Thread 213931766

Seems kinda counter-intuitive though? Like scratching your own car.

>>213931766 (OP)

Yeah, it really wasn't that common for exactly that reason. Ironically a slave master has an interest in keeping their slave alive and healthy in a way that a feudal lord or even a corporate employer doesn't since the slave is their property.

>>213931766 (OP)
Is this a man or a woman?

There's only one picture of a scarred slave for a reason. They were treated so well that whipping one was seen as an oddity.

>>213931803
they're all the same from behind

>>213931802
Flogging wont keep them from working, it just makes it hurt like hell. Its why the navy used flogging as the primary means of corporal punishment all the way up to the steam engine.

>>213931766 (OP)
It's time for us to admit we had it better as the White Gods slave.

>>213931766 (OP)
It's like a work truck, it's gonna have damage.

scratching my car doesn't make my other cars drive faster

>>213931802
Can you link me to your source on how it wasn't all that common, I'd like to understand the work involved in reaching that conclusion

>>213931766 (OP)
>counter-intuitive
People are often cruel towards other people for no practical reason, just for the sake of it.

>>213931918
source: he made it up

>>213931913
Have you tried?

According to ChatGPT, most slaveholders actually weren’t Jewish

>The majority of slaveholders in the United States were white Christians of European descent (mostly Protestant, some Catholic).
>Jews made up a very small fraction of the U.S. population in the 18th and 19th centuries (less than 0.5%).
>Because of their tiny numbers, Jewish slaveholders existed but were very rare — and certainly not "most" or even a large share.
>A few Jewish individuals in the American South did own enslaved people, often in small numbers, but the overwhelming majority of Jewish Americans at the time were not wealthy plantation owners.

>The claim that Jews dominated the slave trade or slaveholding comes mainly from misleading or distorted works, most notoriously The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews (1991) published by the Nation of Islam. Historians across the board — including specialists in African American history, Jewish history, and slavery — have thoroughly debunked it. In reality: slavery in the U.S. was overwhelmingly a Christian-led, white American institution, backed by political, economic, and religious systems of the majority society.

>>213931937
yeah. doesn't matter how much I beat my toyota, my GMC still won't start.

>>213931913
People never want to park near a fucked up car though.

>>213931947
No shit

>>213931947
>slaveholders
slave traders being primarily jewish is the talking point.

>>213931766 (OP)
yeah, everyone takes perfect care of all of their things. They take even better care of themselves. Seems counter intuitive not to.

>>213931966
That’s not true either
>No, slave traders were not primarily Jewish.

>The transatlantic slave trade (1500s–1800s) was organized and dominated mainly by European colonial powers—such as Portugal, Spain, Britain, France, and the Netherlands. The traders, ship owners, and financiers involved were overwhelmingly Christian Europeans, and later Americans, working within state-sponsored systems of empire and commerce.

>While some individuals of Jewish background did participate in the trade—as did individuals from many other groups—they were a very small minority and played no dominant role. Historians have shown that claims that Jews were the main drivers of the slave trade are not supported by evidence; they stem from antisemitic conspiracy theories that distort history.

>To put it in context:
>In Portugal and Spain (early slave trade leaders), Jews had been expelled or forced to convert in the late 1400s, so they were largely excluded.
>In Britain, France, and the Netherlands, the large shipping companies and colonial ventures that ran the trade were run by non-Jewish elites.
>The vast majority of profits and power structures from the slave trade flowed through royal charters, aristocrats, merchants, and institutions in Christian Europe.

>So while individual Jewish merchants existed among many other traders, the claim that Jews were “primarily” or disproportionately responsible is false. The slave trade was a system created, funded, and run by European states and commercial elites.

>>213931890
The navy had to use flogging because for most of history, sailors were literally kidnapped and forced to work on warships. Yet, they outnumber the officers on a ship and could mutiny at any time.

>>213932008
no reason to believe the words of AI all a lod of made up bull

>>213931947
>>213932008
>According to ChatGPT

>>213931766 (OP)
>Seems kinda counter-intuitive though?
You mean like gambling your entire trade potential profit on the ability of your transportation labor being capable of kidnapping hundreds of random people at a random location you've never been to?
You would think a trade port would be a consistent location to exchange goods to keep your business afloat to make a profit.


