Thread 213858958

It's just rehashing the well-known "Star Wars isn't special anymore" truth, which we all know, plus he goes on a long rant about how THE FUCKING ACOLYTE is underrated and HE WANTS MORE?!? They also trot out Plinkett just to drum up some interest in their tired channel. These guys jumped the shark a long time ago.

>>213858958 (OP)
>he goes on a long rant about how THE FUCKING ACOLYTE is underrated and HE WANTS MORE?!?
It was a little bit ironic. He was using the prequelfag's arguments against them.

>>213858998
I think Mike's mindset is "All Star Wars is schlock, so give me more schlock." Mike was right about Andor though. Andor might be brilliant, but it isn't Star Wars.

'ate RLM
'ate Disney Star Wars
Simple as

your inceltears are delicious

>>213860005
Everyone is single nowadays. The incel threat doesn't work anymore.

>mods didn't sticky
smdh

>>213860099
The jannies actively try to suppress criticism of their beloved RLM.

>>213858958 (OP)
Oh hey, RLM glazing Disney Wars again.

>>213860072
Sure thing, incel.

>>213860600
RIP :(

>>213858958 (OP)
How come they haven't done fantastic 4 lol

>>213860600
Another modern Plinkett video, and thus another example of them refusing to carry on the serial rapist gag from when they were new. No jokes about the failure son. No jokes about murdering his wife/grandma. The only old gag they had here was pizza rolls. This was pretty muich just a Half in the Bag episode. Their way too corporate now.

Not to mention that half of this video was just them defending their decision to shill for JJ and try to drum up some divide between zoomers and millennials because people are starting to look positiviely upon the Prequel Trilogy that they got their big break by bashing.

>>213858958 (OP)
Yeah, its called engagement bait.

When was the last time Mike said to Rich, "you FUCKER"

>>213861028
does that make you feel white genocided, incel?

That would make the most sense desu

>>213861028
Millenial hate is a fascinating thing to witness.

>>213859081
>they blinded a ship with interstellar capabilities by shooting fireworks into the air
It was retarded, it simply was filmed like a drama instead of a space opera, so it tricked midwits into thinking it was deeper and smarter than it actually was.

Star Wars is not a place for a "drama". Melodrama is what Star Wars is all about.

report eceleb threads as off-topic

>>213861474
Its star wars related anon

>>213861407
They feel slighted by everything except the people actually raming their cock's in their ass

>>213858958 (OP)
SW went from a living, breathing adventure in an alien galaxy to disco action fight toy commercial. The only people who can't spot the difference are getting paid to not notice.

Probably. They peaked like 10 years ago.

But I think their real problem is that their entire channel is based on reviewing hollywood slop, and even they can't stomach watching hollywood slop anymore so they have to go back to the old grift of complaining about the prequels.

report all eceleb threads as off topic

>>213861028
>>213861407
Elaborate. I have no plans on watching it, so spoil it.

I'm not surprised though. Gen X'ers are the pretend-edgy self-called "cool kids" who grew up aspiring to be cool in order to get their parents to notice them. They hate millennials because their parents actually looked after them.

>>213861521
Who?

>>213861514
youtube is not television or film

>>213860600
Did they ever figure out why she was murder-suicided with her brother on Valentines Day?

>>213861028
>Not to mention that half of this video was just them defending their decision to shill for JJ
I like RLM's non-serious stuff, but I have no idea what they've been on about with their Star Wars opinions. Praising The Force Awakens was one thing, a pretty retarded thing at that, but then they shit all over Rogue One for rehashing and nostalgia-baiting just a year later? Then they complained about Star Wars being out of ideas and repeating itself in their subsequent sequel reviews as if the IP itself is incapable of creativity now, despite their praise for JJ blatantly remaking A New Hope?

>>213859081
Andor is closer to ANH than just about everything else because "muh Jedi, muh Sith" took the franchise over like a cancer. It'd be like you rewrote the history of WW2 and made it exclusively about the Thule Society vs Qabalah. No Normandy, no Stalingrad, no Midway. Just a bunch of fucking wizards wiggling their fingers at one another. Andor actually showed what the non-Jedi were doing and what they had to sacrifice, and it was great. I honestly hope we never get anything Jedi or Sith related ever again, that story is done.

>>213861606
>at least 5 minutes of unironically defending "The Acolyte" while pretending it's just a joke
>repeating the "zoomers think sex is icky" meme, while joking that Anakin's implied sex with the woman he married "won't age well" as if he's implying Anakin raped her or something and she didn't totally want his children
>"Maybe the prequels were actually kind of better than the corporate slop we have now, and maybe Millennials prefer the honest but flawed works of a creative visionary to sanitized corporate crap with no substance, but they're still retarded and gay"

>>213858998
Except there are people that actually like the prequels. Absolutely no one like the Acolyte. Seethe louder.

The RLM subreddit but be in shambles KEK

>>213861789
If that's the reason you like Andor, that's pretty fucking weak, considering that's exactly what happens in Rogue One, which is infinitely better, and actually captures the spirit of Star Wars instead of diverging and trying to make itself seem different because it feels "embarrassed" about being Star Wars, like Andor clearly does.

>>213861868
I like the last 30 minutes of The Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith is a genuinely good movie.

Other than that, yea, Clone Wars is kinda shit, and Phantom Menace is more bad than good.

>>213861881
Andor and Rogue One are practically the same thing. Andor is just more of a spy thriller, which suits the WW2 inspirations of Star Wars perfectly. It's a show where the resistance fighters are actually based on resistance fighters instead of retarded action heroes.

>>213861705
>despite their praise for JJ blatantly remaking A New Hope?

Not only that, Fat Mike said TFA was "everything he hoped it would be".

>>213860800
I’m at the point in the video where he’s trash talking Disney Wars and zoomers. Leep coping Zoomcel

>>213861950
>TFA is literally ANH but with a bigger death star
>"Everything I hoped it would be"
>Rogue One tells the story of how they got the death star plans
>"I can't believe they had AT-AT's in this"

>>213861920
> It's a show where the resistance fighters are actually based on resistance fighters instead of retarded action heroes.
>they do little if any actual resistance fighting
Sounds like they weren't at all.

Meanwhile, ACTUAL resistance fighters:
>Nancy Wake – The “White Mouse” of the French Resistance. Parachuted into France, coordinated sabotage, led guerrilla fighters, and was on the Gestapo’s most-wanted list.
>Jan Kubiš & Jozef Gabčík – Paratroopers who carried out Operation Anthropoid, assassinating Reinhard Heydrich, the “Butcher of Prague.”
>Spartacus – Gladiator who led a massive slave uprising against Rome.
>Ahmed Shah Massoud – “The Lion of Panjshir.” Master of guerrilla warfare, fought both Soviets and later the Taliban
>T. E. Lawrence – British officer who fought alongside Arab guerrillas, blowing up railways, leading desert raids, and becoming a legend.

>>213861705
>Praising The Force Awakens was one thing, a pretty retarded thing at that, but then they shit all over Rogue One for rehashing and nostalgia-baiting just a year later? Then they complained about Star Wars being out of ideas and repeating itself in their subsequent sequel reviews as if the IP itself is incapable of creativity now, despite their praise for JJ blatantly remaking A New Hope?

The muse that inspired them to make this

https://youtu.be/OfJRm0WssOE?si=L0XhIsELTsTnhlmc&t=8

was probably singing in their ear when they reviewed TFA. They ignored her then, but she grew too strong by Rogue One that they had to make it. Ultimately they chose to side with their corporate overlords rather than the muse and so she ever since, she has left them, and all they make now is merely a shadow of a shadow of their previous work.

>>213858958 (OP)
>Plinkett's reviews is what cause Disney Star Wars and RLM's eventually being irreverence and debunked as film critics.

