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Anonymous No.213938599 >>213938734 >>213939154 >>213939214 >>213939328 >>213939430 >>213939454 >>213939555 >>213939615 >>213940650 >>213940668 >>213940904 >>213941085 >>213942194 >>213942290 >>213942771 >>213943224 >>213944404 >>213944700 >>213945059 >>213945107 >>213945189 >>213945808 >>213946922 >>213947267 >>213949683 >>213949836 >>213949889 >>213950038 >>213950641 >>213951162
What caused the death of capeshit?
Anonymous No.213938734 >>213939154 >>213939826
>>213938599 (OP)
covid
Anonymous No.213939035 >>213939154 >>213939180 >>213939696
Zoomer ADHD
Anonymous No.213939154
>>213938599 (OP)
financial crisis, incompetence and fatigue, in this order

>>213938734
I disagree. Back in the day there were already elite TV channels, as well as online sales and rent and DVD's and piracy


>>213939035
Disagree. Zillennials and zoomers are capable of binge watching good series and playing long video games. And while 'shorts' are recent concept, short videos have existed since inception of YouTube
Anonymous No.213939180 >>213939230 >>213942814
>>213939035
Zoomers think comic book films are for aged wine aunts and millennial manchildren, and they're not wrong.
Anonymous No.213939214 >>213945259
>>213938599 (OP)
Endgame was the final boss of capeshit, now everything else is just dlc
Anonymous No.213939230 >>213939362 >>213949912
>>213939180
Well when this is what the studios put out who can blame them
Anonymous No.213939328
>>213938599 (OP)
>No American flag
Anonymous No.213939362 >>213939525 >>213939587
>>213939230
Is everyone at WB retarded? This is CW tier
Anonymous No.213939403 >>213945259
It caused it's own death.
Since Endgame every single cape movie has become progressively more expensive and of worse quality, without exception.
Emily of 4chan !vOczjEBNSI No.213939430 >>213939647
>>213938599 (OP)
Bree Larson.
Anonymous No.213939454
>>213938599 (OP)
Superman 2025 was just painfully mediocre, carried by an iconic IP. No one can say why anyone should see this besides umm it’s Superman.
Anonymous No.213939525 >>213941040
>>213939362
>This is CW tier
No, this looks like a Bollywood movie. The CW Superman show actually looked better imo.
Anonymous No.213939555
>>213938599 (OP)
overexposure
Anonymous No.213939587
>>213939362
>Is everyone at WB retarded?
Do you really have to ask? They've been bought and sold how many times now?
Anonymous No.213939615
>>213938599 (OP)
it got too complicated. superhero movies used to be something you could turn your brain off and watch. it was a big deal when the avengers happened because we were spoonfed the slop well enough to see multiple main characters at the same time. now you have to watch too much to know whats going on and remember too many characters. DC was never good, and the reboot made it too confusing for the average american.
Anonymous No.213939647 >>213939710
>>213939430
Captain Marvel was the MCU's first major misstep, but they could have corrected. instead they leaned into it until nobody wanted to go see the movies anymore because they weren't good.
Anonymous No.213939696 >>213939889 >>213941711 >>213942970
>>213939035
Capeshit is ADD core.
Anonymous No.213939710
>>213939647
No that was ant man. They even put the big bad into his movie. It’s also the idea that wow we can make anyone a superstar like with Shang chi and eternals.
Anonymous No.213939826
>>213938734
Why didn't covid affect Spider-man or Deadpool and Wolverine?
Anonymous No.213939889
>>213939696
Why didn't she just turn around normally? It would have been faster.
Anonymous No.213940650
>>213938599 (OP)
It's so oversaturated that they can't even do Origin movies anymore. The Batman and Superman felt like sequels to movies and people didn't really feel a connection with the characters.
Anonymous No.213940668
>>213938599 (OP)
Too much capeshit.
Anonymous No.213940904
>>213938599 (OP)
Nothing really new, so they focus on "social storytelling." Plus the people who work behind the scenes HATE HATE HATE doing "fan service." They see it as an evil thing that should be avoided. They see giving the PAYING CUSTOMERS what they want as an evil restraint on the things that they want to push instead. What gives fans and paying customers the right to have expectations, and rob a room full of diversity (mainly White women who are so awful that they couldn't get laid by a 3rd-world rape gang) the chance to express themselves and what they want?

