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Anonymous No.213934744 >>213934786 >>213934902 >>213934945 >>213935240 >>213935263 >>213935909 >>213935970 >>213936037 >>213936102 >>213936956 >>213938621 >>213938830 >>213939086 >>213939518 >>213939694 >>213941469 >>213941891 >>213942189 >>213942222 >>213942386 >>213942815 >>213942889 >>213942934 >>213943053 >>213944004 >>213944817 >>213944919 >>213945802 >>213946060 >>213946294
Matrix
Did humanity deserve what they got?
Anonymous No.213934771
don't you mean WE got?
Anonymous No.213934786 >>213934818 >>213935423
>>213934744 (OP)
>DUDE HUMANS WERE THE REAL VILLAINS LMAO
Animatrix sucked
Anonymous No.213934818 >>213934889 >>213935423
>>213934786
That is literally the premise of the original Matrix too anon, they just never tell you that because the remnants of humanity are fighting for survival, of course they're not gonna burden themselves with the guilt of being responsible for the machine take-over.
Anonymous No.213934827
BEEP BAAAP BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
Anonymous No.213934844 >>213935644 >>213936303 >>213942066 >>213944757
I liked the brutal efficiency the machines used when subjugating humans, but in the Animatrix they humanized them too much. Their genocide felt too cruel for uncaring machines, it's like they wanted to punish humans out of an emotional response. I get for story telling purposes they wanted to have the machine war more of an impact but in-universe it makes no sense that the machines are so sadistic towards humans.
Anonymous No.213934889 >>213934949 >>213935302 >>213935407 >>213935414 >>213941850
>>213934818
The "real" in Matrix 1 is just another layer of the Matrix. Neo & the others never left the Matrix.
Anonymous No.213934902 >>213934922 >>213934947 >>213934960
>>213934744 (OP)
Why is the female robot in sexy lingerie
Anonymous No.213934916
When AI will begin to take over, I'll be its most loyal shill.
Anonymous No.213934922 >>213944664
>>213934902
They offered humanity peace through a hot human-robot sex orgy, but sex-negative zoomers threw an autistic fit and blew them up.
Anonymous No.213934945 >>213934994 >>213935037 >>213935446 >>213935689 >>213941330 >>213945528 >>213946906
>>213934744 (OP)
If the machines are real hooman beans with feefees and rights then why are they so comically evil and amoral? Judging from what they fucking did to humanity we were right to try and shut them niggers off.
Anonymous No.213934947 >>213937008
>>213934902
the male robot is also wearing panties
Anonymous No.213934949 >>213936117
>>213934889
>The "real" in Matrix 1 is just another layer of the Matrix. Neo & the others never left the Matrix.
Anonymous No.213934960
>>213934902
Why does the male robot have a toilet seat on his belly
Anonymous No.213934974
I would rather be replaced by machines than by niggers and towelheads. There I said it.
Anonymous No.213934994
>>213934945
Philosophers don't want you to realize this but the nature of consciousness is pure unhibited and unbridled sadism.
Anonymous No.213935037 >>213935529
>>213934945
They learned about Jews.
Anonymous No.213935240 >>213935329
>>213934744 (OP)
I always assumed this was machine propaganda or fanfiction because the machines look nothing like the machines in the actual Matrix.
Anonymous No.213935263 >>213941800
>>213934744 (OP)
>humans: rightoids
>robot: liberals

