly named it *chuckles* seems to be quite grandiose, aye? But how does he PAY for it all? Flying buttresses ah yes, great big knights patrolling around, who pays for THOSE? *urine stain slowly spreads on shorts* You've got to THINK about these things, man, or else I won't get any work done at all! *falls into diabetic coma*

>>213851169
there's other ways of asking that question without being an unhinged jackass

>>213851169
Why did you end a statement with a question mark?

>write a book
>it's loved by many
>write a couple more
>gets incredibly popular and made into a tv series
>huge expectations for new book
>it's increasingly complicated and time consuming
>have to rewrite because people hate the tv ending
>getting old
>mind declining
>stamina declining
>enthusiasm declining
>taunted about the book for the last few years of life
i would simply delete it

>>213851052 (OP)
I've heard GRRM was acting like an ass the entire panel.

>>213851052 (OP)
Dude made a fortune by scamming everyone into believing he was going to finish his story … the fact he still makes appearances in public instead of hiding somewhere in shame is astonishing and he deserves a lot more heckling than what he got in the op

Why would anyone defend him at this point? What are you defending? The right to not finish your series you started, leaving your many fans upset and angry you were too chickenshit to commit?

>>213851270
He's got a lot of moxie still going to these conventions knowing people only care about Winds and nothing will happen about it.

No, we have to defend the lazy millionaire that claimed he was better than Tolkien but can't even finish a story he started. How is he going to swim in his bathtub of gold coins if he gets ask such a basic question?

>>213851251
you forgot the bit where he planned a huge timeskip after storm of swords and was pretty deep into it but then gave up on it and instead released the two stinkers: feast for crows and dance with dragons

>>213851052 (OP)
You're not owed a book. If Martín doesn't want to deliver because he's not happy with his progress, or for any reason, it's his choice. You can read or not, but not make demands.

>>213851295
>fans upset and angry
fans are loser so that's quite based desu senpai

>>213851189
Credit where credit's due, Sanderson's pretty much the only fatass fantasy writer still finishing books.

>>213851344
Because none of them are good.

>>213851052 (OP)
I'd rather the book not exist than have Sanderson write it

>>213851234
I had to watch the video but don't think it's unhinged I think they're just sensitive pussies

>>213851368
Sanderson agrees with that and has said many times he won't do it, to be fair.

>>213851378
Anon, don't tell an old person they're about to die. That's basic common decency.

why not post the video, instead of an except of an article describing a video?

>>213851234
It wasn't unhinged, and it has been asked in more tactful, "respectful", minimilized ways. He just deflects and pushes an answer off saying "I'm working on it and totally making LOTS of progress!" Then years go by with nothing.

>>213851452
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_iuYR6OUAqY

>>213851465
>hey Martin, have you considered my feelings on not getting a full franchise after your demise?
Just read something else, for fuck's sake

>>213851407
He's a liar and strung his fans along for over a decade. That's far more undecent.

>>213851295
sure, why shouldn't he have that right?
Did he become a slave at some point?

>>213851537
oh fuck off, just read any other book series

>>213851407
I would never tell that to my grandma but I would tell it to a public figure who makes appearances to answer questions. You get one chance your whole life to say something to him, it should be real.

But seriously. What are the odds that he’ll
1. Finish and release the Winds of Winter
2. It’ll be good
3. Finish and release a Dream of Spring
4. It’ll be good
5. Finish the entire series, within those two books, and it’ll be good

>>213851626
0% to all.

>>213851052 (OP)

Does anyone have the video?

>>213851595
>Yeah, it'd be indecent to a family member, but it's fair game if it's a public figure who gets in the way of my content consumption
Nice set of values.

>>213851626
1%
0.75%
0%
0%
0%

>>213851626
Feels like some twisted demonic description of the Fermi paradox.

>>213851465
And you think you can get a better answer by telling someone they're gonna die next week?

>>213851189
Puke or Poop?

>>213851189
THE MORE SHE SHAT

She has to know it's not sustainable

>>213851169
George surrounded himself with yes men for years now, you can go "George let's be realistic here, your estate WILL get someone new to write your books for you because you just aren't going to finish them, you're just not, who would you have do it?" And everyone replies
"BOO! SHUT THE FUCK UP! YOU UNGRATEFUL PIECE OF SHIT HE OWES YOU NOTHING!"
"Shhhh Gorge, you're eternally young my master, hmmm yes." *Licks the dried cum off his beard.*

>>213851666
But if an inoffensive question offends someone that has nothing to do with my values.

>>213851340
>You're not owed a book

nice b8

People bought the books expecting a complete story with an ending. You advertise it as having 7 books total and the fat fuck has only written 5. It's textbook definition of a fraud.

>>213851221
only poster in this thread who really gets it
>>>/lit/
back to your dead board

>>213851316
He should have just went with the timeskip. Instead he got himself tied up in Mereen and got caught up trying to draw parallels to the Iraq War. That Merenese knot has been his bane for the last two decades, with Dany's main forces still being there, all these years later.

>>213851770
you bought an unfinished series from an elderly obese man. you knew the risks. if you want a finished story pick a different series, like harry potter

>>213851701
Its how we finally got my mum to make a will

>>213851548
You have the right to take a fat shit and then rub it all over your own face, id find it bizarre if anyone made it a point to project their own insecurity over criticism which is what other authors are obviously doing.

>>213851344
We're going to get long brooding Jon Snow about how shitty his childhood was. He's then going to get some new ice based powers after dying and then learn to tap into his targaryen heritage, combining his two splintered identities and thus gain the ability to create and control ice dragons. Sam will also betray him and join the others after ranting about how Jon Snow turned into a chad.

