Thread 213879107

How did Disney lose their male audience while owning Star Wars and Marvel?

>>213879107 (OP)
By filling everything with fucking girlbosses lol
If they fill their "new, original" IPs with girlbosses then those will fail too

>>213879157
Sorry, girlbosses and bipocks

>>213879107 (OP)
>>213879157
Men fucking hate women now. Gen Z is more gay then ever and they're the misogynistic kind of gay too, plus genuine hatred of women is common now

>>213879194
gay men have no reason to hate women and often have them as friends. i've never heard of or seen a misogynistic gay man. plenty of gay men hate trannies.

>>213879194
Correct. I hate all women. Harvey was and is innocent.

>>213879107 (OP)
They forgotten men stay with their children too.

>>213879194
Men don't hate women they just don't want to watch them as the leads in action movies, especially not the plain/ugly ones they tend to cast nowadays.

>>213879107 (OP)
I mean they turned every franchise they had about girlbosses beating up or rescuing weak, evil and or pathetic white guys.
They literally have not a made a single show or movie with a straight white male lead who is competent and cool and who isn't constantly upstaged by women in years.

Not to mention, even the DCOMs are dead.

>>213879330
>>213879324
It's funny because you guys post that Stonetoss comic about the little mermaid all the time but then say "actually no, I need a self insert too" just as easily

starting to think the whole dead internet theory bot shit is real. look at this thread.

>>213879107 (OP)
Because they thought they'd be clever and double the audience by trying to pander the segments who weren't as active watchers. But this lead into the core audiences ditching the IP's and only the minor part of the new audience biting.

>>213879107 (OP)
Disney never had a male audience it was always for little girls.

>>213879107 (OP)
The funniest part is that Disney bought Star Wars and Marvel in the first place because they were struggling with male audiences. Then they went full feminist with them. With Star Wars they did it from the very first film and marketed it as such, with the Force is Female stuff.
>>213879403
>Hollywood is woke just because of muh capitalism
Then how come they never tried pandering to boys in any of their many female focused franchises?

>>213879107 (OP)
The problem is those properties the appeal is the aspect of violence. Disney does not do action.

>>213879107 (OP)
>They are ips for boys and young men but they can be for everybody.
that's how

>>213879194
Men hate women but it's in the South Korea way where the women there became such caustic unlikable cunts that the men stopped caring about them and doing anything for them, and actively laughing whenever one got assaulted or mugged

>>213879363
No, we just need a white male, because white males are better than bipocks or women. Simple enough for even you to understand, Rajesh.

>>213879363
You don't look like a woman. You look like a pedophile wearing a dress.

They still have a male audience

>>213879363
No one would've cared if they just created a new character instead of race swapping an existing one. If you want to appeal to women and minorities you can do it by not ruining existing IPs.

>>213879107 (OP)
>How did Disney lose their male audience while owning Star Wars and Marvel?
they began making really good money off women who will put on any fucking streamslop as 'background noise' and began catering to those types and making the shows required watching to fully understand the movies.

>>213879194
because their mothers call being gay "comfortable with their sexuality" and being naturally physically attracted to females is "incel behaviour"

>>213879525
You don't give new IPs that don't have characters that look like you a chance. Your protestations that you don't need a self insert are clearly wrong. You do.
>>213879510
I don't want to be a woman.

>>213879567
Freud was right, goddamn. Why do people doubt him again

>>213879568
i watched bad boys, rush hour, etc. just fine as a white boy though

>>213879479
Men literally get affirmative action there just for existing. It’s absurd. Imagine being a woman and working your ass off only for a man to promoted over you just for having a penis. That’s what they have to deal with there.

>>213879363
I never mocked people for wanting representation. I always called people out for wanting to take over franchises that were created by white men for white men and boys as the biggoted white men hating lefty weirdos they are.
Blacks and Woman always had their own frachises they just were never as popular as white male franchises for one reason or another but instead of fixing that weirdo lefty feaks like you decided that white men and white boys don't deserve anything and started putting those franchises full of woke crap.

>>213879568
>You don't give new IPs that don't have characters that look like you a chance
Everyone loved the first two Blade movies thoughbeit
And Angelina Jolie as Lara Croft

Disney has always been a female brand and they know it.

>>213879157
>>213879194
Women got their Sex and The City lifestyle for a generation. Hope they're ready for voting rights to be rescinded because of it.

>>213879487
How do you explain the Solo movie bombing? The series like Mando + Obi Wan etc.? The problem isn’t that they went to woke the problem is that they hired shit screenwriters who grew up with the hammy storylines of the prequels but also wanted to incorporate the Disney Magic (tm) into an already established canon. They fucked up royally by not just taking the EU of the Star Wars nerds of the last 50 years and putting it to screen. It’s a classic case of Wall Street thinking they know an industry better than the people who built the dang thing.

>>213879107 (OP)
>splashy adventures and treasure hunts
>for a generations suffering from tiktok brainrot and exploded lungs from vapes
Good luck

>>213879479
If all it takes for South Korean men to go absolutely ballistic is a single hand emoji, I’m not going to assume they were the reasonable party in that gender war.

>>213879610
You think women existing in anything is woke.

>>213879628
That’s literally why they bought Star Wars in the first place. They wanted the male demo

>>213879594
I don't fucking believe you

>>213879194
Probably because zoomer women are genuinely evil and treat men like shit for just existing

>>213879636
>women are having casual sex therefore we need to roll back all of the political achievements made during the 20th century

>>213879643
South Korea had a weird feminist death cult have influence in government for a while so I get it to some degree but they've been out of power for a decade so yeah. Also the King Chud government they have now is the least popular in generations so

>>213879271
>i've never heard of or seen a misogynistic gay man.
Oh sweet summer child.

>>213879680
I've seen this a million times. If they started having casual sex with him, he'd be completely mellowed out. Joshua Luna is a great example

>>213879668
It’s true. It’s partially why there is a bizarrely powerful feminist movement in there despite being a trad country.

>>213879679
>Probably because zoomer women are honest.
ftfy

>>213879718
So you admit that women withholding sex are the actual problem then?

>>213879648
you think that nothing is woke
Disney has made several Disney has made several Star Was animated shorts but they all only featured female warriors getting to do action. Meanwhile white male protagonists are almost nonexistent, and the few shorts we got with white male leads still depicted them as weak and incompetent, with them constantly getting rescued or beaten up by yet more girlboss characters.
So don't act like you have any postion to talk here.
You are some really out of touch werido who hates white guys for some reason.

>>213879679
>Average zoomer now
>"We want you to fucking obey us, be a tradwife, do as I say, pop out kids without questioning, and take care of me and I will do nothing. You shouldn't vote either I wish we had Islam"
Wonder why

>>213879680
>My house is on fire, therefore we need to throw water on it and ruin the floorboards.

