Thread 213965601

what was it like when this movie came out? Did people really sold their muscle cars and bought honda civics?

>>213965601 (OP)
The ricer craze was already in full effect, FnF hollyjew trying to cash in on the craze.

>>213965601 (OP)
>Did people really sold
Jose Arcadio Buendia...

every fucking rube was driving around with an unpainted bodykit on their civic. you wouldn't believe it was literally overnight

The car park near the theater was always hilarious around a big showing of a F&F movie.

>>213965601 (OP)
One of my friends in highschool had altezza tail lights on his civic. Another one bought an R32 GTS-T. The other guy is right though, it just popularized an already very existent trend

>>213965601 (OP)
>*mogs Domlet’s small man syndrome shitbox*

>>213965717
Lost to dom in a chevelle in the fourth movie. Skylines are shit.

>>213965617
while true to a degree, it was still a fairly niche scene. After the movie it was like night and day with all the retards and made it a million times worse.

>>213965717
why the fuck did they put muscle stripes on a jdm car

>>213965717
these are so tiny irl you wouldn't believe. i always thought like the size of c class mercedes but it's like a twingo with a big hood

>>213965601 (OP)
No. All it did was inspire teens with cheap Japanese cars as their first cars into thinking that they could own a "serious street machine."

>>213965632
I remember that. It was funny.

>>213965717
Japanese cars are high-geared for top speed, so all of their torque power is at the high end of the RPM gauge. American muscle cars are low-geared like trucks are, so all of their torque power is at the low side of the RPM gauge. So they launch better because of it. They don't have to wait to get up in speed before the car's power kicks in because that power is right there at launch. The advantage of the Japanese cars is power-to-weight ratios as well as better suspension.

>>213965784
American movie.

It was also peak time for Gran Turismo and Initial D.
I had an 87 camaro. It went to 230km/h which is as high as the spedometer went. Felt like it was ready to leave the ground at that point.

>>213965807
The AE86 had almost an identical gear ration to most american cars at the time.

>>213965797
They designed ricers around power-to-weight ratios like Porsche used to. 300 horsepower pushes a light car faster than it does a heavy car. The flaw is most of the time the engines were very small, so they could do that power, but due to the displacement they had no real torque, so they had no real balls to their driving. They didn't kick you in the chest and make you feel like you got shot out of a cannon like a big-block high-torque muscle car does.

>>213965717
KONICHIWA DUDE

>>213965797
Because the japanese don't weigh 400 pounds like most americans.

>>213965862
>most american cars at the time.
That's the flaw. American cars at the time had no power due to 1970s over-regulation still in effect. The only good American muscle car of the 80s is the Buick GNX, and it took a lot of Mclaren British engineering to make it right after Chevy fucked Buick by limiting it to a V-6 so only the Chevy Monte Carlo version of that platform body has a V-8 in it.

>>213965601 (OP)
I was 14 when it came out here in Australia.
the JDM sex spec car scene was already in full swing but pretty much overnight a whole new generation of retarded kids were all over it.

Pure times. Fun times. Faggots were putting neons on their Ford Lasers and chopping springs and buying the shittest fitting body kits imaginable and it was fun.

>>213965601 (OP)
>Did people really sold their muscle cars and bought honda civics?

Rice was the car equivalent of furries

No one respected it in the automotive scene

>>213966196
no, because it is just a funny little car made by some funny little people

>>213965797
Sure it wasn't a Miata you saw?

>>213965807
>Japanese cars are high.geared for top speed
All Japanese market cars are electronically limited to 180 km/h due to government regulations, why would they gear them for top speed if they literally can't go that fast?