>>213851626

It'd be pretty funny if it turns out he actually finished both books years ago and is just waiting to die so they can both be published posthumously, just to fuck with everyone.

>>213851973
I'm sure in your head you made a good point

>>213852058
Just do your job, George.

It could've been worse. He could've been lead astray by video games and started to moeify his characters

>>213851052 (OP)
Why would anyone defend him?

>>213851501
>all the comments defending grrm and saying we all need a lesson in kindness
its been 14 fucking years

>>213851169
Why are you heckin ageist, anon? Maybe GRRM identifies as someone who's 42 and that's his truth. Do better.

>>213852134
>A bunch of people who never started anything and if they did, would never finish it, criticize someone who started something and got extremely far but couldn't finish it
It's honestly extremely pathetic.
It's also very reddit coded, like the NPC programming right now is hate george george bad george fat george didn't finish the books, george is a bad writer even though im very mad I can't read the rest of his story

Yeah, gurm hate is VERY cringe.

>>213852041
That feels like something his publishers would probably sue over

Reminder that fat fuck isn't just doing nothing all these years; he's intentionally not writing the Winds of Winter. He's an editor for a book series. He worked on Elden Ring, he's written other novels and novellas, etc.

>>213852209
You certainly sound like a raging faggot.

>>213851126
>>213851156
he made a blog post saying he's going to die soon, when someone else says it it's taboo for some reason

>>213852209
>who never started anything and if they did, would never finish it
The main problem with GRRM is he's honestly pretty productive with everything other than ASoIF. He publishes lore books, side stories executive produces tv shows, attends cons. He's just obviously given up on but refuses to acknowledge for some reason that he's never going back to what many people think is his magnum opus.

>the year is 2061
>GRRM is still alive, sustained by the 2029 legalized baby blood treatments
>"Wow, 50 YEARS SINCE A DANCE WITH DRAGONS. Oh my science, do you think we can get Winds soon Mr. Martin?!?!" asks the neo-soi boi
>GRRM flashes a wrys mirk
>"......Mayhaps......" he says smugly

>>213852311
he's made enough to get the full bryan Johnson treatment
Why the fuck is he still fat?

>>213852350
do you actually not understand that there's literally nothing he could write that would fix the current situation
the shows over and people hated the ending
what could he possibly write that would satisfy anyone?
Do you not get this? really?

Eh, I got sick of waiting many years ago but I also won't buy it if it ever does come out. If he finishes it next year are you still going to buy it but you'll be all pissy about it too?

>>213852010
would unironically still be better than the way the show ended

>>213852209
It's 2025, a free chatgpt account can write 10000 words a day
He's legit retarded and these authors should all be mocked in public
>But le art and le difficulty
Shut the fuck up and write fatman

>>213851052 (OP)
>>213851626
He could live another 20-25 years or more. If someone teaches him how to use LLMs to organise his writing and help him remember things it will probably be done fairly quick. Don't worry about it he's got this in the bag

>>213852375
As someone who has lost 100 pounds and gotten in shape, the benefits of being healthy over enjoying food are not even remotely close to worth it
>you can.. live a few more years as an old person on nightmare mode!
wow great amazing thank you, all it costs me is the one pleasure in life
If you're not fat maybe you don't get enjoying food as much as we do, but it's amazing. Fucking amazing. Makes life worth living
I have DONE THE WORK and given it up and lost the weight, and it was THE MOST RETARDED POINTLESS THING IVE EVER DONE.

>>213851295
Yep this reminds me of a certain band who took 13 years to produce a record, fanbase also full of faggots defending this for some reason, but never considering the fans who died and never got to hear it the artist thought it wasn't 'good enough' to release

>>213852286
>he's written other novels and novellas
He did?
Anyway, the fat fuck should just come out and say he has a bad case of writer's block or that what he wrote is not on par with the previous books and he'd rather scrap it and rewrote the new book because he doesn't want to jut make money and the fans deserve better. I would respect that way more than the whole 'I'm writing and it's progressing, it's almost finished' he's been doing for 14 fucking years.

I already read the other fantasy series. Now I just want to verbally abuse this butterball turkey.

>>213852438
>>213852406
>they think the problem is getting words on paper
holy fucking dipshit retardation
>just use chatgpt bro
actual fucking brown skinned indians, don't u-turn near me please

>>213851169
"Hey Grandpa Tubby, you're gonna croak soon. Where's our Fantasy Book?"
It's a boring question prefaced with a rude comment. If you think that's how you should talk to people you gotta stop listening to nutjob podcasters.

>George was telling a story of how smart a child he was that he knew Jesus didn't exist at 8 years old and how stupid Christians are. This was obviously directed at Sanderson who stared down and his face got a little red. I don't blame him
>Brandon got asked a question about hard magic systems and how he creates them. George jumped in and went on a ten minute rant about how hard magic systems are dumb, he hates them, no one wants to read them, and you're a questionable author if you write them.
>Brandon's successful business (Dragonsteel) and kickstarters got brought up a couple times and George got all worked up. Said authors shouldn't be expected to do social media or do anything other than write. And also said some things like "just because someone does a kickstarter doesn't mean they can write or that the book is worth reading"
>George directly asked Brandon, "you're Mormon right? How do you deal with that?" And it came across with a really blunt and snarky tone. This was a few questions after he said Christians were stupid and Jesus was make believe.
Copied from lit. I don't even like Sanderson but GRRM doesn't deserve any sympathy when he was acting like an ass himself

>>213852387
>what could he possibly write that would satisfy anyone?
Make the ending less retarded or at least explain how it ends up that way better than 2 hacks who were rushing that shit out as fast as they could to go play with Star Wars?

