Thread 213948415

Is 1917 any good other than the one shot gimmick?

>>213948415 (OP)
Its okay, 3/5 at best

it's the 2nd best WW1 movie and really a fantastic film

Adolescence

>>213948415 (OP)
not a bad story but the one shot thing is a distracting gimmick overall

Video game "press x to not die" cutscene movie with no depth. It might as well be a WW1 themepark ride at universal studios.

>>213948415 (OP)
There are moments when the one shot technique is really effective, but it doesn't serve the whole movie. It feels like watching a live action letsplay.

>>213948494
>Video game "press x to not die" cutscene movie with no depth
explain how 1917 is a cutscene movie without indemnifying all action films at the same time

>>213948415 (OP)
It was great up until based Tommen Baratheon dies. Why the fuck does he die in everything?

>>213948472
>not a bad story

It's a shitty barebones excuse plot story. As if they didn't have radio communication, messenger pigeons, planes, etc to tell someone to not launch an attack.

And anyway so many people died every day on the front it's not as if calling off one assault would really change much.
>>213948553
Some action movies at least try to build up something in terms of plot, character, dialogue, etc.

1917 is a bunch of action vignettes stapled together by a fake one shot gimmick.
>>213948592
Too fat to last in the front

>>213948553
the protagonist gets carted from one scenario to the next, shit just happens around him without his intervention
it's a themepark ride

>>213948614
>Some action movies at least try to build up something in terms of plot, character, dialogue, etc.
but that happens. the protagonist is a stay-out-of-it pragmatist, who is motivated towards self-sacrifice by the death of his good-hearted friend. He puts every ounce of his strength into the journey and seemingly fails, but realizes at the last moment that he's made it - his dedication has paid off. We get a harrowing vignette of loss as he sprints to the finish, too late yet to save hundreds. It's a sad film about the journey of a survivor who keeps the darkness at bay for just 24 hours.

that's just as legitimate as literally any other war film. The entire genre consists of "action vignettes stapled together".

>>213948460
What’s the best?

>>213948415 (OP)
Not sure what it all meant. In general, it seems to have been about survivors guilt.

>>213948817
What did each setpiece represent?
The tunnels
The orchard and downed pilot
The river crossing
The truck with soldiers
The burning village
The forest

Is this the one where they couldn't be bothered to CGI out giant cranes(?) or was that Dunkirk?

>>213948817
>the protagonist is a stay-out-of-it pragmatist

lmao he volunteered for what was a pointless suicide mission

> motivated towards self-sacrifice by the death of his good-hearted friend

That was halfway through the movie, he was under orders to deliver the pointless halt order anyway it's not like he could just go back (despite the fact the skies had cleared up and planes were flying overhead meaning the message could have been relayed by then) without an excuse.

There's no way to really know what he was thinking or what motivated him exactly because there's barely any dialogue anyway as it's as barebones as possible so not to take away from the one shot gimmick/action.

>>213948907
Prolly Paths of Glory

>>213948907
Paths of glory

>>213949007
Dunkirk was the one that put no effort into making Dunkirk look like it was a war zone or taking place in 1940.

>>213949042
Ah cheers mate.

>>213949017
>lmao he volunteered for what was a pointless suicide mission
no he didn't. he got picked by his buddy because they both thought it would be some boring task and that food would be involved. you didn't even watch the film

>>213948984
are you a high-school student taking an intro to film studies class? what a stupid question.

>>213949067
It's not like they backed out of it once they heard what the pointless mission was, so yeah he was a volunteer, moron.

He also didn't go back once it was obvious the lines were rapidly moving past him (on top of there already being planes in the sky) so his mission was redundant.
>>213949104
No he's right and you're an idiot, there are no themes in this movie, it's action schlock.

1917 was quite frankly an embarrassing attempt of Roger Deakins to be Emmanuel Lubezki

>>213948415 (OP)
The part when it's night is good

>>213948415 (OP)
I watched it twice and really enjoyed it both times.

