Thread 213986371

How can this movie possibly make a profit? It has to clear $2.5 billion just to break even! What is Disney even thinking here!?

very expensive CGI saar

People love Marvel it'll make a fortune have sex incel

>>213986371 (OP)
>How can this movie possibly make a profit?
By money laundering of course

>>213986371 (OP)
Not going to. First billion dollar bomb. Might not even make a billion with China boycotting capeshit. Pure desperation because the MCU machine is falling apart

>>213986371 (OP)
i wonder how much marvel spent to get RDJ back on board?

>>213986371 (OP)
Source : Wallahi bro i'm telling you even if they're not done shooting yet

>>213986371 (OP)
its not really about the individual movie anymore they have profits from previous movies and need to continue the brand success so it stays relevant in your mind. Like even with the new Superman the point was to launch Superman as culturally relevant not to make mad profts on that one movie.

People liked IW and EG because it was the culmination of a series of generally well liked movies starring heroes that people cared about. Doomsday is going to have a bunch of heroes that nobody cares about, many from movies that a lot of people never even watched.

>>213986371 (OP)
If this performs like a wet fart, I don't see how capeshit can go on

>>213986371 (OP)
If that is true, there's no way in hell it makes a penny of profit. It's just a sign of Disney being desperate and they are trying to fix somerthing that is broken just by throwin money at it.

But this won't stop us seeing a lot of false positivie stories about it breaking what ever milestone they think is great. We might even see biggest movie ever having Doom as a villain

I don't need this film
It's no longer about price tickets or DEI nonsense
I simply don't need Avengers: Doomsday
I have no attachment with The NewAvengers/New Spiderman films or anything related to MARVEL.
I remember interested in Thanos, Scarlet Witch, Thor and even Wakanda (I may be a little bit racist) but I no longer feel interested in this films.
Don't get me wrong. I prolly watch it when it reaches Disney +

>>213986686
RDJ getting paid 100 million.. Russos are getting 80 million. Add on bloated 250 million in cast fees, 8 million on pre production, all the reshoots. Then promotions

>>213987030
How the FUCK is RDJ getting $100 million!?

>>213986371 (OP)
>What is Disney even thinking here!?
How much cocaine they can fit on a Tanker Cruiser

>>213986424
Yes, it's all a secret CONSPIRACY! They make money no matter what!

>>213986371 (OP)
Rdj playing doom was the first sign of this movie being shit

>>213986651
You don't need a question mark for a statement. I wonder why you're retarded.

This is gonna back fire so hard in their face, capeshit is on the decline and theyre putting all their chips on this one movie that one is even going to care about

>>213987030
>RDJ getting paid 100 million
He is not getting a hundred lol, he's getting a lot but certainly not a hundred

>>213987053
He's not. That's preposterous.

>>213986371 (OP)
It sure will be a whiz-bank piece of feminist, godless, sh. I can't wait to actively avoid it.

JEETZ up rn

Think about the profound and objective good that one billion US dollars could do for the world if applied correctly.

>>213987268
Yup capesit is dying, at least one of these would have reached a billion 5 years ago

>>213986371 (OP)
it'll be a loss leader to reboot the MCU

>>213986651
I heard it was something like $100 million USD up-front (for the two movies?) PLUS he will probably get some kind of back-end percentage too. I guess they knew they were fucked ever since Quantumania underperformed and then Kang had to get replaced as the new Thanos.

>>213986371 (OP)
They say movie costs X and retards will buy tickets until the boxoffice is 2X to claim they did it. Nothing new

>>213987140
Why is it preposterous? Brad Pitt got fucking $30 million just for F1. You think they wouldn't offer RDJ $100 million to lock him in as the villain for two huge blockbuster movies?

>>213988002
you're talking to retards anon

>>213986371 (OP)
Half of that takes RDJ.

>>213986686
You usually budget something before you do it.

>>213986410
This isn't 2015

>>213986371 (OP)
hope it flops so we can see an end to this bullshit, will watch online at 720p though lol

>>213986371 (OP)
i hope this will DOOM fucking disney finally.

>>213986371 (OP)
everyone should boycott this movie so they lose even more money

>>213986371 (OP)
Are they really going full steam ahead after Floptastic 4 failed to garner any interest?
I just had a look at Phase 5's performance:

>Antman 3
budget: $330 million : box office: $476 million
>Guardians of the Galaxy 3
$250 million : $845 million
>The Marvels
$307 million : $206 million
>Deadpool and Wolverine
$200 million : $1.3 billion
>Brave New World
$180 million (bullshit) : $415 million
>Thunderbolts
$180 million : $382 million

And the film that kicked off Phase 6 has a $200+ million budget and currently has $490 million in box office. That does not remotely suggest there's the kind of interest there that they can recoup a $1 billion investment just because it has 'Avengers' on the poster. They have destroyed the MCU. I remember less than 20 years ago for most people the MCU was Spiderman and X-Men. They didn't give a fuck about anything else. We've come full circle. If it doesn't have Spiderman or Wolverine (and seemingly with a hefty dose of nostaglia) audiences aren't interested.
They have killed their golden goose.

>>213986371 (OP)
Box office doesn't really mean shit here.

They're gonna sell toys to children and man-children, they're gonna sell Doomsday branded kleenex and soda, they're gonna sell Doomsday shirts and Funko Pops. The Steelbook is gonna be $90 and sell a quarter million copies. Box Office is only there to make sure the people that worked on the movie don't get paid.