What is are the ASOIAF books about? I don't mean a plot summary, I mean what are the overarching themes? What is the message?

>>213852494
"goes to a panel for fantasy authors"
"cries about being asked about authoring fantasy"

>>213852495
The jewishness always comes out in full force in their twilight years.

>>213852438
>GRRM using LLMs
Bruh, he's still writing on a DOS machine with WordStar. Hell will freeze over before he touches an LLM.

>>213851221
Game of thrones was a successful tv show,asshole.

>>213852350
The public's abject rejection of the ending broke him. You can say the TV rushed things, gave everyone teleporters, left out or merged multiple characters, and what not, but I still think the broad strokes of the TV show ending were what GRRM had in his head for decades. And so when people said it sucked, it killed all his motivation to finish. He could either plow through and grind out and ending to his series he knows people don't really care for or he could do something even worse in his mind which is rewrite the ending he had been thinking about and loved for decades.

That man is a legend. We need more legends.

>>213852507
For TWOW? There are 3 major fan theories that form the bulk of the grand events in that book (northern conspiracy + night lamp, euron's apocalypse and the Dany + fAegon one), pretty much all fans agree and approve, its all kino stuff. All he had to do was make it real. ADOS is the real challenge.

>>213852494
>"Hey Grandpa Tubby, you're gonna croak soon. Where's our Fantasy Book?"
They should've asked it this way. People would've respected the confidence more than the sideways way of asking it for sure.

>>213851798
This is the weirdest of it. That shit needed to be wrapped up in one book. Now in winds, it all needs to get wrapped up, and then dany needs to go to westeros, her grand invasion will seem paltry compared to aegon and eurons, and she still has to meet jon snow, she hasnt even MET him, and then she has to fall in love with the guy. I dunno how you write all that without it sucking big time

>>213851283
he made a fortune because he had written a story
dude doesn't owe anyone anything

>>213852526
This is ultimately the culmination of Internet Boomer discourse.
People treat any guy over 70 like they're gonna die soon. Like outside of being overweight he seems perfectly healthy, he's going to these fan cons and answering questions.

>>213852521
Anticlimax written for the express purpose of being the opposite of what you were expecting.

>>213852652
He wrote the first 2/3 of a story. But people like you have learned to be satisfied with less.

>>213852521
It's just nihilism and random events happening with characters killed off for shock value.

>>213852653
dude doesn't exactly come across as a paragon of health

>>213852621
>it's okay to be an asshole because that person has money
eh, nah.
I don't think you'd tolerate people being an asshole to you if you ever became successful, luckily you'll never have to worry about that.

>>213852521
Taxes. You see, Tolkien wrote about grand themes like divine right, legacy, and the cruelty of evil. Martin writes about taxes.

>>213852653
>aside from his weight, this degenerate fetishist who likes writing about incest, rape, and scat seems perfectly healthy

>>213852693
If Donald Trump is a Paragon of Health (which is a proven FACT) George RR Martin is up there with him as the only thing he lacks is that healthy orange glow.

>>213852708
Next it'll be the tail tax, the rats must pay their share

>>213852700
NTA
Retarded basedjak tier bootlicker nigger comment, I'd tell you to sodomize yourself to death, but you will eventually with your boyfriend.

>>213851234
Martin is a jackass for fucking over fans like the fat sellout he is.

His last book was 14 YEARS AGO. If you are seriously defending the laziest man in writing for not finishing a single story in a decade +, then I know everything I need to know about you.

>>213852728
>>213852729
Same thing, basically

>>213851052 (OP)
George was being a dick to Sanderson so he deserves the mistreatment.

he writes about death and old age so much, why does he get triggered about people pointing his own death to him?

>>213852592
damn i think that's it

>>213852010
kino

>>213852773
>>213852495
Is this the boomer mentality? He did a panel with Stephen King a while back and he was buttering him up like there was no tomorrow.

>>213852708
To be fair empires are more built on taxes than magic Jesus powers.

>>213852653
>People treat any guy over 70 like they're gonna die soon
I mean he's 77 next month and hasn't published an ASoIF book in 14 years. The odds don't look good.

>>213852653
>People treat any guy over 70 like they're gonna die soon
anon he's fucking 76, define soon, and then compare it to the time it seemingly takes him to put out a book now. Also being morbidly obese is just about the single worst thing for your overall health especially when you're that old

>>213852488
Screech harder bitch, it's literally trained on all his books
>The snow fell thick upon Winterfell, each flake a small death drifting down from an iron sky. Jon Snow stood atop the battlements, watching the white curtain descend upon the world, and wondered if spring was merely a tale told to children. The cold had settled deep in his bones, deeper than any fire could reach, and Ghost padded silently beside him, the direwolf's breath misting in the frigid air.
>Below in the courtyard, men moved like shadows through the gathering dusk, their cloaks crusted with ice, their words lost to the keening wind. The castle that had once rung with the laughter of Stark children now echoed only with the scrape of steel and the muttered prayers of those who still believed the gods were listening. Jon flexed his sword hand, feeling the old wounds ache. The dead were coming, and all the oaths in the world would not stop them.

>>213851052 (OP)
>tell truth
>get booed
Amerigolem moment. Dude is 76 and obese. His heart can explode any second.

>>213851052 (OP)
I just want him to die at this point. It’s clear that he’s got nothing left in the tank, ans he’s actively holding back story progression just by existing.

>>213852495
I don't like Brandon Sanderson, nor do I hate him, I've never so much as cracked one of his books. This just seems unnecessary, and crass, and rude. I mean, Martin must know these are things this man is reputed for writing, liking, and propagating. Why be this way?

