Thread 213915031

How can Disney win back the male audience /tv/?

>>213915031 (OP)
>my pov face fucking minnie

>>213915031 (OP)
hot, white women.
if disney still wants diversity, hot latina women.

the real villain is capitalism

>>213915031 (OP)
Zoomers only care about video game adaptations (Minecraft, FNAF, Super Mario Bros).

Other than that, they are happy to play their video games and watch videos on their iPhones.

>>213915031 (OP)
Four words:
>Awkwafina
>Tits
>Minge
>Arse
Simple as...

>>213915031 (OP)
pirates 6 which is just johnny depp staggering around drunk saying creative racial slurs for 90 minutes

>>213915031 (OP)
Have they tried adding nonwhites and girlbosses?

>>213915031 (OP)
Add more LGBTQ representation. They not want it, but they NEED it :)

>>213915119
no I think they need some attractive white women this time

Release it on tiktok in 120 parts.

>>213915031 (OP)
>spend decades catering to an entire demographic (women, blacks, foreigners) at the expense of another (males)
>"WHAHAAT haAAPPPENDED??
Stupid fucking assholes.

>>213915031 (OP)
An animated Hitler biopic called The Young Artist. Have Tom Holland voice Hitler.

>>213915031 (OP)
bring walt disney back to life, we know he is hidden away in a fridge in disneyland.
#freedisney

>>213915031 (OP)
They already have a franchise tailor-made for young men: Power Rangers. It's got great themes about teamwork, overcoming differences, and fighting evil in giant robots that will appeal to young boys and teenaged males. If that's not enough, it has crossover potential to nab older men thanks to the decades of series, toys, and spin-offs produced since the 80s. Disney should lean hard on Power Rangers cinematic universe as their "boy" brand to complement the Disney Princesses for Girls and the Marvel/Star Wars power couple for general audiences.

>>213915031 (OP)
should have bought Warhammer

>>213915253
>Disney should lean hard on Power Rangers cinematic universe as their "boy" brand to complement the Disney Princesses for Girls and the Marvel/Star Wars power couple for general audiences.
Except capeshit and Star Wars WERE for boys before Disney decided to lean hard on them.

>>213915342
These people really do not learn lol

>>213915031 (OP)
Bring back Eisner-era character designs

>woke became so normalised that execs forgot how to make films for men
>it's literally as simple as titties and explosions
>somehow this is a great mystery now

>>213915031 (OP)
>Damn, we need to appeal to straight white men, but they're evil and everything they like is toxic

>>213915031 (OP)
Vtubers vs Demons

>>213915381
>men only like vapid stupid shit
yea they're too smart they forgot how to write for moids

>>213915031 (OP)
action packed Duck Tales movie where Scrooge takes Donald and the boys across the world to find a treasure he buried away years ago and are constantly impeded by his old rival and partner Baron Bloodbilll

>>213915124
He said gen Z, not millenials.
I doubt zoomers or gen alpha even know who johnny depp even is

Is it finally time? A Kingdom Hearts kinography???

>>213915253
>They already have a franchise tailor-made for young men: Power Rangers
They sold that off already, owned by Hasbro now.

>>213915047
But chuds hate women. Especially the hot latina.

>>213915031 (OP)
>new YouTube grifter talking point just dropped

>>213915422
You're a male-presenting male, howbeit.

>>213915031 (OP)
Global adventures with treasure hunts do sound fun.
>>213915047
Fuck off dumb cunt.

>>213915031 (OP)
>Disney buys Onlyfans.
that's how

>>213915253
The problem is most of those things are already established properties for other studios, Amazon's got Bond, Fast and Furious is Universal, Paramount just got a firm grip on UFC to compliment its endless Cop Series/Airplane Crash/South Park/Star Trek stream.
They're trying to get more NFL content, and boost ESPN's streaming relevance, but it's just a fools errand. Disney has been the for girls kids station since it launched.
The only thing that brought the boys in was the sexy animations for the female characters.
It's their DNA

What about an unapologetically masculine semi-asshole protagonist who is never forced into a humiliation scene for the sake of a woman or brown?

>>213915531
I fap to rule 34 of disney princesses way way way more than I fap to onlyfans girls

>>213915443
>buried away years ago
Scrooge wouldnt bury his treasure

>>213915031 (OP)
Go all in on vidya and make a MOBA or WoW clone, film is dead medium.

>>213915031 (OP)
More girlbosses characters showing males* (whites males only) who is the best. More romance* (only white/asian women with black male is allowed). Villains needs to be explicitly stated as a straight white male. Movies and series dealing with real issues like the problem of being white, whiteness "ideology" and its consequences (war, guns, drugs, slavery, human traffic, holocaust, hate itself, fake news, rape, etc). Bonus points if using an old IP, franchise or brand (only acceptable if those franchises/IPs/brands have a significant majority of white consumers.)