This movie is going to bomb so hard, it's going to kill capeshit hard, like when Heaven's Gate killed westerns, but 100 times worse, because studios weren't that dependent on westerns, like they are with capeshit.

>>213988276
Dude, the DCU reboot is only one movie in, capeshit isn't going anywhere for a long fucking time

>>213988321
>DC is going to save capeshit
Hahahahaha!
You're one funny motherfucker!

>>213988321
Doomsday flopping will be a generational shift, people will abandon capeshit altogether. Even normies are sick of it.

>>213986371 (OP)
That's not Ironman so I don't care. Another billion wasted.

>>213988362
>>213988372
They JUST STARTED with a whole fucking new franchise, they're not going to stop because you said they are
Unless DC movies start making zero dollars they're going to go for at least ten movies before giving up
They already have two TV series and two more movies in the pipeline. Nobody fucking watched Creature Commandos, they didn't cancel Superman because of it.

>>213986371 (OP)
>It has to clear $2.5 billion just to break even

>>213988233
This. They will blend the budget with the sequel.

Also they will spend anything if they think it will bring the MCU back to life.

>>213988321
ah yes, the third or fourth attempt at a DCU now...

>>213988484
This is dumb. We aren’t selling lemonade. It’s known studios dont include marketing into the budget. Rule used to be 1.5-2x budget, I’m sure its higher now.

>>213987053
He made 50 million for Endgame. So Doomsday + Secret Wars = 100 million

>>213988484
what a stupid post. What a stupid image.

Let’s not forget China is boycotting all capeshit along with most Asian countries that use eat that slop up. This is the first year in over a decade not one capeshit movie has made over 700 million. Doomsday is beyond fucked. It was pathetically crawl to a billion and that’s it. Might not even make a billion and pull a Minecraft

It’s absolutely ridiculous that a person can demand 100 million for like 5 weeks of work while other people can literally work (any) job for 40 hours a week year round and barely afford to survive

>>213986371 (OP)
Are we doing Captain America Brand New Dogshit posting again?

>>213987380
Yeah it is utterly insane that that money isn't being sent to Israel in its darkest hour

>>213988684
LMAO

>>213988661
It is ridiculous but you’re worth what whatever someone is willing to pay you. Blame Disney. I don’t blame RDJ. If I could get paid that much to pretend to be Dr Doom, fuck yeah

>>213988421
>They JUST STARTED with a whole fucking new franchise
And it flopped harder than 2 attempts ago

>>213988484
Jewish newfag from Reddit that showers with his father

>>213987380
You mean like donated to the Heritage Foundation?

>>213988773
You idiots are so consumed by your own idea of what should happen that your oblivious to reality. They dumped a fuckton of money into building this shit up and they're not going to just stop unless some catastrophe happens. Like they make a Batman movie and literally no one buys a ticket. Whether or not they turn a profit is completely irrelevant, this is a sunk cost situation where they're simply in too deep to just cancel this shit. There's literally only been ONE movie, they're going to have to have ten flops on a row before they pull the plug.

>>213986371 (OP)
2.5 billy is nothing for a RDJ joint like this
It's gonna be insane

>>213986689
>They're not trying to make any profit, you wouldn't get it

>>213988856
He's 100% right

>>213987030
This is kind of how it had to end. It's like when a sports team wins a title and everyone expects to get paid as a result but in that case some guys get paid and then they have to make cuts elsewhere. Disney can't cut anywhere.

The rest of the cast aren't making Downey money but none of them are cheap and there's like 65 of them. They can't not have the army of jeet CGI artists because like 80% of the movie is going to be digital effects and CGI characters. They can't skimp on director's fees because they've tried handing off huge projects to cheap randos and they got The Marvels out of it. If this is their last shot you want the Russos, not fucking Nia DaCosta . And they can't skimp on the advertising because you can't not promote a movie when you need it to gross $2 billion.

And they can't just not do it. They frittered away so much potential profitability and Inside out 2 isn't keeping the company afloat. They already killed Star Wars. Their quarterly plans include beacoup dollars coming in thanks to the MCU so just sitting on it until the X-Men are ready won't do. Their hands are tied. This is ill advised but it's going to happen anyway

>>213988856
He's 0% right

>>213987380
Governments around the world piss away that amount or more on a regualr basis and shit remains fucked. How many trillion have shoveled to Africa by now? What difference did it make?

>>213986371 (OP)
1 billion seconds = 32 years
On what are they spending literal hundreds of millions of dollars? Hollywood is a money laundering scheme.

>>213986371 (OP)
I would say that if it had Awkwafina as a main in it, it would have a chance, but they can't afford her.

It won't be quite as high a budget as they're saying because most of the acting talent in it are being used based on contracts they were paid for years ago, and they still have one or two cameo or supporting roles left to run on their contact that they are legally obliged to provide. Thats how and why they got RDJ to play Doom; he has one film left from the contract he signed, so he was bought and paid for nearly a decade ago.

The same goes for most of the other stars in the film, this is mostly just mopping up what they have left on old contracts. On paper they'll say a fraction of the original contract has been paid for them on this film, but in reality that money was paid for years back by more successful films made back when the MCU was riding high. The inflated figures will be used for tax breaks, to further cut the financial outlay.