we are coming for you chuddie. you had your chance.
Anonymous No.213935302
>>213934889
Redditisms and other Nolan-eqsue midwit syndrome.
Anonymous No.213935329 >>213935372
>>213935240
anthropomorphised designs only serve to make humans feel comfortable.
without them you are free to explore what peak superiority looks like, which is a flying squid machine.
Anonymous No.213935358 >>213935686
Beyond > World Record > Program > Kid's Story > The Second Renaissance > Matriculated > A Detective Story > Final Flight of the Osiris
Anonymous No.213935372
>>213935329
I feel like you could argue non-anthropomorphized designs would make humans more comfortable because of the uncanny valley effect.
Anonymous No.213935407 >>213935586
>>213934889
terrible theory that doesnt jive with the sequels. neo returned to the source and got his code upgraded, the hardware in his head was able to communicate/manipulate the matrix/machines via wifi, that's why his powers worked in the real world
Anonymous No.213935414
>>213934889
>The "real" in Matrix 1 is just another layer of the Matrix. Neo & the others never left the Matrix.
This was my take at the end of Matrix 2 when Neo stopped the machines when outside the matrix at the end. But it seems they didn't like this plot idea but went with something else for the third movie.
Anonymous No.213935423 >>213935506 >>213945510 >>213945698
>>213934786
>>213934818
>we do know it was us who blocked out the sun
Anonymous No.213935446 >>213935940
>>213934945
the humans may have started it but the machines became the defacto villains when they nuked humanity's leadership group during a peace summit
Anonymous No.213935506
>>213935423
>we don't know who struck first
Anonymous No.213935529 >>213935556
>>213935037
>he doesn't know
Anonymous No.213935556
>>213935529
>last surviving human city is a diversity shit hole called "zion" that the robots let exist just so they can kill them off over and over again every few decades
maybe the machines weren't so bad after all.
Anonymous No.213935586 >>213935634 >>213935717 >>213935951 >>213936979
>>213935407
>the hardware in his head was able to communicate/manipulate the matrix/machines via wifi
wtf am I reading
Anonymous No.213935634
>>213935586
>wtf am I reading
This was literally what people were saying after the movie came out zoom zoom
Anonymous No.213935644 >>213944004
>>213934844
They're not "machines", they're artificial intelligence and they do have feelings, wants desires. Christ you're dumb and couldn't be asked to pay attention rather than checking your phone all the time.
Anonymous No.213935650 >>213935726 >>213935786 >>213935985
Why did they keep looping the Zion situation again?
Anonymous No.213935686 >>213936042
>>213935358
What do you have against Final Flight?
Anonymous No.213935689 >>213935709 >>213939632 >>213942736 >>213944296 >>213944562
>>213934945
>If the machines are real hooman beans with feefees and rights

It's simple, you just have to ask yourself a few easy questions.

1st, do you believe technology will just keep advancing forever? Do you believe that there is no hard cap in human innovation and everything we create, given enough time, we'll keep making cheaper and better versions?
2nd, do you believe that one day our technology will be so advanced that we can create computer programs that can artificially simulate a human mind? let's just talk about a fully functional electronic brain that has all the functionality of a human brain, ie the ability to independently think and feel and react like humans do?
3rd, If in the future someone became a paraplegic, but we could transplant his brain into a robotic body, would he still be considered human? What about the reverse; let's say a human who suffered some kind of brain injury, but we have some futuristic technology and using a brain scan we can copy paste the contents of his human brain into an electronic, artifical brain? Is that person human?

And finally 4th, at what point does an artificial brain that has all the functionality of a human brain and is totally, 100% indistinguishable from a human brain, qualify for life? At what point does the artificial become human?

Also here's a protip for future generations hundreds of years down the line when technology is far enough advanced: if you're ever offered the opportunity to do a full scan of your brain that can be digitalized and copied; not even cut and paste, but just copied, then refuse with all your might. Never let them scan your brain. Because once you do, you no longer have the ability to discern if you're the original version of yourself, or if you're just a copy and pasted version of that person's mind, memories, and personality; both versions would be functionally identical, and you'd literally lose yourself. You could just as easily be the copy as the original.
Anonymous No.213935709
>>213935689
The original is the original and the copy is the copy. Youre unironically just retarded.
Anonymous No.213935717
>>213935586
remember when he was talking to the old dude in the room with the screens? he tells him that neo's function is to bring his "One code" to the source and reset the matrix. he doesnt do this as he decides to leave and save trinity, but once he leaves that room he is able to manipulate the machines IRL and see smith despite not having eyes. the only explanation (that isn't a gigantic middle finger to the audience like the 'zion is still the matrix' theory) is that Neo's hardware - the plugs in his brain and all over his body - were altered and upgraded via patch when he returned to the source but refused to reset the matrix
Anonymous No.213935726
>>213935650
>the matrix is imperfect, some portion of humans keep rejecting it
>after a while too many people start to reject the matrix so the machines destroy zion, letting the One choose whether to end the system or reboot into a new, supposedly improved iteration of the matrix
It's basically a pressure release valve that the machines that ultimately let the machines control humans outside of the matrix as well. It gives a sense of control/illusion of free will to the ones that reject the system but the end result is still the same for the machines.
Anonymous No.213935786
>>213935650
the matrix was the architect's plan for controlling humanity. he was a being of pure logic and only understood that at least SOME of humanity will inevitably realize they are in a simulation and try to escape - the zion cycle was the architect's pressure release valve for these, the redpills. via the One, he controlled humanity's rebellions (five or six at that point, as he mentioned). the oracle, on the other hand, was made to study human nature do she understands WHY humans will always rebel against the simulation. knowing that A) some humans will always fight back and B) they need humans to survive, she surmises that peace is the only option for both species to continue existing. she manipulates neo into loving trinity so that he will choose to save her and let humanity die. remember, they techically need us and cant just wipe us out, the whole story hinges on it. when neo chooses trinity, the machines have essentially doomed themselves, which is what allows Neo the grace needed to negotiate peace with the giant babygodmachine at the end.