Alas, "ROOTS" the 70s television series was full of lies and inaccuracies that low IQ retards (blacks) used as the basis of what they know of history

>>213931802
Yeah. Man, slavery is actually really awesome. I don't know why people were so miserable about it.

>>213931947
>According to ChatGPT
Whoa seriously??? Wowzers!!!! Zoinks!!!! Thats anazing!!!!

>>213931766 (OP)
Yeah, slaves were fucking expensive.
I don't doubt that they were disciplined and abused, but the pornographic levels of barbarism from this movies are absolutely a leftist delusion.

>>213931947
ChatGPT literally makes shit up, retard.

>>213932126
it happened in one case with someone who was clearly an outlier

>>213931766 (OP)
More similar to other lesser beasts of burden instead of a transportation tool. Also, there are other ways to get the point across; Derby's Dose for example.

>>213932126
>pornographic levels of barbarism from this movies are absolutely a leftist delusion

So why did slaveowners have the right to treat their slaves that way?

"Haha I won't go crazy and torture you ... unless"

The implication is the threat.

>>213931766 (OP)
Read time on the cross if you want to know about the actual economics of slavery

If I had a cute female slave with an ass like that she'd be getting whipped daily.

>>213932252
would she like it or is this a purely one sided thing

>>213931802
Yeah feudal lords didn't rely on tithes and companies don't need workers to keep things moving, kek

>>213932186
Leftists have this delusion that slaves were normal, modern black guys who were cruelly ripped out of their Las Angeles apartments.
Uh, they were fucking loincloth tribals from subsaharan africa who were already enslaved by other blacks before they were even shipped off.
They were with the fucking program, dude. There's not a whole lot of extra work that needs to go into making them compliant. They're confused as fuck and on a different continent with nowhere to go. That's a pretty compliant mental state.
I'm not saying that this shit wasn't bad, I'm just saying that the version we get is a weird, fantasy whitewash that has more to do with gratifying leftist delusions than it has to do with reality.
Hell, the Africans themselves BELIEVED in slavery. All their cultures did it, and they were traded to Europeans by cultures that practiced it. They weren't innocent, modern men with ethics and morals.

>>213932126
>leftist delusion
>>213932324
>Leftists have this delusion

Anon you can just say it's Jewish propaganda, you're with friends here.

>>213931947
Christians specifically, hmm. As in a larger portion of Christians than non Christians were pro slavery, hmm?
Now I'm just not so sure about that one.

>>213932324
the important thing is all of that is real to you

I treat my car like shit and it still drives me to work.

>>213931947
>>213932008
How did we reach a point where morons who 100% believe a fucking AI are allowed to live?

>>213932324
>Leftists have this delusion that slaves were normal, modern black guys who were cruelly ripped out of their Las Angeles apartments.
Uh, they were fucking loincloth tribals from subsaharan africa who were already enslaved by other blacks before they were even shipped off.
And? Do you even know why they started buying black slaves in the first place and stopped enslaving natives? Their "civilization" is an after the fact justification by dumb retards who are still running off jewish talking points (Spoiler alert, Jews think the exact same way about ALL goyim).

They were taken as slaves because it was considered more moral than enslaving native americans. So what the fuck does it have to do with civilization ?

>>213932353
The jews are the ones who owned the slave ships you dumb motherfucker. And yes jews are evil and cruel, so yes slavemasters were evil and cruel because they decided to learn from jewish masters.So explain, why did slavemasters need the right to abuse and rape their slaves if they weren't going to?

The threat is the point you dumb fucks. "IT barely happened" how many times do you need to watch someone tortured before you decide to pick the plant?

If I torture and kill your friend in front of you for not listening to me, I've still done a crime to you because I'm torturing and killing them for fun, I'm threatening everyone with the same punishment.

>>213932423
what's the source for them mostly being Jewish?

>>213932473
I made it up

>>213932433
>it was considered more moral than enslaving native americans

uh. they tried that. the natives would just leave.

>>213932531
No, the Spanish in the new world threatened to secede and declare independence and Charles V needed money.

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublimis_Deus

post cute black chicks or else

>>213932473
Shalom!

>>213932685
I find it hilarious how eager /pol/ is to repeat shit that was literally just made up by muslim negroes.

>>213931766 (OP)
White men get extreme erections doing this. Abolitionism was started by white women because they got jealous of Black men getting their husbands' attention.

>>213931877
I guess Tariq Nasneed was right.