>>213859081
>Andor might be brilliant, but it isn't Star Wars.
Right. What was defineable as a star wars story is gone. I could say Shadows of the Empire felt like a star wars movie, even thought it was a book and a video game. It maintained what an adventure it was. It was when Lucas oversaw it and was made by other people. Andor is great, but it's away from what star wars normally is.

>>213858958 (OP)
them praising sequel trilogy destroyed their credibility

>>213858958 (OP)
Embarrassing video. It's shit they've already said a million times before, but this time throw in seething about millennials and zoomers for daring to have a different opinion than their holy Plinkett SW videos.

I just watched the video and he spent literally the entire hour shitting on Disney Wars and explaining why it failed. Did the people complaining about this video not even watch it, or are they so hopelessly mentally ill that they literally hallucinated him saying something he didn't?

>He's still so buttblasted that almost everyone(99% of the audience) thinks the sequel trilogy is objectively and undeniably worse than the prequels that he has crawled into a black hole of irony and contrarianism contained within his asshole and is now defending the Acolyte with his usual detached millennial ironic and insincere wit
>Still obsessed with George after 2 decades and taking shots at him even though he probably hasn't given a shit about it or Disney's abortions for those decades
>Will never live down the fact that he drove star wars down a shittier more culturally irrelevant path with his reviews
SAD

>>213858958 (OP)
>plus he goes on a long rant about how THE FUCKING ACOLYTE is underrated and HE WANTS MORE?!?
wtf is this true; not watching it.

>>213858958 (OP)
Mike is trying to juice up the subscriber numbers before he sells a majority stake in RLM to a private equity.

>>213863025
It was more like "it's not as bad as I first thought" and "it has the same problems as the prequels".

Andor is the one he really liked, except for it not feeling like Star Wars.

>>213863025
kek at the pic.

>>213858958 (OP)
>I HATE THESE GUYS AND I WATCH EVERYTHING THEY DO AND CAN RECALL IT IN EVERY MINUTE DETAIL SO I CAN TELL YOU WHY YOU SHOULD HATE THEM TOO!

Sad.

>>213862095
You should check out Army of Shadows by Jean Pierre Melville. Set in resistance France, but the tone of the movie is very bleak, soul crushing, and nihilistic.

>>213858958 (OP)
Man, they are still coping about how their reviews destroyed star wars as a brand. I don't understand why, if I had destroyed one of the most profitable franchises in history just by making an extended comedy skit I would be very proud of myself.

>>213863025
>pic related
>implying Jay inst the secret chud in the group

>>213859081
Please. It's only "brilliant" when you compare it to the dreck that it shares a franchise with. When comparing it to Kenobi, what isn't "brilliant"?

The prequels are better than Andor.

The prequels are better than the Plinkett reviews.

>Boomer yells at clouds because Star Wars is a soulless corporate product
He really can't let it go, huh? God am I glad I never gave a shit about Star Wars.

>>213864057
Which retarded zoomer was that?

Mike has some very serious debt to some very serious people

at what point did you get sick of this shit? Not just RLM but internet cunts in general. It's been a while.

>>213864880
2019.

>>213864880
i'm reminded of that aaron lewis song "it's been a while" but switches to singing about pauly shore

>>213864880
Yeah I'm getting really sick of these e-celebs, even the ones who hate the stuff I hate. Nerdrotic can be funny, but his critics are right when they say he keeps making the same video over and over again. I heard that Jeremy from Geeks and Gamers has pivoted to political content because he couldn't keep saying the same shit all the time.

>>213864973
Most of them have just been riding the culture war for clicks and I'm sick of shit. I don't like anything the studios have been made in ages but I'm also just sick of hearing about it just as much.

>>213865047
And politics and music too. The culture has been going downhill since 1977 and I wasn't even alive back then.

>>213861914
Contrary to popular belief, of the three prequel trilogy films, I think the one that feels the most like a classic Star Wars movie is Phantom Menace. It's even shot on film! I think when people say the prequels are bad, what they're really saying is Episode II is bad. I and III are good if you overlook some things and you're willing to meet George halfway. That kind of nuance is lost on most people though.

>>213865313
>the one that feels the most like a classic Star Wars movie is Phantom Menace.

FAX^

>>213865313
if you overlook some things and only get to halfway that's a failing grade
bart deserved to be held back in 4th grade

>>213861868
People today actually like the prequels, yes. His point was that the alpha generation might turn out to like the Acolyte as well in a decade whenever the new sludge comes out.
He was shitting on Prequel lovers.

>>213864973
>Jeremy from Geeks and Gamers has pivoted to political content because he couldn't keep saying the same shit all the time
So now he just sucks Trump's dick. Dude is clueless about geopolitics

its funny how without the prequel defense force, most people would never think of these ecelebs

>>213866091
>it's funny how if my neighbor Mike hadn't willingly gone over and kicked that hornet's nest, he wouldn't have been stung

completely pointless video that added nothing new to the conversation. three only point they really made was that ashoka was similar to the prequels but not really.

>>213864973
I thought it interesting that a good chunk of them also started following RLM's Timecop lead and started doing creative endeavors of their own. Drinker made his weird self-insert soldier short film, Nerdrotic wrote a book on his recovery from substance abuse, and another chunk of them wrote some comic book anthology that ended up with them immediately going down the big the dumb route of variant covers.

Chuds continue to lose cultural relevance. Now even Mike is getting tired of them

>>213866186
>now
he's always had this same contrarian posturing. did you only just statt watching them?

>>213866186
Mike *is* a chud.
Down to the phenotype and the seething about sex.

I still enjoy BOTW but sadly Mike has lost the plot for some time now. Sometimes I give HITB a chance but it's mostly cringe and hard to watch, Mike sounds so "out of touch but still trying to be hip with the kids" most of the time. Jay is still mostly fine even though he's an actual homo.

>RedditLedditMedia
>2025

>>213863025
Good ol' Mike "Kigger Niller" Stoklasa.

>>213866268
>>213866186

>>213861993
Their forced AT-ST meme was always retarded.
>A film set during the OT era featuring OT vehicles??? BLATANT FANSERVICE REEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

>>213860600
>Nubboo...Nubboooooo...accesory set...

>>213858958 (OP)
Legit the worst Plinkett video yet, its the same vague babble rant about several topics. About the same quality of post-sequel Plinkett.

It wasn't funny either, besides the George Lucas phonecalls.

>>213861790
All I see are truth nukes here son.

>>213866869
this is not the origin of chud.. they picked it up

>>213866869
Ignoring whatever ugly shit you just posted, but I wanted to let you know

>>213866965
I wouldn't have posted it otherwise
Mike really is that broken

>>213863074
This is the same scheme that almost put Mike & Jack behind bars back in 2019.

>>213861790
No way that actually said the words retarded or gay.....right?

>>213865641
Movies shouldn't be about pass or fail. It should be about "Is there anything entertaining here" and it may not be complete it may not be all the way through always but you can't ignore the good parts of something because there's equal bad.

>>213858958 (OP)
I was having some respect for them not jumping on the War of the Worlds bandwagon with a quickie BotW spotlight, but then they have to do something even more desperate for views and make another Plinkett Star Wars rant regurgitating the same shit he has been saying for years now.

I am not some based aloof above it all iconoclast
I cared enormously about Star Wars
And then I stopped caring
I watched The Force Awakens, and I watched Rogue One, and I watched The Last Jedi, and I watched one season of The Mandalorian, and I tapped out. Never saw Solo, never saw Rise of Skywalker, never saw any of the new TV shit. Switch flipped in my brain.