>>213852708
>Martin writes about taxes.
I only really watched the show but the economies in this books seem retarded. Banks are more powerful than medieval kings (they're not see how the War of the Roses brought down the Medici) and gold mines never run out.

>>213852495
What a disrespectful fat fuck, he really thinks he's the Cormac McCarthy of pulp fiction.

>>213851209
Why do all of Anal London's buildings have huge GAPING bottomless pits around them?

>>213852879
you sound exactly like a harry potter fan trying to forget j.k rowling exists

>>213852893
>gold mines never run out
They do, retard. It's a big plot point that the Lannistets are hiding that their gold mine is dry

>>213852815
To be fair, Martin is an idiot and his books will be forgotten when he dies.

>>213852010
>Five years ago. Jon Snow, Castle Black.
>"I TOLD YOU NOT TO TAKE THE COOKIE FROM THE COOKIE JAR YOU LITTLE BASTARD!" Catelyn screamed screamingly at him. "THOSE ARE RESERVED FOR MY CHILDREN."
>"Mother I'm sorry! I'll never do it aga-"
>Catelyn slapped him before he could finish his apology, hard enough to draw blood. "I TOLD YOU NEVER TO CALL ME MOTHER."
>Something snapped within him then. Something that can never be made whole again. "Yes Lady Catelyn. I understand."

>>213852495
>Said authors shouldn't be expected to do social media or do anything other than write. And also said some things like "just because someone does a kickstarter doesn't mean they can write or that the book is worth reading"
OH REALLY GEORGE?! Are you SURE?! For someone who has a blog and wrote more on it in the past 10 years than writing Winds are you CERTAIN?!

>>213851872
>from an elderly obese man
The first book came out in 1996 when he was 48 and only chubby. People don't realise just how long he has been (not) doing this series.

>>213851316
AFFC is the best book and you were filtered. How anyone can say it's a stinker when it's got the Cersei chapters is beyond me.

>>213852653
>outside of being overweight he seems perfectly healthy

>>213852897
oh god im gonna froom

I don't even remember the fucking story. It's been more than a decade, are you seriously expecting me to keep 200+ characters saga in my memory for so long? If fatfuck finally got his shit together I'd have to re-read the fucking shit again.

>>213851316
I haven’t read those books since the year gap between season 3 and 4 of GoT, but I just remember them being 2000 pages of boring meandering, with little to nothing of note actually happening.

Meanwhile, Storm of Swords was a page-turner. There was one day where literally all I did from when I woke up to when I went to sleep was sit on my balcony and read it.

Hot take: a story doesn't mean anything if it doesn't conclude, if the characters don't achieve catharsis and the thematic elements aren't delivered in full. I have not started GoT and never will, because it is an incomplete story. Feel bad for the people who did though.

>>213852149
In reality it's been longer than 14 years, AFFC and ADWD are two halves of one book, so he hasn't actually released anew book since 2005, 20 years ago, and he hasn't released an actual whole completed book since 2000, 25 years ago.

>>213852950
He actually fell off immediately after he decided to expand it. The original plan was 3 books. He did 3 books all within 2-3 years of each other. He was on track, until he let himself get distracted and wanted to expand the War of Five Kings. His editor had to talk him down from 11 books, which is fucking hilarious in retrospect. He clearly had a moment of delusion and severe autism, let it get the better of him, and it ruined him.

If he'd stick to his original plan, he'd have been done around 1999, celebrated and could've moved on. He probably regrets this more than anything else in his entire life.

>>213852495
Sanderson's too polite. Bakker would probably give george a wedgie if he went off about power systems in front of him. Or maybe sneak into his house and lobotomize him.

>>213853001
that's not a hot take at all. it's pretty much hollywood in a nutshell

>>213852495
What a massive cunt.
Sanderson apologies profusely to his fans when once his books ended up delayed by a month.
It clear why he makes Grrm seethe and it's nothing to do with religion

>>213852495
It's insane how he hasn't just fucked off to some Greek island and lived off of his fortune. He keeps doing these appearances just to be an asshole to everyone. He'd have more goodwill if he just disappeared.

>>213851340
>Make things
>People respond to things, making you rich in the process
>Promise two more things
>People start to grow impatient after nearly 15 years of being strung along
>”What, you actually expected those things that you were promised? How entitled are you?”

>>213852925
Ah yes how could I forget Tywins private conversation that the most productive gold mine in history has run dry and its not been noticed. Dumb for different reasons.

>>213852995
>There was one day where literally all I did from when I woke up to when I went to sleep was sit on my balcony and read it.
relateable. i did the same in college back in 2015

>>213853017
He was seething not too long ago about Gene Wolfe being able to write his whole series beforehand so it's much more holistic with no mission creep, and then release it piece by piece.

>degenerate godless hippie boomer writes about muh climate change, religion is le bad, war is le bad, nihilism lmao

Truly the Tolkien of our times.

>>213851052 (OP)
Cults and fandoms are always mega cringe

>>213853029
Second Apocalypse has a pretty well-defined magic system

>>213851052 (OP)
WHAT ABOUT WILD CARDS?!

>>213853042
He's a narcissist, he needs the adoration of people to validate his "genius". If he gets money and respect for not delivering books, why would he suddenly start writing? That's why he talks down to his younger contemporaries who actually, y'know, WRITE.

You guys been reading anything cool lately?

>>213853080
I haven't read much gene wolfe and I am not a literary expert, but it's funny to even imagine these two people being compared. What little ive read of wolfe wastes so little time, and paints so intricate a picture in such a small number of pages, I can't imagine Martin sincerely thinks he's even half as talented.