Also, marketing for films has been an absolute state the last 5 years. There is no way on Earth that the old rule of the same as the film's budget being spent on marketing is true anymore, especially for a film that costs 1 billion. What are they even going to spend that on, if true? A solid platinum statue of Pedro Pascal for the premiere? Raising the Titanic, restoring it, docking it in New York and having the premiere there?

All this from the company that can't afford Awkwafina because they didn't put her on a multi-film contract for Shang-Chi...

>>213988856
Yes, it's not about having individual projects make a profit, it's about the brand staying profitable over time.

As previous anon said, things changed Post Covid and direct steaming. People aren’t going to pay to see Ant Man and D D list characters like once did. They will wait for it to be dumped onto Disney+. If not A listers or an Event Movie then it’s for Disney+

RDJ is definitely not even worth half his contract at this point.

>>213988484
You fucking moron. Marketing budgets aren't included, there are plenty of people working for the studio that contribute to a film but isn't included in the budget for the film itself, theaters takes a cut (which varies between regions) and there are many other factors, that's why the easy number to work with since the public don't have access to the details is that a film has to make 2.5 times back it's stated budget to reach that breakeven point where it's profitable.

>>213988484
i look like that and say that

>>213989160
Doesn't even have much to do with covid or streaming. They saturated the market so bad that people got tired of keeping up with it even before that.

>>213989371
Yeah. Early on I used to even seek out the shorts for the sake of keeping up. Post Wandavision I just kind of gave up, haven't watched most of the shows.

>>213987380
Take the good that will come of spending that billion dollars and put it in one hand then shit in your other hand and see which gets full first.

>>213989457
>Shits in his hand
Is it morning already saar?

>>213987100
Hey, you said it, not me

>>213986371 (OP)
They're bringing back too many old actors and they suck Disney dry.

>>213988484
>It doesn't know the budget for the film doesn't include the marketing which is often at least the same amount of money again
>It doesn't know that the box office is *gross* income and the theatre chains will take anywhere from 20-60% of it depending on country and individual deals with studios
>It actually went to the trouble of making a DA JOOOOZ wojakshitter failmeme based on its own colossal ignorance
Jesus christ man, how can someone so embarassing not just drop dead on the spot, the endless crushing psychic waves of cringe you inspire in everyone who comes within a kilometer of your worthless existence should be unbearable.

>>213986371 (OP)
He died holding the stones making wishes so they wanted more power in the character to give the face a magical depth.

>>213986371 (OP)
>costs almost 1B to make the next turbo nigger NPC goy comic slop movie

Fucking KEK. Hard pass for me. Have fun with that you fags.

>>213987030
>RDJ getting 100M

Imagine thinking that’s true. There’s absolutely no way he’s getting paid that much. Tom Cruise doesn’t even get paid that amount. Don’t be a stupid jungle nigger.

>>213990137
I buy it. Disney is anticipating this movie being the biggest thing of all time. Don't forget one of the Avengers movies was and fucking Ne Zha 2 did almost 2 billion. They're wrong of course, but if you're assuming making $2 billion on a movie, giving the lead a hundred mil isn't ridiculous.

>>213990210
Jesus my brain 404d
*don't forget one of the Avengers movies was the #1 box office spot of all time for a while

>>213987924
At first it was reported as 80 mil, then newer reports say it's 100 mil including bonuses and revenue cuts, etc

>>213986371 (OP)
The bigger question is why did the post Endgame Russo Brothers become such hacks? Like seriously they having been turbo-jobbing the most soulless shit imaginable and cruising off their reputation ever since they left Marvel. Like can they seriously turn it back 'on' like a light switch after being in auto pilot hack jobber mode for so long?

>>213990210
I can see him getting 50, at max, but no more than that. Deadpool/Wolvie was massive and Reynolds and Hugh didn’t get paid more than 20M to come back.

>>213987053
They're desperate. They know this shit would bomb without him and still might bomb.

>>213986371 (OP)
Capeshit has been dying a slow death for years but this will be the killing stroke

>>213987053
>How the FUCK is RDJ getting $100 million!?
forget the other retarded replies it's the "benefit" of being in a union. They have to keep raising his pay movie to movie. This is ultimately why these cinematic universes really can't catch on because if you want these actors for many movies their salaries get more and more bloated

>>213990297
RDJ was making $50 million per back in the IW days which is why they killed him off. They opened the Brinks truck and gave him a substantial raise to bring him back because they are desperate. I heard it was 100 million at least but that might be for both Doomsday and Secret Wars

>>213986371 (OP)
MCU doesn't need to turn a profit because MCU is art.

>>213990278
Because they are not really creative. These people are running scripts written 20-30 years ago while tweaking it to serve their interests. When that shit runs out we got the current situation with Marvel and Star Wars and Hollywood as a whole. This is why Hollywood has been releasing half baked what-if ideas for almost a decade. Like swapping genders or races but the plot is essentially a retread of old movies. The fucking Rise of Skywalker dagger scene is literally a ripoff of The Goonies which was also produces by Kathleen Kennedy.

>>213986371 (OP)
>>213986371 (OP)
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>>213990137
>>213987030
Completely possible that $100m figure was estimated as a a lump sum figure e.g. $20m plus a % of profits. So he's not 'getting paid $100 million' before the general release, he's getting a smaller amount than that at first and the calculation is assuming the film will make a killing at the box office.

Thank Tony Stark we have a seemingly infinite pool of resources to dump into Marvel movies and Israel missiles. Makes never being able to get into the housing market worth it

>>213991449
what the fuck does that have to do with anything jeet? Is the picture below really how you wanna look.. like a white girl?