>>213915031 (OP)
make canon mickey mouse pornography

>>213915031 (OP)
They can’t. Disney is addicted to blockbusters and you can’t hit those numbers without trying to attract largely disjoint demographics. Trying to overlap what radically different groups like is possible when you’re the only seller. Now that there are competitors, they can’t compete with the horde of smaller films that cater to the many demographics that Disney tries to lump together.

Example: previously, The Little Mermaid attracted the CGI crowd, the musical crowd, the kid crowd, and the classics crowd. At that time, nobody was better at CGI, musicals (animated), kid attraction, and literally no one was adapting HCA folktales. These days, they’re the leader of none of those groups and the many disjoint groups that would have come together now see the smaller movies on their own.

>>213915031 (OP)
It's absurd that they manage to fail, considering the franchises they own. Imagine what they could make if they just dropped the authoritarian left-wing ideology.

>>213915602
>Marvel Realm of Champions

>>213915031 (OP)
Have we tried just hiring competent writers? Why does nobody ever consider this option?

can they really not help themselves inserting some ugly female slop into a star wars or cape movie?

>>213915119
>Tits
>Arse

I think they’re cooked, that audience is never coming back. People don’t forget

>>213915031 (OP)
>bring young men back
But... I thought that they were making products for everyone? Every time someone raised a hand with a question the reply was, "yeah, that's not happening" and "they are not doing that".

>>213915031 (OP)
Star Wars is a huge IP for boys and men. Why don't they just make more Star Wars stuff?
... Oh, they decided Star Wars was going to target the female demographic? The IP went from a guaranteed golden goose to crapping out flop after flop?
... Oh...

>>213915031 (OP)
There's a way. But no one will like it.

Asians with big titties

>>213915825
Zoomers love Asians

>>213915047
uhh no? no thanks lol

that's not what people demand anymore

>>213915119
And to think, I hesitated

>>213915031 (OP)
By going out of business.

>>213915873
she is pretty pretty tho

>>213915873
i could practically smell the silicone from this webm

>>213915031 (OP)
by making male protagonists and characters that aren't necessarily relatable rather they should be the exaggerated or perfect version of what dudes like, think is cool, want to be or admire.

Cast Brie Larson, Rachel Zegler and The Acolyte girl. Black, Latinx and white people would love them, the movie easily gets a billie.

Skibidi Toilet Movie

>>213915773
competent writers aren't woke enough, they place creativity and producing meaningful kino above inserting cringy social statements into everything, also the incompetent writers basically run disney, so why would they fire themselves

>>213915031 (OP)
I hope this is fake or exaggerated. Companies like this need to keep investing non-stop in the propaganda machine.

>>213915119
They should have cast her as nezha's mom in the english dub instead of michelle yeoh

>>213915031 (OP)
the right answer is cute women with nice bodies, but they probably are going to double down on the woke factor

It took Disney 6 years of milking two cash cows. Also preaching at their auidience instead of entertaining.

>>213915981
damn the mermaid girl has a decent body literally shame about the face and race and her eyes being on the side of her head

>>213915031 (OP)
>>213915039
Make the most racist, sexist, mysoginist film ever seen.

>>213915150
let us know if one ever exists

>>213916014
won't work. a lot of zoomers are prudes and sexually traumatized from overdose of gayness in society.

>>213915992
You can only lose so much money before it stops being a viable business strategy.

>>213915031 (OP)
disney was never ever for males, it was always little sister content
if you watched disney channel as a kid you were a complete faggot

>>213915873
You see this genuine otherworldly beauty and you just feel the need to ask why can't we compete anymore? No western model is anywhere near as cute as this random Kpop(?) girl that I don't even know the name of.

>inb4 le surgery
Buddy we fucking pioneered that shit. Yet our broads are only getting uglier with it.

>>213915992
Review bombing has never affected a project that captured the successfully. They just can’t pretend their product is universally praised because nobody who wasn’t paid to say so gives a fuck about she hulk the series

>>213915031 (OP)
Leadership changes. There need to be heads rolling in the basket to soothe the wronged. What happened here was no minor incident but a yearslong sustained campaign. Then a show of good faith. A pure power fantasy. I'm thinking The Force Unleashed or something similar.

>>213916089
>Hercules isn't male focused
>Lion King isn't male focused
This is your brain on terminal contrarianism.

>>213916083
>viable business strategy.

Humiliate legacy male characters like Luke Skywalker and Indiana Jones and make them pathetic while elevating women.

>>213915031 (OP)
Honestly a great time to take another swing at Treasure Island

Who will be Long John Silver? My vote is for Idris Idris Elba

>>213916188
make it a blatinx drag queen and you've got a deal

>>213916178
Meanwhile China.

>>213916236
That's... problematic.

>>213916236
adorable

>>213915475
Cute boy

>>213915031 (OP)
Sell out to CCP but unironically.

>>213916248
nobody believed she is being catcalled

meanwhile, China is literally printing money making cheap colossal clusterfucks of pixels and story

>>213916090
it is pretty crazy that random tiktok girl mogs literally every western girl in movies and tv. it didnt used to be that way

>>213916248
This reminds me of the mom’s speech in the Barbie movie which is basically just a buzzfeed article. Completely took me out of it

>>213915031 (OP)
Deep stories with philosophical questions.