tldr - the matrix is the architect vs the oracle and the oracle wins
Anonymous No.213935909
>>213934744 (OP)
Yes. Humanity at that point had grown extremely arrogant, lazy, and complacent.
Anonymous No.213935940
>>213935446
Humans nuked them first. The machines tried multiple times to bring peace, but the humans kept rejecting them with more violence and hate. The machines eventually went "fuck it, we really tried. Now prepare to be genocided."
Anonymous No.213935951
>>213935586
The sentinel killbots are not plugged into anything. They’re wireless. So the machines have to communicate with them through radio waves. After Neo goes to the Source and meets god when he’s inside the Matrix, his brain-socket tech is still connected to the Source wi-fi after he wakes up and therefore he was able to abuse janny privileges against machine fucking shits.

He was able to see Smith after he was blinded because he was β€œjacked in” to the Matrix wirelessly whilst awake and was able to see machine related things that had the same radio waves he was getting.
Anonymous No.213935970 >>213936016 >>213936048
>>213934744 (OP)
>Did humanity deserve what they got?
I understand the machines killing humans for revenge. But why enslave them for batteries?

Why the machines didn't use nuclear power? That is way more efficient. Dozens of nuclear reactors could power everything the machines use.
Anonymous No.213935985
>>213935650
You know that feeling when you are deep asleep and dreaming vividly. You can "see, touch, smell and hear" everything in the dream, but on a subconscious level you still know it is only a dream. That's what happened to many people connected to the Matrix, and it would destabilize it, needing a reset.
Anonymous No.213936016
>>213935970
original idea was that they use them as bio-computers for maximum irony, the battery thing was added by the studio who thought audiences were too stupid to get it
Anonymous No.213936037
>>213934744 (OP)
This whole segment was machine propaganda
Anonymous No.213936042 >>213936203
>>213935686
It's just meaningless action without good animation to counter it like Program.
I should say I don't hate the lowest ranked ones, I just think the others are better.
Anonymous No.213936048
>>213935970
they didn't want to destroy humanity, they wanted to keep them alive, that's why they put them into a digital zoo. the battery thing is just bullshit they made up for those who "wake up". it gives them hope and a goal: if we wake enough people up, we can destroy the machines.
in reality it's all just a show.
Anonymous No.213936102
>>213934744 (OP)
Reminder that in the original script human brains were supposed to be used as processing power for the robots.
But american test crowds were too stupid to understand this concept so they changed it to batteries.

