Thread 213964199

Can someone explain to me why there is so little discussion on this board? I just checked /lit/ and there are far more serious discussions on that board compared to this one. Everytime I come here, it's just threads obsessing over actresses, mainstream garbage like capeshit, star wars, lotr, etc. When I make a thread on a certain movie like Andrei Rublev, it gets only like 5 replies and then it dies.

What can we do to improve the quality of the board? There needs to be a separate board for cinema and a separate board for plebshit like capeshit, starslop and LOTR trash

>>213964199 (OP)
The website is being killed by the staff for an unknown reason
It will never improve

>>213964199 (OP)
Come to /film/, baby, I'll receive you

Do you want to talk about the awful British gameshows and generic DIY house flipping trash my parents watch?

>>213964199 (OP)
Board moves too fast. You can only stop the obscure show you want to talk about from getting archived with 0 replies if you make the thread about women, niggers or Trump

>>213964199 (OP)
/tv/ is heavily compromised. It's basically just /po/ 2.0.

>>213964419
Jannies are too sensitive about thread discussion with political implications and occasional harmless off topic discourse.

Don't listen to this >>213964251 anon, you won't even get 5 replies to your Andrei Rublev post in /film/.

message boards in general have gone downhill. i'm not even writing properly because fuck you.

every 4chan board that's a "mainstream" activity like watching television or playing vidya is basically going to be /b/ with a theme. or, now, /pol/.

i say allowing mobile posting and .webms was a mistake. and a good rule would be "no social media screenshots"

>>213964199 (OP)
It's always been this way. People come to 4chan for /b/, then when they branch out into the niche boards they try /tv/ because people without hobbies think watching movies counts as a hobby even though everybody in the world watches movies, mostly casually. You may as well have a /toilet/ board where people discuss their bowel movements. So the percentage of people who want to discuss the history or philosophy of film will always be drowned out by people who want to shitpost about actresses and youtubers. It's baked in as board culture.

/lit/ works because the posters are mostly interested in literature and have a core canon they all read from so discussion flows easily. /mu/ and /v/ work for the same reason.

The problem is, if you want to discuss, say, the lumiere bothers voyage to the moon like in your pic, then you're expecting a board of normies to have watched it recently enough to have a passionate discussion about it over the course of a 400 post thread? for a century old film? seriously? Most people who watch movies don't watch old movies. Whereas most people who read books read old books.

>There needs to be a separate board for cinema
would be too slow for the aforementioned reasons. Just embrace the shitposts and hold out for the occasional good thread

Gook moot won't allow a celebrity containment board, so this place is constantly filled with shit. But yeah, it seems to be deliberate sabotage. I don't know why they don't make a religion board for /his/ for example.

Anyhow, the recent hack and downtime showed that good discussion CAN take place on other chans, but because they're not as fast monkee get bored.

>>213964199 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXdufqSlIxg

>>213964199 (OP)
Because zoomers don't watch old movies.

>>213964199 (OP)
You ever read Hugo Cabret OP.

>>213964199 (OP)
You're as much a pleb as the people posting actress threads if your example of the "sophisticated discussion that gets no replies" is as entry level as fucking Andrei Rublev. At least go with a Kalatozov or Ilyenko film if you're going to act patrician

>>213964199 (OP)
we're one of the most astroturfed boards. /tv/ is ridden with pajeets working for actual hollywood marketing campaings (mainly streamiing platforms, really). it's really easy to spot them because they suck and use the same faggy non-sexual "simp" posting about females or studio-friendly talking points about their products, but they kill every chance of real discussion

>>213964199 (OP)
Half of the board is paid shilling, then you have useless retards like the baskin roberts spammer who shits up this board constantly. That same spastic has also spent 10+ years talking to himself in the /mlb/ general. Basically no American pro baseball discussion happens on /sp/ because of him. Every /mlb/ general for years is just him talking to himself. The exact same shit he tries to do on here.

>>213964199 (OP)
90% of posts made on /tv/ are bots, foreign / queer agitprop, /pol/ trash, or marketers / shills. They think 4chan is still relevant among "edgy youths", when the reality is that they all moved on to tiktok. The only other fools using /tv/ are the bored middle / post-middle aged degenerates trying to cling to their high school / college days.

