Thread 213973944

Thoughts?

How can they will them back?

>>213973944 (OP)
Yeah we all know only women consume star wars nowadays yep

tiddies

>>213973944 (OP)
I'm never coming back. They can go fuck themselves. Force is female my ass.

>>213973944 (OP)
Move forward with the Rey trilogy, that will do it

>>213973944 (OP)
Fire Kathleen Kennedy
Fire Kevin Feige
Make Bob Iger beg for forgiveness on national television

Hey woke lefties….i told ya so

More women screaming would help.

Jason Statham as a Gray Jedi that avenges his Loth-wolf companion by tracking down and killing those responsible with his lightsaber for 90 minutes.

>>213974165
Okay!

>>213973944 (OP)
They could unfreeze Hitler and appoint him dinsey CEO and make ultra chud movies from now on and I'm still not watching Disney slop ever again

>>213973944 (OP)
Here are my non-negotiable demands in order for me to consoom Star Wars:
>all female characters in the Star Wars universe are played by conventionally attractive women
>there are no black people
>all women are topless or nude at all times
>no dialog between two women at any time

Guaranteed kino and easy 2 billy per movie if my demands are met.

>>213973944 (OP)
Scenes of brutal rape and torture involving Daisy Ridley, Brie Larson and Warwick Davis.

>>213973944 (OP)
Reduce the quantity and drastically increase the quality. Stick to the established canon.

>>213973944 (OP)
FUCK BRIE

>>213973944 (OP)
Erase the prequels from existence.

>>213973944 (OP)
>How can they will them back?
It's easy, attractive women as only cosmetic character, bad ass hero, hype,... The problem is, they destroyed all the good fondation they had so they are fucked. It's a shame because they had some very easy material to adapt like the x-wing books.

but I bet they won't be able to resist pushing some propaganda here and there.

Dudes just want to see males rising up to the challenge and defying the odds for victory. It's the easiest shit. Throw in a troupe of buddies with good chemistry. Don't have him shown by improbably by hyper capable female leads. They can be badass themselves, but not at the detriment of the hero. The movie's not about them. A good villain. High stakes. You don't need fights or explosions. Just confrontations, competition. Again, challenges to be overcome or explored. Not difficult.

>>213974587
>High stakes
I'm so tired of movies one upping each other about the stakes. World will be destroyed, universe will be destroyed, multiverse will be destroyed,... And all that time the menace is some vertical color beam. Some movies work well with personal stakes.

His name was Robert Paulson.

The issue is the people who are going to "try to win men back" are the same people that scared them away and you know it's going to be petty like they will put a stereotypical Andrew Tate in one of these movies since they think that is what men want.

>>213974716
They’ll fuck it up and make it good by accident. Like Soldier boy in The Boys

>>213973944 (OP)
but why? for all their evil, disney aren't stupid they knew from the very start they were pushing men away so it clearly wasn't about money
it makes no sense to do a turnaround now, did their ceo have a stroke or something?

>>213974788
The timing is not a coincidence. We are most likely in a recession so they are feeling the hurt.

>>213973944 (OP)
By hiring me as a consultant.
I am the guy for the job.

>>213974788
>they knew from the very start they were pushing men away
Maybe they thought that they could win men over with how good their female and urban characters were going to be. Or maybe they were delusional enough to think that they'd gain enough new alphabet-people fans so that the loss of males wouldn't matter.

>>213973944 (OP)
>Don't make me tap the sign

>>213973944 (OP)
Just sell them off and stick to your Disney princess/live action remake slop.

>>213973944 (OP)
Clickbait

>>213975017
>>Don't make me tap the sign
>le sign tap
Just like that time when WW3 started and we got drafted to fight Iran.

>>213974308
>>all women are topless or nude at all times

>>213973944 (OP)
sexy twileks
erotic squishy lekku

>>213973944 (OP)
Fire Kathleen Kennedy.
Fire Dave Filoni.
Apologize for scrapping the EU.
Apologize for character assassinating Luke Skywalker.

>>213974308
It's funny that they made all the women have no sex appeal and yet women to this day still like dressing up in the slave leia costume
Only ugly trannies think women should be ugly. They want society to reflect them

>>213975265
This is the entertainment business.
There are very few cases where apologizing is actually entertaining.
I don't think it'd be in Disney's best interest to backtrack.

>>213973944 (OP)
booba
it's that easy

Just don't make another Star Wars movie but instead make a new unique IP?

God forbid they put cute girls in their movies

>>213975376
They intentionally drove their predominantly straight white male audience away with the acquisition. If they want them back they're going to need to backpedal

>>213975017
Dude its just for money. Instead of pandering to blacks and gays they will pander to lonely white men and the retarded masses will go "wow based disney! Take my money!"

>>213973944 (OP)
>Marvel
You already know the answer.

get women like this and put them in twilek makeup

>>213975457
And that would be an actually good business decision if they did it.

>>213975470
also get some masculine men to play the main lead(s) instead of hollywood feminist soiboys

>>213974074
>>213974277
This. They made their intent blatant the past few years and we're supposed to pretend like we don't know better? Everything they say now is just lies. And that's actually even more insulting
>so I know we said we hate you
>and we don't even want your business
>and you could fuck right off if you didn't like how we do things
>but see the thing is we didn't think you actually would
>and it's really killing out bottom line
>so, like, we're cool now, right?
No. We are not cool

>>213975457
>>213975487
The days of the prequel multi media projects and star wars being an event are long gone. Disney is greedy and gatekeeps that experience to the parks. It also doesn't help that burgers are too poor for that.

>>213975450
They will need to pivot, but apologizing to the audience would be a bad move.

>>213973944 (OP)
>How can they will them back?
it'll be hard, they'll need to consult some elderly men in college classics and philosophy departments, in particular they need sincere Christians and nihilists, and explicitly not scientists, not rationalists and not atheists.

If there are political jokes you have to make it under the assumption the audience is expecting intentional derogatory misandry and bait and switch them by having an actually non hostile feminine woman that doesn't hate men and heterosexuality to surprise the audience.

Lastly your movie will have to ponder either on the messages of what to do in a time of disillusionment and institutional failure, probably pre-revolutionary authors describing the moment. In a near socialist revolution i'd be looking from inspiration from russian and german authors before their revolt.

>>213974134
>>213975265
Sell it back to George at 3/5 of the original price
Decanonize the Sequels
Recanonize the EU

>>213975650
>Recanonize the EU

>The Force Unleashed
>a Star Wars Legends story
>directed by Zack Snyder

>>213975633
No, they need to straight up apologize. Remember this failed attempt at making pre-prequel lore?

>>213973944 (OP)
star wars just isnt cool anymore. its more than making a guy movie, the whole setting is ruined. to start to get men back they would first need to actually make star wars worth watching for *anyone*

>order a burger
>they put shit on it to spite you because something something who knows reason
>you decide not to eat or pay for it
>ok ok how about we toss in a free fries and call it a "Man-Burger"???

still not going to pay for or eat a shit burger m8y

disney is literally spending its money and energy to try to convince my children to cut off their dicks and let men fuck them in the ass. they entered the world of politics and its no longer about just entertainment either. the are literally the last company i would want me children watching

>>213975765
Yea, it was bad, but not so bad I'd ask for an apology.
Apologies simply aren't entertaining.

I was never a starwars or superherofag so I was never the target audience, but their goose is cooked and they are not getting it back. Frankly I am not sure if there's ever been a case of having a real lock on a demographic audience, losing them, then winning them back. More likely is they have to accept that at least for another 10-20 years certain IPs are dead. You can resurrect old ones and make them a success - Michael Bay era transformers is/was huge in the third world and they didn't grow up on transformer cartoons. But plenty of other 80s IPs have not done so.

They may have fucked up and lost star wars' enduring presence in pop culture from the 80s to the mid 2010s (when started the decline), and now it has to join Planet of the Apes, Battlestar Galactica and other IPs that don't get an automatic financial win. Same Startrek or others.