>>213879747
Men playing video games instead of asking women out is the bigger problem.

>>213879568
>You don't give new IPs that don't have characters that look like you a chance.
and big studios never give white men a chance to be heroes anymore

>>213879271
Pretty sure one of the only dudes I know that will openly shit-talk women is a gay man.

>>213879648
You fantasize about kissing your dad's mouth as he penetrates you.

>>213879649
>That’s literally why they bought Star Wars in the first place. They wanted the male demo
Then why did they make it so female centric?

>>213879747
No one is doing that. Lower your standards. Women have to now too because men are losers now just like them. Society sucks

>>213879107 (OP)
Female mismanagement.

>>213879751
The only thing people liked about the sequels was Kylo Ren and the whole ReyLo ship. Kind of ironic

>>213879783
honestly i think because they wanted to increase the suicide rate among men, especially white men.

>>213879638
>How do you explain the Solo movie bombing? The series like Mando + Obi Wan etc.?
Don't literally all of those involve the main character getting cucked by girlbosses?

>>213879194
This was unironically always the plan

>>213879811
Solo was a male centric movie that actually mocked feminism and other woke shit.

>>213879727
It's cultural. When they were under the control of China, it was remarked how fucking brutal Korean men were to their women. Even missionaries who came there in the 19th century talked about it. I would argue that pre modern Korea probably had women treated the worst possible way of any civilization outside ones that engage in mutilation and honor killings. It's easier to understand their gender politics once you learn about this

>>213879830
There was literally a social justice droid

>>213879568
Explain the success of Blade then.

>>213879761
You are not a woman

>>213879845
Yes and she was comic relief. You were supposed to be laughing at her

>>213879830
I absolutely don't believe you and am calling you a fucking liar

>>213879107 (OP)
The elites intentionally ruined every popular franchise that white males love with girl bosses and black/brown characters. It's part of their Weimar style demoralization/divide and conquer agenda.

>>213879107 (OP)
Because this means nothing in the era of tiktok and Youtube. Zoomers don't care about movies and making them more manly won't change that.

>>213879107 (OP)
Frankly I don't think Disney has ever understood the "young male" audience.
I say this as a Walt Disney enjoyer. I don't think he could have made something that really appealed to young/young adult males. That just wasn't in his makeup.
Not in the way that something like Star Wars did. Walt couldn't have done that.
I think Walt was brilliant, and as an artist myself I respect him very much but...
Disney has an approach, that must stem from their core philosophy, which, in the 60's, 70's, and later in the 90's and 00's was great for making movies for young girls and families.
I think they've kind of successfully grown their appeal to include modern women of all ages - by that I mean Disney stuff seems to somewhat successfully appeal to young women who are college age or entering their 30's - mostly because they were girls who grew up with Disney movies and are under the magical spell of Disney nostalgia.

It's not about owning the brands.

Also I'm at a point in my life where I'm starting to think I should be paid for giving any more of this kind of advice.
I don't ask for much, my beliefs are adjacent to Buddhism - pay me at least minimum wage and I'll do a little consulting for you.

>>213879795
I mean Kylo Ren is honestly a great concept for a character
A Sith who thinks he is being seduced by the force to be good and who sees Vader not Anakin as the hero of the story.
Too bad he was turned into a weakling who got constantly beaten up by a girl with zero force training.
If he had been a real threat which Ray can't defeat with power and instead has to convince to be good again by adressing his emotions it would have made for something cool and unique.
Honestly the easiest way to fix the sequels woudl have been
Ep 7: Ends with Luke coming to the rescue and defeating Kylo, not Ray
Ep 8: Luke tries to train Rey but Kylo finds them before she can finsih her training and Kylo murders Luke while Rey flees
Ep 9: Kylo captures Rey and Snoke tells her to kill her to make his journey to the dark side complete but in the last minute she convinces him to do good and he kills Snoke instead

>>213879830
>mocked feminism
kek

>>213879830
Solo literally ends with a girlboss killing the villain and Solo having to apologize to yet another girlboss rebel leader.

>>213879107 (OP)
>The Force is FEMALE, you are not welcome
>The power of MAAAAAAAAAAAAAANY
>Where are the men? Fucking sexists!
Absolute retards.

>>213879638
>The series like Mando + Obi Wan etc.?
both these shows constantly emasculate the male lead to make women look good.
I think Mando espeially gets rescued by every female warrior he encounters at least once but never rescues them even once.
Even ends with Mando giving his sword to the girlboss because we can't have a male leading a group of eltie warriors to fight the empire.

>>213879107 (OP)
First problem is they are not trying to "bring them back" they are trying to catch them in the first place.
They haven't made anything that a teen would like for decades.
Even star wars isn't doing as well as it should because the only people interested are boomers that have been following the series since the first trilogy

Companies have this bizarre detachment from reality where they think everything works on numbers alone
>B-but we bought star wars, why isn't it quadrupling money?!?!
>What do you mean the films need to be good? IT'S STAR WARS!

>>213879915
>I mean Kylo Ren is honestly a great concept for a character
He's not. He's a retarded version of Darth Caedus, who was already retarded from the start. Fuck off.

>>213879932
Wut? Solo kills the villain at the end. Did we watch the same movie?

>>213879107 (OP)
Imagine how easy it would be to be successful with all the franchises they own, if they just dropped the political bullshit.
Also, imagine how great TV and movies could have been in the past ten years, if radical left-wing politics hadn't ruined everything.

>>213879965
Not canon. Also Caedus got killed by his girlboss apprentice.

>>213879965
Nah him praying to the helmet of Vader is the only scene in the sequels that I like.
It is honestly original and an intressting twist on star wars.

>>213879976
You're wrong on both accounts.

>>213879761
its either that or letting the zoomettes be whores that've fucked 100+ guys by age 20 and then expect you to settle for them at age 30
maybe if women had controlled themselves at all young men wouldn't have questioned why women were treated as property back in the day

>>213879976
Disney has been all about social engineering and activism since 2010. Frozen was the first “woke” film they made and its success went to their heads.

>>213879990
>Not canon.
And how does this disapprove what I said, retard?
>Also Caedus got killed by his girlboss apprentice.
You don't even know the story (admittedly, a really bad one, almost Disney Wars tier). Fuck off, reylo scum.

>>213879976
it isn't really leftwing. they just straight up hate white men and consider women and blacks as superior to them.

>>213879107 (OP)
The problem is women have a horrific in-group bias and men have a bias towards women. This has huge consequences not just creatively but also from a business perspective. What's to stop these new concepts and projects from being feminized like Marvel and Star Wars before it? Because there WILL be enormous pressure to do so from all angles.