>>213988484
The rule of thumb has always been 2.5x the budget. Unless that doesn't fit the narrative. Then it magically needs more. Latest example being Superman, which this board still claims is a flop despite it clearing 2.5x with a good margin.

>>213990439
>RDJ was making $50 million per back in the IW days which is why they killed him off.
Disney would have gladly paid him $50 million till doomsda-oh hahaha anyway they would have paid him 50 forever for what his movies were taking in.

>>213991610
That was not the case and you are looking at the situation with 20/20 hindsight. Remember Endgame was at the time of maximum Disney ego and hubris where they thought they could do no wrong and literally plug in my any DEI hire off the street and make $800 million minimum. In their minds they didn't need Chris Evans or RDJ. The MCU was a juggernaut that could do no wrong.

>>213986371 (OP)
At this point they just want people to go see their damn movies again. They're probably willing to take a financial loss with reckless spending here as long as it revives interest in their brand and sets up future cheaper movies to be more profitable.

He'll get blacklisted from Hollywood if this fails, right?

>>213990421
based unions for putting those companies in their place

>>213987408
don't forget inflation. a billion 5 years ago is like two billion now

>>213990421
>They have to keep raising his pay movie to movie
Doesn't seem to be a hard rule. Renner refused to come back last time they asked because they offered him less money than before.

>>213986371 (OP)
because marvel rivals is the biggest thing to happen to their brand since infinity war.
it has brought back young eyes for marvel in a way that their movies have failed completely.

>>213988208
amazing how all of this could've easily been avoided if they just accepted endgame as the last mcu movie and moved on to something else.

>>213989740
kek

Robert Down Here Junior is very short and I don't like him.

>>213987140
Completely reasonable. It may look stupid to rational people but he's the main man of the MCU. People will flock to it simply for the 'what he's the bad guy now?' hook, just like idiots do with wrestling, which is what capeshit basically is now.

>>213992582
>but he's the main man of the MCU
till iron-man died
>People will flock to it simply for the 'what he's the bad guy now?' hook, just like idiots do with wrestling,
except people don't give a shit and see this as the most pathetic way in saving the brand

>>213986780
>highest-grossing most expensive movie ever!

>>213986371 (OP)
Movies make a billion max and even that is hard to do. They fucked up.

>>213990421
that's not how the actors union works. they aren't involved with hiring or salary negotiations beyond setting the minimum amounts to support minor jobs, because almost all acting is contract labor. high-paid actors (he still wouldn't be getting anything close to that) have agents, their asking price does not increase indefinitely but is based on a number of factors including past and expected performance, and if they do have a particularly big payday it's usually tied to a performance based percentage.

>>213986371 (OP)
it obviously isn't costing them anywhere near that. the business case simply wouldn't allow it. and it would raise legal questions with shareholders.

So what the fuck are they going to do afterwards, introduce a new villain?

>>213992325
More like he didn't come back because he lost his penis to a snowplow.

>>213987030
Why is he getting paid 100 million when him trying to portray Doom looks so ASS?

This looks like piss

>>213993139
I think there’s a good chance they stop doing overarching plots across phases after this fails. They should have known better than to make the multiverse the central focus of their movies for the last 5 years, though

Do you think anyone will rewatch these shit movies in 10 or 20 years?

>>213987030
>>213986371 (OP)

>>213987408
At least one of those would've been watchable 5 years ago

>>213993444
False, capeshit was never good

>>213993506
Logan and Joker were good.

>>213993139
Supposedly X-men but with younger actors instead of geriatrics, something they shouldve done right after Endgame

Marvel is KWAB now

>>213993666
Joker was good until he got RAPED in an asylum like Binging with Babish

>>213986371 (OP)
>production budget 1 billion
>marketin budget another billie
They have to make 3 billion

>>213993816
They also need to spend a billion in making merchandise for this shit
This is going to be the biggest flop in film history.

Which actor do you think will get bogged before the movie finishes production?

>>213994039
>actor
>capeshit

Do you call a cook the guy working at Mcdonald's lel.

>>213987030
>>213993816

What type of person even cares about capeshit anymore? I thought everyone stopped caring after Endgame

>>213992503
They could never just give up on making MCU movies. What a competent studio would have done was:
1. Not make Star Wars so bad that nobody wanted to see their movies.
2. Stagger phases of the MCU and Star Wars movies with TV shows filling in. So MCU would have taken a 5-6 year break in 2019 with just a few shows coming out to keep actors employed and interest alive. 2019-2025 would have been time for 3-5 Star Wars movies. Now MCU movies would come back and Star Wars would take a break and just do tv.
This would also let them explore new characters in the tv shows for a lower budget and figure out which ones could go on to be in the movies in a few years and drop those that their audience wasn't interested in.
What Disney wanted was two cash cows that they could milk every year and what they made was two turds.

>>213994281
>what they made was two turds
No wonder jeets love their movies so much

>>213994281
I like this plan. Would've made the movies feel like events again.

>>213987100
completely correct

>absolutely no build up
>they've had numerous movies and TV shows to even just hint at Dr Doom
>literal last minute shot tacked on 2 second end credits scene on latest bland movie

hahahahaha

>>213988321
>dude the 100th attempt at dcu has only just begun just trust me bro we are in for a treat
Lmao bruh

>>213994993
Why is everyone deliberately misinterpreting what I said? Did I say they were going to be good? They just started this attempt, they're not going to drop it after just three movies. Hell, the last attempt mostly a complete disaster, but they still made like 15 of them.