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/dragon-age-creator-says-ea-execs-thought-bioware-fans-would-eat-whatever-slop-they-were-given-since-the-nerds-in-the-cave-would-always-show-up-for-an-rpg-because-it-was-an-rpg/

We underestimate how nepotistic and retarded post-success suits are. The guys who actually make the kingdom? They're big dick shit. Mr. Disney himself and all that. But it's the same way medieval kingdoms would have some amazing founder of the dynasty and then if they were lucky they'd get 1 or 2, maybe 4 if they are Rome and super lucky (not medieval you know what I mean), but overwhelmingly they'd just get dogshit executives who squander the success. Businesses are the same.

>>213973944 (OP)
>How can they will them back?
They should unironically hire non-westerners to write all their media for over a decade and let the american writers learn from their success. It can't be overstated that anime succeeds where western corporate liberal feminism has crashed and burned. There needs to be a show of humility and effort to adapt.

>>213975822
>star wars just isnt cool anymore.
If I were to be really blunt, I'd say Star Wars started to lose its edge by Return of the Jedi.
I say this as someone who genuinely loves all six of George's movies.
Star Wars was never going to be something that would hold eternal cultural sway.
George sold Disney a Lemon.

>>213973944 (OP)
Turns out calling men incels and manbabies but expecting them to pay for the privilege of watching Star Wars and the MCU aren't sound business decisions.

>>213975897
yeah we know. too many people forget that the prequals were supposed to Make Star Wars Great AgainTM

>>213975897
The prequels were pretty big at the time dude, people still enjoy the secondary media that came out of that era too.

People were just kind of over the clone wars/kiddie focused stuff by the time Disney bought it.

>>213975470
twilek makeup would be better than that face... yuck like a rat with downs

>>213973944 (OP)
Is this true or is it on some site called The Western Preserver or something

>>213973944 (OP)
The story is done, I don't care. It was done in 2005. I never liked the EU, all this shit is slop and I'm not interested. Especially now that the old cast is too old or dead

>>213975822
>make star wars worth watching for *anyone*
You can't approach this from a generalized "anyone and everyone" sense because you'll just end up with a feminized franchise again. There are constant internal and external forces pushing and pulling every aspect of the creative process to that singular outcome.

>>213973944 (OP)
Well, the answer is obvious. Just hire some consulting firm like Bridge something something. I'm sure they/them have the answer. #blm

>>213975980
she's not that bad anon

>>213976038
no i mean make a good movie. thats totally different than making a focus group movie

>>213975822

People lost sight of Michael Jordans' smarts on the subject and I like that he still sticks to his guns:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29130478/michael-jordan-stands-firm-republicans-buy-sneakers-too-quote-says-was-made-jest
>"It's never going to be enough for everybody, and I know that," he said. "I realize that. Because everybody has a preconceived idea for what I should do and what I shouldn't do.
>"The way I go about my life is I set examples. If it inspires you? Great, I will continue to do that. If it doesn't? Then maybe I'm not the person you should be following."
This also applies the other way. You're not going to lose people if you piss off the 'everything is political everything must be activist' types, but you will if you lean too hard on own the libs.

>>213975896
I'd say hire non americans. Again a /v/ example, again I didn't play it, but people seem to love that Disco Elysium shit even when they don't like communism. I have experience with another game where when they hired American voice actors it turned to an unmitigated fucking DISASTER. I legitimately trust a European socialist to write a better story than an American center-left person because it's an intrinsically american faggotry. At least some dialectic navel gazing has something intellectual for you to engage with even if you are engaging with it as an adversary/disagreeing. Progressive morality play shit is nothing but a clap along because you're being given a nursery rhyme to soothe yourself to sleep.

>>213975897
It had a run among the best in pop culture. 1980 to 2010s, let's just round it to 2020 and you get 40 years. You have to go back to the Western -genre- to find something with a similar enduring broad-based appeal.

>>213975976
>The prequels were pretty big at the time dude
Sure, but George is a savvy businessman.
I think he sold Star Wars when he knew he wouldn't be able to repeat his successes a third time with his own planned sequel trilogy.

>>213976038
Star Wars had so much mass appeal in 1977 when it came out in an era of bleak and depressing movies.

Disney decided to make a nihilistic subversive trilogy of movies focused around "letting the past die" while still aping off of its imagery.

Same thing with Rings of Power. The people in charge dont understand what made their product enjoyable by a large demographic.

>>213975720
>Recanonize the EU

>>213974308
Nintendo, hire this man!

Reboot John Carter with a faithful adaptation of the princess of Mars.

>>213973944 (OP)
they need to bring in a superheroine with sex appeal. the Black Widow movie was way too tame, they should have gone into the sexual side of the red room women. they skipped captain marvel's hot costumes, if they put brie in them now it wouldn't feel right and she's too old/doesn't have the body for it. there's ZERO hot female superheroes right now.

pic related does whore roles, even though the female hawkeye isn't a hot character in the comics they should turn her into one so they can show off hailee

>>213973944 (OP)
StarWars™ is becoming a hot potato, imagine when no director or actors want to be involved with it, that's funny.

>>213973944 (OP)
Remember, they are not doing anti-male products. You are an incel conspiranoid chud. Just because now they are thinking about maybe NOT doing anti-male products doesnt mean they spend a decade doing anti-male products.

Disney really should hire me. I think I might have been born to help them.
Hire me fast because my health is bad.

>>213976161
forgot pic

Cast them plus Brie Larson in male-dominated genres.

>>213976170
>Remember, they are not doing anti-male products. You are an incel conspiranoid chud. Just because now they are thinking about maybe NOT doing anti-male products doesnt mean they spend a decade doing anti-male products.
>>213973944 (OP)

havent watched any of the yidsney movies but is there a single white male hero in any of them? they went out of their way to make sure they didnt show any white guys in a positive light?

>>213976171
Tell us about your health, that's way more interesting than Disney's slop.

>>213973944 (OP)
Boats. The time has come for boats.

>>213973944 (OP)
what's the point? I thought women were the ultimate consooomers

>>213976197
there are way more than four these days

i find it hard to care about scifi nowadays because of how it's been destroyed but i'm really into sword and sorcery so if they made that with a star wars skin i'd watch it

>>213973944 (OP)
I moved on and found new hobbies. I like Drake and smoking weed now
They didn’t want me around anymore, but the feeling is still mutual for me

>>213973944 (OP)
Someone post the contents of this article...?
What did they say that led you to believe this?
No one could be more transparent than Bud Light and of course the frat boy and union labor idiots went right back to their shitty product once they got Shane Willis and post Malone to do commercials for them about it totally not being for trannies or fags

>>213976342
>I like Drake and smoking weed now

they should probably put a trigger warning in front of the clone wars now that clanker is as bad as nigger

>>213976075
>even when they don't like communism
Americans love communism, if you describe socialism part by part and use the word "working class" they agree with literally all of it. Many just don't like the word "socialist" but even then 6 out of 10 Americans find being a socialist something that would make them more approving of a political candidate. However that doesn't quite work as well systematically in America because of the geographic distribution of the electoral college. The popular vote is dominated by coastal cities, but the actual elections are dominated by suburbs. The real issue is the center liberals cultivated "woke" issues to procrastinate and obscure the obvious class problems occuring until it basically caught fire. 5 years ago, no matter how specitically i searched, I could not look up wealth and income inequality in reference to class, it would always be entirely about racial and gender inequality no matter what you said. Now you can find income and wealth inequality discussions happening all over.

Case and point:
https://youtu.be/ORWM0ukT-Xw?si=qx7iqEahI6Bk_4y5

Now we have a legitimate communist revolution bubbling in america in the republican party and the actual communist socialists groups are venal and distasteful because it's just been filled with these manhating fags and trannies that never worked a day job.