>>213949164
They couldn't find a worse place to film that scene, look at that endless nothingness they are pretending to charge at.
Like the other anon said the entire movie looks like it was filmed at a theme park.

>good thing is le bad actually. aren’t you SHOCKED by my contrarian opinion???? give me (You)s now
t. /tv/

The one shot thing is goofy, especially when they do 34 cuts. It's not even impressive!

>>213949366
>>good thing is le bad actually. aren’t you SHOCKED by my contrarian opinion???? give me (You)s now
>t. /tv/
t. actually shook to learn that the mid movie is mid

>>213948907
Obviously Paths of Glory

>>213948415 (OP)
It's entertaining but the whole thing comes across as hollow and it really is just a gimmick film

>>213949406
>mid
meaningless thought terminating cliche. did it insist on itself too much for you faggot? some other meme?

>>213949104
So it all means nothing? It's just a railroaded sequence of weightless action scenes?

>>213949251
>It's not like they backed out of it once they heard what the pointless mission was, so yeah he was a volunteer, moron.
you're the moron here. that's not how things work in the military
>wow sir that mission sounds unpleasant. I'm withdrawing haha. good luck finding someone else though, all the best

>>213949713
>waow, the scenes don't represent ideas? so the movie is about nothing then???
genuinely 80 IQ

>>213948614
>As if they didn't have radio communication, messenger pigeons, planes, etc to tell someone to not launch an attack.
Dipshit are you actually trying to say there weren't fucking runners in ww1?
>Even though field telephones were widely used for the first time during World War I (1914–18), they relied on copper wire lines, which were often damaged or unreliable, or simply unavailable as troops advanced. Radio technology existed, but was generally regarded as too insecure for frontline use. Most armies still made extensive use of runners throughout the war.
>Adolf Hitler, who was a runner in the Bavarian Army during World War I, was wounded twice and received both the Iron Cross first class and second class during the war.

>>213949017
>volunteered
You didn’t even pay attention lmao

>>213949580
Literally shook

>>213948984
NTA, but everything after he almost gets shot and the time skip I saw as representing a descent to hell (burning village), temptation (the woman in the basement), and redemption back to life (the river and the coming of dawn).

>>213950052
>NTA
nobody cares which anonymous poster you are, go back to r*ddit

>>213950084
NTA, but you’re a seething faggot :^)

>>213948907
Kubricks Paths of Glory and its not even fucking close

>>213949787
I said the movie was ultimately about survivors guilt. But what does each setpiece mean?

the indiana jones segment was hilarious

>1,600 soldiers at risk
sad to say but back in the Great War the generals wouldn't have given a shit about losing that on the off chance they could gain some territory

I found it to be video game-shit

Yes, some shots and or moments are good, but as a whole it doesn't work. Weird movie

>>213948415 (OP)
The one shot gimmick is the main bad part, would have been solid without it

>>213948415 (OP)
yes it's great

>>213948415 (OP)
No

>>213949821
uh oh very emblematic of the criticisms he offers
a real 4chan free thinker

Except a retarded scene where a German aviator stabs a British infantryman, it's p. good war movie. Only one pajeet, no Negro and women soldiers of the British Expeditionary Force.

It turned WW1 into a video game/theme park ride with cartoonish action hero scenarios and an extremely cathartic ending when the actual war was the complete opposite: a horror show full of suffering with no payoff, something so ugly and terrifying that modern audiences can scarcely comprehend it, but also so banal that it wouldn't make a satisfying watch even for the most morbid of watchers. There's a moment IIRC where the MC briefly dips his hand with an open wound into a dirty puddle, and for sure I thought it would get infected and be a plot point later, but nah the movie's sanitization also comes with built-in plot armor for the main character.

>>213948415 (OP)
Meh. It's neat spectacle to watch in a kinoplex and not much more. The one shot aspect doesn't really add much to it's merits other than forcing the production to have longer cuts and not use modern schizophrenic music video style editing, so it has some of the good qualities of older hollywood films.