>>213879107 (OP)
People live for the arts (entertainment, fiction). If you take that away from them then they have little left to live for, be inspired by, and believe in. This is what was done to Western men in order to demoralize them so that they would be far less likely to resist and fight back against the ongoing destruction of their society

>>213879993
No one cares what you like. The character was shit and only reylo sissies still like him.

>>213880055
This is what "leftwing" means now, hating white men. All the shit about economics is optional.

>>213880055
Women are superior to men

Not owned by Disney, but I remember all the moms posting about Adolescence, and how they're watching their sons very closely now. This ultra helicopter leftist parenting is a fucking disaster in the making, and they wonder why young men are checking out of society. Seriously, if you have a boy what entertainment is there for him that doesn't berate his existence? Maybe video games, and they're shitting those as well. They made their bed, let them suffer.

>>213880119
0 civilizations created or maintained by women thoughbeit

>>213880061
I'm fine with businesses failing when they are unable to treat women objectively. The problems happen when governments fail.

>>213880149
history is problematic, it must be rewritten

>>213880149
Women haven’t been in charge of anything thanks to sexism and being treated like literal property for almost all of human history.

>>213880122
>"Just let your sons get on /pol/ at 13 and let us groom and radicalize then you Karen"
No

>>213880061
No, it's happening because the globalists want to demoralize Western men. These decisions were all made by men at the very top of the global power structure

>>213880122
I'm gonna blame the victim him. I was born in 1987. It was never a problem for me to watch old stuff, including black-and-white cinema. I understood that vintage movies are different from the currently produced ones and that was never an issue. Yes, the industry kikes are fucking over zoomzooms left and right when it comes to culture, but it's not like each of them has a private rabbi who watches him all the time, preventing from watching kino.

>>213880280
it was a better time

>>213880291
>chuds whine constantly about gays grooming kids by just existing
>meanwhile they actively groom impressionable underage boys in their discords and chud sites like /pol/
Ironic

>>213880149
The funny thing is that civilization most likely emerged due to women. Early neolithic cultures were at least matrilocal and matrilinear if not matriarchal.

>>213880291
>Just tell your son he is pure evil for being white, and male, should kiss the ground minorities walk on, and that he's confused about his gender and he should take hormone pills and wear a dress

>>213880344
The most successful ethnicity in human history (Jewish people) are matrilineal. I think they might be onto something

>>213880280
and zoomer men see in real time why that was the case lol
modern women scoring the biggest own goal in human history

>>213880291
>radicalize
it's weird that only hardcore leftists ever accuse anyone else of radicalization.

>>213880347
Some men are fundamentally incapable of separating their sex from the actions of other individuals presented as bad. It's pretty interesting.
>"Here is a man who did something bad and that is bad"
>"Why do you think I am bad?"
It's one of my favorite logical thinking gaps. It's this, Republicans who fundamentally cannot understand population density, minorities who cannot understand per capita, and Europeans who cannot understand free speech. Every group has their version of complete logical meltdown it seems

>>213879107 (OP)
>bunch of gays and old women that resent young men pretend to appeal to young men

Good luck. Disney is filled with idiots who will sabotage their attempts to appeal to young men for political reasons

Even during its best periods I don't think Disney films were EVER something that boys, much less twenty something men, watched. Alternativea like Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon came about exactly for this reason, Disney was always sappy safe stuff you watched with your parents.

>>213879594
It's compensation for military service.

>>213880435
>Some men are fundamentally incapable of separating their sex from the actions of other individuals presented as bad.
Oh no, men can make incredibly obvious inferences. Are you an idiot?

>>213880512
Ha, you're doing it. It really is like asking a minority about per capita. Thanks for making my day, Anon

>>213879882
>It's part of their Weimar style demoralization/divide and conquer agenda.
I still don't get it unless the goal is total destruction. Demoralize people to the point they don't want to do anything anymore. The solution? Just import another 10 million inbred browns for....votes that don't matter anyway. 10 million who don't want to work either and just want your gibs.

>>213880511
But why? It’s not like women don’t serve in the Korean military too.

>>213879594
>get your most productive years stolen to stand around "defending" against some nebulous threat
>women spend that time at school or working building wealth
>said men are given catch-up programs to make them equal to the women
>THIS IS SEXISM HOW DARE MEN AND WOMEN BE EQUAL WE NEED MORE FEMINISM
equality feels like oppression when you're used to privilege sweaty

>>213879107 (OP)
When is the last time Disney had a white male main character who doesn't get humiliated and cucked by women/minorities?

>>213879363
I was thinking about this after Gamescom. I just think people don't know what they exactly want except some form of interesting character hook. White characters tend to have good stories and other races don't simple as. Normal people aren't saying im angry because its another race to be honest, its that they are bored and worried that its going to be yet another boring game. Nobody tries writing characters in TV, movies, or games that really has a soul anymore. All the characters from old IP that were White all happened to have a lot of soul too. Nobody 2 bombed and it has a white male lead. Its because truthfully, the character of Nobody is soulless and just even worse written than Max Payne. People want hooks, soul or any reason to care.

Disney problems are that no characters have anything interesting about them. Happening to be diverse. Its like they said the diversity is interesting enough but don't know how to hook you in with its narratives because maybe bad writers or something.

Anyway this post deserves a youtube video essay I'll just stop here because I could type forever.

>>213880122
The worst thing is the kids do have their own little ecosystems where they can have fun and be by themselves (Except for the predators I guess) and naturally the fucking adults just want to get in there and tear it all down be it roblox or minecraft or anything else they're doing. People behave like hylics and can't put themselves in others shoes, so they forget what it was like being a kid and not wanting busybody moral tyrant adults meddling with you every step of the way.

>>213880344
That whole gaia theory nonsense is a load of horseshit. There's nothing to suggest matriarchy in Gobeke-Tepe and old Sumer and the like.

>>213880603
>incels are LESS misogynistic
How?

>>213879107 (OP)
They will continue to destroy pop culture for white males because that is the agenda. It will not stop. They just wish that more white males would actually WATCH them destroy their pop culture, rather than look away and try to ignore it. That way the subversion works more efficiently and does more damage.

>>213880583
In my experience most guys waste their twenties drinking and harassing women for sex. They aren’t “productive” at all during that time.

>>213880629
>There's nothing to suggest matriarchy in Gobeke-Tepe and old Sumer and the like.
Except DNA from Catalhoyuk where women were buried with richer grave goods than men.

>>213880620
John Carter, but only kinda, there was this one scene where she was "get behind me" but then the rest of the movie was fine.