Deadpool and Wolverine showed the success of fan service delivered, but that's an anomaly that the rest of the capeshit universe is actively trying to ignore in spite of its $1.3 billion success for an R-rated movie.
Anonymous No.213941040
>>213939525
Even bollywood has better production design than this crap
Anonymous No.213941085 >>213942182
>>213938599 (OP)
It’s not dead, Gunn is just fucking shit and a pedo kike. I can’t wait until WB fires him and he gets exposed again for molesting children.
Anonymous No.213941252
There are no stakes in Cape movies
Anonymous No.213941711
>>213939696
I hate this ugly bitch so much. Stupid fucking face. Everyone in this movie is ugly, a jew, or an ugly jew. Fucking terrible piece of shit.
Anonymous No.213942182
>>213941085
Every movie Gunn has made outside of Marvel has been an utter flop.
Anonymous No.213942194 >>213942412
>>213938599 (OP)
Besides all the other sit mentioned in this thread, Disney and WB both seemed to think that there would be no lingering repercussions from any of their poor decisions and that once they were done with their period of social experimentation or releasing multiple DOA films in universes they'd already announced were dead they could just flip a switch, announce they were trying for real this time you guise, and expect everybody to just come back like it had been all good the entire time.

If you actually cared about Superman or Batman, watching DC put both Affleck and Cavill in timeout for years while greenlighting Birds of Prey, Blue Beetle, Black Adam, a Suicide Squad reboot and then a new solo Batman movie that just exists in its own parallel timeline and has nothing to do with anything was an inexplicable slap in the face. They made the wrong decision, then double down and tripled down and quadrupled down....it's like a restaraunt that fucks up your meal four or five times in a row. Even if you eventually hire a new chef I might not come back because it's clear the people in charge just don't know what they're doing and I'm not obliged to give perpetual mulligans to dipshit corporate executives. If you manage to kill whatever enthusiasm people once had for this shit it doesn't just come back overnight. You weren't supposed to fuck it up the first time
Anonymous No.213942290 >>213943025 >>213949744
>>213938599 (OP)
I hate Snyder spammers. Anyways
Anonymous No.213942336
Dome boring no name twink instead of gigachad henry
It never stood a chance
Anonymous No.213942412
>>213942194
basically this. they never realized people actually LIKED Affleck and Cavill. It was the shit surrounding them that no one liked.
Anonymous No.213942771
>>213938599 (OP)

I recently watched this on a livestream and holy shit, it has some of the worst editing I've ever seen.
Anonymous No.213942814 >>213947078
>>213939180
You watched every marvel movie up to infinity war just like everyone else.
Anonymous No.213942970 >>213943023
>>213939696
Gunnfags shilled all day for THIS shit?
Anonymous No.213943023 >>213943186
>>213942970
Snyder fags look like a phone book of brown people
Anonymous No.213943025
>>213942290
Cool. Won’t beat BvS.
Anonymous No.213943186
>>213943023
How does that image make the scene I was criticising any better? All it means is you have no life and need any ammo you can find against people criticising your shitty Gunnslop, loser.
Anonymous No.213943224
>>213938599 (OP)
Superman shouldn't be that corny and the script should have been cleaned a lot, as for Disney is the females in charge.
Anonymous No.213944404
>>213938599 (OP)
james gunn terrible writing.
Anonymous No.213944700 >>213944866 >>213945028 >>213945259
>>213938599 (OP)
Basically?
Endgame.
People were far more willing to eat up all the slop on the Marvel side because they could see the end of the road and the big event that'll make it all worth it.
Endgame came and went and likely will be the peak of the genre as far as money made goes for decades to come.
Post endgame? Marvel quality became the same slot as the DC movie universe was at the time, but there was no big event movie that people actually gave a shit about to make all the slop worth stomaching for normies.
Marvel and Disney proceeded to flood the market with slop after slop and it ended up just causing people to give up interest in the genre and now people only really turn up for Capeshit stuff that looks like it'll not be more of the same slop.
Anonymous No.213944866 >>213944947
>>213944700
It's funny because both DC and Marcel have endless A+ masculine material/characters/stories like Blade and Constantine.....
>but since good storytelling is not on their Agenda we just get money laundering DEI slop
Anonymous No.213944947
>>213944866
It's gotten to the point where I don't even want them to touch Blade or Constantine because those are both properties I really like and reading how they fumbled the production of the Blade movie for years and wanted to make it more feminist slop is so disheartening, might as well just leave it alone and keep pumping out shit
Anonymous No.213945028
>>213944700
>People were far more willing to eat up all the slop on the Marvel side because they could see the end of the road and the big event that'll make it all worth it.
Which tbqh, might be the only benefit Gunn's nu-universe may get now. Being able to establish a clear event movie down the line that everything leads to.
But that's gonna take ages to do and his time with the universe might not even last long enough to do it.
Marvel's already poisoned the well and putting everything on Secret Wars/Doomsday to try and save their IP before a reboot.
For once DC has the advantage of being able to get the head start on the reboot shit, but is that even enough to get past the stigma that Marvel and DC's caused for capeslop the past decade? Doubtful
Anonymous No.213945059
>>213938599 (OP)
unironically DEI, everybody hate that shit in their brainless entertainment
Anonymous No.213945107
>>213938599 (OP)
>What caused the death of capeshit?
Oversaturation. Sticking to the same cookie-cutter formula again and again. Childish stories that lack weight or impact.
Anonymous No.213945189
>>213938599 (OP)
Endgame.
Anonymous No.213945259 >>213945382 >>213945895 >>213945970
>>213939214
>>213939403
>>213944700
>muh Engame