>>213916300
yeah that was fucked up plus it put the main character barbie below some random beaner girl? thematically I was confused

>>213916248
I absolutely cannot suspend my disbelief to imagine her ever being catcalled.

>>213915031 (OP)
I can help you.
I will tell you if you kiss me.
By which I mean pay me for my services.

And I do me I, myself, specifically, this anon right here, can help you.
All you have to do is ask. And pay me for my time.

>>213916291
but ne zha 1 and 2 are actually kinda good

>>213916248
>>213916284
Right.

>>213916346
Altho i agree with this comic whoever made it put way way too much thought intonthat retarded movie

>>213915861
what other classics could he try to copy after The Seven Samurai but in the space, The Wizard of Oz but they are gangsters in Tokyo.......

>>213916090
women are petty and jelly about other women and women control the purse in most releationships and now in the west have more money as well... the only reason you are not seeing 10/10 asian girls all over hollywood is because of that.

>>213916397
kek they should do more of that

>>213916236
ewwww... I prefer realistic beauty

>>213916346
holy kek, that's great

if Disney+ did an Isis style public flogging of Eiger and Kennedy where the jailers are dressed up as Disney characters like Pluto, Mickey and Tinkerbell, I might tune in for that

>>213916248
>people are catcalling a 5'1 short fat slavic woman

If thats true why do they replace Maslanys slavic features with nordic ones when she tranforms.

Also its clear that 6'0 tall pakistani jameela tried out for role but didnt get it. She would have been better desu. And she has more caucisoid features too

>>213916248
>catcalled
Women are posting non-stop about how they regret that men are not coming onto them anymore. What fantasy world are the (female) writers of this clownshow living in?

>>213915475
Ziggy would have been fine if they had coached her to keep her mouth shut about anything other than promoting the movie.

>>213915873
Audiences yearn for up-and-coming star Laelaelae from the hit k-pop group XDTGDS

>>213915031 (OP)
They need to promote tolerance.

>>213915861
there is another..

>>213916546
>oh Spain, you can shut up about the moors too!
That side of the overton window eating each other over this piece of shit flop was so entertaining

>>213916178
Wait a second, I'm not the target audience haha.

>>213916588
I am, a father with children, who didn't spend a cent for my kids to see that trash

Disney managing to make the Star Wars franchise hated will be studied at universities in 100 years.

>>213915047
Spbp

>>213916588
Well, you are not real so...

>>213915031 (OP)
Nothing! Keep doing what you are doing, the modern audience will come around! Although you may have to start micro-financing theater visits so they can pay for it or start accepting robux.

>>213916408
No on in Hollywood wants to see Asian qts. White women will always get top billling

>>213915119
yeah, can't get enough moonface

>>213916153
Aladdin as well.

>>213916636
Yas, kween!

>>213915342
I thought Ahsokha was Filoni's OC?

>>213916636
holy cope
Guess I will keep saving my money on this slop.

>>213915031 (OP)
Some cartoon about a white kid, his female tomboy friend (Who secretly has a crush on him), his cool black friend and his dog going on cool adventures.

>>213916546
I completely forgot about this movies existence

>>213915475
She's a chud icon, chud.

>>213916695
pass. won't accept half-measures

>>213915047
Also include things that guys like: guns, trucks, giant robots, archaeology, and a pretty girl to be saved.

>>213915460
Ton of zoomers grew up with the Pirate movies

>>213916673
hell yeah! records broken baby!

>>213916153
they did but most of them flop
>Soul
>Luca
>Strange World
>Lightyear
>The Good Dinosaur
>Meet the Robinsons
>Treasure Planet
Disney is a company for women

>>213915031 (OP)
Sorry, still not watching your subversive jewish garbage. OHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>>213916122
Expecting honesty from Mark Ruffalo is like asking a weasel to be a cat

>>213916248
>Why aren't young men interested in superheroes anymore? Such a mystery...

>>213916248
>murdering she-hulk
yeah right, she'd just hulk out on them

>>213916736
>Strange World
that's only because disney wanted the movie to lose money!!

>>213915119
Karen Gillan sex

>>213916400
Moby Dick, except the whale is a lost childhood

>>213916673
powerful, courageous, joyful

>>213915031 (OP)
Gacha games are next. Staring with prioritizing their own try own gacha games but after that Fate Grand Order, Umamusume, Zenless Zone Zero, Wuthering Waves and the like. Screenshot this.

>>213916636
did she ever elucidate who was paying this staff?

The problem isn't even all the female led things they're making. These would make money if they cast attractive women that weren't flat as a board and had a little mass to them. There's zero sex appeal with anything that's made anymore, so what's even the point in watching? No one goes to these movies for the stories, they want a feast for the eyes, not an eyesore.

>>213915873
No one wants bugs either.

>>213915031 (OP)
backwardbeliefcountriesbros... we won?