>>213880538
You made my day by being a fucking retard lmao

>>213880581
All eligible men have to serve for at least one and a half years, there is no such requirement for women.

>>213880640
they don't actually interact with women, they interact with idealized images of women

>>213880651
>victim blaming
um big YIKES from me. do better

>>213880646
I wonder if some of them are starting to panic about their decade of woke agenda pushing has made a lot of zoomer boys very rightwing.

>>213880651
You are not and will never be a woman

>>213880298
>It was never a problem for me to watch old stuff
defeatist attitude. i see the demoralization worked

>>213880702
More zoomer women for me, then. I'm not one of those broccoli headed Tate weirdos

>>213880656
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/ancient-dna-reveals-that-men-moved-in-with-their-brides-families-in-this-neolithic-settlement-180986915/
>The scientists behind the new study are reluctant to draw conclusions about whether Catalhoyuk was a matriarchal society based on the burials alone. Matrilocality, or the practice of a man residing with his wife’s family, might have taken place at a “household level,” says co-author Eva Rosenstock, an archaeologist at the University of Bonn in Germany, in a statement, “but it’s not quite a matriarchate in the sense of women wielding power.”

>But Benjamin S. Arbuckle, an archaeologist at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill who was not involved in the study, has no such reservations. “If the sex patterns were reversed, there would likely be little hesitation in concluding that patriarchal power structures were at play,” Arbuckle writes in an essay published alongside the paper in Science. “This is reflective of the difficulty that many scholars have in imagining a world characterized by substantial female power despite abundant archaeological, historic and ethnographic evidence that matriarchal fields of power were and are widespread.”

The woman Eva is sober and reasonable and cautious. The man here here is drunk as a skunk on ideology and is trying to make reality do nothing but compart with his desires. Look at how viciously he starts to attack anyone who disagrees with the theory (including the co-author, a woman!) as somehow being motivated by sinister sexist/self-hating-sexist reasons.

These threads are always so funny.
>Oh no, my dogshit franchise for manchildren was ruined by women
lol

>>213880702
Just look how quickly they killed metoo after it backfired spectacularly. Men simply ignored women, or recorded everything. Then they blamed men anyway. Now they have to deal with pajeets too. It's hilarious.

>>213880702
The globalists themselves are not. It's one of their agendas. It's called social engineering.

>>213880727
zoomer women look inda nasty. most of them are some mystery meat as well

>>213879594
None of the bullshit office jobs women do are real anyway and men have to spend 2 years being treated like shit in the Korean military. Sorry. Society can never be truly equal because ultimately all the backbreaking jobs that actually make society function are male dominated.

>>213880651
This thread is about western countries not malaysia

>>213880764
so the globalists want zoomer to be rightwing?
why that?

>>213879157
it isn't the "girlbosses", just the incredibly cringe contrite way they went about it

these people have no sovl or vision, it was all about shoehorning some twitter spun social statement into whatever movie and anyone who criticized it and said "it's shit" was assumed to be a heckin' chud who opposed said social statement and cancelled and some ideologue from the politburo took their place, it is how things like this failed to get filtered

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHl6Jsgq600

now disney doesn't even know what it's doing wrong, because they are out of touch and banish any and all criticism and scrutiny and if any do realize they keep their lips sealed to keep their career, it is the death knell of an institution when it becomes an echo chamber

>>213880819
Gamers, we won

Basically Gen Z would rather game or watch youtubers/streamers rather than salivate over decades old franchises created by boomers.

Good luck making new ip that actually attracts people. Every time people say they want something new they still never show up.

Their solution? More black girl bosses

>>213880746
This is why I said they were matrlilocal if not matriarchal. Matrilocality in Catalhoyuk is a fact, but we can't be sure if they were also matriarchal. DNA can't answer such questions.

>>213880727
>he wants zoomer women
you do you, I guess

>>213880774
wait so both kinds of boys still mostly disagreed with feminism and it only became stronger over the years?

>>213880583
Women there have tried to get them to conscript females but men always refuse.

>>213879290
>Harvey was and is innocent
Lee Oswald? I agree

>>213880726
Elab. How me enjoying King Kong from 1933 at the age of 10 was defeatist?

>>213880752
picking up someone else's dog shit and playing with it is still worse, comrade

>>213880640
because they don't talk to women. simple as

>>213880727
>More zoomer women for me

>>213880863
because then they'd have to carry worthless women through military service
women just want in on the gravy train knowing full well they'd never be able to meet the same physical benchmarks the men do and the rules would be adjusted on their behalf

>>213879107 (OP)
less "diversity"
less broads except one cute girl as love interest and maybe a mother
a present father
less concerns about "global appeal"
no homos

>>213880822
They know exactly what they are doing. Disney is controlled by the globalist elite. And they are purposefully destroying these franchises for white males in order to demoralize them. It's subversive warfare. Look up Weimar Germany. Same type of tactics as back then.

>>213879679
Sounds like a skill issue. I’m a man and have not been treated badly for just existing. Maybe people treat you badly because you’re an asshole.

>>213880822
>these people have no sovl or vision, it was all about shoehorning some twitter spun social statement into whatever movie and anyone who criticized it and said "it's shit" was assumed to be a heckin' chud who opposed said social statement and cancelled and some ideologue from the politburo took their place, it is how things like this failed to get filtered
I mean all of that is basically covered by saying "girlbosses"

>>213880920
Ok if they guys are so superior then they really shouldn’t need affirmative action then.

>>213880819
What happened at the end of 2019 that broke the camels back?

someone tap the sign already please holy shit

>>213880774
>>213880819
>>213880848
>>213880878
>the more boys/young men interact with the real world the more they realize how fucked it is
>the less they interact with the real world they more convinced they are everything is fine
really gets the noggin joggin dont it

Let me refine this a little >>213879913
>Also I'm at a point in my life where I'm starting to think I should be paid for giving any more of this kind of advice.
>I don't ask for much, my beliefs are adjacent to Buddhism - pay me at least minimum wage and I'll do a little consulting for you.

Pay me a commission/lump sum, just below taxable income in my state, and find me someone capable of talking with me comfortably about very deep and taboo topics - who will relay my ideas up the chain to people who matter at Disney Corp. - and I'll discuss one-on-one/present ideas to groups/write essays about male psychology as a consultant, for the rest of the year.
Pay me the same in following years, and I will do the same each year I am paid.

If you are a Disney employee reading this and are interested in discussing this offer, we will find each other.

>>213880945
Well you're clearly an asshole so you haven't been treated badly for that, either

>>213880964
2020 was a year of mass woke psychosis

>>213880880
Old shit is for nazis and chuds.

>>213880977
no one asked the first time, notice the only response to your first post is your own post just now?