>>213987053
You underestimate how desperate they are:
>Antman 3 flopped
>The Marvels flopped
>Thunderbolts flopped
>Fantastic Four flopped
All those had 300 million budget

First DOOM movie: RDJ offers a really good serious performance that makes you forget he ever was Tony Stark.
They remove the 4th wall thing from Deadpool to make the movie more realistic.
Movie underperforms because superhero fatigue
Execs think hard about it
They decide it needs more RDJ quips for the next movie to make bank
They go all out on 4th wall jokes with Deadpool, to the point it's the only thing he does
They turn DOOM into a quip machine with Deadpool as the sort of narrator of the movie making fun of the 'bad parts' of it (IT WAS BAD ON PURPOSE)
Both RDJ and Ryan feel like killing themselves, but are able to get back their will to live by bathing in money.
You KNOW this is what is going to happen, right?

They are not joking with this movie.

>>213992099
He's basically like Kathleen Kennedy at this point. Unless he's in the Epstein files then he'll continue having a cushy Hollywood job of some sort, he'd just go more under the radar if Doomsday and Secret Wars underperform.

Are there any other examples of genre killing movies? >>213988276 mentioned Heaven's Gate, but I can't think of any others.

the idea is to try and kickstart people giving a shit about the avengers again
i dont think they anticipate this actually making money

>>213991539
FUCK YEESSS

>>213995595
>the idea is to try and kickstart people giving a shit about the avengers again
Isn't that what Thunderbolts AKA "The New Avengers" was supposed to do? That's why they made a big deal about the asterix?

>>213995700
>That's why they made a big deal about the asterix?
that shit was so funny. to try to rebrand post launch

>>213995365
Why the FUCK are they bringing him back? He already had the Infinity saga

>>213987030
Everyone's grabbing one last paycheck before it collapses.

>>213986371 (OP)
That figure likely includes the value of marketing and cross promotional ties in to make it alarmist as possible (marketing isn't included in 2.5x estimates, tie ins are generally free or profit with the partner putting the money up)

No way it costs more than double End Game.

>>213995891
They are throwing everything that they think is popular to it. Disney NEEDS this to be a huge hit. They need it to break a billion.

>>213995891
He's the OC for the Disneyland Avengers ride which is multiverse themed, doubt he'll have much of a role in the movie other than to job to Doom.

>>213986371 (OP)
>if we do more, we'll get more!
Its the normie mindset taken to its extreme. Sacrifice=reward, even when it doesnt

>>213996116
They keep digging up characters like toys from Andy's attic. Little do they know, they're on the way to the landfill.

>>213987109
But are you retarded?

Absolute SLOP

>>213988889
So Disney is going bankrupt?

>>213995365
If they actually make the kino scene where Doom rips his skeleton out of his body I will see this movie.

>>213995566
Cutthroat Island killed the pirate movie genre until Pirates of the Caribbean.
I feel like live action musicals have been killed for extended periods over the years but I'm not sure I could pinpoint one that killed them off.

>>213986371 (OP)
Splendid, this is going to be the TORtanic of a lifetime.

>>213996288
Not bankrupt, but they are losing their place as the biggest entertainment house around. It's gonna be 1980s for Disney all over again and they need to rediscover themselves.

>>213988577
>So the rule of thumb is that studios need movies to gross 2.5 times their production budgets to climb out of the red.
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/box-office-opening-weekend-why-does-it-matter-1236033313/

>>213986371 (OP)
Jesus the fuckin kikes at Disney have lost their goddamn minds

>>213996570
It's pretty known by now that streaming revenue is only a fraction of what they used to earn from VHS and DVD sales. It's one of the reasons we're seeing fewer mid budget films (especially romcoms)

>>213986371 (OP)
Citation needed.

MUST CONSOOM CAPESHIT

>>213994974
Ironically, Thanos squandered initial hype and became kind of a joke from Phase 2 until Infinity War. The "buildup" has been retconned due to Infinity War suddenly delivering a great villain. He was a joke in Guardians.

>>213996634
>It's one of the reasons we're seeing fewer mid budget films (especially romcoms)
Which is dumb because a Sydney Sweeney's romcom got almost a quarter billion at the box office. Hollywood got too comfortable relying on huge blockbusters and neglected middle budget movies.

>>213996634
Yes. Good post. It's a big reason why no company wanted to wide release Ron Howard's Eden with a $50 million budget. Too much risk ( plus how does Jude Law lead that movie in 2025?!) and now it's going to lose a lot of money. Celine Song made her rom com drama for $20 million, got 3 names that are at least as big as the 4 Howard got (and all much bigger than Jude Law), it went wide everywhere and is now looking at $100 million plus.

The margin of error is razor thin for mid budgets now and companies are more careful than ever for distribution on them, and Ron Howard's loss was Celine Song's gain.

>>213996150

Disney tries to remake this scene from the comics for an epic memberberry.

>>213996700
Also good post, Anyone But You was made for $25 million, and that's much safer for wide release than Eden's $50 million too.

>>213987380
>that money could have gone to line the pockets of employees at a """"charity""""
unironically the marvel movie does more for society

>>213996700
The problem is that you've got to make a romcom with someone popular with your target market but who won't demand $10m in wages. Maybe Sweeny's popularity will have a few studios looking around for another super hot barely known who can act just well enough for it to work. Heck could you imagine this board if Daphne Keene got put in a sexy comedy?