>so all of their torque power is at the high end of the RPM gauge
Torque and power are different things. The gearbox has nothing to do with your 'RPM gauge' or your engine's powerband. American muscle cars tend to have flat powerbands because (especially circa 2001) they were mostly highly undersquare V8s with two-valve heads - they made lots of torque thanks to a long stroke but they literally couldn't rev that much due to friction and inertia. Contrast it with '90s Hondas and their oversquare engines with sky-high redlines and fancy four-valve variable timing heads. That's got nothing to do with gearing, if anything it was Japanese cars that tended to have shorter gears. Power-to-mass ratios also tended to be similar if you compared like for like, an LT1 Corvette had about the same hp/ton as a twin turbo Supra despite being much cheaper when new.

>>213966329
The foxbody says hi.

>>213965601 (OP)
No.
Just a bunch of kids tried to do burnouts.in the parking lot after movie but didn't know how.
MOSTLY kids that wanted to see a fun movie.1

>>213965601 (OP)
>be zoomer
>as a kid all the older teenagers bought cheap cars and riced the shit out of them
>couldnt wait to grow up and do it
>now an adult and all the cheap stereotypical lines now look too shitty at stock level to even bother spending any money on
I feel like the boy racer culture is coming to an end due to this, I didn’t know many in my teens and early 20s. One day when I am more financially secure and have money to piss down the drain, I will buy a 25 year old Honda Civic and put Skyline LARP mods on it to live out my childhood dream.

>>213965601 (OP)
>tfw car culture is DEAD cause ontop of modern cars looking, driving like shit and costing a million dollars, even 20 year old shitboxes are unattainable for middle class workers, let alone jobless teenagers
Where did it all go so wrong

>>213966466
Adequate for then, but shit now. Imagine having a 5.0 liter engine that only produced 225 HP today.

>>213966612
Around 07-08 when the cash for clunkers happened. Safety regulations started to be tightened too making manufacturers change the way cars had to be designed, pair that with dei hiring and we are where we're at now.

>>213966565
I want a Dodge Viper (and learn how to drive one of course)

>>213966466
Hello foxy!

>>213966565
Cars with RWD became extinct outside of "luxury" brands around 1980s/1990s, and even if you are looking at FWD shitboxes, they become bloated hard over the 2000s and 2010s.
Nothing really inspiring around.
The car manufacturers really like to tease a new sporty car or even a good looking EV, but then never follow through.
If they keep acting like faggots, I don't even care if Western car industry gets eaten by chinkshit.

>>213966673
Get a first-year one before the luxury car snobs ruined it by demanding luxury-car features like door handles. The first year of it is as raw as a sports car can get.

>>213966667
>cash for clunkers
That and the shit economy really raised the price on used cars.

>>213966660
>adequate
All other pony cars from that generation were making anemic numbers, the only exception was the trans am GTA trim with the turbo v6.

>>213965601 (OP)
cars were a hell of a lot cheaper 25 years ago

>>213965601 (OP)
The main appeal for me was to finally see the cars I had been driving in Gran Turismo in action. The only disappointing thing is that we had to wait until the second movie to get a Skyline R34.

>>213966707
If I could I'd get the 89 concept. Love how it looks.

>>213966742
More than you can afford, Pal. Cost of living crisis.

Here's your new eclipse bro.

>>213966667
100% this. Notice anything about this picture of the last UAW strike?

>>213966742
Yeah, but new cars were often financed at 10% - 15% compounding interest to where beats the fuck out of me as to how anyone paid one off.

On the bright side, a few hundred dollars could easily get you a decent runner.

I bought an Infiniti because it's the predecessor to the Skyline

>>213966926
Biden forced diversity everywhere he deemed to be white - the auto industry, avaition, truck drivers, etc. The diversity was hired on "equity," which means that they were NOT hired on skills and competence, but simply checkbox-diversity "equality."

And they make Raul and Jorge in the Mexican auto factories look like they build flawless perfect cars by comparison.

>>213965601 (OP)
My older brother was heavily influenced by these movie (got into the Need for Speed series, cars in general after seeing them).

>>213966949
Aren't the sedans autotragic only?