And now I can't pass the Sally-Anne test, I cannot grasp or believe that anyone actually cares about Star Wars anymore

It is the deadest property on earth, and they didn't just kill it by being shit, because like, Alien and Terminator have been shit for decades and yet they still endlessly limp along, never successfully chasing their audience away. Shit, you could even rekindle the prequel argument autism and point out that there, they made three bad movies and still didn't chase the audience away.

Somehow whatever Disney Star Wars did was worse.

>>213861914
>last 30 minutes of The Phantom Menace
Pod racing?

>>213867430
No. They were paid to shill Acolyte and those words aren't advertiser friendly.

>>213866989
chud was started on libfag “weird” twitter

>>213867612
>>213866989
>>213866869
Chud is absolutely a slur for people who would physically combust if they said faggot, retard or nigger
I recall its predecessor was pissbaby

>>213867548
reddit

>>213858958 (OP)
This video was garbage. Mike had nothing interesting to say. Youtube criticism has really moved past RLM. They're neither particularly observant or funny. If you're critical 90% of this video is just rhetorical questions and vague non-sequiturs.
>Does this thing matter?
>I don't know
>but it means star wars has changed
Wow, great observation fatass

>>213867637
and it comes from the movie C.H.U.D. but the modern usage comes from their obsession with the simpsons
https://youtu.be/8blGwrG1WZs

It was a coward's move to keep attacking George Lucas in this video. Mike singlehandedly led the Abrams led Disney shitquels happening and now he wants to offload responsibility onto George's shoulders still.

>>213858958 (OP)
>he goes on a long rant about how THE FUCKING ACOLYTE is underrated and HE WANTS MORE
he was comparing it to the prequels and basically calls the fans hypocrites for hating on it while loving the prequels. he thinks both are shit

For people that make fun of people being mad about movies and shows that just came out, these guys sure are obsessed with seething at these old ass movies

>>213863025
He basically says that criticism against The Alcolyte is retarded because one of the biggest things people bring up about it is it doesn’t depict Jedis right but there’s not enough lore on the Jedi to even make that argument and that it has good things like The Prequels, and there’ll probably be a push in a few years where “Gen Alpha looks back at the Alcolyte in a new light.” And he’s right.

>>213858958 (OP)

They haven't been assed to film BotW episodes this Summer because 'oh, so hot in the studio'.

>>213867453
>"Is there anything entertaining here"
there's lightsaber battles
D Minus, audiences want to see a jedi reflect a droid laser beam back. most of the trilogy isn't a fight sequence that barely happened

I like RLM when they watch $5 budget movies nobody's ever heard of from the '80s

>And today we're watching Silent Adventure. Fascinating story here, it was produced by a Nebraska dentist and filmed in Libya under Muamar Gaddafi. It's about a team of mercenaries fighting demonic mutants, and as you can see, in this scene they actually kill a stuntman.

>>213867595
So why did that guy put it in quotation marks? Who is he quoting?

>>213867758
>And he’s right.
Garbage from a decade ago doesn't "get looked back on in a new light" anymore

>>213867803
Oldest gen alpha are 15. You might think “What we love and think will be this way forever!” But it won’t, and pretty soon you’ll be a confused 30 year old judging by your post

>>213858958 (OP)
Your thread is just rehashing "Plinkett isn't special anymore," which we all know.

>>213867758
>Gen Alpha looks back at the Alcolyte in a new light.” And he’s right.

Lmao will never happen. Adults during the time hated the prequels and mostly children growing up with them have fond memories of them. All in all however it was wildly successful and raked in money.

There will be no new fondness for the acolyte later on because adults during its time hated it but there were no children to watch it and have fond memories of it. It flopped. Nobody watched it

>>213866917
>Qui-Gon sucker... They didn't even eat the sucker!

>>213867865
>Lmao will never happen.
Famous last words. I believed that the prequels and post-grunge would always be seen as a joke.
It doesn’t necessarily have to be The Alcolyte. You could replace it with the Sequel Slop too

>>213867865
Adults gave the prequels mid to slightlt positive reviews. It was just fat guys with star wars toys and trekkies that were seething about the prequels as if they were the worst movies ever. All of them were successful and Revenge Of The Sith was fairly well liked at the time.

>>213858958 (OP)
honestly its pretty cringe to still do that millennial "its uncool to care" shtick in 2025, doesnt matter if you combine it with some dishonest "well its fine if YOU care" disclaimer, actually it makes it more cringe if i think about it.

>>213867926
What you believe is irrelevant. The prequels were successful. The acolyte wasn't. The sequels being liked by kids turned adults later on is an argument because they made money. But that is moving the goalposts. The topic was the acolyte which failed in every metric to find an audience to magically later love it

You'll be getting zero effort videos in the run-up to Halloween. They always get more creative for that holiday.

>>213867926
You're just wrong dude
If your asinine theory was right then rekindled respect for The Matrix sequels would have shown up by now

>>213867935
>Adults gave the prequels mid to slightlt positive reviews
You can see the box office numbers decline with each sequel. People in 1999 were interested that a new star wars was coming out then lost interest when it had nothing that made the original trilogy. StarTards like yourself don’t want to admit LoTR came in and stole its thunder.

>>213867637
I miss when Chud was just slang for calling someone ugly. Because of you know, the fucking movie. I bet like 90 percent of the people tossing it out don't even know about the source.

>>213868092
All three Star Wars trilogies follow that box office pattern.

>>213868092
And yet it still printed money. Same way the sequels declined in BO at each film but each still made a billion. Same for Jurassic world. Impossible to say they weren't successful regardless

>>213868092
Phantom Menace was a huge event and revenge of the sith made more money than attack of the clones
>muh lotr
what are you even talking about? Just bringing up random other movies and things “Startards” won’t admit

>>213868130
That movie was dogshit
It had a few neat effects shots like when they cut the one's head off and he just grew a nastier replacement head but like 80% of the runtime is a surprisingly sincere and preachy melodrama about how sad the homeless are

>>213868054
>But that is moving the goalposts
It works because whether or not they “failed”(plus how do you know the Alcolyte wasn’t successful? Do you have the streaming numbers?) the general public view them negatively

>>213862268
This is why I keep saying that Star Wars needs a hard reboot, with a consistent style across every movie/series. Of course, this would mean indirectly admitting the franchise is a pile of shit, which it is, but Disney is too far up its own ass.

>>213868077
I think people were coming around to it. Morpheus, Neo and Trinity were our generation's Han, Luke, and Leia. It's partly why John Wick resonated so much.

Then WB shat out Resurrections and all that good will that was accumulating over the decades was flushed away.

>>213868184
Didn't say it was good. I just wish I could use to call someone ugly again.

>>213868178
Phantom Menace was a huge event simply for being a new Star Wars movie in theaters. That is all. All the people going out and watching it hadn’t even seen it so it being a “huge event” has nothing to do about the movie’s quality

>>213867725
The thing is, Mike Stoklassa is also shit.

You know what's absolutely going to get a public renaissance after being endlessly insulted and mocked in its era?

>>213861668
>https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/brother-sister-identified-chandler-murder-suicide
Looks like her brother was a nutcase

>>213868325
We already got both of them becoming highly respected award winning actors

>>213861591
why didn't you get accepted as a jannie lol? how do you fail that?

>>213868054
>What you believe is irrelevant. The prequels were successful.

This. Zoom-anons can seethe, but they can't undo history.

>>213858958 (OP)
If you're still watching, you're part of the problem. Mike is a broken shell of a man, barely able to lift the weight of his own body out of bed each morn. The prequels broke him, on the inside. And why?
Because they showed the truth he had only guessed at in the deepest recesses of his mind, but that had become truth in plain view to all: that Star Wars is for children, not adults, and to watch it as an adult is not magical.

