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Anonymous No.213999104 >>213999159 >>213999175 >>213999604 >>213999991 >>214000609 >>214001058 >>214002156 >>214002848 >>214003027 >>214006027 >>214006567 >>214006584 >>214006854 >>214007067
Hello /tv/ i want to into the Blade Runner universe. What version of first movie should I start with? Also what is a good watch order?
Anonymous No.213999159 >>213999554 >>213999649 >>213999733 >>214003098 >>214004981 >>214005113
>>213999104 (OP)
>What version of first movie should I start with?
Blade Runner Final Cut - don't bother with others

>Also what is a good watch order?
Release order

You're not supposed to /thread your own post but what I just wrote is the objective truth and anyone with a different opinion is a retard
Anonymous No.213999175 >>213999530
>>213999104 (OP)
>Also what is a good watch order?
Brother there's 2 movies... Watch 1 then 2?
Anonymous No.213999530 >>213999634
>>213999175
But there's like 4 other shorts and a anime
Anonymous No.213999554 >>213999591
>>213999159
Is the release order chronological? I like things that make sense..
Anonymous No.213999591
>>213999554
Yes, release order presents the story in chronological order
Anonymous No.213999604 >>213999695
>>213999104 (OP)
Watch Theatrical. You can watch the rest as curiosities if you want, but none of the rest is worth anything.
Anonymous No.213999634
>>213999530
Watch the movies and ignore everything else. You can also read the original novel for extra patrician points.
Anonymous No.213999649
>>213999159
fpbp, just watch final cut don't bother with the others. watch 2049 and then read electric sheep if you want but it's nothing like that movies. I think there was an animated show a few years ago but it got memory-holed so it must have been shit
Anonymous No.213999695 >>213999724
>>213999604
Don't listen to this guy, the theatrical version is the version that studio execs got their hands on and made them add a voiceover explaining the movie because they were afraid that moviegoers wouldn't get it and a final scene that doesn't match the tone of the movie because they thought audiences want a storybook Disney ending
Anonymous No.213999724 >>213999774
>>213999695
Shut the fuck up retard.
Anonymous No.213999733
>>213999159
Final cut is shit.
Anonymous No.213999774
>>213999724
t. too dumb to understand the movie without an expository voiceover at the end
Anonymous No.213999991 >>214001111
>>213999104 (OP)
I say there is no "Bladerunner Universe"
There are three versions of the original movie, the Theatrical Cut, Director's Cut, and Final Cut. Director's cut and Final Cut are mostly the same, you can look up the differences online.
Theatrical Cut has a voiceover narration.
Generally people consider the Theatrical version with the voiceover to be inferior. They say the VO ruins the atmosphere of the film - which is noir, with lots of Jazz and rainy smokey alleyways etc.
I think this is kinda true, but the Theatrical Cut also has a more overtly happy ending, and I like that personally. It's something I disagree with Ridley Scott on - although I agree with him on Deckard being a Replicant.
My ideal cut of the film would be the Theatrical version, mostly kept as it is, without the VO.

Which is to say, watch both: watch like maybe the Final Cut and the Theatrical version.
Any order will do.
Theatrical Cut VO is forced and has at least one current-year-double-plus-ungood trigger word, that starts with the letter "N", but I think it also gives some worthwhile insight.
As much as it's enjoyable to appreciate Bladerunner as a more purely visual experience, there is at least one instance where the VO gives insight into the philosophy driving the film.

Bladerunner 2049 is pretty bad imo. Soulless and sterile.
There's only one version of it, and I guess you could watch it: But I'm not going to recommend it.
I think there are a few official comics and a few anime, but frankly if you end up liking the original Bladerunner there are better non-Bladerunner things that do the Bladerunner vibe.

Better than the "Bladerunner Universe"
There is the philosophy that inspired it.
Why does Roy save Deckard?
Anonymous No.214000609 >>214000895 >>214000986
>>213999104 (OP)
There's no need to over think this - almost everyone agrees that starting with the Final Cut is best. Just deal with the arguing about controversies, which you ideally aren't privy to, later. Unfortunately people are already sperging and spoiling too much itt
There's also an alright adventure game by Westwood which you might want to check out though
Anonymous No.214000895 >>214001130
>>214000609
>There's also an alright adventure game by Westwood which you might want to check out though
I second this suggestion, the atmosphere of the movie was really well reproduced.
Anonymous No.214000986
>>214000609
You can play the game free on ScummVM too
Anonymous No.214001058 >>214001163
>>213999104 (OP)
Kinda unrelated, but a friend recently watched og blade runner and 2049, and wouldnt stop yapping about how good the sequel is and how he found the original so bad and boring. I didnt care, but it was hard not laughing to his face.
Blogpost over.
Anonymous No.214001111
>>213999991
This exactly, thxu based anon
Anonymous No.214001130
>>214000895
Eh...
They did do a good job of getting "the atmosphere" but I don't think the characters or story are anywhere near as good as the film.
It's something to play if you're a videogame head, but to me it's definitely side material.
Hardly even the best Bladerunner-esque experience in videogames.
Anonymous No.214001163
>>214001058
kids these days need something they can call their own so bad
Anonymous No.214001395 >>214001463
Directors Cut. final cut has too much digital fuckery imo. dont be turned off the theatrical cut because of its reputation. The voiceover is bad in someplaces but works in others. the final voiceover after battys speech is unnecessary tho. Bladerunner is entirely a mood film in my view. You are either with it or against it because storywise its nothing to write home about. Its greatest strength is its aesthetics and themes which allow you to get lost in the details. If you can get the box set with all the different cuts on ebay its worth it.
Anonymous No.214001463 >>214001719
>>214001395
>You are either with it or against it because storywise its nothing to write home about.
I dunno I'd disagree there.
It's not a complex story, simple plot stretched to accommodate its Noir approach, but I think it's quite a good story.
Better even than the PKD novel its based on.
Anonymous No.214001719
>>214001463