>>213976293
>i find it hard to care about scifi nowadays because of how it's been destroyed but i'm really into sword and sorcery so if they made that with a star wars skin i'd watch it

same. i even got pushed out of 40k and i used to be a huge fan and Dune is gay as shit now too. there is no sci-fi left. i just stick to old fantasy

>>213975457
>Dude it's for money!
>They've been leaving billions on the table and still want to serve you niggers and women protagonists

C'mon now

Why did men never warm up to troons and girlbosses in the MCU and Star Wars?

>>213976256
Forgot her and she will lead the newStar Wars trilogy.

How do studios not know that women don't like other women? Women want to see men do cool shit just like men do.

>>213976386
The personality that comes with it gets better results with women.
Marvel has been shit for 6 years and I needed to pick something new to be into

>>213976602
nta but drake? really?

>>213973944 (OP)
That ship has sailed. The kind of male consoomers who they'd like to milk the most have migrated to tiddy gachas and vtubers and shit like that. There's no way in hell they''ll ever go back to Disney slop, even if Disney was actually committed to pander to straight male interests, which they are not. The only men Disney can reasonably expect to show up at the theaters now are those who are willing to suffer through a feature length garbage fire for the sake of the girlfriends who dragged them there. And that's a shrinking demographic too, given that the average American man is now lonelier than ever before.

>>213976250
They just latch onto the current thing. Most women at bi-mon-sci-fi cons are there because cosplay is the current thing for them, they'll move onto the next thing and forget all about it. Very few of them buy all the films on VHS, DVD, Bluray, UHD Bluray, then also buy the special editions and box sets, plus all the merchandise.

I won't accept anything less than them wearing "The Force Is Male" tshirts like they did "The Force is Female"
Make sure women know they aren't welcome and rub their faces into it like they did to me

>>213973944 (OP)
I once read a study that when young boys play with toys, they imagine themselves being the toy (batman, etc)
While when young girls play with toys, they imagine the toy being them (batman goes shopping, tries on dresses, etc)

What's happened to Star Wars and Marvel under female leadership is pretty much a perfect example
Women cannot imagine themselves being another character, or even understand how boys WANT to imagine themselves being other characters
So they force in all the shit they want, girlbosses, fem-power, etc, even if it doesn't fit the story or heroes at all

They tried to win women. But women don't really like this kind of thing.

>>213976439
>I'm a contrarian and let everyone else dictate my taste
I didn't like the DUNC movies that much (outside of a few scenes), and with how he ended the second movie makes me wonder just how much of a mess messiah will be. Which is a shame because Messiah is the one I like the most when I re-read them. Dune Messiah was going to be the original book, but as herbert was writing it the back story, establishment of the setting and characters got away from him so much he realized Dune was the logical place to start the story.
Its short, sweet, tight, deals with a lot of metaphysical shit without getting too lost up its own ass, expands on the original story and introduces the tleilaxu who are the most criminally slept upon faction in all of sci-fi. They're just such despicable magnificent bastards who have a really cool evolution through the books happening just in the background without much direct spotlight on it.
But just because new people like the movies doesn't change the fact that the books exist. If you're a real dune fan, you know your true ire should be heaped upon Brian Herbert and KJA.

>>213976651
He just doesn't miss.

>>213973989
They’re also admitting they failed to attract the female audience

Realistically what could they do? Remake A New Hope for the millionth time? Turn it into a gritty adult/war movie like they tried with Rogue One? The Wacky Adventures of [insert side character]? Rome/GoT In Spaaaace?

>>213974326
Considering what Disney did with the D+ willow series I think Warwick was already raped enough

>>213974308
>no dialog between two women at any time

how would they film the lesbian scenes?

>>213975457
>Dude its just for money
I would understand if you thought this back like ten years ago, but it's time to wake up and smell the roses at this point little bro

>>213976750
not reading your whole post because i have no idea what your nigger retarded greentext is supposed to mean.

i dont pay for things or use my time on things i dont like. ive read all six dune books and loved them. no desire to watch niggerfied brown and grey modern slop dunc. if its bad its bad. if it was good i would watch it. i think some of the only decent movies that have been made in more than a decade are sicario and the new bladerunner, both made by the same director of dunc.

>>213975016
It’s the same assumption with every attempt to expand the audience. They assume the existent audience will stick around.

>>213976808
what do you mean? i've been watching porn on mute for 20 years and it's fine, just don't give them any lines

>>213973944 (OP)
Whatever lie they come up with I hope no men fall for the shit because they will kick you in the balls as they stuff your money in their pocket and laugh in your idiot face. They cannot even honestly admit what they chose to do only that it must have been something than white men misunderstood. More victim blaming, they still believe men are stupid and love being told that but they need to use different language.

>>213976795
Ditch everything to do with the multiverse and make the next phase heavily inspired by Phillip K Dick. Have movies like Total Recall, Blade Runner, Minority Report, Alien, etc.
This genre of sci-fi is incredibly deep and fascinating. Make the next villain someone like David from Prometheus

>>213976233
I haven't actually read Bataille, but I've seen something from him about the need to expend excess energy. When one has an overabundance of life, that energy must be expended, will be expended, even at the cost of the organism's own health.
I should say no more.

>>213975457
>Instead of pandering to blacks and gays they will pander to lonely white men
Is that a bad thing?

>>213974788
>they knew from the very start they were pushing men away
No, the whole thing was that they thought the male audience was so secured and ingrained in the brand that it would be impossible to lose them, so they could fuck around and pump out low effort slop female power fantasies because men would watch no matter what. Or so they thought.

>>213973944 (OP)
They really think that the properties are the problem and not the content of the films. "I guess guys just don't like sci-fi and comic books anymore", shocking lack of self-awareness.

>>213975650
>>213975720
I'd rather had the shitty sequel trilogy than the Vong and NJO trash.

>>213976227
The funniest was dr strange.
>competent white male
>actually he’s a buffoon
>and also a cuckold

>>213977040
kek probably true, i've been seeing that with books and reading in general quite a bit already

>>213977063
don't care about Vong personally i just want Kyle going on space adventures

>>213977040
>Guys still like sports
>Great! Let's make a movie where a forty-year-old woman beats them all at basketball
>And she's ugly
>Yes! It's everything men could ever want!

>>213977159
literally me would have made a good kyle

>>213976981
>they thought the male audience was so secured and ingrained in the brand that it would be impossible to lose them
nerd cave theory

>>213976795
Maybe if they found a way to travel back in time to prevent Mando from going to shit, they could still retain some leftover male audience. But the fact that after Mando garnered unexpected success, they immediately turned that series into yet another girlboss circlejerk tells you all about how realistic it is for them to change their ways. They just can't help themselves.

Disney is a company ruled by Jews and DEI hires. These people don't WANT to produce stuff for men in the first place. When they did it on accident, they shat all over it to make sure men won't like it anymore. That's the state of Disney.

>>213975881
>Frankly I am not sure if there's ever been a case of having a real lock on a demographic audience, losing them, then winning them back.
I would say Prometheus infused the alien franchise of new life and kickstarted a fanbase renewal

>>213973944 (OP)
Anyone with a brain can tell you the problem isn't because "they made movies for [boogeyman] and not me personally!" or any other reactionary kneejerk response.
Its a problem with the current business model of the big studios. They don't make their money on the back end, they make they're money by getting investors to give you money to make the movie. The studio pays itself most of that money, and spends a fraction to actually make the movie.
Once capeshit started hitting billion dollar box office returns they could start going to investors for MORE money.
The problem is when you get greedy, and you stop making low and mid budget movies, and focus only on shit with HALF BILLION DOLLAR BUDGETS! then you're going to loose your fucking ass.
Its just math. If your movie costs an absurd amount, how many people need to see it before you break even? The bigger the budget the more people you need, until eventually you're in a position where you need most of the human beings alive to go to the movie theater to see your movie in the theater, or buy it on streaming, or blu ray, or whatever.
What is about to happen to the big studios is the same thing that happened before. Enough big high profile flops will cause the big studios to sink, or heavily downsize. People will still want to see movies, and you'll have a generation of film makers who are working in a new landscape with modest budgets telling stories someone wants to tell. Some of them will do really well, because it finds an audience, and you'll have the studios willing to take modest risks on film makers because the whole farm isn't riding on it, and they only need one of those to be a hit to finance the other four movies that didn't hit as big.