>>213880954
when women can do the same things men do, they can get conscripted and receive the same benefits. that's equality, isn't it?
until then, we need to implement equity policies to benefit disadvantaged populations and you're a chud if you disagree

>>213880926
You're delusional. Zoomers don't give a shit about movies period. They don't care if the shit is good, masculine, or whatever. Shit like Minecraft becomes popular because of memes, because they could trash the theater, record it and post it on social media.
You have thousands of old movies. Do you think zoomers watch Chicago? Or Lawrence of Arabia? Or whatever, fucking Peckinpah?

It's unironically over for big budget movies, and not because of some meme feminism.

>>213880968
There is no need for mass mobilization anymore, Anon. Shit gets solved because the US president says so, at worst we throw a few bombs. Dubya ensured we're never going to have a boots on ground war ever again.

>>213880973
simps ITT literally will not touch these graphs
they need you to believe that misogyny is an aberration from too much screen time and not the default male response to life in the modern world

>>213879271
what? gays hate women so much they'd rather eat cum and get fucked in the ass then have a physical relationship with a vagina

>>213879194
Because women married the government and continuously support giving it more power (taking away power and wealth that individual male citizens used to have, and would share with their families). They were always too low IQ and emotional to vote rationally in a democratic system.

>>213879747
>take away birth control
>take away abortion
>take away social programs that support single mothers
>”if you can’t shoulder the responsibility of parenthood, then don’t have sex”
Why are women withholding sex?

>>213880626
This is not the face of an action star.

>>213881018
>Chicago
I'm fucking retarded, I meant Chinatown.

>>213881003
My offer probably does not concern (You).

>>213881049
Guys like this would have been two time Obama voters ten years ago, now you've ensured they're Republicans for life because you mocked their appearance. Hope the jokes were worth your rights being stripped.

>>213879430
Marvel and Star Wars wasn't always owned by Disney and they were male centric. Also Disney made sure to tear those two franchises

>>213881086
>Hope the jokes were worth your rights being stripped.
women are literally incapable of thinking ahead and understanding consequences. they will be bewildered when the hordes of virgin zoomers are implementing the state mandated wife program

>>213881049
>take away birth control
didn't realize USA banned condoms

>>213881118
And they were shit. Like they're shit now. Grow up, you fucking retard.
The problem isn't feminism, the problem is that those dumb franchises dominated American cinema in the first place.

>>213881131
No, they'll be correctly pointing out that this was similar to the dystopian fiction you insisted was just fetish based projection.

>>213881131
They should try not being fuck ugly losers then and maybe they wouldn't be virgins

>>213881170
>>213880603

>>213881160
Well then they should be like Katniss or General Leia, and start a Resistance dot trademark.

>>213881049
Maybe women should lower their standards then? You know, for women’s rights?

>>213880816
Left and right are rather hollow terms. They want people to be angry, divided, distracted, and radicalized. It helps speed up the collapse of society, and the creation of the new totalitarian surveillance society that will follow.

>>213881170
lmao you WANT ugly incels if you want to preserve male feminism. men that get pussy hate women and want them back in the kitchen

>>213879271
A lot of male friend groups have that one "friend" who is the literal punching bag for the rest of the group. No one likes him and they don't care if he never comes back. But he always comes back because he has no where else to go.
For gay men this is women. Except women are too retarded to realize that when gay men make fun of them its because they legitimately hate them. But women, being too egotistical and vain, just go "hahaha, my gay friends are so sassy! Just like Sex in the City! Aren't I such a good person being friends with a gay men!?!"

>>213879107 (OP)
Why don't they just make a new Star Wars trilogy but make it not gay?

>>213879107 (OP)
They never had the male audience. Disney is totally incapable of making media that appeals to men. Marvel and Star Wars were huge IPs before their acquisition. Disney bought the Lambo and promptly crashed it into a divider because they don’t know how to handle it.

>>213879594
>Imagine being a woman and working your ass off
I'll take Shit that Doesn't Happen for 600, Alex (RIP)

>>213879107 (OP)
Stop undermining your male characters, both new and legacy. Let them be badass. How about a lead male in a musical that isn't : a criminal/trickster, anti-social or a kid. You have to go back, what 25+ years for one?

Stop being afraid of romance in your film and also don't be afraid of making it sexy. Make the girl attractive, make the guy attractive, make them want to suck each other's faces off.

Stop making every lead girl either "adorkable" or personality free, flawless "Strong Female Character"

>>213881252
That’s like asking a scorpion to not sting you

>>213881269
>Marvel
Marvel wasn't even a thing before Disney bought it. They literally had to sell rights to different characters to different companies.

>>213879271
so you've never actually met any gay men, got it

>>213881286
There’s literally nothing wrong with the dashing rogue archetype. Women like men with a criminal edge and men like watching those characters. I agree with you on the romance thing. Disney seems totally allergic to heterosexual romance.

>>213879107 (OP)
disney never had a male audience though, it was always for little sisters

>>213881157
You losers are just washing your hands of it all. Mind your own fucking business next time.

>>213879594
>working your ass off
ie getting on your knees and giving some ugly old jew head
or posting a tiktok of you wandering around doing nothing while getting paid more than the men getting "unfairly" promoted over you

>>213880583
Women are the real victims of war

Walt made stuff for guys.

this thread is like reading the twitter replies lol

>>213881252
Such an obvious solution not being attempted shows these corporations are not about money maximizing. Disney makes billions of dollars and views making Star Wars shows and movies as something to buy with their money, like a nigga who buys a rolex

>>213881370
Snow White was not for guys.

>>213879107 (OP)
What Disney did with marvel & Star wars was like buying a successful steak house and then changing to a vegan menu because you wanted to expand your clientele forgetting that people who eat steak was the reason for your success

>>213881157
You can cope all you want but there's a reason this news is being released. But keep doing the same shit cause all the Bro Tubers are raking in millions for a reason.

>>213879107 (OP)
They spent $4 billion to buy boy brand star wars then immediately turned it in to a franchise of girlbosses aimed at gays and little girls. Disney does this to themselves, it's a self inflicted wound. If they bought skibidy toilet they'd somehow make it lame and gay and put girlbosses in it

>>213879830
>Solo was a male centric movie
Yes and it's a pity it has been since the nineties that anything has been done with it not to mention that it wasn't even a disney ip to begin with.
Other than those two things top marks.

>>213880620
Tron Legacy. It was a kino rock opera. Absolutely shocking Disney allowed it to be made

>>213881358
so true queen. we have to watch our husbands and brothers die and live with that pain for another 50 or 60 years

>>213881215
nah they would want men to be demoralized and depressed. angry when toble empires. a big group of angry men is the last thing they want

>fire talented men like Jon Lassester
>hire mediocre women to replace them
The whole "mediocre white man" thing was just projection. Women just stink.