>>213867725
That doesn't make any sense. The prequels was all Lucas and the Acolyte was all Kennedy

>>213858958 (OP)
>Hour long vague, meandering rant about how George Lucas is a hack, Disney sucks ass at star wars, and Andor was pretty decent
Ok yea soooo… why was this made?
What was the point?

>>213868542
Old man yells at cloud video

>>213868542
We've got to have... MONEY

What was Jay trying to express in this clip?

>>213868580
Doing a Joe Biden impersonation
>whah?
>who?

>>213868753
Oh my science, Jay is a chud too?

>>213868295
Yeah I know, I’m explaining why it made more money than the two sequels

>>213868130
C.H.U.D. II: Bud the C.H.U.D. > C.H.U.D. (Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers)

>>213868802
Jay is the most vocal wokie among them

>>213868325
the main characters suck (lol). Everything else about the movie is kino

>>213868542
Every time someone mentions that he recommended JJ it hurts him to the core. He will keep setting the record straight until you yield.

>>213867861
Try 20. Gen Alpha's been around longer than you think.

You can tell Mike feels eternal shame for:
1. Claiming JJ Abrams would be great for Star Wars
2. His The Force Awakens half in the bag where he is absolutely glowing about the movie. He felt ashamed about this within 24 hours of the video posting. He rushed out a plinkett days later

>>213858958 (OP)
>Mike predicted Disney+ making a deal with ESPN

He has to be stopped

>>213868214
>Then WB shat out Resurrections and all that good will that was accumulating over the decades was flushed away.
Then shouldn't that create the "new movie is so bad the previously disliked ones are positively revalued" effect?

>>213868914
>He will keep setting the record straight until you yield.
That's not a lie he can get away with.
Everyone whose seen his prequel reviews knows.

>>213867758
>there’ll probably be a push in a few years where “Gen Alpha looks back at the Alcolyte in a new light.” And he’s right.
He is not right. The prequels were adored by children. Almost literally all children. Because the culture at the time meant everyone saw the latest and biggest movies. This is not even close to true when it comes to The Alcolyte. The fact is children don't universally love it, and most importantly, not that many have even seen it

>>213869156
I remember growing up and finding out I was apparently supposed to hate Jar Jar Binks and Scrappy Doo. As a kid I was never really bothered by them, they were just silly guys.

>>213858958 (OP)
>plus he goes on a long rant about how THE FUCKING ACOLYTE is underrated
Why don't you get it? Just get it already.

>>213869192
This. Adults watching movies for children and getting upset over things that appeal to children is such a strange phenomenon

>>213860600
No more dead hooker jokes, might as well retire the character.

>>213861868
>Except there are people that actually like the prequels. Absolutely no one like the Acolyte. Seethe louder.

>>213858958 (OP)
Star wars was always shit.

>>213866186
>mike
>chud
The dude thats been crying about the lack of homosexuals and blacks in movies for the entire 15 year run of his movie review show is a chud? Who isn't a chud in your view?

>>213869239
Oh no, we get it.
He's just retarded.

>>213866928
Plinkett Classic Era ends with Crystal Skull, everything after has been Mike Really Wants That Call Plinkett and non-canon.

The Simpsons S14E15 "C.E.D'oh" originally aired on March 16, 2003

>>213868914
Nobody is going to yield, he said what he said. It's his fault

For the low low price of $5 a month you can soothe Mikes ego. Every year early onset dementia YouTubers have to cut back on their spending on movie props. With your help we can reverse this trend.

>>213863943
the brand was ruined by the prequels, not the people who reviewed it

>>213866879
Also usually people with room temperature IQs using that dumb AT-ST meme to dunk on references of any kind

When is Mauler going to review the new RLM video? You know he's been seething from that beating Mike gave him

>>213869544
You do realize there were a ton of critics who hated the original Star Wars films right?
The movies were a popular success, but critics called them infantile moral-less movies.
If we're to believe critics, Star Wars was never popular and The Last Jedi was the best Star Wars film.
I don't think your perception of "the brand" means much of anything.

>>213869029
He didn't answer your post so you probably BTFO him

>>213869691
>If we're to believe critics, Star Wars was never popular and The Last Jedi was the best Star Wars film.

This also brings up a point that I don't think people addressed. The praise for Force Awakens and especially Last Jedi came off so forced that I think it also turned off a lot of people. This gives off the effect of the establishment praising the Sequel films unlike the Prequels where it was the establishment and loud Gen Xers complaining about the Prequels.

>>213869749
Yea. The establishment complained about all 6 of George Lucas' Star Wars films.
Suddenly these Star Wars films, not made by George, were getting praised from every angle by the mainstream.

>>213869691
the prequels were shit and the disney trilogy were shit. just because 3 faggots from Wisconsin decide to do a absurdly long and autistic review, that means they are responsible for how the series is viewed now?. the quality of the film to the general audience is what matters. they hated it. that was what i was responding to not whatever the fuck you are talking about.

>>213869888
I would go so far as to say that the prequels were, in fact, not shit.

>>213865683
>His point was that the alpha generation might turn out to like the Acolyte as well
He's wrong because the alpha generation wouldn't even know or care about the Acolyte. The prequels were popular because many people watched them in cinemas. No one saw the Acolyte. The ratings were so bad that the show was canceled after the first season.

Secondly, people still argue and discuss the prequels. On the other hand, it's been ten years since TFA came out, and no one is even trying to rethink the sequels.

>>213861789
there's what, barely 5 minutes of actual lightsabers being lit up in ANH too? as a kid of course Darth Vader kicked ass, but i always loved the stormtroopers or Han Solo, i never knew a kid who genuinely wanted to play as Luke. We understood Luke as a character, but Han stole the show, Obi-Wan and Luke were needed for the plot of course, but the grit of Mos-Eisley, anything involving Jabba, Han being slick in this disgusting galaxy was what got me into Star Wars. I feel like Darth Vader being Luke's father, Leia being his sister, and absolutely everything in the prequels were all afterthoughts, even Endor was supposed to be the wookie planet until those retarded faggot fucking carebears came into existence and some coked up executive said lets profit off it. Nothing changes at all if Darth Vader, Luke, and Leia are blood relatives. All you need for motivation is Obi-Wan trained Vader, Vader betrayed him so Obi lives in exile abandoning his religion, Luke has prospects in this religion, and Obi-Wan knew Luke's father which is why he hangs around that desert shithole just to make sure his friend's son stays outta trouble/is safe. Vader recognizing Luke has the force is all the motivation Vader needs to turn Luke to the darkside. Rekindling this "ancient religion" in someone who has potential and ironically is the son of the man you slayed is some grim poetic irony.
I do understand why they made Vader his father, you get an understandable connection thats relatable for audiences and satisfying when Vader redeems himself, but ultimately the Skywalker name being this legacy has stunted this series. Fuck you Carrier Fischer it's not about family, its about Star Wars. Luke being on the fence of being good or going to the dark side is all you need, it's a hat on a hat to have him be a blood relative living on the same shithole planet his retarded father never thought to check up on.

>>213869888
>ust because 3 faggots from Wisconsin decide to do a absurdly long and autistic review, that means they are responsible for how the series is viewed now?
Their reviews got tens of millions of views + Mike suggested JJ should direct
So yea they have quite a lot of responsibility. Whether they like it or not.

>>213867430
mike used to say nigger in his plinkett reviews. we've come so far unfortunately.

After getting into film I realized that Mike was full of shit. I understand that prequels are divisive, but insulting Lucas was too much.
Let's be serious, they are literally nobodies compared to him and his influence on American cinema and pop-culture is enormous.

>>213869544
>the brand was ruined by the prequels
A lot of great games, comics, books and cartoons during the prequel era say otherwise. SW brand reached its peak in the 00s.