>>213974788
>disney aren't stupid they knew from the very start they were pushing men away
They didn't.


> So says David Gaider, creator of the Dragon Age setting and BioWare veteran, in a recent chat with GamesRadar. Per Gaider, EA bosses used to refer to RPG stalwarts as living "in the cave." That'd be the nerd cave, you see, where the nerds lived. "You made an RPG and the nerds in the cave would always show up for an RPG, because it was an RPG."

>With EA bosses convinced that the nerd cave would spill out its denizens to any game with BioWare on the box, their philosophy became that "You didn't have to try and appeal to them. You had to worry about the people who weren't in the cave, which was the audience we actually wanted, which was much larger."

They've thought men would stay and eat any slop, but by shitting on men they would gain an additional demographic. The thought of men leaving did not even cross their minds, because they are retarded.

>>213973989
It's the same with formerly masculine video games. Shit's so retarded.

The primary audience for Star Wars nowadays consists of low-t men and children whose parents are too lazy to find anything good to put on.

>>213976250
Women are the biggest consumers but only in that they buy:
>clothes, shoes, and accessories
>makeup, stickers, jewelry
>daily coffee and wine
>all sorts of pet stuff
>knicknacks and kitschy decorations (TJ Maxx and Marshalls are like women's Mecca)

And they buy all this stuff frequently and repeatedly, most of which will not be sold off but thrown away or donated. All of which is very expensive. Women will also go into debt just to buy the latest fashion trends.

The reason companies after 2011 started trying to draw normie women into buying geek IP was because they wanted female normie consumers to purchase geek IP due to how much money it was making. If Tommy likes Star Wars/Marvel and spends a lot on the IP, they could get even MORE money if they got his mom and sister to like the IP.
The problem is that normie women don't really like men's geeky IP because it usually doesn't primarily revolve around what normie women usually prefer to see (romance, drama, thriller, horror). Normie women only like men's IP when it is about genres that both demographics love (horror, thriller, action-adventure, etc).

The logical thing would be to make the MCU and SW revolve more around straight romance/drama, maybe make it a bit more scary. All they needed to do was that and it would have worked, but they DIDN'T DO THAT. Instead, they assumed women would show up in droves if they just introduced more female heroes who might as well be annoying or emotionally hollow men with boobs slapped on. And on top of that, they began carrying an anti-male sentiment while emasculating/feminizing the men, removing sex appeal for men, and just not being fun.

>>213977170
Women, especially younger women have this complete lack of understanding of the things we have. They don't understand that it was all made by men often requiring blood, sweat and tears. Star Wars didn't spring up out of a hole in the ground. It was made by a team of (mostly) men and it was marketed and it took years of young white men buying and spreading it for it to become entrenched in popular culture. But women think Star Wars being popular and profitable just...is. The same way they think there will always be trucks on the road, gas in the pumps and food in the supermarket. Things just happen and there will always be men buying the things they meddle in (aka the audience/fans) so of course they can take something like a sports movie and make it about a fat woman who hates men because it's going to succeed. It's like the sun rising, why wouldn't it? And then it doesn't and like the children they are they just scratch their heads and hit it hoping that'll make it work like when daddy fixed it.

>>213975457
>its just for money. Instead of pandering to blacks and gays they will pander to lonely white men
Business "pandering" to its main target audience so it can earn money. The horror.

return of the jedi came out in the mid 80's.
the phantom menace came out in 1999.
that was 29 years.
the revenge of the sith came out in 2005
the force awakens came out in 2015.
thats ten years.
now we just have an endless stream of star wars.
the hype built between return of the jedi and the phantom menace carried the franchise.
the hype between revenge of the sith and force awakens caused a let down.

these movies are also movies for children.
its a sad state of afairs when they depend on manchildren to keep the IP aploat instead of children and their parents buying them toys and shit.

star wars sold out.
its more obvoius that its a cash grab instead of something else. maybe im on 4chan just too much, and just read about the movie business than watching movies now.

>>213977252
The girlboss crap wasn’t even the worst part. It was them jamming in cgi luke, orange rosario dawson, and other mainline characters in what was appealing because it was showing off how much bigger the universe was than just the skywalkers, then burying season 3.5 in boba fett

>>213973944 (OP)
>Ryan Gosling is revealed as Luke's son
>He takes the lead role, Rey is written out
>He rebuilds the order, specifically referring to it as Luke's vision

Me and the bros will be viewing badass action flicks and making out where we're wanted shitters

>>213977266
Lindelof it’s too early for you to be this drunk

>>213973944 (OP)
But why?
There are plenty of women to fund them

>>213973944 (OP)
The real question is why now? They 've been doing it for a decade. They kept losing billions after billions, flop after flop and never changed course. What changed is Netanyahoo made a speech about losing gen Z. Gotta indoctrinate them into being good goys.

>>213977339
the only kids that are watching star ones are the few soiboys who have kids and force them to watch. what does star wars shit even come on? D+? i literally dont even know. do they still have shows on stuff like cartoon network?

i dont even think my kids could watch star wars even if they wanted to. plus i dont think they know what it is. i got my son a 50+% off big darth vader that i saw in the clearance section and he thought it was robot batman and i didnt bother explaining what it was supposed to be

Star Wars is supposed to be something mothers can take their daughters to. It's not a boys' club.

>>213977351
This connects to critical race theory, where the core assumption is civilization is a given and will always exist.

>>213977239
The nerds in the nerd cave would show up to anything. They showed up for the thing Disney has been selling. They only stopped showing up when it became the only thing Disney sold. If it was one part of the overall nerd slop with other things, the nerds would show up for it.

>>213976506
>that ss
hahaha knew it
I didn’t even look up anything about ironheart, just assumed it wasn’t for me.

women are gay

>>213976795
It's not really that hard

>hire the guys who wrote the most popular EU content
>instead of trying to "fix" their work to make it more modern / diverse / female-focused, just leave them the fuck alone
>profit

>>213977252
Yeah it's like shitty sports franchises that just stay bad forever because either they always hire the wrong people or no one competent actually wants the job after a while. If the problems are systemic and linger for years, its because management is terrible

>>213976981
Hollywood thought by pandering to women and portraying men as weak incompetent cucks they will attract keep men and attract additional female audience.
IRL men stopped seeing woke girlboss trash like the Marvels and Acolyte and women never started watching male-dominated genres. The MCUls three box office flops this year were hilarious.

>>213977274
No, this really is simply about target audience. Stop diffusing the blame away to greed or capitalism. Things an individual conveniently has no grasp on.

let me get this gay:
straight men like women
but they don't like women in their media
this amounts to a -massive- cognitive dissonance

>>213974308
>>there are no black people
Hot black women are allowed and encouraged

>>213977351
A lot of women don't get that it's easier for women to get into men's media because men generally like women sharing their interests (as long as they don't feminize/emasculate things), but women absolutely HATE men being involved in their media. And other men will bully men for it as well to remain in the good graces of women.

Whenever men show interest in women's IP, they get mocked or derided by women and men as either gay and effeminate, predatory and dishonest, or creepy and pedophillic. Just look at the colorful horse show.

>>213977454
But SW isn't something mothers take their daughters to in the first place. It's all based on pulp fiction that was overwhelmingly male as shit. Maybe if SW was focusing more on romance like The Princess Bride or Stardust, that would be fine, but the people in charge of SW don't WANT to actually make things for women. They just want to continue making things for boys while actively hating boys and not making things that women want to see.