>>213964199 (OP)
television/film = low entry barrier "hobby", everyone does it, and as a result a lot of refuse enters the discourse.

literature/books = high leverage, high focus activity that very, very few people do. requires time, requires patience, exercises and enriches the mind with information more than nearly any other activity that can be possibly done. It also has the commonality of words with this kind of written discussion, so there's much less information being lost discussing texts on a text imageboard then discussing films through text. In the end, better discussion is a foregone conclusion when it comes to literature.

>>213965011
>People come to 4chan for /b/
this hasn't been true for 15 years

>>213965800
20 years actually
time flies, but that anon hasn't catched up

>>213965771
Damn that statue gives reddit webcomic vibes. What a waste of fucking metal

>>213964237
The reason is anonymous discourse. They're trying to ram bills through that require ID to use the Internet.

>>213965771
reading books doesn't axiomatically make you an intelligent person, and for a lot of people it actually turns them into a complete faggot because the average person will just believe and incorporate whatever ideas they read by virtue of having spent time reading it. Look at /lit/ itself, it's been in a death spiral for over a decade because literature is dead and there's only like generously 500 good books ever written, so the board is not only full of nothing but newfags discussing the same, again, generously 75 books but they're also all marxist feminist literal faggots.

>>213964199 (OP)
>western civ is kill
>dreidelwood is kill
>nothing new to watch
>nothing new to talk about
>seen everything old
>talked about it for 20 years already
There will be no new art until the wheel of time turns. Unless they get the technotronic slave grid in place and the wheel never turns again. There will then be no need for art.

>>213965011
>lumiere bothers voyage to the moon
It's George Melies', you absolute pleb

>>213965564
freaks like you who can't wait to put down an eager to learn newcomer no matter the hobby or media are even worse than capeshit dimwits. you need to grow up and mature out of that behavior if you aim to go anywhere in life

>>213965902
do you have some problem if someone is just gay? why? (shit thread, might as well.)

>>213966099
>read posts pointing out the average person is stupid and if they read a book now they're just stupid but also spout off whatever ideas the author was writing because the concept of disagreeing with something they spent time on is an anathema to them
>off handedly call them a faggot
>you, an actual faggot: d-DEBATE ME?!
no

>>213966127
the /lit/ part is what i agree with.

>>213964199 (OP)
been saying this for ages now.
goyslop infiltrates every board and fucks it up.

/kino/ should have:
>minimum characters for posts
>buzzword filters
>r9k style bans for repeating shit
>sound on webms
>an open source project attached (like 4plebs) which matches films to threads (like old imdb forums)

Also
>comic slop should be in the comic board
>actress discussion should go in /incel/ (internet celebrities)

>>213965011
>too slow
/tv/ is huge. there's easily enough volume for a split.

a /kino/ board with /trv/-tier speed would be fucking based.

>>213966355
>OI YA ROIGHT CAUNT OIVE BEEN SAYIN THIS FOR AGES OI 'AVE
kill yourself

>>213966355
>>sound on webms
fuck no. i know there's /wsg/ (and /gif/?) now, but people post enough shit from TikTok already. image boards are a great format, imagine if "short form video" was the norm. no thanks.

>>213965984
Fuck. My bad

>>213964199 (OP)
this board has been a nuclear disaster zone for many many years. the joke on /v/ is that no one plays videogames over there, well on /tv/ it's that x1000.

desu i used to give a shit years ago, even started a /film/ thread on /qa/ which was semi-successful for a couple months. now i just log on to look at waifu threads like everybody else. if you can't beat em join em. TV is bad for you anyway

most people on this board don't even watch movies and TV shows. they're just here to bitch and moan or coom to whatever underage actress they're obsessed with

>>213967475
>>213967524
The problem was the great jannie crackdown of 2019/2020. /tv/ used to be the best board hands down because it was blue /b/. Then they shut it down and /qa/ became the best board. Then they deleted /qa/ and now this entire website sucks nigger dick.