>>213915031 (OP)
do shit like Atlantis and Treasure Planet again you gay niggers

>>213916826
In the UK they already imprison men who jerk off to hentai, but do nothing about rapefugee grooming gangs.

>>213916896
Not necessarily.
I am willing to help Disney against countries with backwards beliefs.

>>213916636
She's mocking a tweet made by Tony R. Khan.

>>213915031 (OP)
Make nothing but great movies and shows for 20 years straight, and maybe the male audience will think about opening their wallets again.

>>213915838
Figured this was just a fake headline for outrage farming so I looked it up, welp.

>>213916636
I wonder why I can't find a mention of this tweet anywhere.

Tom Brady retrospective

>>213916400
Hamlet

>>213916574
Also a good choice. One thing everyone knows is teen boys love edge

Children - dinosaurs
Teens - edgy shit
Adults - ruining literally everything in a desperate attempt to recapture their childhood

>>213916979
Because the original is not from her.

>>213916769
>2 retweets 9 likes
Who tf cares?

>>213916977
>writer
>can't spell 'focusing'

>>213916736
Soul and Luca were both good

>>213915031 (OP)
Every zoomers I've come across who just happens to be nice surprisingly have rejected western entertainment entirely and watches animes.

>>213915838
Pretty crazy looking back on it all

>>213916977
You don't need to check if fake when it's a screenrant screenshot.

>>213915031 (OP)
We need 'Boats'.

>>213917158
Master And Commander already exists and it is amazing.

Get genndy to do a Goofy animated series.

>>213917082
luca was ass soul is a 5/10

>>213917158
I want a Battle off Samar film already.

>>213915031 (OP)
I want crossovers like Willow + Pirates of the Caribbean.

>>213916153
Hercules and the Lion King were entertaining as a kid, but boys wanted to play Power Rangers, not Furry Hamlet. The closest thing Disney had to a 'male violent' cartoon was Gargoyles.

>>213916673
I wanna pity the pajeeta for sinking with the boat, but she knew what she was getting into.

>>213916977
OHNONONONONONONONONO

>>213917194
MAKE IT AGAIN

>>213917279
*of

: )

>>213917047
Thanks. So Brianne was being framed again. Sad.

>>213915031 (OP)
they need to bring back an audience to begin with

>>213915992
Why? They have near limitless funds, so it's just throwaway money to them. You lot won't cancel your monthly subscriptions, so you'll keep those bucks rolling in.

>>213917319
>MAKE IT AGAIN
Wish granted, all female remake of Master and Commander it is.

honestly they should just make movies that are actually cool and good, it doesn't matter to me what race the characters are or if there's wahmen or not, the problem is that these movies are all totally shitty and full of terrible cgi that makes it look like some dumbass ps3 game lmao, if they just made shit that was actually good I think people would see it in theaters

>>213916683
She’s more like his waifu. His OC is Hondo. Lucas created her, but he wanted her dead quick. Filoni is the one who dictated her personality and the character she would go on to become.

>>213915031 (OP)
here is my pitch

>>213917382
This. Just make one thing that’s written well, then worry about company growth or franchise shit.

>>213915031 (OP)
Lol lol lol lol lmao haha hehe lol
Call up the writers guild again and negotiate a contact where you pay them all quadruple, surely this time they'll come up with something decent lol lol heh

>>213916346
It really is amazing how bad that movie was. the sequels in general sucked ass but this managed to be the worst movie in a franchise that has attack of the clones.

>>213917296
Vellani jumped on the wrong boat at the worst possible time.

>>213917411
>Just make one thing that’s written well

nightmare level difficulty for megastudios

>>213917158

Das Boot is a really good movie.

>>213915475
Hey, I went to see her in that one movie. By myself. As a man. Late at night.

That movie sucked and made me feel like a loser for watching it.

>>213915493
Sent that freak to the mesosphere

>>213917530
NTA
I can do it.

>>213915031 (OP)
>Disney is pressing creatives
These creatives? I don't think that will work, chief. Get rid of all the union parasites (which means all of them) and then you'll have a chance.
It won't happen though, because this is just studio owners realizing how right McCarthy was and how the entire industry is just fifth column, right under their asses.

>>213915047
>>213916715
So Disney needs to buy Transformers and make it like the first film with Megan Fox?

>>213915061
>disney falls apart thanks to leftism
>hurdurrr captitlismus did dat

>>213917319
>*of
No he was right
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_off_Samar
It was a battle OFF [the coast of] Samar

>>213917586
>be hypercapitalist megacorp
>promote communism
>???
>don't profit
What causes this?

>>213917490
And there were daily threads for years filled with shitlibs arguing the film was good.

>>213915465
I was just thinking this

They're making an adaptation of a PS2 Star Wars game starring Ryan Gosling and they're still gonna fumble it
>>213915047
Whatsherface from Andor has a god-tier booty

>>213917405
>>213917425
Thank you for posting, we've been waiting for these.

If you think this is bad, here's a fun story for you of disney executive incompetence.