If Disney actually gave a shit about women, they'd make a new SW series and pull from media that has struck it big with women as influences. K-Pop Demon Hunters, Magical Girl anime, 2000s action-thrillers with female protags, horror films, Twilight, Buffy, Dracula, and the vampire craze. Disney movies, etc.

Imagine a Star Wars movie where the main character is an ordinary girl who gets snatched away from her friends by a mysterious and brooding Dark Side user who lives in a spooky castle. Her friends are all female Jedi and embark on a quest to save her from her captor. Meanwhile, our leading lady grows closer with this mysterious villain, discovering that he's actually not so bad.

>>213977063
Blows my mind how many tasteless retards still shit on NJO even today.

>>213977159
Yeah Katarn is cool but I'm willing to sacrifice him to clear out the SWEU which is mostly trash.
>>213977185
Jason Court sounds like a good chap.

I have good things to offer here.
I have my own stories which I am writing, I have the knowledge of markets Disney and the masses at large overlook (or rather an alternative perspective on the market that no one considers - which I know is very profitable - I can point to real examples), I have developed a potent personal philosophy, and I have studied the occult and magick.
I understand the desires of the "young males" market, and I have made great efforts to understand the other side. I can understand the desire from the top for DEI, Feminism, Marxism, and everything the masses seem allergic to.
I see a golden middle path. I understand we are in a new Aeon and should move forward, not back.
I could help Disney, maybe even in a way that would make most people happy, if only for a single cultural moment. Most parties involved satisfied.

The odds that I will be able or allowed to help are so low.
I'm so depressed.

Why are men so afraid of strong female characters?

>>213977434
Probably because they don't want to admit all their recent gay pandering over the past decade is scaring away the few people in our generation with their shit together that have children and who can also afford to go to their parks, which is their real moneymaker.

There is no future consumer market for these products once the childless left leaning millennials age out.

>>213977613
Easy. They don't like women who look or act like men in their media.

>>213973944 (OP)
>How can they will them back?
They literally just need to bring back Luke and treat him with respect. Kathleen refuses to do that though no matter what. Remember she was apparently fuming when he returned in the Mandalorian.
So yeah, the franchise can crash and burn and they can spend the next decade pretending to be prepared to do 'anything' to fix it but everyone's moved on. Between Dunc and Rebel Moon, Star Wars is completely dead now.

>>213977613
Read The Right Way to Make Jump. The reason men don't like more women involved in creating men's media is because women have a tendency to be anti-male and/or neglect what actually appeals to men in favor of normie women (but not the geeky women who already like the male IP). This results in the alienation of both men and women enjoying the IP.

>>213977691
Because "strong female characters" aren't really female characters, strong, or characters at all. You just took a male character, removed all of his depth/vulnerablity/intrigue/coolness, made him annoying, and then slapped boobs on him and called it a day.

>>213977252
The story team is pretty well entrenched in Lucasfilm thanks to KK and George. Anything good which comes out of the studio comes from a contractor like Favreau and Gilroy, and even they eventually succumb as the story team demands to get their fingers in the pie. If you've ever worked in corporate environments with these mostly 30+ women treating work as extended daycare, you know nothing visionary or interesting ever comes out the other end of their longhoused whiteboard brainstorming sessions. The emphasis is on social harmony and making sure everyone feels included, not results.

High Republic only exists because the story team had to do something to justify their paychecks when Mando fever was at its height.

This means Lucasfilm is inherently incapable of course correcting since they'd need to fire basically everyone. Corporations, by their very nature, cannot do this. Especially since it'd open them up to class action lawsuits and the state of California would rip them a new asshole because Lucasfilm is basically preaching California's state religion. Only Twitter/X pulled it off and that's only because Elon was rich as fuck and willing to take an enormous loss for an emotional payoff.

>>213976808
Hot and well-endowed damsels in distress in various stages of undress are fine.
Hot and well-endowed lesbian damsels in distress in various stages of undress who start fighting for a protagonist are fine.

>>213977691
They aren't. They just don't like shit female characters, strong or otherwise.

>>213977625
>Imagine a Star Wars movie where the main character is an ordinary girl who gets snatched away from her friends by a mysterious and brooding Dark Side user who lives in a spooky castle. Her friends are all female Jedi and embark on a quest to save her from her captor. Meanwhile, our leading lady grows closer with this mysterious villain, discovering that he's actually not so bad.

This would work so well it would be insane, and it would even get a nice big male audience on top of it. The only problem is that this would be made to the exclusion of other male-oriented stories, and the nerds have stopped eating it up when it's the only thing on the menu.

But legit that sounds like a great premise for a Star Wars story. We haven't seen enough of the spookier side of the Force and the Dark Side.

>>213976506
It's always struck me as so weird that trannies are caricatures of women and deeply offensive to women, but yet it's predominantly men who dislike them while women are mostly fine with them.
I'm sure you can posit some sexist broscience theory based on trannies being weaker than men and women liking when men demean themselves or something, but there's no way that the majority of women actually feel that way.
Interesting.

>>213977577
the post-ROTJ era practically write itself. You could've done so much with the Imperial splinter warlord factions, even if you didn't rip off the Thrawn trilogy directly.

The Imperials still had thousands and thousands of star destroyers, millions of storm troopers and trained career officers and moffs who would carve out their own spheres of influence.

The New Republic would have to struggle with deindoctrinating an entire generation who grew up with imperial propaganda, who thought that life wasn't so bad. What would denazification look like on a galactic scale while also having to fight dozens of wars against imperial remnants also fighting amongst themselves?

So much political commentary you could do alone with that. But these people can't think beyond Rebels = Good Empire = Bad

>>213977691
Men bring home the bacon. If a woman can bring home her own bacon, the man is useless, and may be eaten after copulation the way female spiders do. That's what they're really afraid of.

>>213977625
Disney already had the female market by the balls with their princess crap. SW/Marvel was a license to print money for boys.

>>213976412
Americans like community and collectivism, they'd just prefer that it be completely voluntary. Why else do you think baseball is considered THE American sport?

>>213975650
>Recanonize the EU
Cutting the EU was the only good decision Disney made for Star Wars and it was downhill from there.

>>213973944 (OP)
who the fuck is matt mcgloin and why did you repost his article? from where lol?
fucking n-word

>>213977613
2 separate things have been happening.
1. A bunch of basement-dwelling misogynists have been screeching every day about how women ruin everything.
2. A bunch of menopausal misandrist cat-ladies have infiltrated a lot of hollywood and injected their bullshit into everything they can.

This has blurred the lines.
So you're not allowed attractive black women in mainstream films because that would trigger the white cat-ladies, for example. Likewise, female nudity is only allowed if it's directed by a woman and preferably if the actress is over 40. Male nudity is encouraged though. Disliking this is sexist.
But on the other hand, when you do get well-written female characters with decent actresses, the chuds will screech regardless and claim the above is taking place because she's a woman. There's no satisfying them. And they will piss and shit over anyone trying to voice a reasonable take. So Anora is woke girlboss trash and star wars is bad because Rey is female and nothing to do with the terrible writing, for example.
This results in the same binary system as everything else where there's no moderation or nuance. You either hate women in media or love them.

>>213977691
Can you give an example of one that we're afraid of?

>>213977671
>I understand we are in a new Aeon

More Aeon Flux when?

>>213973944 (OP)
scrambling to win them back, so they can once again shove garbage down their eyes

>>213977965
Rey. The constant bellyaching over her from was funny back in the day. Oh wow, a competent female character. How shocking.

>>213977801
Right? The male love interest/"villain" would be like a Sith Dracula, specifically the novel version where he went to a magic academy run by Satan. But he could be like Edward from Twilight or Alucard from Hellsing where he's SPOOKY and VIOLENT but very caring on the inside. His fight scenes are all just anime shit set to gothic instrumentals or something.