Why did Spiderman 3 earn so much?
Why did Batman do so well?
nuances exist
Anonymous No.213945306
What was once fun and novel is now almost 2 decades old. All the tweens who watched Ironman 1 are grown up and moved on and the new slop doesn't appeal to the new tweens.
Anonymous No.213945382
>>213945259
>it didn't just immediately fall off a cliff all at once post-endgame checkmate atheist
You really thought you were the nuancebro in this shit lmao
Anonymous No.213945808 >>213946680
>>213938599 (OP)
>let’s indefinitely churn out 3 movies and 5 tv shows a year, totally oversaturating the market with shitty made in India CGI, terrible writing, and lame action that only appeals to people who weren’t born with souls, all with a bunch of outdated, lame, creatively exhausted comic book characters that range from vietnam war era old to older than WWII
>wtf why are superhero movies less popular now
Anonymous No.213945895 >>213949338
>>213945259
You jeets are a broken recordThe Batman didn’t make a billion and he’s DC biggest selling character. Spider Man is biggest selling capeshit character had he was paired up with Maguire, Garfield, Dafoe, Dr Strange etc. Next one got him with The Punisher and The Hulk. No capeshit character is making close to a billion on their own Post Covid outside Spider Man
Anonymous No.213945970 >>213946062
>>213945259
>Why did Spiderman 3 earn so much?
Event movie for Spiderman like Civil War was for Captain America. There's a reason Secret Wars whole is doing exactly what No Way Home and Deadpool & Wolverine did.
Also why they're turning the next Spiderman into another event film where they throw every character they can fit into it.
Anonymous No.213946062
>>213945970
Event films are only way to get people in large numbers to want to see a movie as opposed to just waiting for it to hit steaming. Since DC has no
legacy characters, Gunn is having to building them up. Got the Superman movie. Next Supergirl movie. Following year a team up will be the event movie. Wonder Woman movie is in the works and likely build for another event movie
Anonymous No.213946680 >>213946821
>>213945808
Well, the alternative is releasing good movies but those tend to be beautiful/uplifting - much too good for proles
Anonymous No.213946821 >>213947823
>>213946680
Doesn’t matter what you release now. Direct steaming is the reality. People will just wait for shit to dumped into Disney+ and HBO Max in a few months instead of paying $16-20 to see it. Theaters are all on the verge of bankruptcy
Anonymous No.213946887
If they went back to making a new one every 10 years I might be interested but getting flooded with ****shit has made me lose all interest in any of it for at least 2 decades now.
Anonymous No.213946922 >>213947009
>>213938599 (OP)
People have been saying capeshit is dead for like 6 years now and it just keeps coming. Every fucking year there's another Batman, Spiderman, or Superman movie, or some sort of spinoff. This shit is never going to end until every one of these movies starts bombing. Like, not breaking even like Superman '25, but outright bombing and losing the studios a ton of money.
Anonymous No.213947009 >>213947060
>>213946922
Superman did great in the US so that’s not going to happen anytime soon. We love our superheroes
Anonymous No.213947060 >>213947128
>>213947009
I prefer Pizzaman
>T. Italian
Anonymous No.213947078 >>213949732
>>213942814
I stopped watching them when Iron Man 2 came out
Anonymous No.213947128
>>213947060
Based
Anonymous No.213947267
>>213938599 (OP)
Let me give the final answer to posts like this
>MCU Capeshit ended with End Game
>DCU Capeshit ended with Snyder Cut
>Deadpool 3 was a capeshit epithaph filled with memberberries and capeshit tropes
>Both companies have been on a flop streak for a long time so people have lost interest
>What people truly want from Snyder are his dark aesthetics, because they were a nice, antithetical alternative to MCU's colourful aesthetics
>Snyder was always bad at doing his own thing plot wise, and we can see that in BvS
>On the other hand, he loves the comics and their heroes, and his capeshit is always honest and soulful in its corniness and his christian boner
>DC execs have always been a pain in Snyder's (and Cavil's) ass, because they are incompetent with their choices, and were too eager to rush things to keep up with MCU
>Snyder became too cocky after the success of Snyder Cut, and the rest of his work is him being high on his own farts.
> He played the "release the snyder cut" card for Rebel Moon again but with poor results and lost my respect as a film director
Anonymous No.213947823 >>213947927
>>213946821
The only 3 decent movies released in past 3 years were Gran Turismo, Ford vs Ferrarai, and Godzilla Minus One - all doing very well.