>>213861789
>"muh Jedi, muh Sith" took the franchise over like a cancer
Without "muh Jedi, muh Sith" SW is just a generic space opera tho.

I personally never heard or came across any real prequel hate until the Plinkett reviews.
There was always an understanding that they were kind of cheesy b-movies for kids, but I'd never come across hate or vitriol towards them.

>>213870123
My older brother hated the prequels from the moment he saw Phantom Menace, to the point he refused to watch episodes II or III and would just go
>but Jar Jar Binks though
When I tried to talk to him about them lol

>>213870100
those Gendy Tartakovsky animated shorts kicked so much fucking ass. His style really complimented what being a clone trooper was, and helped expand the universe. I truly hate lore, extended universe shit you gotta read in a shittily made book, but those Gendy shorts were so fucking cool and better than what anyone deserved.

>>213870123
No, there was. It was mainly coming from things with large audiences and stuff. See >>213869381

>>213870145
Based big bro.

>>213870159
On the other hand he thinks Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is as good as the first three Indy films so I don't know

>>213870123
>I personally never heard or came across any real prequel hate until the Plinkett reviews.
Prequel babbys summed up. No theory of mind whatsoever.

>>213868130
>bet like 90 percent of the people tossing it out don't even know about the source.
You probably know the same goes for the majority of modern internet memespeak

>>213867548
>I watched The Force Awakens, and I watched Rogue One, and I watched The Last Jedi, and I watched one season of The Mandalorian, and I tapped out. Never saw Solo, never saw Rise of Skywalker, never saw any of the new TV shit. Switch flipped in my brain.
Same thing. I can't even watch the old trilogy anymore. I literally cringe when I hear SW theme. And I was the most devoted fan.

>>213870123
you're either too young or being ignorant. Nobody liked the retarded fucking kid, or jar-jar binks, and saw the writing on the wall. People understood Star Wars was a nerdy things aimed at kids, that greasy basement dwellers got too excited about, but genuinely people were letdown with the phantom menace. Maybe the anger wasn't as passionate, and people clung onto the podrace and darth maul looking cool but nobody, not a single retarded fucking faggot left Phantom Menace after not seeing a Star Wars movie in theatres, and thought
>that's my favorite one of this franchise
the prequels were a disappointment, despite having cool elements and ideas that you could cling on, the execution was sloppy and the majority of those movies are a chore to sit through.

>>213870187
The same goes for the vast majority of language. You probably don't know the etymology of most idioms you use, and who would expect you to?

>>213870065
you honestly believe that JJ abrams was hired by lucasfilm because of rlm?. the prequels were already universally hated and the plinkett reviews were just confirmation bias for the people who saw them.

>>213870173
damn your bros gay

>>213870082
The best part is Mike really thinks he lives rent-free in Lucas' mind, when the opposite is way more likely.

>>213870152
>>213870175
>>213870206
I think I just lived in a nice community where nobody seethed about children's movies

>>213870206
>you're either too young or being ignorant. Nobody liked the retarded fucking kid, or jar-jar binks, and saw the writing on the wall
I'm from Ukraine. Literally everyone in my class liked the prequels. The original trilogy was of no interest to anyone and everyone thought it was boring and lame.

>>213870209
>the prequels were already universally hated
In what universe?

>>213870265
Well, damn, maybe Putin had a point all along.

>>213870275
The real pre-2012 one.

The prequels told the tragedy of man's fall, which led to the fall of the empire. What are the sequels about? Can you tell?

>>213870202
nta, but i saw force awakens in theatres, and before the term "soft reboot" came out, I had an epiphany, I really loved Tron Uprising when I saw that in theatres, Daft Punk soundtrack definitely elevated everything, and I didn't grow up on Tron, so to me it's just a new thing, technically a sequel but you really don't need to see Tron 1. Then i saw Jurassic World and just got depressed after seeing it, its just the same movie and plot beats with threads connecting it to the source material but all-in-all its a new thing. Force Awakens was that moment where i recognized
>oh its a marketing gimmick for nostalgia
after learning about jj Abrams retarded cheap jewish mystery boxes and how things will never have a satisfying payoff but they'll steal your attention, i refused to watch anything else new. Force Awakens was my nail in the coffin. I don't even hate the prequels, i recognize the valid criticism, and im not even eager to rewatch them at all, but they were still a part of those early childhood years and ill never let that go. I remember damn near memorizing the original trilogy on vhs pre-special edition then my older sister told me there was a new trilogy about darth vader as a kid, and my imagination went wild until we burned copies of them. Star Wars ultimately is for kids, and maybe im just too old, but the new cast fucking sucks, there's no soul, I'm not even anti-Disney but they really shit the bed with that new trilogy and life is too short to watch something i know I'll hate.

>>213870311
No MINE was the real one.

>>213870259
well, lucky you.

>>213870318
Somehow, Palpatine returned

>>213870275
the phantom menace was trashed the entire summer of 99. look for yourself.

>>213870346
Was pretty lucky I guess.
The world at large, compared to the world I grew up in, feels like its full of insane manchild retards.

>>213870259
also to call Star Wars a b-movie is ridiculous. Those were masters of their craft producing top of the line special effects of the time, who all grew up on Jason and the Argonauts kinda stuff. Lucasfilm and ILM were doing amazing things in that editing room.

>>213870265
well you also must take into account that you're a stinky faggot khokhol

>>213869643
>beating Mike gave him
Link?

You all keep whining and yet Kennedy still hasn't been fired. Which means SW is still a profitable brand for Disney, whether you like it or not. You're just not the target audience anymore. Grow up and move on.

>>213870360
Universal hate implies nobody liked it.
>>213870369
Sure, Star Wars have high production values, best in class special effects and music, but they're straight up in the style of 50's B-flicks. That's how they were treated: fun cheesy flicks.

>>213870401
KWAA

>>213870360
In America, but not in the rest of the world. In many European countries, prequels are well liked.

>>213870396
>Grow up and move on.
I've been trying to move on since 2011 and the release of the "Complete Saga" blu-ray, when I'd come to terms with there being no more Star Wars movies in my lifetime.
Then Star Wars got forced down everyone's throats again.

>>213858958 (OP)
>we don't care about Star Wars, we're above it, now here's our twelfth Star Wars video since we first stopped caring about it
They'll always come crawling back for views

>>213870367
i forget where i read this, but think about the 50s, in any average small town you'd probably have 1 or 2 really retarded freaks who'd righteously get ostracized for being autistic. I'm not saying bullying is good, but social standards were higher. With the internet all these fucking freaks can find a chatroom of 12,000 other fucking freaks and validate themselves amongst eachother, have their own heiracy/dynamic and become a subculture. On top of modern-day tolerance we have swarths of people who feel connected/confident in their retardation on top of social standards that dont allow them to be beaten into the underground. If any of us were in our 30s in 1958 we'd be obsessed with watching tv and be labeled "quiet" in town, maybe lucky enough to land a girl, but still probably be retarded losers.
dont forget you're here forever

the acolyte was unironically better than the obi wan show, mando season 3 and boba fett.
it was still shit but it just goes to show how awful disney wars has been.

>>213870396
>Grow up and move on.

You first, RLM/Sequel Trilogy defender

>>213870042
>He's wrong because the alpha generation wouldn't even know or care about the Acolyte.
I assumed the same thing about the prequels. To this day it astonishes me that people actually like that trash to this day.

>>213858998
It's literal alcoholic brainrot. He just cannot admit that the prequels were actually good. These are movies by the same guy that did Star Wars, American Graffiti, Indiana Jones, and THX 1138.