>>213853127
He is absolutely fuming that due to the extended gaps between publications the fandom was able to likely figure out where the plot was going and how certain events would play out and he probably decided to scrap whole sections out of spite

>>213853161
Ive been trying to get back into genreshit and schlocky fantasy series I would've loved as a boy.
I recently read The Devils, it's alright. I wouldn't call it great, but it entertained me.

>>213853182
Even putting aside different writing styles and qualities I think at the time of writing the New Sun series (remember, in its completeness) Wolfe was working a normal job as an engineer while also being a husband and raising kids. Martin doesn't have anything to do other than write and he's still bemoaning that Wolfe apparently had it easier. Embarrassing.

Why won't he ask ChatGPT to write the two books?

>>213853205
>The Devils
I tried getting into that but the humor was too cute for its own good. Really laid on thick compared to Abercrombie's other novels.

Just forget this fat idiot. Joe Abercrombie (First Law, Age of Madness) is a billion times better. He's also young and finishes all his series, on top of not spending his day doing stupid snarky political/footbal comentary.

>>213853161
i read captain scott's antarctic journal recently, the one he wrote while he was on his fatal journey to be the first to the north pole. pretty harrowing how stoic that dude was. the final part where he realises the norwegians beat him to it is heartbreaking, to say nothing of him and all his comrades dying on the way back

Nerds really are the most entitled people on earth.
We need a revenge of the Jocks.

>>213853369
>north
south, goddamit

>>213852495
>>213852537
>He is predominantly of Irish descent; a DNA test on the series Finding Your Roots showed him to be 53.6% "British and Irish", 22.4% Ashkenazi Jewish, and 15.6% "Broadly Northwestern European".

>>213853205
>>213853341

I havent read The Devils yet, is it also fantasy? I remember he said a few months ago it was going to be a modern setting so i was skeptical. The First Law universe was already amazing, there wasant any need to write a new one

>>213853034
>creating a beloved tv series and ending it so badly people hate the entire work in retrospect
should be illegal

>>213852959
Nah, it sucks and could easily have been 5% as long.

>>213853429
Yeah, it's basically The Dirty Dozen but with a number of fantasy monsters. The setting is some alternate medieval Europe.

>>213853161
Yup, I got an advanced review copy for this. Pretty stoked.

>>213852112
>tfw still mad

GODDAMMIT!!! THIS WAS THE LAST MIURA I HAAAAAAD!!!

>>213852700
It's a perfectly reasonable question, yeah the guy could have tried to word it with a bit more tact but nerd autists are going to nerd autists. It's been 14 years since A Dance With Dragons, GRRM is 76 and he's not looking good. He doesn't have 14 more years in him, that's for sure.
It's honestly disgusting everyone else there acted so shocked that someone dared to ask a not-fluff or bootlicking question and coddled poor GRRM like he was a baby, bunch of redditor söyfags.

>>213853342
>shit fuck. Piss shit fuck cunt blood mud cunt fuck.

>>213851052 (OP)
>"This is a question for Mr Martin: Why are you such a lazy fat fuck? Finish your book you twat or let someone else do it before you die."
Seems like a reasonable request

>>213853491
happened for Guin Saga as well. scifi and fantasy get the worst of it because they are long running

>>213851126
Or just fucking finish. If the fatso puts his mind to it he could be done in a years. Useless fat faggot.

>>213853429
It's an alternate medieval Europe. Christ was a woman and broken upon a wheel rather than crucified, magic is real, elves are real and cannibal savages from the East, Carthage defeated Rome and then collapsed into hell when they tried to summon demons, which exist.

>>213853542
Is Guin Saga even translated to English? I heard there's a gorillion volumes published in the series

>>213853606

Shit, that actualy sounds awesome.

>>213853531
>"It's alright, I'm sure that's on a lot of people's minds and I appreciate the concern. I do want to reassure everyone that I have a plan in place to see that the series is concluded regardless of..."
would have been wild

>>213851501
...that's absolutely fucking nothing. she even comes off good-humoured about it, not like some angry fangirl or unaware autist.

>>213853617
dunno. I was surprised to learn that there's a bunch of English GraphicAudio adaptations of of Vampire Hunter D though. They usually only target the biggest franchises because of how expensive they are to produce.

>>213851052 (OP)
they are such shit books, who cares

>>213851052 (OP)
Could’ve finished the book by now.

>>213853464
>>213853606

I just want a book where Bayaz gets fucked in the ass in the end

>>213851189
very unfortunate photo

>>213851237
>What is inflection

>>213852634
So much this.

>Sorry to trouble you good sir but it has come to my attention that you are an enormous tub of shit who will likely expire by the end of the week. In light of these events I must insist that you finish the book immediately. But don't worry, these friendly MOSSAD snipers are guaranteed to keep you highly motivated until the task is complete.

>>213853670
The lore and backstory of their world is better than the immediate story which is basically The Suicide Squad. The cast is likable enough if you're into that style of grungy comedic horror (which it is full of) but the lore is pretty close to horror. Demons are, well, demonic, magic exists but it's typically disturbing or portrayed as some kind of violation (necromancy, mind control, forced body horror transformations, etc).
There's a -bit- of that gene wolfe sentiment where the writer just lets you figure shit out yourself. It keeps referring to crucifixes and it took me a few chapters to realize it wasn't a cross as the characters involved with the priesthood naturally discuss their faith.

>>213853341
>the humor was too cute for its own good. Really laid on thick compared to Abercrombie's other novels.
Exactly the problem I had. I read all of The First Law ~5 years ago and mostly loved it, but the humour in this was absolutely insufferable, I dropped it like 10 pages in. I don't exactly know if I've changed since or if the writing is truly worse.