In 1995 the Disney CEO and board Chairman Michael Eisner hired Michael Ovitz, the founder and CEO of a very large talent scouting and actor management agency, to be a President at Disney, with the hope that Ovitz would soon replace Eisner as CEO of Disney. The board approved his hire for $24M, which was an extravagant sum at the time.

Shortly after being hired, Ovitz began to clash with other executives, and even Eisner who had recruited him referred to him as a "psychopath with a character problem." It became clear that he wasn't the right fit for the company, and before even being there a year he was fired. However, he had a clause in his contract that if he was fired without cause he was entitled to a $138M severance package. Which he was paid, in full.

This launched a derivative litigation against Disney (a lawsuit where the shareholders sue the company's board and officers on behalf of the company, for violating their fiduciary duty) which went to the Delaware Supreme Court. The court found that even though the board had acted with gross negligence to the shareholders in approving that employment contract and then firing him without cause, Disney's charter said its directors weren't liable for gross negligence, which they were legally allowed to do, so the shareholders had no recourse.

>>213915235
This, I don't think younger generations appreciate how much of a leftie faggot Hitler was.

>>213915031 (OP)
IPs like Tomb Raider demonstrate why western studios will literally never be able pivot from this spiral of destruction.

>>213916869
You don't speak for me you racist sonuvabitch

>>213916035
this person doesn't understand the idiom. in the phrase "milking the cash cow" the cow is the asset that is producing the cash. e.g. in this case the "cow" would be "star wars" and the "milk" would be "cash"

>>213915475
We’re big fans, actually. But they have to be sexy. This character alone would make them billions if she was the love interest of some power fantasy targeting the male psyche. Literally copy what’s worked for anime. But that would require capitulation and modicum of self awareness, which these vile rats are totally incapable of.

>>213915031 (OP)
I think if there were more autobiographical movies by women of color directors about their lived experience there would be more kindness (punk rock) and less chuds (country music) in the world

>>213915861
This dumbshit cocksucker race swapped everyone he could, put girlbosses everywhere and cast tranny as Flash. It's time to kill yourself you cancerous faggot.
Oh, I forgot - he also made election add for Biden.

I have an offer for Disney.

>>213916869
The western female cope and seethe about Asian women will never not be hilarious to watch repeating itself ad infinitum

>>213915931
>The Acolyte girl
This but unironically
She can twerk on my dickscourse any time

Unless Pixar comes out with an X rated flick about a princess with overactive bladder forced to flee to the countryside in secret with a band of entertaining misfits and her long-suffering chambermaid, I'm not interested in Disney. The last truly good thing they made was Mission to Mars.

>>213916248
Does anyone have the version of this where it is overlayed by all the terrible things that happened to Bruce, ending with him putting gun in his mouth and pulling the trigger?

>>213917934
>He doesn't know
Get in line.

>>213915031 (OP)
>new IP
lol goodluck, Disney's writers couldn't even make a half decent fanfic, let alone come up with an original idea
>the calls come as the Star Wars machine struggles to produce any film project and the superhero genre sheds audiences by the minute
This is misdirection, they want us to believe it's solely capeshit fatigue, and not Disney and Warner Brothers continually shitting the bed

>>213917880
You don't even need to have an incredibly hot girl or anything. These people are so focused on being progressive and getting women to watch man movies that they missed the obvious, getting men to watch woman movies.
Like you said, copy anime. Have a story about some guy meeting a nice girl that loves him told from his perspective for men to project into, and you'll get a legion of men Gosling posting about it for months. Men have never been lonelier, it's never been simpler.

>>213916089
I was one of few kids who perferred Cartoon Network, Kids WB, and Nickelodeon. I almost never watched Disney channel. But then again, I always couldn't get into Disney outside of watching their mainline movies here or there.

>>213916346
You have no idea how happy I am Abrams retconned this into her accidentally killing herself when she was running away.

>>213915931
All are psychologically repulsive to any rational, healthy male with a normal testosterone level and triple digit IQ. It may work on subhumans from the subcontinent and subsaharan, but actual humans will always reject women who go out of their way to be cunts at every opportunity. Sydney Sweeny, on the other hand, looks like a mid downie with great tits, but she comes off as very pleasant and feminine, which is why she’s so popular. Take that personality and have some 10/10 genetic freak actress sell it to the masses, instant stock boost and brand saved.

>>213915342
I don't get it

>>213916346
This one in partiicular is funny because even though this one is a satire, the original scene is even more ridiculous, because while Rose gives this speech, the resistance base is blowing up in background. It's like Spaceballs.

>>213918050
Exactly that’s the funniest and most ironic thing of all this. It’s just sooo easy but they’re such pathological narcissists, they’re actually incapable of hitting a home run off a tball with every other variable aligning perfectly for their success. Truly, the enemies of all mankind. And our schadenfreude hasn't even hit its apex.

>>213915031 (OP)
By giving me a blowjob for free.

>>213915031 (OP)
Well to start they'll have to fire and stop hiring Jews and women.

>>213918015
No.
I have a very peculiar offer for Disney.
I am the Devil to Disney's Faust.