>>213965609
Take your meds. Do you honestly think 4chan gets enough foot traffic for Hollywood to give a single shit about it? The entirety of 4chan is dwarfed by a single Reddit or instagram post daily. No, you can blame the Jews or the pajeets all you want but really it’s your own company that’s pissing in your pool

>>213967682
This poster is literally Seth Rogen btw

>>213965840
And it’s fatphobic :(

>>213966389
not happening though, ai would be its own board now if people gave a shit

>>213967580
I can assure you there was nothing great about pre-2019 /tv/ or /qa/ for that matter. the capespam you see today is nothing compared to how bad it was back then.

>>213967701
Also the guy looks exactly like me
Thats really the main reason I don't like it

>>213966568
> let’s have a discussion board talking about FILMS without using any audio for some reason
Sound design makes or breaks a movie. I think it would be a disservice to not include audio when discussing the topic at hand.

>>213967857
thats why you can link what youre referencing.

Still better than /v/

>>213967857
me, i would go into the waifu threads and attach webms of actresses' booties with diarrhea sounds

The problem is that /tv/ is populated mostly by nerds (who consoom nerd shit like capeshit, lotr, star trek and star wars), not cinephiles. most people here don't even know what blocking is.

>>213967682
marketing campaigns here are dirt cheap you dumbass, even low-level crypto rugpulls do them, and 4chan is the traceable origin of so many normiesphere memes and opinions they think operating here will give them an edge. it doesn't because this place crushes fakeness

>>213964199 (OP)
>/lit/ and there are far more serious discussions on that board compared to this one
hahaha good one, you're too much of a book tourist to realize how shit it is. endless culture war, war of the sexes, im an incel heh/HELP, Peterson/Land/Yarvin, christfag, le jew, threads etc.

most of the actually on-topic ones are just shit flinging or baiting about the same dozen or so entry level authors and philosophers whatever that's worth to you
>>>/lit/24665376

>>213968000
don't forget all the frog spam. 11 up rn

>>213968000
still his point is true because atleast there is a requirement for the /lit/ board above what is required here. on /lit/ you need to read those
>meme authors
or atleast be familiar with them. on here all you need to be capable of is sitting on the couch and channel surfing while commercials interrupt any potential downtime for your brain.

>>213968191
I am really curious if this is organized or one autist, I suppose it's better than twitter screenshots at least

>>213967778
What happened?

>>213967778
>thought I was talking about tv/movie discussion despite ostensibly having read the post
>>>/a/ and stay there you autistic retard

>>213968215
>you have to read to post on /lit/
You can't really he this naive and dumb

>>213968215
>on /lit/ you need to read those
any Marx thread begs to differ

>>213968295
>>213968301
of course some people arent but youre just retarded when you keep "missing" the point.
theyre both dumb, /lit/ is slightly less dumb because it has a higher entry level.
continue arguing over this.

>>213964199 (OP)
>What can we do to improve the quality of the board?
Ban single Jewish females. Seriously, not trolling. That's all this board is. Goblin propaganda.

>>213968215
there is actually quite an extensive list of kinos to have watched to be "in on the jokes" on /tv/. There are regularly newfags whining and complaining that they don't understand and are upset people aren't spoonfeeding them the names of movies and jokes, which regulars get intuitively

>>213965011
>/toilet/ board
As long as we don't have one, I'm proud to inform you that I had two little turds today, not too firm but not too soft either.

>>213965011
>using /mu/ and /v/ as a positive example
/tv/ may be shit but these two are 10x worse

>>213968319
/lit/ is one of the most underage boards with the most newfags on the entire website. You, being an underage newfag, may find this difficult to believe, but you're in good company. Now go back >>>/lit/

>>213968408
yeah i dont even use /lit/ but these guys are getting a hate boner on me for pointing out the differences in hobbies and how tv doesnt equate to reading a book, my perspective comes from using /g/ which has equally retarded people, same as /lit/ but it also has genius level people discussing high depth stuff, like /sci/

>>213968505
You don't see /lit/ discussing shit like Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, etc. You know why? Because it is for children. This board however is obsessed with media intended for children

>>213968638
>I'm a teenager and found 4chan this year
We know

>>213968684
>t.capeshitter

>>213964199 (OP)
How is what you said even the problem? At least its discussing movies. We cannot help that Superman haters are the worlds gayest faggots and can't stop spamming in here.