Adam Sandler has had a bunch of success because him owning the production company means he makes money whilst keeping wages low and he's able to call on friends who are popular but not expensive who are happy to spend a month or two having fun shooting at a cheap holiday destination with minimal need for expensive sets or spending fortunes closing up city streets for shooting.

>>213996841
I hate doomfags so goddamn much.

>>213988889
So Disney is Tsarist Russia and Avengers: Doomsday is the Battle of Tsushima?

The MCU is fully dead now

>>213988484
>thinks profits form mass-produced products are the same as making a movie with people Individual effort and costs
that's quite revealing in more than one way

>>213987268
>the best one made the least amount of money

>>213995365
looks like ai

>>213986535
It's called "jeet", newfag.

What's doom's motive

>>213987924
They should have unironically kept Kang, the X-Men memberberries and Iron Man showing up in Secret Wars for a brief cameo would have offset the weaker box office by having to pay RDJ less and not having to scramble with rewrites and reshoots to shoehorn Doom at the last minute and fail to make a cohesive movie/storyline.

>>213996841
>Annihilus chilling watching Doom BTFO Thanos

Wtf is this shit

>>213997353
I think Superman was better than Thunderbolts but they're the only 2 of the 4 worth watching.

>>213997565
The last pile of dirt upon the gravestone of the American Empire.

>>213992676
>except people don't give a shit
Everyone I know is preordering tickets the moment that shit goes live. Every theater will be filled to the brim.

>>213993358
In 100 years Endgame will be the most remembered movie of our era.

>>213997628
Do you live in India?

>>213986424
this DESU. Studios know their massive production budget grift is coming to an end. I bet this is their attempt at doing "one last job".

>>213995151
Don't forget Brave New World flopping too. The real budget is undoubtedly way, way higher than the reported budget considering it was delayed numerous times and it entered extensive reshoots like three times over an 18 month period.

What if in the end Antman enters Doom's anus

it will make a profit

You need White Fucking males that guys wish they could be, and women wish they could Fuck. But Disney doesn't want to do that anymore. Good luck with that!

>>213996502
Hello dolly

>>213996502
High School Musical being a piece of shit

>>213995566
Cleopatra killed the big historical epic

>>213996685
Yup. People forget this but initial ticket sales and hype for Infinity War were very low, it wasn't until it started getting good word of mouth that it finally starting doing good on the following weekends.

>>213997969
>its
kek.
lol.
lmao.
rofl.

>>213996841
Humiliation ritual.

>>213997933
Nope. Ben Hur remake did.

>>213986371 (OP)
Whats the source of this fake headline?

>>213987380
Think of all the warheads we could send to Israel to help kill more children... bros... the opportunity cost of these movies cannot be overstated...

>>213998067
See >>213997969 regurgitated with converted numbers.

>>213997582
Fair enough, Superman was alright. I still find it ironic how both made less money than objectively worse movies of years past that made a billie or close to it.

>>213988321
>capeshit isn't going anywhere for a long fucking time
aren't we saying that for ten years now ?

>>213986371 (OP)
This will be the Atari E.T. of the film industry. A total crash is incoming

This will be the DOOM of the superhero movie genre

>>213997969
WTF is a crore?

>>213986410
Bend over

>>213987030
What is he doing with all that money?

>>213998340
Not sure. Johnny Depp bought his own island.

>>213995247
>They go all out on 4th wall jokes with Deadpool, to the point it's the only thing he does
They already did that.

>>213986371 (OP)
Shouldn't these faggots have character models and sets ready to simply be copy and pasted?

Is this for Doomsday and Secret Wars? Is marketing and distribution budget(s) included in this?

>>213998370
bro think he epstein kek

>>213995247
>a giant rock crushes Doom's crotch
>""That's gotta hurt!"
>"AAAAHHH, RIGHT IN THE DOOM BALLS"

This movie is the Cleopatra of the capeshit era and will massively bomb. Might've killed the studio if it weren't for Avatar bux keeping it afloat.

They will never be able to replicate Thanos' appeal

>>213989100

>not showing her penis

it was almost perfect anon

>>213987380
not as much as you think it would do.

say we wanted to fund public schools more?
there's an estimated 90-100 thousand public schools in America. A billion would be around 10k each school.

Feed the hungry?
well the SNAP and WIC programs have a yearly budget of 99 billion and 7 billion respectively.
and honestly no one is dying of hunger in the US, the poor are fat. Even the homeless dont starve.

Infrastructure?
My state DOT (not even a well funded one) has a yearly budget of 3 billion, nationally that 1 billion would go instantly

Cancer research?
A billion is a drop in the bucket

anything els

>>213998515
Part of Thanos' appeal is seeing what would happen when all the infinity stones are gathered. It had a similar appeal to dragon ball and triforce pieces. They need to replicate something like that.

>>213988821

there's a reason it's called the 'sunk cost FALLACY'. They aren't going to keep pouring money down a hole

According to who? Where did they get the numbers, or is this just baseless extrapolation? You didn't even greentext the article you lazy fuck.

>>213987030
I love how everyone is a Hollywood accounted now. You don't know WHAT THE FUCK you are talking about, you are just guessing.

>>213998681
Aaaand /thread. This movie will be a tiny blip on Disn'eys pocketbook.