>>213879107 (OP)

Short answer? By abandoning classic storytelling.

>>213880822
pretty sure old school conservatives would chastise us for placing so much stock in pop culture and mass media in the first place, whether it is 1970s kino or current slop

imagine how much more meaningful and impermeable our childhood inspirations would be if it were one of wagner's operas or reading classical literature, but of course it stopped being like that before we were born, boomers got bored of it and told us it was dorky, that instead we must consoom whatever the corporations are selling us

>>213880950
"girlbosses" doesn't explain why previous girlbosses were fine while the present ones are cringe

>all of that
not everything can be explained in a short quip, jeez

>>213880651
Weird I got a medical degree and did residency in my 20s. I also drank and chased skirts because I’m not a fruitcake

>>213879194
Women did this to themselves, especially feminists

>>213879107 (OP)
>young men (ages 13-28
I feel old now

>>213879194
>>213879363
>Laura Croft
>Ridley
>Sarah Connor
>The Bride
>Leeloo
>All the women of Firefly
Rub both your brain cells together and acknowledge that maybe this generation of writers deserve a smidge of criticism for pushing the same snarky girlboss character looking directly into the camera lecturing the audience and getting mad when no one likes it for the 50th time

>>213879271
You don't have any gay friends lmao, get them talking without a woman present and they turn into Florence Nightingale

>>213880929
pretty sure old school conservatives would chastise us for placing so much stock in pop culture and mass media in the first place, whether it is 1970s kino or current slop

imagine how much more meaningful and impermeable our childhood inspirations would be if it were one of wagner's operas or reading classical literature, but of course it stopped being like that before we were born, boomers got bored of it and told us it was dorky, that instead we must consoom whatever the corporations are selling us

>>213880950
"girlbosses" doesn't explain why previous girlbosses were fine while the present ones are cringe

>all of that
not everything can be explained in a short quip, jeez

>>213879194
Yeah the average zoomer does not give a flying fuck about women, jews or faggots. This is partially demographics.The average 20s male in America is a Groyper.

>>213881324
Disney female leads:
>near flawless
>only growth is to be less naive and to believe in themselves more because they were already amazing
>if they choose to get the guy they just get him naturally with no concessions made

Disney male leads:
>deeply flawed character
>isn't a worthy person until those flaws are fixed and he becomes better
>has to win over the girl by improving and prove himself to her

Doing the dashing rogue turns good thing once or twice is fine but it's been what The Hunchback of Notre Damme since Disney did a musical where the lead male wasn't one of the archetypes? He didn't get any girl either.

>>213879330
They also turned Indiana Jones in to a miserable depressed cuck and tried to replace him with Fleabag. They turned Han Solo in to a lovable orphan with a heart of gold who only became a smuggler to impress a girlboss, who also cucks him.

>>213881405
>for a reason
Zoomers are just retarded. It's easily the dumbest and least talented generation in the last 100 years.

>>213881451
That’s a self report on your upbringing. My kids listen to Jazz, Wagner, and read Greek mythology alongside Tolkien

>>213881430
They want them angry at very specific groups of people. Like women and black/brown people. Which is why those groups of people are used to ruin white male entertainment with.

Fuck women. Women can suck my dick

>>213879271
Being gay was literally the original definition of misogynist.

>>213879767
>>213879787
>"bro stop playing videogames and just ask her out"
>*ask her out*
>go through a literal humiliation ritual

No thanks

>>213879454
Their goal from the beginning was to feminize men and destroy "toxic masculinity " Aka every male hero archetype boys used to think was cool.

>>213881572
Dealing with rejection is unironically easier than going on an actual date I agree.

>>213879594
>Men literally get affirmative action there just for existing. It’s absurd. Imagine being a woman and working your ass off only for a man to promoted over you just for having a penis.
foids actually love it when a retarded 6' 5" chad gets promoted despite being completely incompetent. they only seethe when it's nice guy incels who get promoted.

>>213881433
We all know this from childhood.
>group of boys get together, create games and fun out of nothing with complex rules and competition
>1 girl shows up; tries to be "one of the boys" but it's cringe; no one wants to be mean to her
>ruins the entire dynamic because we all have to pretend Brenda isn't an idiot

>>213879552
Disney + has terrible ratings and is underperforming in subscribers though

>>213879727
>>213879842
sounds based to me you retarded sluts. foids shouldn't even be in the workplace, let alone eligible for promotion lol.

>>213879680
Oy vey, goyim!

>>213880851
Who cares?

>>213881607
>one asshole likes Brenda and defends her constantly and treats everyone else like they're the problem
>another boy gets with Brenda
>group is forever destroyed

>>213879590
People "discredited" Freud because his observations were deeply upsetting to a lot of people for many reasons. The older I get, the more I believe he was right in almost everything he developed.

>>213881594
Problem is that they don't just reject you, they humiliate you and make you feel like absolute shit, it's also very draining for a guy to not be able to talk to a girl without being seen as a creep who just wants to fuck her, especially if you're unattractive
A lot of guys feel that way so they never try

Funny thing is that women do like that attention of a guy asking her out, doesn't mean they'll treat you any better or agree to go out with you, but they love it because women love being desired despite what they tell you, they also love to humiliate men, both things make them feel powerful and gives them an ego boost

>we a reaping what we sowed
ahhh no no no this wasn't supposed to happen aiiyyeee

>>213881665
lol yeah it’s always the simp guy and the guy who eventually ends up fucking her that ruins the dynamic since people end up taking sides. Also for some reason guys look down on women who have fucked other dudes in the group so they also don’t really want to hang out with them either

>>213881665
kek spot on

>>213881701
Lol, yeah. In reality you're too afraid of rejection so you don't even try. There's always porn anyway.

>>213881490
No kids pre star wars were listening to opera and reading dostoevsky. They were reading comics and playing with toy soldiers and shit. Get real. You sound like one of those retarded moms who makes their baby listen to classical music in the womb because it'll make them smarter.

>>213881309
You must be a fucking zoomer. They sold the right to Spider-Man to Sony and that movie made a mountain of money. They didn’t want to miss out so they made their own movie studio and put out banger after banger. The visual style and marketing of marvel movies changed markedly after the acquisition.

>>213881688
He was right about nearly every observation he had, his cocaine based treatments were the only thing he got wrong

>>213881839
>He was right about nearly every observation he had
Can you name some? I was always very skeptical of him.

>>213879107 (OP)
Because woke, that’s why- but it’s dead now so we’re back to business

>>213881750
In reality you're a pathetic retard whiteknighting for a sex that would throw bs rape accusations at you after dating them to ruin your entire life just for so they could attention and adoration from others.