>>213965797
Skylines are much bigger than C Class retard

>>213966949
Cruelest joke to play, only start exporting Skylines to the West when they drop the straight 6.
Still, one of the nicer Nissan's

>>213966901
>>213966949
all cars will look the same. all buttons will be replaced by screens. all engines will be replaced with batteries, all tactile sensation will be removed from life. you will be a joyless tax paying drone

>>213965631
Latinos remember Fast and Furious. That's a jeet.

>>213967031
Yeah but the r35 is a pigfat bloated barge compared to the r34.

>>213967005
Nah, and the automatics come with a manual mode that uses an automatic clutch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quwRu4QuSjk

>>213967062
Nah I'll keep driving my 35 year old outdated shitbox until it can't drive no more.
It's currently in the shop for a misfire ;_;

>>213966457
>All Japanese market cars are electronically limited to 180 km/h due to government regulations, why would they gear them for top speed if they literally can't go that fast?
To be fair every car companybhas lied about this or made it easily disabled on cars they market as "fast as fuck boi"

>>213967085
STANCE, BRO!
The obsession with stance as well as how a car looks with 22" rims on it is why mdern car design is the way it is

>>213966740
Hell the corvette was so shitty back then they were gonna shitcan it. Engineers basically had to meet up off the books with a shoestring budget for thr C5

>>213965862
and these were econoboxes, not sports cars. Nips used them for race cars because they were cheap, had great weight balance, and you could easily replace the engine.

>>213967159
No, it's safety regulations. Cars are designed so when you hit shaniqua and her son after coming back from getting some crack from the local corner store they can sue you for being an ebil huwite boi.

>>213967167
The Corvette was nothing but a 2-seat muscle car up until the C7. When you understand that, you understand why Chevy didn't even try to compete against other sports cars until the C7.

>>213967167
350 tpi made more power than the 5.0 H.O. but the crossfire injection was always causing issues and the transmission in most GM cars were ass.

>>213967241
The corvette is a sports car, muscle cars died out in the 70's.

>>213965601 (OP)
>Did people really sold their muscle cars
no, you retard

did you not notice the Charger in the movie?

it certainly made rice rockets more popular though

>>213967263
More importantly it couldn't properly fit golf clubs in the trunk if I recall correctly

>>213965617
>people are loving modifying cars and driving them fast
>people demand movies about this popular activity everyone is loving
>REEEE HOLLYJEWS TRYING TO CASH IN ON THE CRAZE BY GIVING PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT REEEEE!!

>>213967285
2 seats don't make a sports car. It had the same shit leafspring suspension as a mucle car, so hard-cornering was dangerous. It had an engine that emphasized torque over high RPMs to get the wheels up to speed.

It's a proper sports car now, though. That Ferrari 458-inspired flatplane-crack engine making all the same noises as a Ferrari is so intoxicating.

>>213965848
>Initial D.
Man, that takes me back, even though I never watched, but I have a few friends at the time who absolutely loved that shit.

>>213967241
>The Corvette was nothing but a 2-seat muscle car up until the C7.

You dont know anything, retard

>>213966926
well in a way it was a good thing these bitches got this happen to them

>>213967502
And it could get its ass kicked by a teen in a Civic with $10k worth of tuning parts on the engine.

>>213967411
The corvette was the lighter than the camaro, monte carlo, nova and chevelle. Despite the leaf springs it still handled better them too. The corvette was also european inspired, it's a sports car through and through.

>>213967550
>And it could get its ass kicked by a teen in a Civic with $10k worth of tuning parts

lmao ya spend $10k to compete with a bone stock c5

you really are stupid

>>213967550
>smokes your japanese shitbox with bolt ons from advanced autoparts
Lol, lmao even.

>>213967619
>>213967651
>smokes your modernized 350 BBC with junkyard parts and a stripped out interior
GM cucks are still seething to this very day.