>>213932730
>ANOTHER BUCK THAT NEEDS TO BE BROKEN?

>WELL WELL WELL I DO DECLARE....

>>213932723
what's the source for those sources being made up?

>>213931766 (OP)
If you fucked your slave and she had a kid with you, legally would that child also be your slave? Seems like a neat trick to get more slaves for free

>>213933095
Yeah but babies are kinda shit at picking cotton.

>>213932473
>what's the source for them mostly being Jewish?
go look up the history of Boston. It started as whaling industry, then became a major shipping enterprise for the Trans Atlantic Slave trade. All the names of those business owners are on record. You can look this up. Their last names aren't McGllicutty or Stewart.

Hello fellow slave-traders

Uh oh

>>213933713
>>213934027
>>213934042
Now post actual statistics, not this anecdotal crap.

>>213934085
No.

Why do /pol/tards like to lie and pretend whites were good boys who dindu nuffin while at the same time saying we should genocide blacks and Mexicans?

>enter thread in the hopes of pics of black qts
>it's all about the jews
Why

>>213932008
the reason why European folklore depicts witches like pic is because during the medieval period, J-ish women would lure children, kidnapping them, and then selling them as slaves to the Ottoman Empire. That's why there are so many stories telling kids to avoid people with hook noses

>>213931803
Ah do declare, they're all pink and warm on the inside.

>>213934085
>noooooooooo not THIS evidence
lol
LMAO

>>213932448
Altman raped his sister since she was 3 till she was 12.

>>213934085
>not this anecdotal crap.
r u okay?

>>213931890
>Flogging wont keep them from working,

Infected cuts will keep you from working and they might kill you particularly in an age before antibiotics.

>>213932315

>Yeah feudal lords didn't rely on tithes

The Lord owns the land. The tenant is expendable. Look at what happened during the Irish famine which occurred concurrent to American slavery. Millions of Irishman starve to death and the whole time their feudal lords were shipping food out of Ireland because they got the first share of the crops.

>companies don't need workers to keep things moving

You can be fired and replaced. So long as the country's labor pool provides adequate labor supply you are expendable.

>>213931947
no shit, why would us been jewish majority anyways?

>>213934085
Do you have any hard evidence that Jews weren't disproportionately involved in the slavery industry? Other than chatGPT?

I'm actually genuinely curious about the truth myself. I could see it being true either way.

blacks would be in a better place socioeconomically today if slavery was still a valid career path

>uhhhh Jews were actually Confederates
wtf i love jews now????

>>213934206
>no shit, why would us been jewish majority anyways?
yeah, its ridiculous
Jews make up less than 3% of US population today
its ludicrous to suggest jews run hollywood, print media, the news and the recording industry

>>213931766 (OP)
people will often punch their stuff when it doesn't work the way it wants, no shit they would resort to similiar shit when said "stuff" does shit like complain about being a slave

>>213934220
jews were probably disproportionately involved in the import/export aspect of the slave trade, they owned, or at least had stakes, in the shipping and transportation industry simply because they were one of the few groups who could provide the capital to ship hundreds of people halfway around the world. travel was still expensive and dangerous in the 18th century, and they had the means to make some money from it.

but in the end they simply sold them to WASP landowners in the americas, so ultimately they were only a small cog in the machine of slavery and pinning the entire thing on jews is intellectually dishonest and lazy.
you might just as well blame the rivaling african tribes who captured their neighbors and sold them to europeans to be enslaved in the first place, there's plenty of blame to go around.

>>213934298
here's the thing you big nosed kike
it was everyone else's fault except the noble white man who was forced at gunpoint by the jews and the african tribes to spend thousands of dollars per nigger, ok?
free palestine

>>213934276
>punch their stuff when it doesn't work the way it wants
hardly
You don't abuse a $50k piece of equipment you desperately need as a labor resource.
Plantation life wasn't nearly as difficult as niggers want you to think it was like Auschwitz. They were housed, clothed, fed, and the 'work' was seasonal

>>213934323
And Auschwitz wasn't even that bad in the first place!

>>213934027
>>213934042
>Im a /pol/tard and i hate niggers but uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh actually slavery was bad and not my fault and i heckin love lil niggerinoes!!

unironically what the fuck is the point in posting this

>>213934298
>pinning the entire thing on jews is intellectually dishonest and lazy.
109 countries
for no reason at all

>>213934298
Don't worry, they do the blame the africans thing too. White men are never at fault, you see. You could say they didn't do anything.