>>213880727
okay PEDOsTINY

>>213879107 (OP)
>be disney
>have princesses, bitches love princesses
>non fag dudes hate them
>idea.bulb
>buy marvel and star wars for male audience
>make successful movies for boys
>decide to expand audience
>pander to people who never cared
>everyone leaves
somebody post the this is our thing > not made for you pic

>>213881837
I'm early Millennial.
>They sold the right to Spider-Man to Sony and that movie made a mountain of money.
And why they did that? Because they were going bankrupt. And Spider-Man is still popular.

>after the acquisition
When Disney created MCU. But what's your point? MCU was extremely successful.

>>213881855
>I was always very skeptical of him.
Read his books. Modern Academia and reddit wanted you to grow up skeptical of him so you'd never give his source material a chance.

>>213879767
nah, it's closer to people refusing to interact with other people in the flesh
everything social is mediated by algorithms through phone apps

>>213881995
Dating apps really are like porn for women. They should be banned

>>213879363
Bro, when their screenwriting is so on the nose about their leftism and hatred of white men. I just check out.
These people are NOT capable of writing anything competent.
I enjoyed weapons. They should stop making these big fuck up movies and just buy and produce small screenplays.

>>213881940
Enough with the pandering misinformation. They are not trying to pander. They are intentionally ruining those franchises for white males. It's subversive warfare.

>>213879767
men that play fewer video games have a higher opinion of women and stronger belief in women's rights

>>213881766
you are just so brainwashed you can't imagine it any other way, in the past young men, many teenagers, would go on the "grand tour", visiting art galleries, cathedrals and ancient roman ruins, all the things that would make chud go "vgh", a certain someone was a big fan of Wagner too

>>213879767
>>213882036
*that play more video games
switched directions mid sentence
>>213880819

>>213882041
>young men, many teenagers,
conveniently leaving out this was only something the aristocratic youth did
some random farmer's kid was not taking a grand tour of europe you faggot. maybe .5% of the population even had the option of going on a tour like that

>>213881750
In reality you're a pathetic retard whiteknighting for a sex that would throw bs rape accusations at you after dating them to ruin your entire life just so they could get attention and adoration from others.

>>213879913
I agree- as a writer I immediately tried to come up with some pitches after seeing the OP which I usually do when these types of topics come up but every single thing I immediately told myself “they’ll never greenlight that” and I found myself deconstructing it to make it as lame as possible, if Disney is serious about this they’ll need to go all the way in into an era they’ve never breached, I’m talking beyond “Cars” if they want that demographic back.

>>213882041
In reality chuds are dumb niggers. They don't care or know much about art, culture, civilization and so on.
Just look at this thread, people cry about comic books adaptations, lol. The same is true for all those anti-woke morons on youtube.
Drinker's top 5 is an absolute joke.

>>213879913
Terrifying that warhammer becomes more like Star Wars every day.

>>213879363
>I need a self insert too
Last I checked no one has been asking for short fat stinky acne riddled ugly male mutts as the lead in any film. They want competent, likable attractive yet believable leads... clearly not self inserts.

>>213880000
He’s correct.

>>213880344
Lol, lmao even.

>>213879107 (OP)
>Numerous studies show that Gen Z men in particular are a lonely, gaming-obsessed group who were hampered in their formative years by COVID-19 lockdowns — not the easiest segment to grasp. But what’s surprising producers, writers and other partners in the larger industry is that Disney has been calling for original concepts to lure the demo back to the movies.

For starters maybe lets not insult those people who you are trying to appeal to like in that paragraph.

>>213880344
civ emerged because we learned how to farm, and farms have a tendency of being hard to move quickly, so towns developed

>>213879194
>plus genuine hatred of women is common now
Not nearly common enough

>>213882276
I swear to god, levels of self-awareness have plummeted the past ten years.

>>213882293
every day my hatred of women grows stronger

>>213880344
You shouldn't get your "history" lessons from DC Comics

>>213881839
Fraud mostly interviewed neurotic jews, so you have to treat all his findings with a grain of salt and view it under that lens. He's only right insomuch as his "findings" did correctly identify the issues with the people he worked with, and he had a huge impact on how all future media, which is also run by neurotic jews, was crafted and and influenced those most susceptible to its influence: women

>>213879680
Why is it that for all of the years previous to that women weren't given many rights?

>>213882316
I got it from recent archeogenetic studies.

>We also found the first direct indication of female-centered practices in Neolithic Southwest Asia, a question of frequent debate. This female focus identified in Çatalhöyük is in sharp contrast to patterns observed in later European Neolithic sites, which have their origins in Anatolia. Many of these European societies show evidence of patrilocality—where males stay within their natal community upon attaining adulthood and females move out—and elaborate burial treatments that are frequently associated with males. The Çatalhöyük evidence now shows that such male-centered practices were not an inherent characteristic of early agricultural societies.

>>213882344
sexism duh. men were just jealous of what women could accomplish and needed to keep them down
imagine all the wars that could've been avoided had women just run the world

>>213882344
>women weren't given many rights
Same with men.

>>213879430
probably not in your lifetime but davy crockett is kino

>>213882348
>tfw neolithic chuds evolved simultaneously in every society and put women in their place

I was happy about the title but then I read through the thread. Jesús Christian you guys already made this topic borin. Go back to your dafne astroturfing threads as they replace wolverine with x23 cause you guys genuinely have no personality besides gooning.

>>213880822
They just don't understand that men and women are fundamentally different or that women also enjoy watching movies with masculine male characters and not masculine female characters. 99.9% of women don't want to be soldiers, firemen or police officers. Many of those roles in society have been undermined explicitly so women could be given roles in them but they are a complete net negative.
Like the WNBA.

>>213882348
False, biased observations and conclusions.

>>213882400
no it was the heckin evil indo-europeans that slaughtered the peaceful goddess worshippers that populated the world in the before times
don't think too hard though about how a small population of nomads managed to conquer sedentary farming societies and radically alter their culture to the point the original culture was completely obliterated in only a few hundred years
matriarchy is the superior system!

>>213879107 (OP)
Because they didn't their Star Wars and Marvel crap being released by Disney. A company that makes kids movies.

>>213882561
Nah, many Euro farmers were already patrilocal. Long before Indo-Europeans.