All they need to do is ask for my help, pay me what I ask, and I will offer them something what they will not get any other way.
The magic that they seek.

Sane people warned Disney last year but he was probably called racist and sexist incel chuddie.
>Disney Needs ‘Course Correction’ Away From Political Messaging, Says ‘Little Mermaid’ and ‘Aladdin’ Director

>>213915465
>Is it finally time? A Kingdom Hearts kinography???
Sora would be the hero for the first act and then the rest of the movie would be about Kairi's empowerment. They've learned nothing from their mistakes.

>>213915031 (OP)

It can not. Contemporary writers are triggered by classic storytelling. It literally makes them sick so they can´t use it.

>>213918155
Keep going

>>213915031 (OP)
i will never go back i'm white

>>213915031 (OP)
I don't think they are capable of understanding the male audience, never mind win them back. Disney has bought Pixar, Lucasfilms and Marvel and the first thing they did with all of them was to make them all appeal to girls at the expense of their male audience.

>>213917973
She can twerk back home to Europe.

They had Indiana Jones. They should have made the latest movie be Indy passing the torch to a yound badass kid, maybe Son of Shortround if they really didn't want to go with Mutt played be Shaea. Instead they chose Fleabag. All of these are self inflicted wounds. Disney creatives think masculinity itself is toxic, they don't know how to appeal to young boys because they ideologically hate men and boys.

Pirates of Caribbean could also work, with Jack Sparrow passing the torch to a young badass pirate kid- and try to turn it in to Disney One Piece- but of course they would fuck that up too.

>>213918155
Is this too much to ask for?

I must add >>213918173
I want them to ask for my help here, on 4chan.
Kiss the frog.

>>213916977
think he cut his dick off?

>>213915565
Ok that’s fine, then it’s either an ancient treasure he’s sought after for years or one he failed to capture in his younger days

>>213918249
>don't think they are capable of understanding the male audience, never mind win them back

Absolutely not. One of the funniest things I have seen post elections were progressive groups realizing that they need young men votes, and when they were workshopping ideas, they literally couldn't help seething about them in spiteful rage and disgust. It was fascinating. Even the ones who came up with solution just came up with White Dudes for Harris mk2. - be better and come prop us up you fucking chud.

>>213916977
Why do they always pick a fake name that blatantly sounds like a dude came up with it

>>213918375
That's the plot of Quackshot actually.

>>213917548
Sometimes our feelings deceive us. You're definitely not a loser if you went to see her movie.

She's at least a talented actress, unlike many, so she's worth watching.

>>213915031 (OP)
Disney would have to produce a single good movie, which they have never once done in their entire history, for the studio to begin to appeal to men.

>>213916053
too reddit

>>213918529
I enjoy Walt-era Disney's films. And some of their later stuff.
They're not all bad.

>>213918452
We can change some things around so it stands on its own

>>213918392
The Speaking with American Men Project.

>>213918259
These writers are told in university that Indiana Jones, Star Wars, and POTC are bad because they only reflect the white male power fantasy. The well has been so thoroughly poisoned that I don't think Hollywood can recover. They think anime is popular because it's stylized, not for the messages it teaches. They look at Naruto and think "People like ninjas. Make a bisexual female ninja movie to cash in on this!" Nothing about the village outcast who defied all odds to prove his worth.

>>213915861
He already tried making his own Star Wars and it was the perfect showcase of what TFA would look like without nostalgia bait and mystery boxes acting as crutches.

>>213918654
Or just copy it and call it Quackshot. Why not? No one remembers that game and the few that do like it.

We can't let chuddies and incels win, transcomrades.

>>213915031 (OP)
Disney is not interested in the make audience. They shut down Disney XD. Like TV network execs they're targeting females because it's the target market for most marketing/ads. Their belief is that females spend more based on ads they see. This is why even scifi and action shows are being turned into relationship drama soap operas to attract the female audience.

>>213915119
What the HELL are you talking about. This is the trashiness that puts everyone off.

>>213918725
*male audience

>>213918693
I like your moxy, desu I just wanted a Scrooge movie lol- is he in quackshot?

>>213918696
>why do I get the sense given Disney's recent actions this will be at the expense of women, POC, and LGBTQ+ people
That would be called paranoia.

>>213915031 (OP)
There's only one way

Bring back Big Harv!

>>213917674
I’ve heard so many stories of Disney’s incompetence that I’m surprised they’ve lasted this long.

>>213918725
Disney adults are all women after all

Tarzan sequel where Jane is in here underwear the whole time

>>213918725
They stopped writing literature for men because men would rather play a video game than read a book. Television is going in the same direction. Men are watching sports or playing online games. So scripted television shows are catering exclusively to women. With female main characters having problems that only women experience. Even the male leads are extremely feminized like Hughie from The Boys.

>>213917109
>looking back

They're still doing it

>>213915031 (OP)
Bring big tits and cleavage back.
Predominately white casts.
Go back to talent scouting.
Never access twitter.
Focus on quality over massive budget crutchfaggotry.
Do all this, Disney, and you'll have audiences and profits again.