>>213867725
>people are hypocrites for liking one thing I don't personally like and disliking another thing I don't personally like
Too stupid to be true

>>213858958 (OP)
Reminder all nu wars is faggot shit

>>213868914
>>213869030

>>213870401
compare star wars to flash gordon, they're both space operas but one is absolutely on a higher standard. Im not even a star wars shill but you gotta recognize how that shit was lighting in a bottle and an absolute powerhouse of pop culture when it came out. It wasn't some silly thing kids see, it was the start of what we understand as blockbusters. yes jaws was technically the first summer blockbuster, but the cultural impact star wars had on society and its ripple effect to this day is far above jaws, that series burned out after its first film again im not a star wars shill, but back in the day when people had 3 channels on their tv, star wars rocked everyones cock off man.

The only good star wars movies are New Hope and Empire.
That's it. Even Jedi was shit and felt shitty compared to those two.
If you take your valuable time enjoying anything besides that, then you can fuck off to /co/ because the rest is cartoons.

>>213870465
You assumed the same thing because you're a dumb midwit. I disliked the Prequels and even I could see there was an audience for them back then in spite of the criticism.

>>213870499
>there was an audience for them
Severe autists maybe. Difference is in the 90s nobody considered them to be people or worth attention of any kind.

>>213870493
Thus proving once again, the only people who think New Hope and Empire are the only good Star Wars movies are NPCs with contrarian programing

>>213867637
>pissbaby
Also shitlord.

>>213870518
>Thus proving
The fuck are you talking about? Don't you have helluva boss to jack off to?

>>213870499
>there was an audience for them back then in spite of the criticism
Proto-Snyder cultists are not an audience.

>>213867637
>>213870534
Asshat was a popular one, too. Maybe even the most popular. Lot of bald millennials with beards loved saying asshat.

>>213870465
Prequels were made with love. Acolyte was made with hate.
I frankly see it being forgotten on this basis.

>>213858958 (OP)
>people only like the prequels because they grew up with them episode #270015
They sure are a lot of 70-year-olds online who were grown adults when the original Star Wars movies came out and didn't first watch them as children. I thought Mike was in his 40s or 50s, but I guess he's taken really good care of himself.

>>213870486
>they're both space operas
Not to be that guy, but I'm almost sure the term "Space Opera" was coined with Star Wars - because the idea was it was a modern update of Wagnerian opera.
This doesn't really get talked about anymore (the jews hate Wagner)

>>213870585
>I'm almost sure
kek, kererooooooooooooooooooo

>>213870585
You would be wrong then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_opera
>Beginning in the 1960s, and widely accepted by the 1970s, the space opera was redefined, following Brian Aldiss' definition in Space Opera (1974) as – paraphrased by Hartwell and Cramer – "the good old stuff"

>>213870549
>Prequels were made with love.
Love of money and merchandising, sure.
That same love got George to personally sell the franchise to Disney.
You should be thanking George for making the sequels happen. It couldn't have happened without him.

>>213867758
there's not much difference between gen alpha and zoomers other than age.
ever since the mass adoption of the smartphone, culture has basically stagnated.

>>213870595
>The term "space opera" was coined in 1941 by fan writer and author Wilson Tucker as a pejorative term in an article in Le Zombie (a science fiction fanzine)

>Mike makes Plinkett video about Disney sequels
>Every single one of them is seething about prequels
It's like looking at a middle-aged guy who peaked in high school, like, we get it, you are hate the prequels guy.

>>213870595
Well if it was the 60's/70's it probably wasn't a term used to describe Flash Gordon.
Flash Gordon was B-Sci-FI

I think I stopped caring about their opinions after The Force Awakens review.
Then I rewatched prequels and I realized they aren't as terrible as they claimed.

>>213870629
I mean look at this thread, Gen X manchildren still seething about the Prequels decades later

>>213870208
Yeah but specifically modern internet slang

>>213870643
Is that what its filled with?

>>213870604
I know this might be difficult for you to understand because of your mental and moral problems, but it is actually possible to make things both for profit and with good intentions.

>>213858958 (OP)
When will Mike accept that he is one of the pathetic neckbeards crying about Star Wars online that he keeps complaining about

>>213870664
>both for profit and with good intentions.
Was that what he had in mind when he sold the franchise to disney, anon?

>>213870674
No need. He has the "I fuck ginger pussy" card.

>>213870647
No but generally all language though

>>213870208
perhaps but many of the sources of language aren't in as recent memory. They also weren't directly taken from movie titles. Retard.

>>213870676
Yes I think so.
I think it was a bad decision, but I think George still had this view of Disney as being the family friendly company they were in the 70's and I think a part of him thought they would genuinely be good stewards of the movies and the franchise he made.
And then he called the process of selling Star Wars "like a divorce" and called Disney "white slavers" - so I would guess at some point during the process of selling it he soured very hard on Disney.

>>213858958 (OP)
>Were Their Views Declining or Something?

yes

>>213870736
He knew and worked with Kennedy personally. By all accounts there was no reason to think that the movies would turn out this badly. Maybe he thought they might do their own thing he wouldn't maybe he didn't expect to agree with all their choices but these is ZERO reason it should have gone this way.

>>213861789
Andor is further away from ANH than anything else: mood, pacing, dialogue, humor, fucking hell Andor fans are retarded.

>>213870736
>I think George still had this view of Disney as being the family friendly company they were in the 70's
KEK he didn't trust them when he sold it and they'd been trying to buy it for years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9blHoKH8TU
He sold it because the money started smelling better and better. George is no better than the jews that fucked his project over.

How much time of his day does Mike spend looking up what random retards in tiktok have to say about Star Wars? And it obviously keeps making him mad since he needs to keep making videos affirming how the prequels are still bad. He's in the obsessive derangement stage of his life, except instead of focusing on politics he's chosen to focus on the prequels.

>>213870765
>He knew and worked with Kennedy personally.
Obviously not. Just look at his shit-level dialogue in the prequels. He's so bad with people he doesn't even understand how they speak.

>>213870810
The dialogue in the prequels isn't supposed to sound like the ghetto nigger slang you're surrounded with in your everyday life, lil Timmy.

After watching the sequels, I'm so glad Disney killed old EU. Characters like Kyle Katarn, Mara Jade, Kreia, Revan, Meetra Surik, HK-47, Ulic Qel-Droma, Exar Kun, Lana Beniko, Dash Rendar, Cade Skywalker, and others will never be raped. No one will ever hurt them.

>>213870736
George will give the rights to star wars away like candy. The entire EU canon was only allowed to become the gargantuan monstrosity that it was because he'd sign the rights to any retard willing to put pen to paper. He's, at best, always had the impression that anything he did not personally write, isn't "real" star wars. He has never had significant respect for either the dignity of his own work, or frankly, the work others did for him with it after he gave it away. It was always something he would give and then deny the existence of, if he felt like he didn't like it. By the time George sold it, he just wanted money.

>>213870817
>The dialogue in the prequels isn't supposed to sound like the ghetto nigger slang
I never said it did, dumbass. I just want it to sound halfway decent. Even George himself said the dialogue was shit.

>>213870838
>He has never had significant respect for either the dignity of his own work, or frankly, the work others did for him with it after he gave it away.
He canonized Aayla Secura from the comics tho.

>>213870838
He's a grade-A sellout and always has been.
Star Wars went from the worst hands to another set of the worst hands. That's the sad truth of it.
Star Wars was FUBAR no matter what, and Lucas was directly responsible for both ruining his franchise and later selling it to the only company that could do worse.

>>213870791
Idk I think he sold it because Disney kept bothering him to buy it.
They probably made some implications that Kathleen Kennedy had dirt on him.
And the Plinkett reviews were probably honestly a Disney funded hit-piece from the start, meant to put pressure on George to sell.

>>213870822
>Meetra Surik
Who the fuck is this?

>>213870851
And halfway-decent to you means "like I'm used to people talking" which has never been the style of dialogue in Star Wars.