Was elio and strange world Disney atmpt to market towards boys?
Disney has suffered a long time to not just be the girl brand, buying Pixar was an early attempt buying marvel comics star wars this was all to just instil a new male base and then insert more things into it to appeal to girls which ruins the whole fucking point of trying to appeal to boys but I am sure when they buy fortnight this will change this time for sure

>>213882673
wrong. that's sexist to even make that claim. everyone was matriarchal until the evil outsiders came and ruined our gynocentric paradise

>>213882149
>Shows men as strong
>portrays masculinity in a positive light
>Shows that good deeds are often difficult and that victory usually comes at a great cost
>faith actually works and can give you the power to do incredible things
>Traitors, backstabbers, and sexual deviants are reviled or punished
>evil is real, demons are real, and by giving in to your worse instincts you become their pawns
>violence IS the answer and it's what keeps the worst of humanity in check

It's getting more progressive now but it's still a thousand times better than cuck wars.

I am a male. A relatively young male.
I've been appealed to. I know what appeals to me.
Have gone on a very long journey into religious studies, depth psychology, the occult, and philosophy (in roughly that order) - because I've had an impulse since I was about 14 to create something of my own, in the manner of the things I liked. Something people like me would enjoy.
I believe I could tell you with confidence, with a measure of common decency/politeness, and without (too many) insults, what appeals to young males. I was a young male myself once, a fan of things like Star Wars and Alien.
I would know.

I will tell you what I have learned, for a price.
A price which I think is more than reasonable, considering what rewards could be.

>>213879271
>i've never heard of or seen a misogynistic gay man

>>213882904
I work at Warner Bros.
How does a $100m 5-movie deal sound?

>>213879107 (OP)
I thought they only really cared for kids like 1-7 and then those fanatic adults honestly

Will be very tough to pull off because i'm sure all the RLMs, John Campeas, breadtubers and similar commentators and critics will be jumping at the bit to subvert all this to their own ends like they've done with everything from Star Wars to Transformers. Wouldn't be surprised if they're already at it.

>>213879107 (OP)
They do nothing new. They either do reboots or rebadge ideas from other movies. They’re just too bland, too corporate.

They've spent years telling males that they suck and that men are over. Why are they so surprised? They won't take even the slightest shred of responsibility for it either. Corporate executives truly live in a different universe

>>213882957
Part of what I am looking for, part of the deal: I would be looking for anonymity and a quiet/private life.
That would be too much money and put me in too much of a spotlight.
Not that I believe you're actually offering.

>>213882998
>jumping at the bit
"Chomping" is a forgivable mistake, this is just retardation

>>213879107 (OP)
>Disney
>Hollywood creatives
lol the blind leading the blind.

how are superhero movies supposedly losing popularity yet they're still shitting up this board 24/7

>>213883082
As it turns out astroturfed shilling is not a good indicator of actual popularity and success.

>>213879107 (OP)
I blame Red Letter Media.
They shilled the Anti-White Male Woke Propaganda made by Disney and other globo Corpos.
Mike Stoklasa especially shilled woke trash like The Acolyte and tried to brainwash people into saying it was good.

>>213883054
it's a 4chan post not a fucking thesis

>be Disney
>monopoly and iron grip on the little girl princess audience
>buy one of the major little boy IPs
>try to turn it into a little girl IP

hilarious stuff, feminists are rancid people

I have a soft spot for disney hand drawn animation and the potc films. even their 50s family/adventure slop was fun. Damn I miss old disney. last one I enjoyed was princess and the frog

>IPs
>Halloween corridor
Ok what are they buying
>saw
>Halloween
>friday the 13th
>Nightmare on elm street
>scream
They have the check book what will they pick up?

I could see them trying to buy terminator for some sorta cross over with predator and aliens but Cameron is probably too busy with blue cat people to notice a potential offer

>>213879767
>Ask her out
>She films it and puts it on til tok calling you a loser

>>213879107 (OP)
Putting women in charge of creative fields was a mistake. Especially casting agents.

>>213883109
Read a book

>>213881118
Would left

>>213880119
No, they’re not. We’re equal and both should be treated as such.

>>213883157
Who's "we"? You and the mouse in your pocket?

>>213883127
Women are not in charge. Globalist men make all of these decisions. But they want ordinary men to think that it's women who are ruining all of their favorite franchises. It's a deception. A puppet show.

>>213883145
I will if you promise to stay out of young male entertainment

>>213883219
Deal. I suggest "Augustus" by John Williams.

>>213879363
I don't need a self insert, just give me a cool male lead. Women aren't cool and never will be

>>213883199
Tranny hands typed this post

>>213883199
I engage with Hollywood production companies every day and they are definitely infested from top to bottom with idiot women.

>>213879638
Doing a Han Solo trilogy instead of the sequels would have been huge. The problem was they shit up the franchise with the sequels and everyone got wise to the franchise being a scam.

I bought so much star wars franchise over the years and I just stopped when disney took over. Video games, books, midnight showings for movies. They fucked with their dedicated fan base that would have kept the IP thriving for decades.

>>213879107 (OP)
They kept listening to women and women focus groups (particularly women from California and New York)

It is the same with video game companies listening to Sweet Baby Inc.

>>213881448
A woman retains her value, a man earns his. A man’s journey just naturally lends itself to storytelling (ie the need for a conflict). That’s not to say there aren’t fantastic stories about women, I’d just say there’s a higher degree of difficulty

>>213879680
>It's an achievement even though it leads to a worse and weaker nation because.... IT JUST IS OKAY!!!!!

Advice to anyone else in the thread who isn't a shill or a bot.
Stop posting.
Say nothing.
Keep your secrets to yourself.
If you give them ideas for free, all they're going to do is try to sell them back to you, and they'll fuck up doing even that.

>>213881701
Have you considered just not being an insecure faggot? Shoot your shot and don’t give a fuck at what she says. She’ll either let you stick it in her ass or you move onto the next one. Who cares?

Ps this exact attitude will make you more attractive to women

>>213879990
He kind of kicked her ass. They fight 2 times in the last book. In the first one she ambushes him, he kills all her men, gets his arm chopped off, shrugs it off, and he still wins the fight because he's far beyond her level in force power. I think he fries her with electricity and some other character helps her escape. In their 2nd fight he's trying to stop a nanovirus from being deployed and let's himself die at the end.

>>213881719
Low value male group detected. You will never understand how based it is to have groupies

>>213881944
Disney didn’t create the MCU. Marvel studios did. The first Disney marvel movie was the Avengers in 2012 ffs. It was already well on its way. Disney didn’t last 7 years with Marvel before the wheels started falling off (endgame in 2019).

>>213880280
If someone has to "let" you lead you're a terrible leader

>>213883890
yeah those pathetic literal children not being chads with harems of their own
fuck off roastie

>>213879107 (OP)
Because they tried, with Star Wars at least, to make them girl properties, which no boy wants.

Also the sequels narratively killed Star Wars as a mythology. A lesson to be learned: never let Jews get ahold of a good story.