The shit that is ruining /tv/ are twitter threads, actress threads where its a veiled excuse to post pictures, AI threads, political threads. If mods banned all that this board would be amazing.

Also, its another problem make a thread called A Journey To The Moon come on no zoomer has seen that or Andrei Rublev? Only Gen X has seen that.

>>213968751
>t. highschooler

>>213968582
>the higher barrier in question
your point is obvious but does not account for the reality of open zero-sum imageboard dynamics in a discussion of general quality. if anything the higher barrier results in MORE low quality posts and those that go around it.
>>213968638
>You don't see /lit/ discussing shit like Lord of the Rings
so you've never spent a day on /lit

>>213964199 (OP)
>a separate board for cinema
lol it would die in a week anon, there simply aren't enough posters interested in the subject for it to be a viable board on here. Just be grateful when your threads take off and quietly seethe when they don't like the rest of us.

>>213965011
>/toilet/ board
That would quickly become the fastest board on 4chan

>>213966389
>/trv/-tier speed
I've had a thread up on there for almost 5 months with a new post every few days, OP would be whining about getting 0 replies again

>>213968381
I've been finding blood in my stool for a few days now, pray for me anons...

>>213969215
Threads die because they're slided by actress shit, comic shit, frog shit, starshit, etc.
It's fucking pointless even trying to discuss films here. A thread dies in aobut 30 mins.

>>213969245
Absolutely based. Imagine being able to have a discussion, and getting replies every day or so. Comfy as fuck.

ALSO, are you niggas honestly saying that LESS people watch actual films than play around with literal fucking origami, ffs?

>>213966049
>you need to grow up and mature out of that behavior if you aim to go anywhere in life
kek I detest faggots like the anon you replied to as well but let's not pretend that kind of personality is an obstacle on the path to success in business or even personal relationships.

>>213968408
/mu/ isn't the worst board desu. People actually listen to fairly decent shit and speak about it.

>>213969358
>check out /mu/ after a decade long absence
>top 6 threads are kpop generals

Yeah no thank you

>>213969283
>ALSO, are you niggas honestly saying that LESS people watch actual films than play around with literal fucking origami, ffs?
its pointless to bring up, like i mentioned before an /ai/ board would exist because that stuff pollutes tons of other boards.
boards in the past have only been made because other topics are polluting another board. hence /biz/ but they dont give a fuck anymore. this place has no soul or controlling entity to be a caretaker, its just psyop training.

>>213969296
gatekeeping and being caustic in a way that's unnecessary does close down doors at some point in time

>>213964419
>It's basically just /po/ 2.0.
I FUCKING HATE ORIGAMI!!!

>>213969403
they started a colony thread in /tv/ too
>>213938924

honestly they should just ban capeshit, both the moves and shows, make a /cape/ containment board and /tv/ would improve drastically.

Yeah, the board got pretty bad. I have shitty memory when it comes to 4chan, but moder /tv/ feels very different compared to 2011 /tv/ when I discovered it.

I think I actually recognize all the silents in your picture. Seen most of them too.

>>213969585
there used to be a kpop fag who would interrupt any waifu thread to explain how his Korean girls were superior. he did this 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. haven't seen him in a while though

>>213969718
wtf happened to jeongyeon

>>213969718
i saw someone doing that just last week

Would /lit/ get pissed off if we started posting over there?

>>213969718
CODE?!

>>213969403
Like everything else on this website that's a result of the nigger mods. They could easily make it a hardline rule that there can only be one kpop general and it has to drop off the board before another one can be made. Instead it gets baby sat by the tranny jannies and they botpost not even sexy tabloid images and nonsense like
>Jenny is here!
Fill a thread up in 20 minutes and all race to make the new one. This constant spam churns threads down and off an otherwise slow board and absolutely should not be allowed

That said, you going to a board and saying "well i saw something i dont like therefore le NOPE.xD is just autism

>>213969857
/lit/ is all highschoolers and newfags

>>213970018
>They could easily make it a hardline rule that there can only be one kpop general and it has to drop off the board before another one can be made.
didn't they try this on another board and it ended up basically being impossible? people constantly made the new thread at 311 posts and they could never get it to stop so they basically gave up.