>>213918820
Stop promoting your sexual extortionist, freak

>>213915031 (OP)
Please do not buy disney products. Pirate or nothing.

>>213918882
>Predominately white casts.
You don't even need this. Star Trek and LOST had diverse casts and were extremely popular when their aired. You can have nonwhite characters as long as they have goals and struggles that aren't race related. Sayid was my favorite LOST character as a teenager because he was badass.

>>213918869
You mean television?

>>213918948
They don't make anything worth pirating.

>>213918529
>which they have never once done in their entire history
No need to be this much of a contrarian.

>>213918964
Those casts were still predominantly white

>>213918964
I'm not saying you're wrong here, but it's a personal preference. I need several years of no diversity due to hollywood-induced nigger fatigue.

>>213915381
Because most producers and casting directors now are roasties that hate young and pretty women

>>213916705
It's funny, I'm starting to look back fondly on wish after mufasa and snow white were so fucking fuckawful. At least wish had catchy music.

>>213918964
If you made a show like Lost now people would complain it is woke. People just want to complain.

>>213918696
The thing is even when you give people like this what they want like The Acolyte or The Marvels it's still just overwhelmingly dudes showing up. Because it's not about the actual entertainment for these people. It's about collecting cultural "scalps" from (young) men. That's what really gets them thrilled and excited here.

Disney used to give Miramax development funds to make the kind of dark crazy movies that younger males like. Imagine trying to get Pulp Fiction made today. Not only would it be a pass but creative executive Karen would do everything possible to get the writer blacklisted.

>>213915531
I will never understand Only fans. There is a trillion free porn sites out there why would you pay a monthly subscription for some random bitch?

>>213915031 (OP)
>global adventures and treasure hunts
The adventure genre is dead as long as Hollywood is unwilling to portray non-western cultures as strange as best and uncivilized at worst.

>>213918990
Time to sink the ship

>>213919114
On top of that onlyfans always has leaks.
Truth is most onlyfans whores make far less than minimum wage. 99% of the site donates to maybe 1% of the whores there.

>>213918752
>What the HELL are you talking about. This is the trashiness that puts everyone off.

(Sigh) Awkwafina tits, minge and arse while she reads out some shit by James Joyce, then.

Is that classy enough for you?

>>213919114
It’s the parasocial relationship part that tricks people. Also the girls tend to be hotter than the ones showing up on the typical sites nowadays.

How about a faux-anime Blade series to catch on the "Hype moments and aura" black zoomer crowd?

>>213919445
Disney hates Blade.

There remains one last classic IP, untainted by the clutches of greed...

>>213919445
Didn’t Blade already get an anime a decade or so ago?

>>213915031 (OP)
So, they bought the biggest boy franchise (Star Wars) ran it to the ground trying to market it to girls.
And now they have to start all over again?
Why are these smart billionaires?

>>213915236
Unfortunately, there’s a greater than zero chance that the wokies in charge of Disney have already pulled the plug on him because of his “problematic” views on Jews and minorities. That, or the diversity hires in charge of keeping his freezer on have fucked up somehow causing his body to thaw and decompose.

>>213918869
You have cause and effect swapped. Unless you are a gaslighting activist of course.

>>213917973
That seething rap song she made was hilarious- also this bitch can't dance for shit

>>213919649
It's not about the money, it's about sending a message

>>213916373
Princess and the frog was good though.

>>213915031 (OP)
If you take a step back, it's crazy that a company as big as Disney can run themselves into the ground so quickly and easily. Or maybe they're doing fine, but if management truly doesn't understand what went wrong and why men are alienated from their brand, thats pretty scary

>>213920005
It is a classic story.
If Disney is willing to "kiss me" I will be their "Prince Charming"

>>213919955
It’s absolutely about the money. Or rather, what they think will make them money. The Force Awakens and the continued reboot remake slop trend is proof of this. They want “safe” shit that’s nostalgiabait plagiarism at its core, because general audiences are too stupid to actually ask for anything other than what they know.

>>213920054
>safe
turning your boy centric franchise to a female one is not being safe.

>>213920075
They think it’s safe because of social media like twitter and the push of feminism. They see how loud that crowd is and assume it’s what the majority of people want. And so, they hire people who think along those lines to make it happen. And when the projects fail, they find they can’t so easily fire them because they forgot they’re all on contract for tenure and they’re too proud to actually admit a mistake.

>>213920267
nigger those feminists are the ones in charge of the franchise right now. They've lost BILLIONS pushing this propaganda to create a "modern audience"

It's about power over culture

>>213920075
>meanwhile, in reality...

>>213920075
I keep hearing brainlets using this dumbfuck argument about companies being 'risk averse'. Turning Indiana Jones into a jobless divorcee with dead child, and making him want to kill himself is apparently the 'safe choice' according to these nimrods. Or acquiring Witcher and immediately writing him out of the show.
Or turning Nick Fury into a fucking fraud that spent his career stealing achievements of others, or giving $280 million dollars to a personal assistant of Harvey Weinstein to make Star Wars show for you, that is a safe, risk averse choice.