>>213870895
>Idk I think he sold it because Disney kept bothering him to buy it.
Then at best he's a beta bitch who was too gay to bother them back with a repeated "fuck off"
I've got no sympathy for the old fuck either way.
The Plinkett reviews were just amateur indie filmmakers going after an extremely low hanging fruit during the AVGN era where everybody and their great aunt was making fun of famously poor-quality shit.

>>213870894
>star wars was always bad and was always in bad hands
How hard is it going to make you seethe that I like George and his movies?

>>213859081
Mike is just mad that retards are giving the prequels shallow nostalgia praise even though Acolyte sucks ass for the same reasons.
A proper Plinkett on Acolyte would have been better IMO but noo because everyone else shat on it Mike won't because he needs to feel special and cutting edge with his takes or some shit.

>>213870915
Sure, Mike

>>213870897
Then why did it work in New Hope and Empire when it clearly didn't in the prequels?

>>213870918
Not as hard as it makes you seethe that it's all George's fault at the end of the day.

>>213870915
>Then at best he's a beta bitch who was too gay to bother them back with a repeated "fuck off"
Idk anon, you try being a multi-millionare faced with hollywood trying to drag you through the mud.

>>213870957
Yes, that would be easy. Just don't meet with them and don't sign shit.
Bill Watterson did it without any problems.

>>213870932
According to whom. According to you?
Why don't you tell me instead of going "it's bad because it is"

>>213870706
But. I'm saying the internet uses a bunch of memes that some probably wouldn't if they traced where the memes came from. now reply puppet faggot

>Disney slop
grow up

>>213870981
>According to whom
Nearly the entire movie going public, critics almost as a whole (including positive reviews), and George Lucas himself.

>>213870955.
He certainly is responsible for making 6 great movies, which inspired tons of books, comics, videogames and toys that made my life a lot more fun than it would have been otherwise.
But I'd say I feel rather content about it instead.

>>213870981
>According to whom.
kek, the augjtie is getting his skirt up in a bunch watch out lads

>>213871007
>6 great movies
lol
lmao
He directed 1 good movie and got a better director to make a second good movie and has been responsible for nonstop trash ever since.

>>213870974
>Yes, that would be easy.
Easy for you to say.

>>213871022
Stop seething.

>>213871007
Sure, just leave out the part where he sold Star Wars to Disney, which he did. That was entirely his fault and he never once had to do that.
What's a guy his age even gonna do with 4 billion dollars?
>>213871027
>it's hard to do nothing and ignore solicitors
You know it doesn't surprise me that prequelfags are the same types to answer every pajeet spam call.

>>213870992
And I'm saying all language works like that, like how people use the word "decimate" without knowing what it means, purely out of a vague sense of "I guess it means this lol I'm not looking it up"

>>213870878
If he ever had genuine respect for the effort, the time, the work, the love, those authors, writers, artists, designers, and many more, fans, all of them, did, he'd have simply not sold it, and instead turned the IP into a legacy franchise that would -never- get another movie, period.
There was no preserving the EU once he sold it, there was no redirecting the franchise into a coherent, singular canon. It was impossible. George created something so fantastical, so beloved, that for a time, it was its own culture. It became something in unique and distinct for every fan, everyone participated in Star Wars in their own way. There was such a breadth of material in so many different formats, everyone's personal idea of star wars was their own canon. It had become almost synonymous with imagination itself. The mind of every child was its own Star Wars.

It didn't matter if Disney made the best movies ever. It wouldn't have mattered if they were good. Star Wars wasn't just a movie series by that point, it was something different. Something that had arguably never existed before, and will likely never exist again. If George wanted to respect that, he'd have died and let the IP persist in that way forever.

>>213871042
Are you sure it's me seething, anon? Bear in mind you've been wrong many times in your life before.

>>213871004
And those retards repeat the same "it's bad because it just doesn't FEEEL right" nonsense. While George has stated he's not a good at writing dialogue, but then he wrote the dialogue for the movies people like too so there's clearly a disconnect here between the opinions of the masses you adopt the opinions of and George Lucas.

>>213870632
>Well if it was the 60's/70's it probably wasn't a term used to describe Flash Gordon.
you stupid fucking arrogant child who always feels like they gotta be right about something they don't even know. YES Flash Gordon has been a film series for almost a goddamn century, but when i bring up Flash Gordon in reference to Star Wars, I'm talking about the 1980 film with the soundtrack by Queen. Which if you aren't sure, came out after Star Wars in the late 70s. They are absolutely comparable, and having Freddy Fucking Mercury singing your goddamn soundtrack is a telltale sign the movie your watching wasn't a b-movie. Do you even understand what makes something a b-movie? Flash Gordon was the standard of expectation for a space opera in the 80s, Star Wars raised the bar and rewrote the rules about pop culture. I fucking love Flash Gordon but even i recognize it still didn't hold a candle to relevancy of what Star Wars was and continued to be for almost 30 fucking decades you stupid nigger.

>>213871069
>And those retards repeat the same "it's bad because it just doesn't FEEEL right" nonsense
That's because the dialogue is stilted and poorly acted. It wasn't in the originals. It's very simple.

>>213871048
>>it's hard to do nothing and ignore solicitors
I've only alluded to it
But there's been plenty of rumors of blackmail and under-the-table threats.
I honestly don't think selling Star Wars was his first choice.
As you say, he didn't need the money.

>>213871069
>but then he wrote the dialogue for the movies people like too
Yeah, back when he allowed people to doctor his scripts.

>>213871064
Yes I am quite sure you are blind with retard rage.

>>213871083
If we're talking the 1980's film, the term "Space Opera" was coined well before then.

>>213871112
Wrong again. It's gotta be a fetish for people like you.
It's not my fault George sold the franchise to Disney of his own free will after years of being ashamed that he became a laughingstock who ruined his own series.

>>213871131
Prequelfags have to be right about every single thing they argue otherwise they have to face the concept of being wrong.
They were eternally buckbroken when Phantom Menace was a giant pile of shit. It was a blunder that shocked the whole damn world in 1998.

>>213871060
I will never understand why SW was sold. If he didn't want to make more movies, then don't do it. Let game studios continue making great games to keep SW afloat. You're right, for our generation SW was more than just movies.

>>213871137
It's funny
That's exactly the kind of thing someone who absolutely hates George Lucas and hates Star Wars would say.
Someone -seething- with hatred.

>>213871159
The prequels are pretty good movies.

>>213871164
>It's funny
I certainly think so. George was always a retard with some fun ideas.
It'd be funny as shit if it was revealed that George didn't even direct the first movie and Spielberg ghost directed it for him like he did Poltergeist.
Nah, nevermind that never happened. New Hope would've had better shots otherwise.

>>213871194
I am calling you a retard.

>>213870736
the bare minimum disney could've done was have a genuine plan instead of jew jew Abraham's and his cheap gimmick mystery boxes, then allowing Rian Johnson to not build upon but in fact dismantle everything that could've been interesting, if not predictable still entertaining. subverting expectations isn't a bad thing so long as the content is entertaining. EVERYONE knows a Jurassic Park movie will have Dino's and chaos, if Rian Johnson directed a Jurassic Park movie about a disneyland with dinosaurs where nothing escapes or goes wrong, he'd get lynched in the streets for wasting everyones time you can subvert expectations but you better have a good fucking idea to change things up with. Rian Johnson being a retarded faggot aped off J.J Abrahams and hoped he could tear down, and setup for the next retard to figure out, unfortunately for the audience now we have 2 films of a trilogy with setups that go nowhere, and nothings happening and the characters are either shallow or condescending.
Fuck Disney for not having some sort of consistency and just letting a revolving door of retards dismantling the vision of the retard behind him. That's why the sequels suck.