>the girls have to go through a bunch of lesser Sith Lords, corrupt institutional figures, pirates, slavers, mobsters, monsters made by dark side magic, etc
>meanwhile their friend is busy going through some beauty and the beast shit with her new boyfriend who's belting out some song that sounds like Frollo's from Notre Dame

>>213977808
Rowling, Maya Forstater and other women who got the UK Supreme Court to change the law back on the basis of sex and biological women are clearly men or don't care about troons.

>>213977577
>>213977627
EU trash SUCKED DICK and was worse than the sequel trilogy. The Vong were atrocious as was Zahn's trilogy.

Star Wars, after the initial trilogy, was set up in a massive potential develop galaxy full of stories, but everything went back to rehashing the Sith, or some galactic threat. You don't need to have pluck heros saving the galaxy from the bad guys at this point, you could have dozens or hundreds of stories at smaller scale which are just as meaningful and full of drama, action, love, tragedy, humor and conflict.

But no, we have to have our same plucky heros save the galaxy from a threat, again. Because they did that before, so that's what we want because we're all fucking stupid ass brainlets.

>>213978001
And yet, look who hates Rey the most. Women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYkAgLQ_0eU

>>213977903
>they'd just prefer that it be completely voluntary.
Anon, you're describing anarchism.

>>213977625
>If Disney actually gave a shit about women, they'd make a new SW series
No. Enough with the neverending concessions when it comes to male entertainment.

>>213977893
>SW/Marvel was a license to print money for boys.
and yet they managed to ruin that as well. I tell you, the problem is not the company. The problem is the people running the company. People today are much less intelligent than when the Walt Disney Company rose to power. The people at the reins of said company are squandering the riches that that man single-handedly nurtured.

>>213978011
The majority of women. Rowling is very clearly an outlier and has received a lot of backlash for it.
Or perhaps what's really happening is that men are more comfortable with vocally admitting their dislike for troons while women are less so? I suppose that could explain it, the psyche differences between men and women, with men being more confident in voicing opinions deemed 'unacceptable/weird'.

do—nothing—win is too powerfull, it's game changer

>>213973944 (OP)
I have an idea on how to bring back the male audience in droves.

>>213978035
Yes.
A collective where the individuals do not participate voluntarily will never work as a commune or collective, because it will always need an artificial control group to maintain order if the individual members of the collective are not participating of their own volition. This is what fucking commies, even utopian ones, never seem to fucking grasp, and why imposing communisim and collectivism via the state will ALWAYS fail.

>>213977961
Good post but no one cares.

>>213977967
As cool as Aeon Flux is, in the current market, I think people would receive it as more girlboss shit and reject it off hand.

>>213977239
i would think rpg gamers are one of the most discerning of gamer
especially when you water down rpg mechanics
did they miss the ff13 shitstorm?

>>213978129
She would most likely be sexless and ugly, so everyone would reject it.

>>213978108
That's not bait and he's not wrong.

>>213976506
The general population was fine with trans women in 90s and early 2000s media because the LGBT community held themselves to a standard of conforming with the mainstream culture. If a man identified as a women, then he did his best to properly act like a woman and be mature and professional about it. Same shit applied to drag queens.

Trying to get contemporary trans women or drag queens to act like fucking adults or civil people is impossible now because the expectation is that everyone in the LGBT community acts like a big baby.

>>213978116
I rather enjoyed it. It was an astute summation.

>>213978105
there are no fully voluntary communes, tribes or even families
you work or you die and if you're not a part of the collective you're out on your ass
there was always a father, chieftain or warlord keeping the peace with violence
where exactly are you supposed to find these voluntary communists who don't need any control group to compel them to actually work and share equally?

>>213978167
People have trouble separating the decanonisation of the eu from disney's new canon.
So the argument is that the eu was much better than disney's crap, completely ignoring that bother were absolute shit. And then someone will respond to this talking about how great Heir to the Empire is, completely ignoring shit like Luuke

>>213976244
I have been wanting Boats In Space for a long fucking time. Everything space just looks to do something else even if you can superficially claim that it does the things that Boats does.

>>213978214
>where exactly are you supposed to find these voluntary communists who don't need any control group to compel them to actually work and share equally?
That’s exactly his point.

>>213978245
>>213976244
Women will never understand the appeal of boats

>>213975650
>Sell it back to George at 3/5 of the original price
Here is your George Lucas Star Wars. Enjoy.

>>213973944 (OP)
Why not just hire one of the billion attractive women out there? I'm not sure if it's a today thing or I'm just starting to notice but I can see girls like this >>213975470 by just walking my dog or going to work, that's just normal.

>>213978406
Sorry, but casting directors are all frumpy or old women who seethe at seeing young and hot women get more attention than them, so they purposefully cast women who are uglier than them so they feel better by comparison.

Star Wars is too boomer coded. The 70s sci-fi look is clearly not appealing to gen z.
Star Wars basically need to turn into something closer to Warhammer 40k, imo.

>>213978214
>there are no fully voluntary communes, tribes or even families
Now you're fucking getting it!

>>213973944 (OP)
Too late lmao, I hope every Feminist harpy gets gangraped to death by Muslims and Pajeets

>>213978512
>our fantasy settings... not a reflection of who we are or how we feel
>we will continue to diversify... so everyone can find heroes they can relate to
complete paradox of message within a single paragraph

>>213978374
I completely 100% agree with the ISIS comparison. I had assumed Disney would be competent and that's what the First Order would be. Bitter enders who manage to sweep back in because of how decrepit the system is. The Darth maul concept is hokey and silly but the entire series is. And honestly having Leia become the supreme political figure all pope like kind of works, it gives a nice feeling of being a chosen one is both being a knight and being a king (queen) - fighting but also ruling well and wisely.

>>213978484
I'm sick of 40k but in nerd culture it's closer to star wars back in the 90s/2000s than star wars is today where everyone (whether they like it or not) knows of it and details about it. The only reason kids aren't going to cosplay as it for halloween is it's not as easy as a colorful tube and a bath robe for being a Jedi or Sith, and it's more of a teenager/adult thing.

>>213977691
Strong does not equal rude
There is a difference between being headstrong and being a bitch

>>213973944 (OP)
The trick is to not hand them over to middle-aged lesbians who can only write self-inserts.
Everyone blames Feige but Alonso was the one really holding the reins.

>>213973944 (OP)
>Disney underestimated just how fragile men are these days and would like to say "sorry we hurt your fee-fees"
FTFY

>>213975750
>>213975750
This could be both edgy and cool. The point of FU WAS to be edgy and cool at the time. I’m down if they get the same actor, guy’s pretty good.

>>213978751
>disney shills overestimated how well their jevenile attempts at shame would work
ftfy

>>213978353
>>213976244
Here you go gentlemen.

>>213978664
I blame Filoni for the shitpile Star Wars is now. His gay ass OC character which retcons Anakin from the prequel films was beginning of the end.
>>213978803
>Captain Blood
Kino, although sad it doesn't have The Crimson Pirate.

>>213978374
That is much preferable than the garbage we got. Not in the least because it would have been a consistent story from start to end.

>>213978901
Really? I keep seeing people on /tv/ always crying about Maul. And Leia becoming the hero of the saga by the end of it? That wouldn't fly well with you chuddies. And George would've likely added some new young girl protagonist as well.

The problem with movies today is the writers, not the characters. Casting white men as strong protagonists isn't going to fix that. I'm pretty sure it's been decades since somebody wrote a great script that got picked up by a studio based on its own merits. Now the writers are just rooms full of creative writing degree holders who come to work and get told which IP they're supposed to ruin this month. They contrive some little half-baked twist, 'like the old one except this time...' and then print out page after page of circular bullshit to fill up ten episodes. Maybe some of them are even talented people but we'll never know because their original ideas aren't welcome.