So many shit movies going to the theater is like going to a Water Park filled with dookie fluid. Of course ppl would rather stream. There are great scripts in studio vaults but they 'don't fit the agenda' so instead we get garbage
Anonymous No.213947927 >>213949233 >>213949438
>>213947823
Not the point. Reality now with movies is
“Do I need to see this in theaters and pay ridiculous ticket prices or can I just wait to see it on steaming in the comfort of my home?”
Cameron uses the 3D gimmick where people feel they need to see Avatar on the big screen. Nolan is using the IMAX gimmick the same way
Anonymous No.213949233
>>213947927
No there is the clear 3rd option of not doing either and just not watching Marvel flick #52
Anonymous No.213949338
>>213945895
>You jeets are a broken recordThe Batman didn’t make a billion and he’s DC biggest selling character.
Because the movie sucked and was too long?
Anonymous No.213949438 >>213949693
>>213947927
anon literally missing the point by THIS much
People don't want to go to theaters to see garbage..they will pay to go to theaters if its good. Godzilla M1 turned 11mil into 10x that with nothing but a good story. Gran Turismo did well for a vidya movie, and Ford vs Ferrarai did well too.

I mean you can do 'straight to streaming movies' and do well but they'd better have a good story. IIRC the recent All Quiet on the Western Front was a Netflix production.
Anonymous No.213949683
>>213938599 (OP)
jews, browns and nigs
Anonymous No.213949693 >>213949873
>>213949438
Are you an idiot? Gran Turismo made 44 million in the US, 122 worldwide. Wow! Ford Vs Ferrari pre Covid made 225 million total. Now My Big Fat Greek Wedding which came out in 2002 made 368 million which adjusted for inflation be close 700 million. That movie came out today it would go straight to steaming
Anonymous No.213949732
>>213947078
No you didn’t.
Anonymous No.213949744
>>213942290
Do you think it will fail at the box office even worse than Superkike?
Anonymous No.213949836
>>213938599 (OP)
It's the same action sequences with ragdoll physics and indestructible bodies repeated ad nauseum in every comic book movie.
Anonymous No.213949873 >>213950031
>>213949693
Gran Turismo doubled up from 60m budget - great for a video game movie. Ford v Ferrarai more than doubled up. Love how you ignore Gozilla Minus One lol. Those have been the ONLY good movies since 2020. 1994 had more good movies the first half of the year lol

You sound like a modern screenwriter/exec mad that no one wants visual goyslop. Sucks to suck
Anonymous No.213949889
>>213938599 (OP)
We're just bored of it

Really, really, really, really fucking bored of it
Anonymous No.213949912
>>213939230
It looks like it was made for indian people.
Anonymous No.213950031 >>213950274
>>213949873
Those are not blockbusters. Those aren’t getting asses into theaters. Minus One made 57 million in the US. That’s not gong to keep movie theaters from going bankrupt. They struggle so bad loading up commercials before movie started to try and make some money
Anonymous No.213950038
>>213938599 (OP)
Oversaturation. DC should just focus on "Elseworld" stuff and they do not need Gunn to be their Feige in order to do that.
Anonymous No.213950274
>>213950031
Are you fucking retarded?

Movie theaters have like 15 screens per place. So for FIVE YEARS there was ONLY 3 good movies - NO FUCKING SHIT PEOPLE WON'T PAY FOR GARBAGE.

Making 2-3x the budget is good. Problem is, nuHollywood has only done that for 3 movies in 5 years. 3 movies out of hundreds. If you don't get this you should kys
Anonymous No.213950641
>>213938599 (OP)

The same thing that kills any other adaptation, a lack of understanding of why the original product works.

While there is no magic formula that would ensure success analyzing and replicating variables of previously successful products has always been the industry´s approach. But what is not understood can not be replicated.

You can get away with a lot of changes in adaptations but you need to at least be able to identify what core elements define your IP identity and you just can´t do without.

Gunn doesn´t understand Superman in the same way Disney doesn´t understand Star Wars or Netflix doesn´t understand the Witcher. Or maybe they do understand it but just don´t like it and want to make something different and just want the name for the associated consumer base.

When people say "respect the source" that often means "the source is good" rather than "do a 1:1 adaptation". I´m guessing comic book readers think of very specific arcs when they think about any given hero and compare against that not because they want a 1:1 adaptation but rather because that´s what define the characters for them. This or that good story is the reason this person love Batman or Spiderman or Superman or Wonder Woman.

That said success is not always related to quality... some times it´s marketing, some times is just giving the audience what they want. When you deny them what they want they feel cheated. People probably don´t feel like paying to see a wimpy Superman get his ass constantly handed to him or to be dissed regardless of how well he made.
Anonymous No.213951162
>>213938599 (OP)
>Matt McGloin