I think its simplicity is a strength but you could write out the beats of the plot on a post it note. There are other films with a high visual aesthetic which amplify the thriller tone and make the story more complex. These movies are very good but sometimes distract from the themes or just reduce them to window dressing. I think 2049 tried to create a more complex story but imo fell flat because its deficiencies became more apparent as it pushed its narrative forward. I would point to something like Dark City which has a good mix of both story and aesthetic values. That being said, Bladerunner has an aesthetic value which totally overwhelms that movie.
Anonymous No.214002156
>>213999104 (OP)
>What version of first movie should I start with?
You shouldn't, it's shit. Boring, ugly, devoid of them and emotion. Just terrible
Anonymous No.214002848 >>214003056
>>213999104 (OP)
>the Blade Runner universe
Nigger it's just 2 movies that barely resemble eachother.
Anonymous No.214003027
>>213999104 (OP)
Workprint, the rest are trash
Anonymous No.214003050
READ ELECTRIC SHEEP FIRST /THREAD
Anonymous No.214003056
>>214002848
There's also a game, a book, three or four shorts, and a shitty animated tv show, off the top of my head
Anonymous No.214003098 >>214004042
>>213999159
>Blade Runner Final Cut - don't bother with others
Based.

It's worth looking up the original tears in rain scene with voiceover just for a laugh
Anonymous No.214004042
>>214003098
>"Only now at the end of my incredibly short life do I realize that it is precious and filled with innumerable moments that are unique only to me and that its all led me to sparing you in the hope that you will value your own life with renewed interest and no longer take it for granted."
"I have no idea why this dumb replicant just spared my life."
Anonymous No.214004981 >>214005113 >>214005371
>>213999159
>don't bother with others
PLEB tier take
Black lotus and 2049 are much better than the OG 1st movie.
Anonymous No.214005113 >>214005350
>>213999159
>Blade Runner Final Cut - don't bother with others
Director's cut is better.
>>214004981
Brainrot.
Anonymous No.214005350
>>214005113
>Brainrot.
The first flick is a fucking romance flick you retard
Anonymous No.214005371
>>214004981
I meant "don't bother with other versions of Blade Runner", not "don't watch 2049"
Anonymous No.214005588 >>214006007
2049 is terrible no matter what anyone says. The directors vision is the equivalent to macbook; sleek but flat and lacking character. He not only fucked up Bladerunner but he also fucked up Dune. Its like watching the backdrop from some museum or digital exhibit but without the interactive part that gives it purpose.
Anonymous No.214006007 >>214006519
>>214005588
>The directors vision is the equivalent to macbook; sleek but flat and lacking character.
I don't understand how anyone can say this when comparing it to the original. The OG has terrible characters
Anonymous No.214006027
>>213999104 (OP)
>What version of first movie should I start with?
Oh, this won't be a mess of a thread.
Anonymous No.214006519
>>214006007

Im talking about aesthetics here. 2049 is desktop wallpaper. The characters might as well be in a cardboard diorama. They are all so po faced.
Anonymous No.214006567
>>213999104 (OP)
Stop being a reddit npc and make your own decisions
Anonymous No.214006584 >>214006748 >>214007189
>>213999104 (OP)
Reminder that Ridley Scott has said Alien and BR take place within the same universe
Weyland worked for Tyrell as an intern
Anonymous No.214006748 >>214007039
>>214006584
t. reddit
Anonymous No.214006854
>>213999104 (OP)
Blade Runner: Final Cut
Blade Runner 2049
Shorts
TV Series
Anonymous No.214007039
>>214006748
It makes sense when you know what those movies are actually about. Plus, insults don’t change what is essentially the word of god when it comes to Blade Runner
Anonymous No.214007067
>>213999104 (OP)
the one with the voice over is the superior version. Ignore what anyone else says.
Anonymous No.214007189
>>214006584

Stuff like this ruins the viability of both films.