>>213871060
So basically you're saying that after everyone mocking Lucas and telling him he didn't even make his own movies, he should have thought of those people first and set up Star Wars to be a continuous plaything for his denigrators?
Pfft. Yeah, okay you entitled nigger.

>>213871131
yes space opera was coined before the 80s you retard. which is why people called star wars and flash Gordon in the 80s a space opera, you goddamn lobotomized faggot.

>>213871092
Actually the logic is "I don't like these movies, it must be the stilted dialogue and poor acting" (despite the movies this person did like having the same style of performance) and then your average moviegoer feels he has reconciled the disconnect between what he imagines himself to be (a rational person) and reality (a person who doesn't know what he wants beyond more of the last thing he enjoyed) so he can move on with his life.

>>213871199
And I'm calling George Lucas a retard.
I'm not even insulting you directly

>>213871235
Sounds like mental gymnastics to me. The shit they were saying in the prequels was famously clumsy compared to the more less stilted and poorly acted dialogue of the originals. You can like these piles of shit all you want, but dialogue was by far the weakest part of the prequels and it's honestly laughable that you'd defend that of all things.

>>213859081
Andor is pretentious drivel. Making everyone greasy and tense doesn't make it interesting or intelligent. The group of Hungarian communist jews in season 2 was so cringe, si boring, ugly and stupid. Just crazy they allowed SW be associated with such pile of poop

>>213871163
It was so much more than a movie by the 1990s it can't even be called a movie franchise during that period. It's not exaggeration that nerds use to debate levels of canon and argue which stories should be included on what tier of canon, where or how they should be taken into consideration. You could experience a schizophrenic break just debating the concept of canon for star wars during this period, and people probably did. I've never seen such a reaction to any intellectual property ever. It struck me even as a child reading about it as insane, and wonderous. That people could have that love for it.

Disney could not ever replicate that. Disney magic couldn't create that. They didn't have a fucking chance. I don't even hate the Disney canon, I really don't. I don't particularly, personally, care about the EU. But to the people that did?

You were never, ever getting those people back on board. And they were the people that had come to in a weird way, BE star wars. They were curating, or attempting to curate it. They were in many ways CREATING it. If you loved star wars, you could, feasibly, get the rights. You could potentially make your own boyhood fantasy of a Jedi survivor or evil sith man part of that madness. You really could.

If George hadn't sold it, it'd still be chugging like that. It would have never stopped.

>>213871207
>the bare minimum disney could've done was have a genuine plan
That's the thing
There was a genuine plan.
George gave them a plan, his own outline for the sequels, which has been pretty well documented and pieced together. Would have been a somewhat similar story about Han and Leia's children training to be Jedis.
They just straight up ignored it.
He seems contractually obligated not to complain.

>mike says a fresh batch of new retarded things to make fun of him for
>prequeltards instead spend thread after thread crying about how the prequels are still generally thought of as bad

>>213871268
t. average person imagining himself a film expert to avoid facing the reality of his situation

>>213871253
Barring some extreme unlikelyhoods George Lucas is both spiritually and financially more successful than you by extreme measures.
So I don't really care what (You) have to say.

>>213871222
Suck a fart out of my ass.

Why does he ironically say that the prequels are memorable? They are 100% memorable unironically. I still remember Dexter fucking Jettster, Watto, or Yaddle. I can't even remember what the guy who owned Ray looks like or whatever his name is. I can't even remember a single cool spaceship from the sequels other than X-Wings.

>>213862095
Want to know what actual resistance fighters look like? Watch Hamas videos destroying tanks wih their bare hands while being bombed and under siege for 2 years. Nothing to do with WW2 faggots who were in safe zones, doing cowardly assassinations and attacking from another country. German occupation was absolutely peaceful and you can see the locals going about their business. The germans didn't torture prisoners. The communists did.

>>213871313
just because you're illiterate doesn't make me a faggot you stupid special ed, down syndrome, extra chromosome having, nigger.

>>213871276
>George gave them a plan
Well, his plan still had Rey as the main character and Luke being a dumb hobo. The only difference was that Han and Leia's son was seduced not by Snoke, but by a sexy red twi'lek.

>>213871366
Man, look at that stupid, pointless edge.

>>213871369
Keep describing yourself that way and I'll call you cute!

I AM ALL JEDI

>>213871392
Rey was also Han and Leia's daughter.
And Luke was George Lucas' stand-in, depressed about the state of the world, and Rey (Han and Leia's daughter) was meant to give him hope again.

>>213871337
You are voicedeaf.

>>213871460
god i hate kids these days, you call them a faggot and they say
>yes daddy

>>213858958 (OP)
So is this franchise forever just going to be rehashes of 80s shit and woke feminism?

>>213871516
You have a lot of pent up unresolved rage preventing you from taking it easy.

>>213861028
The main actress playing Plinkett's would-be murder victim having been actually murdered in real life makes continuing the bit in poor taste. I agree the modern Plinkett content is lazy, though.

>>213871528
Playing KOTOR as a kid ruined SW for me. If you had told me back then that material would never be used in the main franchise in lieu of member berries, I wouldnt have believed you

>>213861705
Because there is TFA is self aware about being a remake and actively plays with its tropes. Rogue One and every subsequent Disney Wars are just unironic nostalgia bait without a hint of self awareness.

>>213871535
fuck you this is where i vent so im not cracking jaws irl. I've had too many moments holding back shit and not rageposting on 4chan and i wind up in cuffs. The Internet was supposed to be about that venting, if you dont get that anger out somewhere you'll get an aneurysm, and what's frustrating is how younger generations have a deceptive anger, nu-speak shit where they're still a manipulative sociopath but on the surface they look "chill" but they're still disrespecting you through and through. Life was simpler when everyone called eachother a faggot and threw fists sometimes. Now everyone's interested in therapy and if you square up they shoot you.
you win some, you lose some, but you live to fight another day all these bitchmade children murder over what should've been a blackeye

>>213871625
>TFA is self aware

>>213871528
RLM or Star Wars

>>213871660
Cool, but I'm not your therapist, faggot.

>>213866655
In Mike's defense they were talking really loudly while he was trying to watch Ghost Adventures.

>>213871589
>KOTOR
KOTOR is an overrated game written by a rapist.

>>213871664
Its not subtle

>>213871679
you're starting to get you mouth breathing cocking sucking nigger

>>213871703
>we know this movie is pretty bad
Isn't my definition of self aware. Self-depreciating, sure...

>>213871717
Relax or die, faggot

>>213871741
we all die whether i relax or not, how about you don't concern yourself about another man.
fag

>>213871210
I always find the mental gymnastics done in this thread to shit on George Lucas to be hilarious and desperate

>>213871022
>He directed 1 good movie
lol
>and got a better director to make a second good movie
lmao

You'll never be more than an NPC

>>213871789
Get control of yourself old man.

>>213871852
you're obsessed about a strange man on the Internet. at least download grindr so the next strange man online can fuck your ass and you'll have closure.

>>213871870
And yet
You're the one bringing up Grindr...

>>213871881
i just wanted to mention something you're familiar with

>>213871957
It's true, I did get a blowjob from a twink once.

The OT was shit-tier compared to the PT. There's a reason the ST sucks ass, and it is because it's a copy paste of the OT, but made even shittier.

>>213872214
Why would there be anything wrong with that?

>>213872239
your generation will die for isreal

>>213872268
Nah.

>>213863988
>implying Jay inst the secret chud in the group
That's why he got so mad. Poor innocent Mike just liked it for the excitement factor, but Jay was worried about the public uncovering his racism.

Hey RLM
You know what's better than pretending to be racist to try and gain clout with 4channers?
Actually contributing to culture.

what the fuck did they mean by this?

Give it up man.