>>213934346
The reasons are quite well documented in most of those cases. It pretty much always has to do with how much money they were owed by the king and various nobles.

>>213934346
reminder that borrowing money from the jews and then kicking them out was a free money glitch for feudal european landowners

>>213934346
Speaking of "intellectually dishonest and lazy", whenever specifics are asked of a joofer (which Jews? What evidence?") he reverts to such a talking point.

>>213932034
>muh press ganging
That was not as widespread as you make it out to be
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impressment

>>213934455
explain then how american slavery is entirely the jews fault.
pro challenge: without screeching DA JOOS or "they just are"

>>213934409
We should keep doing that

>>213934346
>>213934398
>>213934409
>>213934455
>kicked out of 109 countries
>get your own
>it becomes the most hated country in the world because of all the child murder, theft, trafficking, extortion, war instigation, degeneracy, etc going on

>>213934561
>becomes the most hated country in the world
lmao, clueless nigger. even muslim shitholes like Iran and Egypt have still worse opinions about the US.
as soon as you leave the middle east, israel becomes a non issue in most peoples lives. you really think countries like angola or singapore hate israel the most? wake the fuck up

>>213934298
For americans it's the original sin of their entire society so it makes sense chuds and conservacucks would try to slither their way out of it

Personally I'd be proud if my family were influent in the slave trade (though obviously I couldn't say it out loud in polite society)

>>213931932
based

>>213931802
That depend of availability : if slaves are numberous, cheap and easily replaceable, they are always treated harsher. When slaves get rarer, their treatment improve.
After the end of Atlantic trade, the supply dropped, the prices increased and at the end of the slavery, they were treated as valuable ressources

>>213931947
Thanks (((Sam Altman)))

>>213932324
>Uh, they were fucking loincloth tribals from subsaharan africa who were already enslaved by other blacks before they were even shipped off.
I'm reminded now of west Africans online shitting on American blacks for being the descendants of losers that their ancestors beat the shit out of and sold off.

>>213934612
>doesn't protest any of the reasons stated (same reasons for being kicked out), only being hated

>>213931766 (OP)
Dam, having a loyal house negro and freely available nigress asses to cum in must have been awesome

>>213934777
why are white women like this

>>213934769
jews made a deliberate effort to preserve their ethnic, cultural and religious identity for hundreds of years when they had no homeland. one of the few people to actually succeed with this, because nobody remembers the sorbs, avars or kashubians, they disappeared into their larger host cultures. the jews were always the odd ones everywhere they lived. literally the perfect scapegoat.

>>213932723
Did you redeem the foreskins today Chaim?

>>213934085
Death to Israel

>>213931802
Most of the evil shit happened in the Caribbean, Haiti especially. The Southern slavery mythos gets a lot from those stories. I’ve always wanted an HBO series about the Haitian revolution for that reason
>3 factions
>black slave holders wanting French Revolution 2
>white foreigners wanting Napoleonic rule
>angry negros wanting to chimp out at both
>hyper violence
>action packed
>voodoo shit

>>213931802
Indentured servants in supposedly "slave free" British colonies were worked to near or actual death precisely because they weren't "owned" by anyone (well and that the slave drivers were Anglos (i.e. crypto jews) and indentured servants were white and chattel were black)

>>213934612
Why are you still shilling Jew? Everyone has a problem with Jews, in the Middle East you steal their land, In America you occupy the government, In Asia you try to ban anime and spread communism,

>>213934879
That’s the problem, old ancient outdated cultures should be absorbed into newer superior cultures
Jews are still keeping their Bronze Age pagan cult on life support, wondering why they are now depreciated in the modern world
It’s like someone using a flip phone in modern times wondering why he can’t connect to the internet

>>213934879
>ethnic, cultural and religious identity
>child murder, theft, trafficking, extortion, war instigation, degeneracy, etc

>>213931918
source: the real world
niggers can't behave so they get flogged, simple as

>>213934298
>still no source whatsoever
lmaoo you're trying so hard to preserve the established narrative

America is an occupied country. Once you understand this things start to make a lot more sense

>>213935349
>SOURCE???
>no the primary sources from the time don't count
>wow no source looks like I win this formal debate

>>213931766 (OP)
But do you fuck your own car?