After taking hiatus from /tv/ after the summer blockbusters I got a say, the IQ on this board is much lower than the average of 4chan. Maybe it's because capeshit attracts kids and foreigners, but the discussion level on this board is levels below every other. Like, why are we even talking about a fake budget number from some chuckle fuck tabloid, and OP doesn't even green text the article. He just posts a screen shot, no context, and everyone bites. ABYSMAL.

>>213989154
So they've been failling miserably in the last three years or so.

Kang could've saved us from this...

>>213997353
not one of those SLOPS deserve to have the word "best" anywhere near it

>>213998793
>failing miserably
Gunn said himself that box office numbers are meaningless these days. It's all about digital sales.

>>213998436
little overlooked fact is that epstein had 2 islands

What will this board look like when it eventually releases?

Marvel and Doom are kino saar

>>213986371 (OP)
It won't. Marvel has neither the energy nor love from the people that it used to thanks to so many years of below mediocrity. Even Fantastic Four, the one people hyped up as the "this time for sure" film ended up being junk that nobody saw.

>>213989154
They wouldn't need to give RDJ 100 million dollars just to come back if that was even a little bit true or the brand was a profitable as it once was.

>>213988208
Yidsney is fucking suicidal

>>213999017
>that picture
Since he first debuted as a teen everyone expects him to always be super energetic and happy go lucky like a teen. But no one expects that of old actors like alec guiness, it's ok for them to not be a dancing monkey all the time.
RDJ is an older man, it's ok if he doesn't want to smile all the time.

>>213987380
That's like eight Indian Space Programs.

>>213986371 (OP)
Lies to manipulate the actual budget and profits

>>213986371 (OP)

Probably that bringing him back will bring the audience chunk that left with Iron man´s death at least out of curiosity to know why Doom is Tony Stark.

In reality this probably cheapens Tony´s death and proves there are no consequences in capeshit. I´m pretty sure they will play the Tony meeting her daughter again card for some cheap drama.

Sirs we got too cocky...

Why are the russos even behind this project still when they have gotten compromised with film Twitter waking up to how shit they actually are and all of their non MCU movies getting panned and flopping

>>213999216
>. I´m pretty sure they will play the Tony meeting her daughter again card for some cheap drama.
This was already done with Gamora

New Tony/Doom meets someone OG and said OG person will assume it's Tony but it's not
This has been played out in a lot of media and capeshit, being mistaken for another variant of yourself

>>213999241
RDJ refused to come back without the Russos, the Russos refused to come back without $40 million per film. The ultimate scam.

>>213999308
It's not a scam, it's called solidarity.

>>213986371 (OP)
this is how cape slop dies, it is a good thing

Most of that is the salaries for the arrogant and overrated actors. Its probably the combined budget for Doomsday and Secret Wars as they're being filmed back to back.


RDJ alone is $100mn base salary for both movies coming in 2026 and 2027 but also 20% of gross box office.
He already earned $600mn+ from the franchise.

/tv/:
>wahh culture is shit and everything is only capeshit!
>talks constantly about capeshit
>shits on everything that isn't capeshit
>posts complete bullshit click/rage bait about capeshit
>capeshit, capeshit, capeshit
I half believe this Avengers movie will make like 2 billion like Avatar just because of the brand name and RDJ and everyone caught in this online bubble of hating capeshit whilst being obsessed with it will seethe all over again.

>>213999535
There's nothing else to talk about though, barely any movies come out nowadays

>>213999535
Yeah, having 5+ constant Fishtank threads is TOTALLY better than gossiping capeshit threads.

Retard.

>>213999535
Make better non-capeshit threads instead of complaining, kiddo.

>>213999445
Based, i would do that too

>>213998606
pure sophistry

>>213999584
/tv/ literally refuses to watch/talk about anything other than Disney slop. A thread with a made up budget figure will hit bump limit.
>>213999614
What a shit whataboutism, as if I care about Fishtank. What a retarded comment. Quit being a gossiping faggot and grow up.
>>213999636
People just want to complain because complaining has become the new form of entertainment/community, if I go off and make non-capeshit threads, none of you will reply unless I frame it as bait and even if you do reply you won't have watched it because you don't watch non Disney shit.

Why did they add Pedro to this? Nobody liked him in Fantastic 4

>>213999445
>RDJ alone is $100mn base salary
Would they have given him that without his recent oscar win?

>>213999778
The Pedro insists upon itself.

Soon he will be in every movie ever made, even retroactively through edits.

>>213986371 (OP)
I can't wait to watch this shit crash and burn. There is absolutely zero chance that this makes its money back.

Isn't it funny how people on /tv/ eat up fake headlines like this and either actually believe they're real or pretend they're real just so they can have some funposting?

>>213988208
Thunderbolts could have been profitable had Disney not sacrificed it to save Lilo and Stitch, it was on track to profit before it got pulled from cinemas early to clear the schedule for the holiday weekend. The fact that Disney then went "we had almost lost faith in the live action remakes until lilo and stitch scratched a profit" shows there was some advanced jewery going on behind the scenes. Thunderbolts will be on disney+ later this week and will overshadow any discussion of F4 which is almost already forgotten, already with it just being released on digital people are saying they regret not seeing it in the cinema.

Haven't watched Marvel movies in a while
Where are Captain America, the Hulk, Thor and Iron Man?

>>213999964
>funposting
I wish it was funposting, unfortunately like only 1% of posters are in on the joke because there are too many rabid retards obsessed with this shit.