Women follow men. Always been the case. Now that men checked out of MCU shit and Star Wars they don’t care. Women just waiting for next thing men enjoy so they can invade it

>>213978105
>This is what fucking commies, even utopian ones, never seem to fucking grasp
Except they do. They're called Anarcho-communists. Socialism has varying degrees of state involvement depending on your preference. From state communism to anarchic, there's even libertarian and market socialisms if that's your preference.

>>213975896
Anime has sucked ass since even longer than cinema.

>>213973944 (OP)
hurry and shoot the new star wars before daisy looks start to fade too much and have her wear skimpy clothing all movie long

>>213979044
already done, with the "manosphere" of all things lmao

Apologize, /tv/.

>>213973944 (OP)
I feel like after 5 years, people have permanently made up their minds and moved on. Marvel is stuck with their bad reputation now

>Read up about the books
>Apparently Luke has a wife and son
What the fuck? The sequel trilogy mentions nothing about this.

>>213973944 (OP)
Make a crossover event where Daisy and Brie fight over who gets to marry me, an unfuckable nerd with cystic acne and scoliosis

>>213977351
>But women think Star Wars being popular and profitable just...is. The same way they think there will always be trucks on the road, gas in the pumps and food in the supermarket
You're 100% right but this isn't exclusive to women, and they aren't the ones who created this worldview. It all comes back to fiat currency and quantitative easing. That's why everything started going to shit after the GFC. The failed institutions that should have been ground to bits and made into something better are still with us and bigger than ever because their survival has been deemed a high enough priority that the entire middle class has to be sucked dry to support them. Entertainment media is only the most visible facet of the problem. Companies like Disney+ wouldn't even exist if not for QE.

>>213979408
she cute

>>213979432
The twist ending is I get to marry both of them

>>213979448
If they wanted to force more female lead characters into the sequel trilogy, why didn't they use her? Would probably be a lot more interesting to see her as a main character as Luke's wife than a literal who Palpatine granddaughter.

>>213973944 (OP)

That´s the fun part. They can´t. Trust takes seconds to destroy but years to build, specially when every time they claimed to have changed was actually a lie. Even if they were to actually change now nobody would believe them.

>>213977961
>But on the other hand, when you do get well-written female characters with decent actresses, the chuds will screech regardless and claim the above is taking place because she's a woman
This doesn't happen. Nobody complained about the great actresses/characters in Andor.


People complain about when the character and casting are bad, Daisy Ridley's cute and a fine actress but everyone nobody likes a mary sue like Rey who can fly the millenium falcon better than Han Solo, magically know Jedi mind tricks and win her first lightsaber duel the second she picks up a lightsaber, something that took Luke 3 movies to do.

>>213978798
Calling critics fragile incels and manbabies during the female Ghostbusters debacle, it worked out alright for men.

>>213976053
holy shit that was so gay. i drink a lot of beer and i got more estrogen exposure by that 30 second webm than all the beers i drank last night and today

>>213979408
Because the first thing disney did was scrap the entire EU and then go back and cherry pick things they liked from it.

>>213979432
this but send both of them to a plastic surgeon first

>>213974074
uh oh, tintins looking pissed. hope its not teeside tintin

>>213973944 (OP)

A reality TV show where a new CEO comes in and starts publicly firing everyone and insulting them when doing so, calling them ugly and fags and such in the lead up to new projects.

>>213978541
What a fag that guy is.

>>213979610
For me that was when I started hating women.

>>213979610
>(((Jacob Shamsian)))
EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN TIME

gimme some crazy hot sith chicks being redeemed by jedi cock

What’s a matter, the whores and nigger tranny audience isn’t the gold mine the kikes thought it would be? Get fucked and kill yourself you are done Disney

imagine living in some thirdie country where critical drinker doesn't come on the news to whinge about disney

Looks like the chud revenge fantasy became the chud revenge reality

>>213974194
>grey Jedi
They dont exist, not even in the darkest corners of the EU.

>>213977063
You can tell who has actually read anything about the EU and those who dont.
Those who dont shit on NJO because of the Yuuzhan Vong, while those who have know that what was actual shit was Dark Empire and Legacy of the Force, series full of endless retcons and just plain character assassination.
The two most hated series for a reason.
But what's funny is that the Sequel trilogy is loosely based on them.
Disney took the EU, looked at what was most hated and just made movies about them.

>>213979509
Someone said Zahn has the rights to her? Maybe he didn't want Disney messing her up.
Plus she's a redhead and we all know where they went the last decade.

>>213978016
>humor
You can fuck right off back to watching your garbage MCU quip slop.
Star Wars is for young audiences, it needs a cool factor, and your ilk is the kind that always proposes the lamest shit someone could think of.
Star Wars is dying precisely because Disney is full of people like you who are really hyped to deliver the most boring, lame shit imaginable.
>WOW I DONT WANT TO SEE LUKE REBUILDING THE JEDI, I WANT A SHOW ABOUT SOME LITERALLY WHO TENDING TO HIS FARM
Go watch some boring fucking HBO drama and leave Star Wars alone.

>>213980133

Sure it is, they've been profiting on homos since the 80s, lots of disposable income. Problem is back then the middle American family wasn't aware of the pandering, but now it's too public, and you lose the one you relied on to be there at the expense of the other you wanted on top of it, that's the problem.

>>213976293
The original trilogy was literally sword and sorcery with a transparent sci-fi mask. They're probably the best sword and sorcery movies.

>>213973944 (OP)
>How can they will them back?
Public executions, I'm just not gonna watch anything else.

>>213973944 (OP)
Bring back Darth Maul as antagonist.
Bring Sidney Sweeney in as Darth Talon secondary antagonist, give her barely any voice lines.
Cast attractive/capable man as Kyle Katarn and have him be the male lead and have Gina Carano as female lead.

Make Kyle Katarn a player, he gets pussy, maybe make him addicted to death sticks.
Give him a love triangle between Gina Carano and Sidney Sweeney.

Make his story arc about not giving a shit to being forced to give a shit, his inaction allowed innocent people to die.

>>213980982
>Gina Carano as female lead.

>>213981001
She's going to be female lead of something Star Wars related, she's milf tier now, go for it.

>>213980039
The final big bad of the EU was basically that, she was a woman so corrupted by the dark side after being abandoned by her family she basically became a lovecraftian monster. She was obsessed with rebuilding her family and chose Luke as the ideal replacement for her husband, and went as far as shapeshifting into Mara Jade to seduce him.

>>213981026
i'm done with dogfaced women and old hags
i want youth and beauty

>>213979825
>A reality TV show where a new CEO comes in and starts publicly firing everyone and insulting them when doing so
The Apprentice? Trump's kinda busy right now.

>>213981093
Chrith croth, Abeloth

>>213973944 (OP)
Death Star III that rips through time and space and destroys the nu-canon entirely

>>213975832
You are trying to say something or profound but it fell flat. They need to get on their knees and beg for an apology. It was an awful.

>>213980982
MC should be CHADcen Solo, though.

>>213981093
It was unintentionally funny how the only time in the EU where Luke is shown to be straight up terrified is when Abeloth showed him her real form, even though she did it thinking he would "understand".

Star Wars and Marvel would literally have to be more masculine and sex charged than they ever were in the first place.

>>213981183
That's obviously where Sydney Sweeney comes in for the love triangle/trying to convert him to the dark side

>>213975458
i like ike

>>213974788
*taps sign*

>>213975832
Genuinely, why would an apology be bad?
We know they fucked up, they know they fucked up. Seems like an apology is in order, idk.
Don't want to hear any corpo speak about how it;s "bad for the brand", because you already tanked the brand. Just apologize.

Just don't hire uggos and don't make them obnoxious.
I can bet you a New Jedi Order padawan played by a pretty actress like Kenny would be liked by men and women alike. Doubly so if it includes a dark side and redemption arc.
It's Star Wars, it's not hard nor it requires overthinking.