>>213853756

Before you even posted i bought it on audible. Listening to The Heroes read by steven pinker while working was one of the best experiences of my life.

friendly reminder he literally said this

>>213853873

steven pacey*

>>213853964
You had me worried there for a second

>>213853907
These excuses are insane.
Also, it's not like his other projects have any groundbreaking writing either. Elden Ring was just a pastiche of Norse mythology.

>>213853996
>Elden Ring
marketing ploy, nothing else

>>213852652
FUCK THAT
FUCK HIM AND FUCK YOU
DON'T START WHAT YOU CAN'T FINISH

>>213853907
who the fuck calls his employees "minions"? dude is an egomaniac.

>>213851344
Sure, but he's only able to write them out so quickly because he doesn't think about his writing. He's like chatgpt if it was turned into a human

>>213852521
Subverting expectations and torture porn. Apparently one of the main characters shits themselves for an entire chapter. I must have blocked that part out but I believe it.

>>213852959
>AFFC is the best book
My nigga.

>>213852443
Fuck you bitch I lost 170lbs and it's the greatest thing I ever did. I can do whatever the fuck I want now and don't have to truffle shuffle and get tired all the fucking time. I can eat whatever the fuck I want but in normal healthy portions. Everyone else is the slow fat ass now I am a fucking god.

>>213854109
The thing is, the whole "subverting expectations" has itself become a meme, maybe it had punch in the 90s with the state of fantasy fiction up until that point but in the 2020s norms and understandings within fiction has changed so it's become incredibly limp.

His legacy has only been completed in the form of Crusader Kings 2 and Mount & Blade mods.

>>213853907
Dude abandoned his book series to work on Elden Ring and then complains he has no time because of too much travel, what a lame ass excuse

>>213854289
He also said he couldn't write because of DRUMPF and the war

>>213851221
You don't tell George Lucas fags to go to /sci/

>>213854401
What the fuck does Star Wars have to do with Science & Math?

>>213852652
ywnbaw

>>213853996
He barely wrote elden ring, he provided approximately 3 or so pages of lore. He basically wrote some bullshit on a napkin and let Miyazaki do the rest.

>>213853907
Why doesn't he just tell them to stop bothering him so he can focus on writing instead of fucking prostitutes in Dubai 24/7?

>>213851584
Not how accountability works, troon.

>>213854435
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Star Wars

>>213851723
THE MORE THEY DRANK.

>>213853907
>>213854454
>grrm fucked barely-legal instagram thots in dubai
unsettling imagery

High IQ take: fatso knows he cannot satisfyingly finish the series so he wants to die before doing so, not sullying his reputation as a writer by fucking it up but in fact having his death and the lasting desire for an ending add to it. This is why it seems it takes him so long, he's not even working on it

>>213851626
20% for 1, and 0% for the rest

>>213853426
22.4% is just barely low enough to dodge going to the hapy fun camps with swimming pools, brothels, and wooden doors on the delousing chambers, I believe 25% was the threshold

>>213854548
This, we are never getting an ending.

>>213854548
HBO did him a solid by turning GoT show into a steaming pile of dogshit. All Fatman has to do is write something slightly less awful and fans would gobble it up with praise

>>213852112
At least he had the decency to die

>>213851234
>>213852494
If you're dealing with someone who is repeatedly and continually evasive, you have to be very direct with them. Honestly I'm suspicious that HBO hasn't threatened him with some kind of financial fallout if he writes a way better ending that retcons their show, and if that's the case, it needs to come out

>>213854546
he also casting couched the girl who played Shae

>>213851872
Wouldn't hold up as a defense in court.

>>213853907
So what's his excuse for not finishing the book during the Pandemic?

You know the time when you couldn't travel or meet up with people.

>>213853907
>I don't write when I travel.
>I don't write in hotel rooms.
>I don't write on airplanes.

>>213854638
He's absolutely not fucking anyone lol

>>213854548
>>213854605
this is why i don't feel guilty about mocking him. if i knew he was working i would respect him more.

>>213854661
you think his "fat pink mast" no longer works?

>>213853907
Man, if only there was almost a whole year where everybody more or less had to stay inside their homes, social distancing from everyone else..

>>213851817
kino

>>213854658
>When do you write?
>Never

>>213854688
He was crying because all his fat old friends were dying

>>213852058
Kek what a weak, gay retort. What are you, seven?

>>213853907
You can't go back. The environment that produced the mindset that produced books is no longer there.

>>213854581
He'd be a 2nd degree mutt, but his children would be fine

Marcel Proust wrote Remembrance of Things Past over the course of 14 years.
Kinghts Who Say Fuck Vol.1 will celebrate its 30th anniversary in a year

>>213854661
grrm fucks summer island princesses

Fuck, even the Witcher guy is writing another book and he lost his son.

>>213851052 (OP)
This is why you can't trust porkers. Right now he's probably watching this thread and shoveling ham into his face.

GET BACK TO WORK BRAPCAKE

>>213854773
Damn George, leave some Myrish swamps for the rest of us

>>213854763
That quote is the epitome of babby's first realization but I suppose it's something everyone goes through.

>>213854677
that's not his dick that's a guy holding up a thumb for him

Lets be real, give or take 10 years AI will be writing better novels than humans. You could literally just prompt "new ASOIAF book where Daenerys has sex with her dragons" and have a shakespearean masterpiece generated for you in seconds.