>>213999017
He looks so fucking done

>>213987380
A live action Justice League HBO show

>>213999125
Even Alec Guinness at his most bored looked like he was having a better go than RDJ does in that pic.

>>214000336
Man what the fuck happened to RDJ? Post Marvel he said he was done, Dolittle was a fucking massive bomb:
>Budget $175–192.4 million
>Box office $251 million
Although the rumour is it was a tax write off movie. Because 200 million for Dolittle? Then the guy did Oppenheimer, completely boring performance but at least gets the Oscar he wanted, although he was ready to kill Kimmel on the night for the jokes he made. Then despite saying on Joe Rogan he was completely done with Marvel he comes back for this shit. And we all know it is for a fat pay check.

>>214000180
Died of old age
Lame and unfunny, never does anything
Raising another man’s daughter on a different planet
Dead

>>214000458
The man was a classically trained Shakespearean actor who'd been in theatre for half a century. He radiated dignity

>>213995151
C-combined, right?

I don't know who the film is for

>>214000563
This film is a big course correction, it is all fan service leading to their universe reset.

>>213990418
More like the killing joke

>>213998297
A crore is 100 lakh, saaaaaaar.

>>213997248
doom is the best marvel villian, hickman also writes him better than anyone else so this scene is great.

>>213988276
Westerns were basically already dead by that point what Heaven's Gate did is kill the "auteur" driven New Hollywood. Capeslop flopping hard might actually do the opposite.

>>214000768
It will kill New Hollywood?

>>213988642
>China is boycotting all capeshit
Is it because of the us tariffs?

>>213986371 (OP)
They will pay any amount to jumpstart the franchise

>>213988642
>Let’s not forget China is boycotting all capeshit
Based chinks.

>>213996841
>>213997248
>>214000705

>>213987380
nah fuck that send hundreds of them to Ukraine to wipe out multiple generations of men to keep people who speak Russian not in Russia.

>>214000840
It will kill capeslop CGI jeetwood and may create some space for smaller, ambitiour productions.

Why can't they make small budget movies anymore, if they can spend billions on shit that will flop why can't they be arsed to spend a few million in something that might slightly make back their money

Jeets will love this

>>213986535
JEET*

>>214000563
It's basically No Way Home 2. All the characters/actors from the past are back. Expect it to make 3 billion at least.

>>214001004
We should send them to bomb Zelensky

>>213988642
Why do people keep dunking on Marvel box office when it's known that China isn't at play anymore, which would frequently account for ~20% of the worldwide sales? There would still be a drop from its peak of phase two and three, but not that bad considering how much garbage they've put out.

>>214001004
what an organic post, they will never know, saaaaar

>>214001059
For the small budget, auteur stuff you have to go to Disney+. Check out Wandavision and Loki.

>>213987380
The celebrity salaries notwithstanding producing a movie, especially a blockbuster from a major studio, employs thousands of people. It's fun for doomers to say that it's all just money laundering and the studio WANTS it to fail but it's simply not true.

>>214001266
Regardless of the reason, they're still making 20% less money.

>>213989371
I feel like you can't be certain about the streaming thing without knowing what the viewership is on there, and they don't release that info.

This is gonna suck so bad

>>213986371 (OP)
>>213988050
I think a great marketing tactic would be to plan out a budget of over $1 billion, tell everyone that's the budget to build up hype for it being the most expensive movie of all time, but then actually only spend a couple hundred million on it like normal. No one could call it false advertising or lying because they only said that was the budget, it just ended up that the actual spending came in $700 million under budget.

Goyslop

>>213986371 (OP)

I hope Robert Downey Jr stays on the wagon. Because those Avengers paychecks could buy him a lot of crack.

>>214001333
But that isn't their fault. Just like it isn't their fault that Disney decided to put everything on Disney+ a month after release, taking away a lot of people's urgency. And then you look at inflation + people's ability to behave with consideration for other people's experience at the theater (post-covid), turning people off from going even further. Nearly everything seems to be bringing in less than before.

>>213999759
See, no one replied faggot. I'd rather have capeshit threads than another Fishtank or Baskin spammer thread.
If you want quality threads, go back to /tv/ before 2012 because you sure as hell ain't getting that in 2025 with zoomers, third worlder ESLs having smartphones, and bad actors who are hellbent on spamming or shilling or false flagging this place.

>>214000705
>>214000937
See, it's powerwank for autists "nuh uh! my character is the most powerful character ever he's the best wizard and the best science and the strongest and the wisest and everyone loves him!"
Pathetic.

Disney is trying to speedrun the death of cinema so everyone buys Disney+

>>214002403
>speedrun the death of cinema
Netflix is so happy.

>>213988321
>Dude, the DCU reboot is only one movie in
And most people already don't care.

>>213986774
Bring back the Snyderverse.

>>214002791
Ben got too fat. Everyone got too old. Wishing can only go so far even though this post I'm replying is in jest.

>>213988208
All I seeing is in the green. Yes they are shit but it's positive.

And we all know capeslop is only there to make money.

>>214002791
>what if Superman was an actual cuck instead of just a figurative one
No.

>>213988484
Anon, cinemas don't work for free. Disney only gets 50-60% of the ticket price.

>>213986708
Thanos had even been shown in end scenes and hyped even from phase 1. Fans got hyped for nearly a decade to see Thanos. Yet I recall in phase 4 and 5 asking what the fuck the pay off was meant to be, and nobody knew.

>>214003060
You've been filtered, incel.