Thread 213936309

>be Vegeta
>spend your whole life obsessed with power and becoming the strongest you can
>have a power level of 18,000 after decades of training, conditioning and pursuing strength
>still pale in comparison to the likes of the Ginyu Force
>get beat up once or twice
>suddenly eclipse the Ginyu Force and can even tangle against Frieza's low level forms, something no one else in the universe could do before

Why don't Saiyans just beat the shit out of each other to trigger Zenkai boosts instead of wasting time training? Turns out any Saiyan could have gotten within Frieza's ballpark after a couple of self inflicted ass whoopings

(Also why Zenkai boosts are the dumbest fucking addition to this franchise)

>>213936309 (OP)
Average Saiyan would just curbstomp the other's neck.

>>213936309 (OP)
Zenkai boost has a limit, it has to come from real struggle and the stress of battle and can't just be self inflicted on purpose. Vegeta makes krillin shoot him in the chest on purpose so dende can heal him but it doesn't work. Saiyan's can get exponentially stronger by just pushing themselves to the absolute limit with training, Goku knew that and it's why he used gravity training and the time chamber to endure intense conditions and push himself past his limit. And Goku understood power isn't everything and technical skill is more important. Goku also fights for the good of others which pushes him farther than vagetas selfish lust for power ever could.

Vegeta wanted cheap power quickly without earning it and that's why he can never match goku and his work ethic. Even future trunks began to understand gokus methodical approach to developing technique as opposed to vagetas focus on raw power which fucked them both over during the cell saga when their ascended Saiyan forms were too bulky and slow despite their increased power.

>>213937696
>their ascended Saiyan forms were too bulky and slow despite their increased power.
Vegeta understood this as well and is why he didn't use the bulked up form. Vegeta is stronger than Goku and repeatedly gets ahead of him but Goku's willingness to train and learn from others is why he leapfrogs so far over Vegeta over and over. Vegeta's character flaw is trusting others and its took several arcs before he broke that issue and is now accepting training from Whis and sparring with Goku frequently.

>>213936309 (OP)
>>213937696
Oozaru held Sayains back. They never got in near-death fights against stronger opponents because they'd just go giant monkey and clown stomp anything that gave them trouble.

>>213937696
>Vegeta makes krillin shoot him in the chest on purpose so dende can heal him but it doesn't work

He gets significantly stronger after that.

>>213937696
vegeta is a gag character the audience liked so the author made a rival that is humiliated all the time
first it was krillin
it's just how japanese mind works you can't succeed unless somebody is put down

>>213937696
didn't cell get a zenkai boost?