>>213978484
Funny that 40k got popular when Stars Wars became irreverence. Filioni/KK probably seethed at Space Marine 2 or that one amazon episode.

>FOR THE REPUBLIC. DEATH TO THE EMPIRE
I swear the worst sin Disney made was turning the New Republic away from anti-Imperial jingoism to making them a bunch of lame, Flanderized pacifists like the UN.

>>213978484
>The 70s sci-fi look is clearly not appealing to gen z.
Isn't there an Aliens show airing right now?

>>213973944 (OP)
Hire Grace Caroline Curvy to be Carol...and have her go nudist.

>>213973944 (OP)
They need to re-theme the park to take place during the Old Republic. That way you dont have to rely on characters from the movies that you're never going to be able to replicate with theme park actors, and it would take place in a time where it makes sense to see all these jedi and Sith walking around the park because they would be abundant in the time period. They cant do this without making corresponding movies and or shows to go with to introduce people to the new heroes and villians. The Skywalkers saga and its characters have been bastardized enough, and I can't stand to watch them destroy it anymore. Revan as a character has just as much power to grab fan attention as Vader ever could at this point. And if they actually hire imagineers with talent and knowledge and love of the lore they can surely make it to where the theme park can be interchangeable with whatever era of Star Wars is being explored currently. And most of all, they need to retcon the sequel trilogy Palpatine Saga as soon and as quickly as possible. Many of the fans they want back will never forgive them for as long as those movies exist lol as canon.

>>213981910
Or better, remove the current canon and make the New Republic era stuff people wanted to see.
The average fan has no clue what the Old Republic was.

>>213974134
And I still wouldn’t watch it.

Give it to me.
No, seriously.
Give it to me.
Give it all to me.
I will from the moment the ownership of the entirety of the franchise and intellectual property is passed over to me dedicate my entire life of reintroducing Star Wars into the collective consciousness of mankind.
I will set forth a plan for a 10 year plan for films. I will cast only the young and sexy. I will gather only the finest artists and highest echelon of the film making industry to my side to help me on my journey. I will revitalize long dormant toy manufacturing companies and kick start them into creating products that are not mere pieces of junk and that will be on the Christmas wish list of every single child for decades to come. I will appeal to the child in all of us, ages 8-80. Star Wars will be whimsical, heartfelt, dazzling and spectacular again. Dizzying action sequences, perilous journeys and exciting adventures, sumptuous locations and mind-blowing locales; I will endeavour that the movies will kickstart imaginations with a galaxy that is on FIRE with its beauty. The battle scenes will overwhelm the senses and be jaw dropping, drawing inspirations from conflicts of the ancient and modern world, from the air to land to space and the sea. It will all pale in comparison to the underlying spiritual war that drives the entirety of the plot and affects us all. I will make multiple game studios take on Star Wars projects to deliver an incredible influx of new game series that will contend for games of the year multiple years in a row.
The men will be hot and the women will be sexy; both dreamy and to die for. They will get swept off their feet into amazing adventures and meet incredible friends and characters along the way. The music will hit such emotional highs that every single 10 year old with even the smallest bit of musical talent will play every single song from every single piece of the soundtrack.
I will make Star Wars resonate again.
Give it to me.

>>213981962
>New Sith Wars
>Rule of Two lineage book series
>GoT style Golden age of the Sith series

So many missed opportunities.

>>213982132
>GoT style
Game of Thrones is utter cancer and should never be inspiration to anything.

>>213982000
See, disney has created a great sacrilege in the eyes of many fans. They could make and put out an apology for ever making the sequel trilogy and many fans would never come back to see how or what they replace it all with.

>>213981566
It would be bad because I dislike seeing those who are low and groveling.

>>213982178
They didn't chase away the core fanbase temporarily, but permanently. They were quite explicit in their intent to replace the core audience with a "new audience" who never turned up.
Now nobody wants anything to do with them. And Star Wars is dead.

>>213982112
They really do need to put the creative decisions in the hands of a council of worthy and esteemed fans that know Star Wars like the back of their hands. Because Kennedy and the people she gets will never cut it, nor will any woke writer or director. Star Wars is not meant to be woke, and until its pulled out of the woke muck its going to be avoided by the fans who know what Star Wars should be.

>>213981093
I will always insist that Abeloth with some tweaks makes for the perfect "final villain" of Star Wars.
You'd have to make her way less sadistic and more of a tragic figure, but the rest is all on point: she's a massive threat that forces Jedi and Sith to fight together, she carries the theme of obsessive attachment leading to corruption, introduces the more casual fans to the more mythical and autistic part of the lore...

Plus, the whole "I can fix her" and motherly aspects of her would cause waves of waifufaggism.

>>213982169
If people like Andor then they would like a political thriller starring the exile dark jedi dominating the sith and competing with each other.

>>213982356
I was scrolling and I saw you guys were talking about my mom. Just wanted to pop in and say (you)

>>213982356
Maybe, but I've always been of the opinion that Darth Krayt makes for the perfect ending villian for the Skywalker saga. He presence spans all the Skywalkers generations, and his reason for turning to the Darkside and hate for the Skywalker clan very poetic, and ironic in the fact that he can't kill the last Skywalker without dooming himself. Also Can't believe disney was so blind as to not use Darth Plagueis as the ultimate villian of the Sequel trilogy, they truly have no vision.

>>213975557
>>AMERICAN NINJA X: NEXT GENERATIONS
B A S E D.

>>213982181
I think they have to admit they did something wrong, and display that they understand they did something wrong, and then make clear moves to right the wrong, before I can ever trust them.
There is no "water under the bridge". You called me Hitler for a decade, and wiped your ass with some of my favorite things. Apolgise. And fire everyone responsible.

>>213978512
MY FUCKING GOD.
Shit was wrote by a retard bot.

>>213982414
Your mom is a pedophile.

>>213982850
There's nothing sexual about Abeloth putting her needy tentacles inside of you.

>>213973944 (OP)
Maybe it's too late now buy I always wanted Star Wars to be like Gundam. Meaning some shows are canon and other dont. Some focus on the main conflict aka the One Year War. That would be the civil war for SW. Also SW needs to be toyetic, cant be about 2 people in a room talking about democracy.

>>213977266
lmao it killed its own intended trilogy

>>213978374
That sounds great though.

>>213976053
>being catcalled is traumatizing
kek

>>213982850
>>213982905

Abeloth's eels up inside ya!
Finding an entrance where they can!

https://youtu.be/0AckvdGbk4w?si=cuFcwjI6i9-h2YYy

>>213977628
retarded

>>213979009
Giving Leia an arc which is about learning to cope with the realities of being a Queen would actually be good. Better than what we got, which is she's just kind of there.

I'm frankly tired of Star Wars.
I don't want any more.
Not for a long time at least.
Same with Alien, Predator, and any similar sci-fi shit I used to love when I was 14.
Just fucking stop.

>>213983052
what about harry potter?

>>213983052
yeah. I'm just not watching that stuff anymore. I don't even really care if it's good. They overdid it.
We got four Alien movies over a period of twenty years, and then we waited about 15 years to get another one. That's what Alien was when I was getting into it. There was a sense of scarcity, and excitement around the potential of new releases. Now stuff just comes out, and it comes out constantly, and it feels like it doesn't mean anything.

>>213982905
Wish she had more actual fanart and less shops.

>>213983107
Was never really my thing. I hear they're doing some new show. I hope it's good for the younger audiences. Probably won't be. It's not for me.
>>213983174
Alien, being a hard-R horror series with a lot of interesting and mature subtext, plus evolving into some very genuinely interesting sci-fi and philosophical territory with Prometheus, I felt alright with being a fan of it into my young adulthood.
The two Disney titles have just been offensive to me.

Fire Kathleen Kennedy and Kevin Feige
Apologize formally for everything they did
Appoint normal human men to replace them

>>213984285
There does need to be a balance.
"Normal human men" aren't terribly interesting.