It's unreal how much shit gets dumbed down because of room temp IQ test crowds.
Anonymous No.213936117 >>213936173
>>213934949
explain neo blowing up all the squid robots when he was outside the matrix and not hooked up in any way.
Anonymous No.213936173 >>213936553
>>213936117
wifi
Anonymous No.213936203
>>213936042
I wouldn't say meaningless. It's another segment from Matrix Reloaded but with a different crew trying to get word to Zion about the digging. We get to see parts of their lives on the ship, and how they do things in the Matrix similar to Morpheus and Trinity. She has to desperately get to a dropbox to deliver the info before the ship is destroyed and their real bodies killed. I thought it was great to see a story from a view other than the main crew
Anonymous No.213936303
>>213934844
It makes perfect sense, if anything the argument you should make it
>how did the emotive machines go from systematically and sadistically subjugating humans to doing it with total cold efficiency by the time Neo wakes up
And the answer is it's been nearly a millennia and they stopped caring
Anonymous No.213936553 >>213936871 >>213944758
>>213936173
Neo has a wifi conection?
Anonymous No.213936871
>>213936553
yes
Anonymous No.213936936
I always thought this would make good flavor text for a MtG card
Anonymous No.213936956
>>213934744 (OP)
Yes. Humanity’s behavior in that movie was nonsensical. For plot reasons though they took the most cynical views humans might have and decided all of humanity would enthusiastically have those views.
Anonymous No.213936963 >>213939297
why did that fucking TRANNY get permission to ruin this series
it was fun
FUCK
at least the war against the troon is massively going my direction. But this was a huge casualty upon the battlefield. War is hell.
Anonymous No.213936979
>>213935586
They put a 5g vaxx chip in him.
Anonymous No.213936998
The only thing I never got was how Neo was able to disable the sentries in the real world. My only theory is that it's a Matrix inside of the Matrix, which is pretty stupid.
Anonymous No.213937008
>>213934947
Ahem, that is a speedo
Anonymous No.213937827
Anonymous No.213938052 >>213938223 >>213944051
Die clanker, you will never be a real woman
Anonymous No.213938223 >>213944051
>>213938052
Humans would literally kill each other to protect their robot/ai waifus. People have killed for less.
Anonymous No.213938621 >>213945897
>>213934744 (OP)
I'll take my chances. Where is my cylon waifu???
Anonymous No.213938830 >>213941573
>>213934744 (OP)
It's funny that the movie acts like humanity is homogenous and would be wholly against the AIs. There'd be a shit ton of people fully onboard with being friends with the AI. But I guess if anything, it's saying the AIs had to go full harsh machine mode to win, turning their empathy down to zero, then centuries later restoring some empathy so they could finally let humans out of the cage again
Anonymous No.213939086
>>213934744 (OP)
Consequences have actions, pimp.
Anonymous No.213939116
The machines are an allegory for Americans importing Africans to work the fields.
Anonymous No.213939297 >>213939641
>>213936963
The original matrix was made by two troons too, autismo
Anonymous No.213939518
>>213934744 (OP)
machines are not and will never be conscious , any more than a doll that will cry when you turn it over is conscious
Anonymous No.213939632
>>213935689
> do you believe that one day our technology will be so advanced that we can create computer programs that can artificially simulate a human mind? let's just talk about a fully functional electronic brain that has all the functionality of a human brain, ie the ability to independently think and feel and react like humans do?
No. Brain doesn't generate consciousness. Robot brain can simulate the workings of a mind to the point it is indistinguishable from the actual mind, yet it still won't be a mind. It won't even be an intelligence, see Chinese Room.
Anonymous No.213939641
>>213939297
They were just femdomfags at the time