>>213920334
>meanwhile, in reality
Revenue dropped by 50% and Disney is scared to release another movie, even though they wanted SW movie a year.

>>213920334
I agree, looney troon. Disney/Marvel must make more the Marvels, Snow White, the Acolyte, Solo: A Star Wars Story, Captain America 4, Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four(2025).

>>213920075
It's safe because they make money even if it fails due to ESG tax credits from blackrock vanguard and state street

>>213920296
these secret societies and ceo's, etc are hooked into astrology
they know that the power of fantasy and mass trends through pisces is ending and the "modern audience" is an attempt to cultivate aquarian audiences
the problem for them is wokeness is early teething pain that will eventually settle into a more egalitarian zeitgeist (rather than their attempts to flip the table upside down) and that those energies will play out more through niche communities and tech advancement, not a mass media complex

>>213920379
And that all happened when they brought in a director who didn't want to play it safe. Giving Rian Johnson creative control to tell the store he wanted was actually what did them in, if they continued to play it safe they would have kept being able to milk the franchise further
>>213920449
None of those movies are "safe" except maybe Solo and Fantastic 4 which were both attached to dying oversaturated franchises

>>213920267
Hollywood thought that Twitter(now the wokes emigrated to Bluesky), Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic were giving them real feedback instead of being a far-left woke echo chamber.
Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four got worthless certified fresh rating from RT which means jackshit and both movies are box office flops.

>>213920505
>if they continued to play it safe they would have kept being able to milk the franchise further
I don't know, Johnson blew it up, but Abrams was the one who set up most of the rot. People would sour on it just like they did on his Star Trek.

>>213915031 (OP)
>Star Wars: "Fuck you, men. The force is female!"
>Marvel: "Fuck you, men. Worship the girlboss!"
>Why don't men like us anymore?!

They could just do what the government did and hire a fat Latina woman.

Corporate America is so feminized. Women don't like big risks. This is why modern Hollywood is so "conservative" and depends on raping old IPs.

>>213918259
Such a waste to kill Mutt in Vietnam. They should do a Sons of Indy series where he's rescued by Short Round and they have archeological adventures tomb raiding and treasure hunting on their way home.

>>213920992
Women cannot create, they can only destroy.

>>213915873
Who is she?

there was a 75th anniv. special about marvel on abc where one of the guests mentioned that disney specifically went for marvel and star wars to boost their standing among boys. seems they forgot about that.

>>213917570
yes
and make them part of the marvel universe. like they used to

>>213921050
Shia was canceled and they didn't want him back.

>>213918259
harrison ford refused to 'pass the torch' he literally said the character dies with him

>>213921051
Kek.

>>213921069
anna of meovv

>>213918869
>They stopped writing literature for men
There's a whole genre of harem isekai stories on Kindle. It's just as bad as smutty romance for women.

>>213921073
>where one of the guests mentioned that disney specifically went for marvel and star wars to boost their standing among boys
Iger explicitly stated this in his book, it's not even up to debate.

>>213921136
Then why did he make a movie passing the torch to Fleabag?

>>213921051
No, women can create life, if you give them an important key ingredient.

>>213918866
KINO

>>213919114
She hires some Indian to roleplay all your interactions. Probably using AI now too.

>>213917649
Jedi Knight????

>>213915031 (OP)
>buy star wars and marvel specifically to appeal to boys
>turn it into complete slop for wine aunts groypers browns and troonies
>"wtf why aren't boys watching our stuff anymore???"

>>213921107
Recast the role.

>>213921331
man sauce?

>>213921739
Idk man. I'm a toxic white male. I couldn't possibly know what women need to be able to create.

>>213921327
>Then why did he make a movie passing the torch to Fleabag?

When the movie was first pitched it was actually Indiana Jones crossing over with Lara Croft.

Fleabag started off as a sort of Lara in all but name placeholder character they would use if they couldn't get the rights to use Lara (at the time fleabag wasn't cast yet, either).

Square, who owned the Tomb Raider rights at the time, wanted a lot more cash than Disney would spare for Lara and other perks like final say on any aspect of the film involving Lara and a shit ton of NFTs (Square were obsessed with these at the time and thought they'd be the next big thing and make them tens of billions of Yen). Disney obviously said no, but then Square made it clear they'd be watching this like a hawk for any possible use of Lara Croft or attempt at "passing off".

As a result the character had to change just enough that Square couldn't sue them and in the process they lost one of the main reasons and potential draws for the film in the first place. They had to uggo-up the character a bit and replace Lara's athletic cool with feminist sass.

The greed of both Disney and Square robbed us of a potentially kino final Indy film with Lara Croft as Indiana Jones' legman.

>>213915047
>hot, white women.
As the love interest. And a cool guy as the hero who gets to save the hot white woman without being constantly undermined or being made into the butt of the joke, OR if that happens, it must happen early on when the hero is still at the beginning of his hero's journey. He must grow into the respected hero young boys can aspire to be.