>>213851126
The guys not even a heckler he’s a customer dissatisfied with the quality of the product presented and wants to know when they’re going to try again

I don't mind if he wants to give up on his gay little pedo rape books but the problem I have with him is he embraces and enjoys being the superstar author but can't be fucked to actually deliver on it anymore.
Then he has the gall to whine and moan about people asking him to finish the books and tries to frame it as abusive, bro if you don't like it, you can stop going to cons, on late night shows, blogging about your dogshit politics, etc. If you don't want to be a superstar author, you can stop any time (and you clearly already have since you don't write anymore.)

>>213851126
>>213851169
>>213851156
>>213852311
>>213853558
>>213854917
you people genuinely deserve an ass beating if you think that behavior is even slightly acceptable. i understand this is 4chan and you guys have no social skills, and think you're being funny right now. but regardless, you deserve your teeth knocked out.

>>213854948
Overpromising and underdelivering is a shameful practice for anyone to commit to and it deserves scorn.

>>213852443
ozempic changed all that you fat fuck. don't give me your deluded finite willpower bullshit

>>213854961
Nah. GRRM is a dishonest faggot who is too afraid and/or insecure to admit that he just doesn't want to write ASOIAF anymore.

If you sell people an incomplete product in pieces, they have moral, ethical, and legal right to demand that product or get a refund when the product isn't delivered on time. People purchased the previous entries in the series assuming that they will receive the conclusion at reasonable time frame. As it never happened, GRRM is a criminal and should be prosecuted.

>>213851311
So much this. I don't know how anyone even likes GoT. Never read the books, but the show was utter shit.

>>213854961
GRRM here
Give me that donut

>>213854636
>I'm suspicious that HBO hasn't threatened him with some kind of financial fallout if he writes a way better ending that retcons their show
Are you retarded? Please outline the argument you would bring before a judge
>Your honor... he wrote the ending of his book better than the ending of our show... h-he owes us!

>>213854961
And you’re a bonafide faggot if you think grrm doesn’t deserve worse for stringing his fans along

>>213854688
That was probably even worse for him because he probably set up ways for people to bother him remotely while at home. Forever destroying his solitude.

Only faggot snowflakes say toxic

>>213854991
Overpromising+underdelivering is just good business, sad to say. My complaint is he wants to have his cake and eat it too (or in his case, 100 fucking cakes that fatfuck.) He wants to be the hotshot in the spotlight author but he doesn't FUCKING write anything and hasn't in years.
Imagine an athlete who hasn't played in a decade, or an actor who hasn't had a role in a decade, or a rap artist who hasn't dropped an album or performed in a decade, imagine any of them going around doing fan meet and greets, being the guest of honor at cons, blogging about their politics like anyone cares, trying to get paid gigs.
Shut the fuck up and get back to work you entitled fat prick. Or better yet, since we know he won't, do something productive like your contemporaries and make a youtube channel with writing tips or promote someone else you fat fuck. You don't deserve to be the center of attention anymore, you're reaping a benefit you've long since stopped sowing.
GRRM is a clear narcissist.

>>213853907
*gets locked into his mcmansion for four years and makes no progress*

>>213851234
Sorry bitch nigger, if everyone confronted their own mortality on a daily basis every asshole would do something. That fat fuck thinks he's gonna live forever.

Just take Kentaro Miura for example and how that left the entire fanbase.

>>213853054
This. Too many people want us to accept laziness and mediocrity.

>>213854688
he made progress during covid years since he couldn't work on any TV projects or go to conventions
he went from saying that 200 pages are completed before pandemic to 300 pages after, no progress since then obviously

>>213851817
In terms of cinematography and delivery, no Q&A has ever topped this one

>>213854961
Fuck faggot frog posters.
G'day

>>213851340
>You're not owed a book.

Correct. I'm owed two.

>>213851052 (OP)
Here's the video
https://youtu.be/rCiQWbjPtYI?si=SfgNvwqdBgL10OYE&t=7744

and another video of the creature who asked the question

https://youtube.com/shorts/KdnS-0DYRJg?si=sXTLvC9uTgzcdn-_

>GRRM was rude the entire panel.
>People only focusing on this fan being rude.

>>213854961
>violence is a legitimate response to a legitimate statement
Fuck you nigga

So people probably don't remember it because it was so long ago, but when Feast of Crows came out, fans absolutely hated it and shitted on it. I think while all the other books were at 4.5 stars on Amazon it was sitting at 3 stars. Dance of Dragons had an even worse rating, I remember it at like 2.5 stars on Amazon when it came out. So most book readers that were fans and actually followed the series before HBO bashed GRRM and hated those 2 books. If you use wayback machine you can actually see how much people hated both of those books.

Then slowly over time as the normies got into Game of Thrones on HBO they pumped up the reviews and now it's like both were always loved by all the "fans". It's weird.

>>213855728
Never read ASOIAF, what happened in those books?

>>213854961
15 years in the can, I wanted the final book
I compromised
I read a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms instead. Wouldn't rec

>>213854961
>frogposting fag

>>213855756
A lot of meandering and filler.

>>213855756
Almost nothing. Gurm hasn't progressed the plot in 25 years

The show ending was his ending, it's too obvious.

>>213852010
Sanderson already said he's not finishing A Song of Shat and Drank even if fatso asks him to

>>213855756
He started going full retard on POV characters, switched POVs for major plotlines, some were written and went literally nowhere after hundreds of pages, very little of significance happens in AFFC/Dance relative to the first 3. By the time the third book is over the introduction to this world and the war of 5 kings is largely concluded and Dany is already conquering 2/3 of the planet, the next 2 books spend 2000 pages but by comparison very little progresses or changes. If he'd actually release another book, this wouldn't have been that big of a problem. If he'd stuck to releasing one every two years or so it'd just be accepted as the cooling period between the story's major parts. As it is it is a lazy and meandering epilogue to a half finished series that ends badly for all the people anyone ever cared about.