>>213965601 (OP)
>get in friend's sports car
>because you're a movie star in fast car movies friend drives overly fast and recklessly to impress you
>too nervous to tell him to slow the fuck down lest he call you a pussy wimp
>end up with your crispy charred corpse wrapped around a tree

>>213967814
The owner was a retard, the tires were old as fuck and porsche literally advised the owners to change tires frequently. They even took the GT back to the burkerking with new engineered tires and it set a new record. Proof that tires on a car really are everything.

>>213965632
>tfw friend had unpainted bodykit and lambo doors on a civic
the only thing we managed to stop him from doing was getting those rims that kept spinning when the car stopped

>>213966932
>a few hundred dollars could easily get you a decent runner.
Not here it can’t. I was just shopping for a car and I saw stuff like a 20 year old car with a blown transmission that couldn’t even run going for $4k.

>>213965601 (OP)
I think Need for Speed Underground was much bigger cause of this craze, for good reason
>Riders on the Stoooorm

>>213965757
Vin Diesel's wet fantasy, completely divorced from reality.

>>213965783
>After the movie it was like night and day with all the retards and made it a million times worse.

Fortunately, car tunning is self-correcting hobby, because it is one of the worst money sinks outside of gambling, and it came on the onset of modern cars that you cannot tinker with in any way.

>>213965797
>these are so tiny irl you wouldn't believe
But that is all of them. If you are over 6' then tough shit. I always loved Lotus Elize, until I tried it and had to crawl out of it on all fours.

>>213967031
Youre mon is much bigger then Mercedes C Class retard

>>213965601 (OP)
bruh that came out like 20 years after muscle cars

>>213967784
As much of a C5fag as I am that car has soul

Tuner culture/car culture is dead, spend money on a new car like a youre an idiot, if something special breaks youre spending thousands on a part you can only get at the manufacturer, most people just get shit box beaters that are cheap, easy to repair if something breaks, and can be thrown anyway if its too far gone

>>213970195
It's fucking depressing. My neighbor was commiserating with me over car prices just last week. He's looking for a first car for his daughter and it's so ungodly expensive now

>>213968167
>rims that kept spinning when the car stopped
But those are absolute kino. Why would you do that?

>>213969776
Loved that stupid game, but I thought it came out before F&F...

>>213970195
>something special breaks youre spending thousands on a part you can only get at the manufacturer, most people just get shit box beaters that are cheap, easy to repair

I just wanted to change battery in new Renault, there are SIX fucking different bolt types. WHY? Oh I know why - so that you have to change it in service for 10x the price.
Wanted to change brake pads, nope, piston tool was designed in a way that universal one cannot be used, want to change lightbulb, nope, had to take off part of engine cover.
I travel with large tool box like a dickhead.

>>213970445
That is what I meant, tunning craze was under way before F&F came out.

>>213970079
I hate the idea of living in a big city but this looks comfy.

>>213965601 (OP)
I just want you to know that literally 99% of people thought this was retarded as shit.
Either because street racing was gay or because ricer shit is cringe as fuck.

>>213965601 (OP)
Yes I did. I bought a ricer and used to drift in empty parking lots blasting techno. You have a problem with that?

>>213970573
Faggot

>>213965601 (OP)
We were already buying riceburners I got my first Civic an 80's POS in 1999, the car culture, the rise of PlayStation and anime and Asian media in general all blended together from 96-2002.
F&F 1 came out around the height of the scene and 9/11 was three months later which started the downturn on tuner culture.
I think it was always a west coast thing, out East it was always about SUVs down South every wanted vintage caddies, and millennial didn't start buying muscle cars until the garbage new body type Challengers and Cameros came out around the 1st Transformers movie

>>213965601 (OP)
Nobody young could afford muscle cars, so they bought Japanese cars. Plus American cars sold those days were absolute shit.

Everything Japanese/Asian peaked during that time.
>sushi
>ricers
>asian girls

Now it seems like we're going back to Americana stuff, look at the Sydney Sweeney ad.