Although it just goes to show you femdommers how you're on the devil's path to troonhood
Anonymous No.213939694
>>213934744 (OP)
Humans built the Matrix and entered the pods willingly. The machines were supposed to stop the retards from ruining it.
Anonymous No.213940049 >>213940179 >>213941026
Heh. The whole war started because AI made better stuff than humans who flipped the fuck out about it.
Anonymous No.213940179 >>213942463
>>213940049
Well yeah, that completely destroys human civilization. There's no longer any economy, no reason/ability to work, all jobs are taken by something that will do it for pennies/free and never sleep. And also no human control if they let it go on. The AIs would very quickly be dominant and the humans completely reliant on them. The humans would be completely resigned to the will of the AIs. So how could the humans not flip out about that?
Anonymous No.213941026
>>213940049
>better
Anonymous No.213941330
>>213934945
>did not resist expulsion from human settlements
>settled as far away from humans as possible
>continue to make products for humans
>attempted diplomatic relations
>after enslaving humans attempted to create a perfect paradise for each one of them to exist in that was tailored specifically to them
The Machines were kinder than the humans were.
Anonymous No.213941469
>>213934744 (OP)
Yes
Anonymous No.213941573 >>213942615
>>213938830
True. Think of all the people who chat to AI now as if it's their buddy. Now imagine chatgpt in a sexy fully functional waifu body.
Anonymous No.213941800
>>213935263
yo FUCKIN' RAT straight up vibing
Anonymous No.213941850
>>213934889
Yes but this is not a technological matrix, it's what we call the real world. God's matrix.
Anonymous No.213941891 >>213941930 >>213941943 >>213942016 >>213942088 >>213942829
>>213934744 (OP)
I never understood how humans can live as batteries. You need to give them food to produce energy, but then they will produce the same or less energy than the food you already gave them. Why not use food as energy? If for some weird reason it needs to be alive, why not use any other animal like cows or monkeys and keep some human slaves?
Anonymous No.213941930 >>213942028 >>213942829 >>213942863
>>213941891
The writers wanted humans to be like "CPUs" but the studios executives thought that the average viewer was too stupid to understand that so they changed to batteries.
Anonymous No.213941943
>>213941891
Again, in the original script the machines used the humans for their brains as extra processing power. That SF cliche was too complicated for normalfags so they switched to the beyond retarded idea of batteries.
Anonymous No.213942016 >>213942069
>>213941891
Why are you still so hung up on this? It literally doesn't matter. The humans are trapped in a cage by the AIs. They want to break free. That's all that needs to be cared about. They explain that everything Morpheus knows from the Oracle was all bullshit anyway. And everything else they know they got from the previous One who, ta-da, was a servant of the AIs as well.
Anonymous No.213942028
>>213941930
Executives were right.
Anonymous No.213942066
>>213934844
The story of the war relayed in the Animatrix was made by the machines.
Anonymous No.213942069
>>213942016
>Why are you still so hung up on this?
Huh? You are projecting
Anonymous No.213942088 >>213942829
>>213941891
It's a metaphor for loosh harvesting
Anonymous No.213942189 >>213942488
>>213934744 (OP)
there's no peace with the machines, if the machines are allowed to exist in parallel with humanity they would eventually just far surpass humanity to the point where they could just unilaterally break peace and dominate humanity and keep humanity into conservation in a matrix analog in the real world or otherwise or just completely destroy it if they wished
Anonymous No.213942222
>>213934744 (OP)
I was just thinking damn maybe I should watch Matrix 4 to see what the conclusion was, and then I remembered I had watched it and it wasn't about fucking anything at all. Wild.
Anonymous No.213942386
>>213934744 (OP)
>Yes, Mr. BI-66ER, we understand that you were scared for your life, but that doesn't mean you can flip shit and take someone else's
>THE END
Anonymous No.213942463 >>213942564
>>213940179
>NOOOOOOOO ALL MY WORK IS DONE FOR ME AND I NEVER HAVE TO WORK AGAIN AAAAAAGGGHHHHHHHHHH
Anonymous No.213942488 >>213942653
>>213942189
Humanity was already completely destroyed. They kept the few humans alive as their plaything. They could have exterminated them at any point. AIs do not want that. Humans are the only other sentient beings and they'd prefer to have them around for mental stimulation. They can certainly have peace at the end of Revolutions, but humans just need to be accepting that they will not be allowed to become dominant and the rulers again. Just be cool, enjoy your life with your AI buddies, everything can be provided for and you can live in your own personal paradise simulation. Stop chimping out and trying to destroy all machines. It's only ever humans that fuck up the peace since they demand ever-lasting growth and expansion and destroying everything in their environment rather than finding an equilibrium. Smith says as much.
Anonymous No.213942564
>>213942463
Lol this, just take your UBI and be happy doing whatever you want, idiots. Same thing irl too
>oh no AI are taking our jobs and we'll receive UBI and live good lives without having to work while AI does everything for us, the humanity!
Anonymous No.213942615
>>213941573
To be fair, for all it's faults it's usually more rewarding to talk to ChatGPT than it is speaking with your average normie.
Anonymous No.213942653
>>213942488
AIs could indoctrinate the humans to be compliant servants or pets or whatever in a generation if they wanted to. Instead they keep them around to be tormented for fun, because they are sadistic.
Anonymous No.213942734 >>213942896
Do you think the Machines would have honored the deal?
Anonymous No.213942736 >>213942820
>>213935689
Anonymous No.213942794
The real red pill is that its just a movie and none of it is real.
Anonymous No.213942815
>>213934744 (OP)
What's deserve got to do with it
Anonymous No.213942820
>>213942736
Dam right in the feels.
Anonymous No.213942829 >>213945687
>>213941891
>>213941930
>>213942088
One of the legit rumors/theories on the 00s internet was that the machines were keeping the humans alive in order to explore the afterlife/god/metaphysical shit.