>>213855756
The most divisive thing is they started splitting narratives in book 4 because George had sprawled the story so much and written himself into so many corners, he couldn't follow all the characters. So like most of the main characters folks had been following had ZERO POV chapters in Book 4 and people were pissed because of the way Book 3 was left off.

Bran, Jon Snow, Daenerys, Davos, Tyrion all had zero chapters and a bunch of bit characters nobody gave a shit about got POV chapters.

>>213851340
>Martín

>>213854207
This might be another reason why fatty won't work on it anymore. His whole story telling style has become passe.

>>213854636
>Honestly I'm suspicious that HBO hasn't threatened him with some kind of financial fallout if he writes a way better ending that retcons their show
If anything, it's the opposite. HBO knows people hated the ending. They cancelled the Jon Snow spinoff because they're planning on remaking the entire show in 10 years. They want a good ending to adapt before that happens.

>>213852995
>>213853076
>reading modern fiction
lmao

>>213851052 (OP)
I thought this guy already died.
Anyway, what's even the point? GoT was finished the way it was.

>>213855984
kek

>>213854435
retard faggot blown the fuck out!

>>213856001
Now subverting expectations would be genuine sincerity

>>213854961
Gentlemen I do hereby suggest we all gang rape this poster.
All in favor?

>>213856181
AGREED

>>213853907
>dubai found grrm squatting over an e-thot

>>213856144
That's why the LotR novels seem to be having a recent moment

>>213852443
haha fatty

>>213852149
Me on the left

>>213851052 (OP)
>>213856370
Tell me about it! Whenever I see Martin all I can think of is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6irJyofrrOc

>>213856370
Dangerously based

>>213856370
roast his ass, king

>>213852913
Rowling at least finished her books.

>>213851234
Martin was acting like a jackass to Sanderson the whole time there. The fat fuck deserved it.

>>213854961
He is a millionaire thanks to everyone who bought his slop, he owes them everything and then some. Without them he would not be able to afford his fatfuck medicines

>>213852495
>Said authors shouldn't be expected to do social media or do anything other than write.
How can this retard say this with a straight face?

>>213851189
This pic makes no sense unless the cheerleaders aren't wearing panties

>>213851872
I bought the books from a middle aged fat man. The first three books took two years each, how was I to know he'd died before book 6?

>>213856351
It's also just a more timeless attitude to have, especially for something like fantasy. Tolkien is long dead but his books are still popular decades later, and the movies mostly stuck the landing (Hobbit was a mess though). Martin is still alive but even say he bashes out the last 2 (lol) in the next couple of years and they're of decent enough quality will they have the same staying power? And when the show was rather poor in its final delivery.

>GRRM: tax policy is incredibly important in a fantasy setting; I'll make a world where the monetary system runs through all powerful jews who control a bank from across the sea and this has large implications when it comes to the power dynamics of Westeros
>Rowling: what if wizards' currency was divided into prime numbers wouldn't that be silly lmao

>>213856776
It can leak out the sides. Panties, and the bloomers cheerleaders wear over them, aren't meant to be filled up with anything.

He stole so much material from Tad Williams

>>213856897
qrd?

>>213856843
>GRRM: trans rights are human rights
>Rowling: lol, lmao even

>>213851052 (OP)
lol. grrm will never finish, told y'all. his estate might release some shit after y'all are elderly or dead, oh we found our great grand parents old pieces of his "work" now pay us a lot for its usage.
no closure, he's just a wannabe Tolkien with no edge or actual intelligence.

>>213851237
Because he's gay. It's like the lambda symbol.

>>213856843
Rowling really did shitpost half of wizard lore. Incredibly based

>>213856964
What estate does he have I wonder seeing as he has no children. Some niece or nephew?

>>213857037
If I'm inheriting whatever from fatfuck, I'm 100% faking endless "unpublished" writings for that easy money.

Audience was just mad because the question was about what happens when Martin dies and opens with "You're not gonna be around much longer".
I was hoping it was gonna be something like "Why haven't you finished your fucking book, fatass?" That would've gotten thunderous applause.

Petition to have Martin followed around at all times by a professional tuba player.

>>213856925
The Dragonbone Chair trilogy has a lot of bits that are pretty much directly lifted into asoiaf.
>massive civil war in medieval empire
>different kingdoms being reflections of European counterparts
>red comet in the sky upon new king's coronation
>character has a massive wolf companion
>supernatural beings in the frozen north arriving to conquer the world; they bring an endless winter that slowly kills off the populace

>>213857209
tbf those are all incredibly generic historical and fantastical tropes

>>213857237
Difference it that one's finished and George's isn't.

>>213852537
cause they're too old and dusty to makeup new bullshit to excuse their lies lol. they just get deranged and demented.

What kind of person reads Sanderson? Really.

>>213853426
sooo..... jew.

>>213857237
George himself listed it as a huge influence, if not his primary influence, of his own books. He's flat-out admitted he owes the existence of his unfinished slop on Tad's Memory trilogy.

>>213854760
yes never blame the children for the sins of the father

>>213854773
not a good thing anon.

No one is entitled to “common decency” or respect. It’s ok to be an asshole to people you don’t like

>>213856482
true I can't fault this. while they were rushed out and had continuity errors and plot holes, true the story was concluded.

>>213855926
you are a fucking retard

>>213857037
maybe, probably has a bastard kid or two, half on his noteable characters are bastards, most likely because his family does the same shit, breeding bastards of bastards.

>>213857098
definitely. me too, every year or two id claim to have "found" more hidden pages and manuscripts

>>213857753
Cope

>>213854961
you wouldn't do shit faggot