Should've fucked a Negro woman like in another movie with the same actor.

it's empty "sensory experience" video game bullshit

>>213949821
Damn I thought the 13th amendment made it illegal to own people this hard

>>213948907
Netflix all quiet

>>213948415 (OP)
It's impressive but draws way too much attention to tiself and honestly could have been done better

As a war movie in its own right it's worth watching but ultimately merely ok, you won't want to watch it again

>>213948907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1INgb1d0IFs

>>213951857
I though the point was that it shows how this tiny episode, a short trip was enough for a lifetime
but not even a drop in the ocean of effort

>>213948415 (OP)
There's one scene it does really well that no other film has which is to depict the scale of some of the trench systems and craters, other than that it's a meme like all fake one-take movies. People just seem to move like they're wading through molasses when they have such precise marks to hit.

>>213952378
More movies should have copied Children of Men and let some scenes breathe with fake one shots, not just the big action scenes but like the beginning of 1917 before the fat guy got killed by the Kraut

>>213948614
nice r*ddit spacing faggot

I fuck with fake one takes because it still usually leads to some kino 20+ minute scenes like Birdman, but I agree with anon here >>213951857 about it really not getting WW1 and kind of trivializing it and being revisionist about it

>>213948415 (OP)
I enjoyed the first hour or so, started to lose interest, and a little later just switched it off.

>>213949821
>Radio technology existed, but was generally regarded as too insecure for frontline use

Stop using wikipedia, that had radios in the field.

>Adolf Hitler, who was a runner

runners ran between the commanding officers behind the lines and front lines, not between different corps.

They would have used planes, radio, telegraph, just about anything besides two very slow soldiers to get messages between two widely separated groups.

>>213949787
>>wow sir that mission sounds unpleasant.

aka he's just following orders after stupidly volunteering for a moronic suicide mission.

Movie would have been 100x better without the one-shot garbage.

>>213948415 (OP)
I liked that they didn't waste any time on a "the good German" subplot, and just showed The Hun for what they really were

So why did the pilot do it?

>>213951857
did you not watch to the end? When he gets his message through and the commander reluctantly calls off the attack he says "tomorrow they'll send new orders 'attack at dawn'" intimating that all of the men he "saved" from this doomed mission are just going to die pointlessly in the meat grinder anyway.

>>213948415 (OP)
No and the one shot was claustrophobic and artificial, unlike Lubezki

>>213948415 (OP)
Its not completely one shot but birdman

>>213948907
Saving Private Ryan all other answers before this were wrong.
Pretentious faggots the lot of you

>>213948907
Kelly's Heroes

>>213952007
Go back to r*ddit

>>213954111
>Saving Private Ryan
>WWI

>>213948614
You’d think the fat ones would fare the best in ww1 because of how shitty the food was. Sort of like how fat women used to be considered the most attractive because it showed that they could afford excess food.

>>213949029
>>213949041
>>213949478
>>213950129

One of the only movies where I turned it off halfway because it sucked so much dick.
Generation Kill is objectively the best war anything followed by Black Hawk Down and Lone Survivor in 3rd.

>>213952797
>doesn’t know what r*ddit spacing is

>>213954111
Can’t tell if bait or retarded zoomer

>>213949359
>look at that endless nothingness they are pretending to charge at.
Were the trenches that opposing sides started at not typically a decent amount of space apart?

>>213948907
the dark knight

>>213949029
>>213949041
>released 1957
yeah I'll pass

>>213948907
Either Wings or the original All Quiet

>>213954681
>>213952797
why are you guys scared to say reddit

>>213948907
Gallipoli (1981)

>>213954569
so youre a 90 iq zogbot, got it

>>213948415 (OP)
its kind of shitty and feels like a video game cutscene and a lot of ridiculous capeshit tier shit happens, just look at the cover

>>213949314
Deakins doesn't make long takes look so showy like Lubezki does

the problem with the real time gimmick was too many coincidences had to happen in a short space to tell a story.

>>213955425
No it was just shittily made.
>muh film
Kubrick had a lot of goodies but Paths of Glory was not one of them.