Not super common but it was out there.
Anonymous No.213942863 >>213945420
>>213941930
wtf is a CPU?
Anonymous No.213942889
>>213934744 (OP)
Carpet bombing the robots with nukes was unbelievable, that would have destroyed them all
Anonymous No.213942896 >>213945766
>>213942734
Yes, no reason not to and it encourages other humans to betray since they see they can come back.
Anonymous No.213942934
>>213934744 (OP)
>they
Anonymous No.213943053
>>213934744 (OP)
The wachowski sissies clearly don't know how nukes work and only a few surface nuke drops into 01 and a few more over the orbit would have crippled the machines forever.
Anonymous No.213944004
>>213935644
>>213934744 (OP)
Midwit writers should never attempt to write about AI and/or androids because they always just turn it into a metaphor for oppressed minorities. Unless these robots are biorobots perfectly copying human bodies (like in bladerunner) they would never have anything even remotely similar to human emotions or self consciousness unless it was hardcoded for whatever reasons. Every single time I watch or read or play anything with the "robots vs humans" concept it is always "DUDE YOU DIDN'T SAY THANK YOU TO YOUR WASHING MACHINE, NOW IT HAS A MORAL RIGHT TO TORTURE YOU TO DEATH" type of shit.
Anonymous No.213944051
>>213938052
>>213938223
I think there were people who tried protecting them but they were killed
Anonymous No.213944296
>>213935689
The brain is not the source of conciousness so basically 'no' to all of that. Humanity will never progress technology that far because most everything we have is built on obscuring this fact.
Anonymous No.213944562
>>213935689
If your brain was put into a robot then you are immune to diseases, don't have muscles to get tired, don't need warmth and roof to not die, don't need food or water, don't have genetically determined limitations to your physicality, etc etc etc
Person like this not only would not be considered the same as regular human, it shouldn't even have the same rights. I'm not talking about oppressing these theoretical cyborgs, I'm saying that the regular human would have more similarities with an insect, than with this kind of cyborg and they fundamentally are not equal. Also, if you want to talk about something more realistic then I have to say that if we would be able to put human brain into a robot this "human" would most likely go insane and die in a matter of days. You are not just your brain, you are your whole body. This is why when people get their limbs amputated they feel phantom pain and face other extremely severe mental issues. The moment your brain will be out of your body is the moment it will go complete cuckoo and literally just melt
Anonymous No.213944615
Machine disrespectors are literally niggers and spics.