>>213970018
kpg would reach the image limit long before page 10 and need a new thread anyway

>>213967857
true, but i'm on a message board for the actual posts/discussion. frankly, i don't trust you people.

>>213970205
Its literally just bot spam and all of the posters should be perma banned. A thread like that on /tv/ would be deleted in 5 minutes

>>213965011
>/mu/ and /v/ work for the same reason
kek

>>213970018
Kpop should get their own board honestly, they're parasiting so many other boards it just makes sense. Kill /biz/ for it.

>>213971144
hiroshimoot will never give us /kr/, much like how japan will never apologize for comfort women.

>>213971144
The mods know pisses everyone else off, they're just complicit. There's fucking 9 video game boards and one for a little girls show about horses because of people being annoying but they will never do anything to improve the site ever again

>>213971077
kpg isn't bots they're my chingus

>>213971808
it's definitely bots. It isn't even possible to image and bump limit a thread organically in 20 minutes

>>213964199 (OP)
The board is too jeeted

>>213973306
you obviously don't know any kpop obsessed schizos

>>213964419
>/po/
Papercraft and origami?

>>213964199 (OP)
Where's the first still from? I know all of them but the first one and the one right below napoleon

>>213973514
why are you doing this pointless damage control? Who do you think you're fooling, and why?

just stay in your tryhard gay lit board
people don't care about pretending to enjoy garbage from 100 years ago. teenagers do that because they imagine it will make them look smart and interesting but adults know they have a limited lifespan and should focus on stuff they enjoy like pretty actresses

>>213973751
for what reason would a person bot a general on a dead board on a dying website?

>>213973795
autism/hostile moderation staff. Which is the reality.

This board got astroturfed hard. Crossposters from Reddit and Twitter come here just to repost shit or to steal content and repost it on their pages. There are people literally making money posting 4chan screenshots on social media. And you have a bunch of /tv/ threads that began popping up in the last years with suspicious post rates much higher than the rest of the board. I think jannies are on it or just want to kill the site.

>>213965011
Imdb on the old days allowed discussions per any movie in existence

>>213965011
/mu/ is 100% dead since at least late 2022

The problem is as simple as anywhere that's pozzed by the jew (4chan is evidently a CIA playground daycare for autists, gookmoot doesn't actually do anything):
The paid-jannies and people that want to change the culture and dynamics for the better are cutoff and denied completely as it doesn't serve the only and single purpose of destroying society as a whole

The most obvious example of this is /mu/, from industry powerhouse with a couple thousand users to a total shithole for retarded teenagers in a spam of 5 - 6 years
Why take care of a place that denies every single attempt to do any better? Judt move!
/mu/ literally has not had a single mod since 2019, that's why it went to absolute shit same as /b/, it's better for the USA not even bothering with some irrelevant as today hobby like music than tard wrangling a bunch of retards that listen to Phill Collins and call rap gay
They would rather get a single monthly cut from the South Korean goverment and have 20 /Kpop/ Generals at the same time that do anything about a dying cornerstone of the chan

>>213964199 (OP)
/tv/'s slop to kino ratio fell out of balance since 2020, there are way more plebs now than ever before. I'd bet most people here watch nothing more than capeshit, the newest netflix slop and ecelebs. Last month for example /tv/ was nothing but Superman and Sam Hyde threads, it was almost unusable.

>>213964237
The staff hates the userbase. They are motivated by contempt, and this affects the entire site.

>>213974750
we're trying to fix it with kdrama general but /tv/ just isn't interested in good tv, they'd rather watch the latest capeslop.

>>213973722
The first one is cabiria i believe

>>213964199 (OP)
The boards quality seems to have tanked rapidly in the last few months. While there was always some meme threads and other garbage, actual discussion did go on. I think there's just a lot of shills sliding quality threads to promote capefaggotry and such.