Thread 213914278

people really think don draper is some giga-chad role model when the entire point of mad men is that he’s a hollowed-out man child larping as an alpha. The man threw a tantrum when his secretary wife wouldn’t eat ice cream for fuck sake.
dude’s whole identity is stolen, his “confidence” is just repression + alcohol, and every time he wins it costs him literally everything meaningful in his life (wife, kids, reputation, friends). it’s not “wow he smokes, drinks, cheats = “based masculinity” it’s “this guy is a fucking loser desperately trying to prove to himself and others that he is not weak and degenerate” if you think he’s the way a man should be you are literally doing what he does. Buying into fake consumer bullshit

this was a soap opera for men, if you watched it you're a faggot, if you watched it and put this much thought in to it you're a bottom faggot

That's bullshit. The whole point was that he was awesome.

>>213914297
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>>213914297
If don draper was here he'd rape you so fucking fast

>>213914297
you spend a lot of time thinking about makes a man gay huh? how deep does that closet go?

>>213914278 (OP)
Do zoomers really?
Literally nobody watched it thinking he was a role model

>>213914383
Don Draper (the character) is different than Don Draper (the aesthetic)

>this guy is a fucking loser
He's just DAMAGED.

I was visiting my parents and watched like four episodes of this with my dad. Acting was absolutely horrible, from everyone. Dialogue was really weird? Like every character stops speaking and theres a whole beat before the next person speaks. Totally unnatural and low quality. All of the period-accurate “references” are Forest Gump bad and just in poor taste.

>>213914278 (OP)
You make a good point but the problem is that regardless of his psychology and the toll his narcissism and role playing takes on his life, the simple fact is that he still fucks hot chicks and that’s all that really matters to people who idolize him. They don’t want stability or family. They just want 10/10s to slob on their knob

>>213914404
So Patrick Bateman (the meme) is different than Patrick Bateman (the vibe)?

>>213914450
Yeah it do be like that

>>213914411
When Don bought that new Purple Lamborghini with his new bonus, I knew I was watching kino

>>213914411
why cause he grew up with whores, got to leave war early, got married, had kids, and became a rich influencer in his career?
sounds like an awesome life

>>213914278 (OP)
>“wow he smokes, drinks, cheats = “based masculinity”

The fact that everyone still only talks about and criticizes Don proves he has more lasting importance than /ourguy/ Pete.

>>213914419
But don't they look great? Just watch it with the sound down and enjoy the scenery.

>>213914521
It’s weird cuz he was scummier than Don but got a better ending/ arc

>>213914521
>Roger is miserable. I didn’t think you were.

>>213914564
Right, did you notice his combover in the later episodes?

>>213914419
It actually makes good references I like how they did it when Don went to like 4 different bars in a night and there were different kinds of patrons in every one, rich, poor, white, black, but all of them were listening to the Muhammad Ali fight

>>213914521
Watch it, Kenny

>>213914616
>none of them talk about "fucking niggers"
Bit unrealistic.

>>213914564
>scummier
how?

>>213914564
>Pete was scummier than Don
very debatable

>>213914278 (OP)
>puts on an act that leaves him very successful and respected
>audience respects this grift
NO YOU SHOULDN'T DO THAT

>>213914564
Pete's whole arc is that he basically stops himself from turning into Don and ends up much happier than him as a result

Like when people post pic related as an own
Don was lying in this scene

>>213914521
Pete is an asshole with a huge chip on his shoulder trying to be someone he's not. He eventually grows out of it.
Don is a fundamentally broken human being and never gets out of it.
Neither of them are evil or anything, this isn't The Sopranos.

>>213914278 (OP)
The whole series suffers from one fatal flaw out of the gate: it doesn't once address the Jewish elephant in the room. The real-life "mad men" that the show is based on were overwhelmingly Jewish, which racial identity is centrally explanatory of their character and behavior, but they are White-washed in this rendition, resulting in just another data point in a cloud of deliberately obfuscatory media.

>>213914728
>Don was lying in this scene
he was putting him down, are you on the spectrum?

>>213914663
Pete black mailed first

>>213914564
His arc ran out of steam and the writers slapped together a conclusion for him at the 11th hour, pretty much every character in mad men ended up like this by the last season

>all that money he makes
>all those women he fucks
>he's just pretending
Ok? So what he still has that life

>>213914779
Putting him down AND lying AND coping, one does not preclude the others. Are YOU on the spectrum?

>>213914779
It was a mean thing to say, sure, but it would've meant more if it was true
He's punking himself by having to lie

>>213914776
They're a wasp company. They try and push Maggie Siff onto one of the many jewish advertising firms when she first comes to them and Roger has to plumb the depths of the mailroom to find a jewish employee to highlight their diversity for their first meeting with her.

>>213914427
Female/faggot answer.
Don is the top dog and earned all of his wins.
You could maybe say he got lucky being so handsome but that's only part of it.

>>213914278 (OP)
he's good looking
none of that shit matters

Big part of his success is that he's very good looking, and he acknowledges it

>you're a very pretty girl. It's up to you to be more than that

>>213914834
>>213914776
You're both right

Power fantasies are usually surface level anyway. Being a rich handsome guy wearing nice suits and having an aloof demeanor would be awesome. Whether viewers want to drapermaxx and cheat on their wives, emotionally abandon their kids, and fuck over coworkers is up to their discretion.

>>213914776
Matthew Weiner is a fucked up dude, he mentions in interviews how he’s seething about some Jew joke one of his classmates made in prep school like 30 years ago. Super neurotic behavior

>>213914616
This is exactly the kind of narrowing of history that I find so unrealistic and embarassing. Nice that you can clap at the screen like a seal, though. Happy for you.

>>213914278 (OP)
Media literacy rates are in the gutter in America. Literally a country of white trash imbeciles.

>>213915141
Average kike.

>>213915077
>fuck over coworkers
I'm STILL seething over Lane.

>>213915141
I had a jewish classmate who liked to say Jesus Christ all the time. I felt offended by this so I started saying holy Moses whenever he was around.

>>213915281
I really don't see how you can blame anyone but Lane for that.

>>213914597
They started shaving his hair back more and more to make him look like he was prematurely balding due to stress. It was very intentional.

>>213914663
Don fucked mad hoes but it was on the level. except for the drunken secretary lay, he wasn’t one to take advantage of naïveté. All of Pete’s interests were taken in women/girls that he could coerce and hold power over, not seduce.

>>213914450
he's toasted

>>213915370
The realtor wasn't like that though

>>213914278 (OP)
a definitive "midwit" post

>>213915336
yeah I don't know what anon's talking about. Lane did that to himself, literally.