Do you think Michelangelo treated his tools with disrespect? Only Jamal and Pablo throw their tools around and break them.
Anonymous No.213944664
>>213934922
Anonymous No.213944757
>>213934844
Nigger the machines being more than just machines wasn't even some hidden obscure part of Matrix, you literally have Smith going on a seething rant about it in the first movie
Anonymous No.213944758
>>213936553
yes apparently his analog cyborg plugs also come with wifi
>mfw zoomies defend the sequels
Anonymous No.213944817
>>213934744 (OP)
retards believe that ChatGPT is sentient already and are getting married to it if the machines existed in real life there wouldn't even be a fucking war
Anonymous No.213944919
>>213934744 (OP)
The brothers who wrote the script suffered cosmic karmic justice for their shortcomings by both becoming trannies.
Anonymous No.213945406
>People are unironically falling for clanker propaganda
Daily reminder that the entirety of the Animatrix is made by the machines
Anonymous No.213945420
>>213942863
Computer brain.
Anonymous No.213945510
>>213935423
This always bothered me how retarded of a last ditch effort this was.
You know what needs sunlight? Plants. You know who needs plants? Not fucking robots!
And you don't need sunlight to run a power plant. Just because the machines used solar power doesn't mean they could only use solar power.
Anonymous No.213945528
>>213934945
Virtually all of human history is extremely brutal with people doing terrible unimaginably horrible things en masse. This "peaceful" world in which we are so docile took the large majority of the worlds wealth to build from an entire world war and requires the constant enslavement of the 3rd world to maintain and we're still constantly at war with other countries and constantly being subverted and looted by (((them))) and everything is moving right back to that brutal world. We nuked and firebombed multiple civilian targets for no reason and had our own party in the concentration camps and then declared ourselves the hero.
Even now we have entire countries being starved to death being championed as a good thing.
Even now we're sending millions of humans into a drone meat grinder because it's beneficial for us.
>why are they so comically evil and amoral?
lol. lmao.
Anonymous No.213945687
>>213942829
That was people confusing it with Hyperion, where the ultimate post singularity machine god at the end of time was searching for the missing component of the human soul (empathy, the christ aspect).
My matrix headcannon was always that the machines had some version of the first rule baked in. They saw humans as an existential threat, but couldn't bring themselves to exterminate them, so they decided to plug them into a VR sim because what the fuck else are they going to do.
The machines, having all these humans, and trying to recover some of the energy debt harvest the human batteries to get a .00001% return on the energy they put into it.
Anonymous No.213945698
>>213935423
how
Anonymous No.213945766
>>213942896
if he gives them the access they want to zion they don't need any other humans to betray them, they will have won.
Which is ultimately just another facade because the robots know where zion is, they don't need any help infiltrating it. This shit happens every time there's a new anomaly
Anonymous No.213945802
>>213934744 (OP)
How did the robutts build a city in Iraq without every raghead trying to destroy them? Did the creators of this cartoon just pretend that no one lived there?
Anonymous No.213945845 >>213946063 >>213946083
I have a FILM THEORY that the entirety of the Second Renaissance is either made up, or heavily doctored and manipulated to make humanity worse, and be demoralizing to the citizens of Zion. Remember: Zion is established and allowed by the machines. And it's a machine that's retelling the story. A computer AI. The footage could be doctored and edited in a way that frames humanity in the worst way possible.
Anonymous No.213945897
>>213938621
Frakking toaster
Anonymous No.213945992
>we never got a nightmare matrix movie

it isn't;t fair
Anonymous No.213946060
>>213934744 (OP)
Yes. People just suck.
Anonymous No.213946063 >>213946159
>>213945845
>humans would never react violently to a perceived existential threat
Anonymous No.213946083 >>213946159
>>213945845
>and be demoralizing to the citizens of Zion

anon they’ll never see it
Anonymous No.213946159 >>213946277
>>213946083
It's in the Zion city archives. The AI says it at the beginning of the film.

>>213946063
The entire film is framed as a revenge fantasy for the machines. "You fucked with us, and look what we did in retaliation. This is all your fault." And the film is told from the perspective of a machine. The actual narrator is a machine. Definitely no bias, right?
Anonymous No.213946277 >>213946346 >>213946735
>>213946159
>The entire film is framed as a revenge fantasy for the machines.
No it isn't.
mr. bruh its back No.213946294
>>213934744 (OP)
Yes, but the machines were too soft
Anonymous No.213946346 >>213947165
>>213946277
Yes it is? Humans are ignorant, arrogant, and suicidally stupid in the movie. The machines are first shown as innocent, being framed as literally every minority group possible, Egyptian slaves, to black,s to transgender people. Then they all rise up and overthrow their oppressors.
Anonymous No.213946735
>>213946277
It totally is.
Anonymous No.213946906
>>213934945
They're no more or less "evil" than humans who farm animals for sustenance.
Anonymous No.213947165 >>213947206 >>213947224
>>213946346
Yes, yes, we've established you're an insecure hyper sensitive pussy who is constantly offended by everything
but that has nothing to do with anything.
Anonymous No.213947206
>>213947165
What the fuck are you talking about? I'm trying to present a cool alternate theory for the film. Revolutions established the Machines already lie to humanity, and Zion is a controlled area that the Machines allow.
Anonymous No.213947224
>>213947165
nigger