Thread 213999234

>how dare you?!
>investigate suicides and accidents?!
>the mayor is on my ass!
>we need our clearance rate up!
>your so called “reasonable hunch based on an obvious pattern and suspicious circumstances” is completely uncalled for!
>what do you care if the wrong guy is on death row? We already cleared the case!
>put it down as a suicide and move on!

Do police departments really act like this? There must be thousands of undocumented murders.

>>213999234 (OP)
I’m reading the Dave Simon Homicide book but took a break halfway through. It’s very well written but it’s depressing and irritating how little the cases actually get solved
I’m sure that’s the intended effect

>>214000286
I wonder if it’s just a Baltimore thing

>>213999234 (OP)
That's the whole point of Homicide and The Wire. Imagine what they aren't telling you.

>>213999234 (OP)
I can only imagine how bad clearance rates were before DNA. You really had to fuck up during a murder (do it right in front of people) to get caught before DNA.

>>213999234 (OP)
Half of homicides go unsolved and stats matter to departments

>>213999234 (OP)
what show?

>cops barely help to lift to finger anything short of homicide
>half of homocides aren’t even solved

>>214001551
There’s something like a bazillion pieces of evidence and rape kits and stuff that never got tested for dna and went cold, just sitting around in evidence rooms

>>213999234 (OP)
I can't see Yaphet Kotto and think of anything other than Alien.

>>214001593
That show was so blackpilling because basically every single case was solved through random luck and the “great detectives” were simply the detectives who weren’t comically bad at their job

What if we simply allowed the murders so long as it only happens in the designated shithole?

>>213999234 (OP)
The Robin Williams episode took me the fuck out but otherwise great show. My boomer uncle insists this is a gay liberal show and NYPD Blue is the good one

>>214001672
It's funny how everyone universally agrees his idea was retarded but have nothing to say about the real life quarantine zones designed to keep druggies out of the nice parts of town

>>214001759
Bayliss’ journey to bisexuality was handled pretty nicely imo, after all his uncle did molest him as a kid so it’s not exactly an unforeseen development

>>214001791
I think that's why he feels that way, anything gay in the 90s was shocking

>>214001551
They would just frame someone or just decide to prosecute someone who looked guilty enough. That’s why you see so many people get exonerated based on DNA evidence.

Also think about the fact that TV and film really overhype DNA and it’s actually not as reliable evidence of guilt because DNA can easily transport from anywhere.

>>214001791
Wasn't he fucking some hot jap in a coffin early seasons?

>>214001597
It makes more sense when you realize the entire legal system is based on
>it's only illegal if you get caught
totally gives advantage to the accused. police policy is probably
>wouldn't be fair play at this point

>>213999234 (OP)
Wait till you find out cops irl are not actually required to protect and serve the public and there are court cases that clearly state this

>>214002065
>believing the ACAB meme
18+

>>213999234 (OP)
With regards to the bonus situation, I believe we deserve full shares. Right, baby?

>>214001584
The Bonus Situation: Life On The Street

>>214002268
Eat shit, bootlicker.
All cops and their enablers are scum, back to /pol/

>>213999234 (OP)
Simoncore is best copslop

>>214003586
Lick my balls you nigger loving kike.

>>214001904
DNA isn’t reliable because unless someone’s dna is already in the system it means nothing.

>>214003700
They’re catching more people using ancestral dna and those genealogy data bases these days. Imagine going down for murder because your aunt wanted to know if she could claim intersectional oppression

homicide thread, huh?

>>214003750
That’s happened like twice.

Adina Watson's killer is still walking free to this day

>>214003750
>i always knew i was part homicidal maniac

>>214003626
The state didn't tell you to say that, muppet. Back into your sponsored containment board before I tell the Supreme leader on your faggot ass

>>214003898
Strawberries! Raspberries!
Nice and sweet!
My price you can't beat!

Every day I'd see her walking

>>214004047
statutory rape!

>>214001397
not at all, national US clearance rate is like 60% and that includes all the people that shoot their wives or best friend and have open and shut cases. Clearance rate of urban black murders is probably like 30%

>>214004273
>he thinks ghetto murders aren’t open and shut

>>214004273
I loved her. I gotta live with that the rest of my life. A man my age. I loved......the one great love of my life......was an 11 -year-old girl

>>213999234 (OP)
Does this show fall off hard in the later seasons or does it hold up pretty well? I watched the first season and like half of the second a couple years ago. I was digging it pretty well, liked the whole vibe and the cast, and the arc about Adina's killer was very interesting. But I have heard a lot of the cast is replaced as it goes on and am not sure if that LEDs to things getting worse since I thought that was one of it's strong points.

>>214005016
falls off in season 6, but still watchable. Season 7 is trash

>>214005016
It falls off after season 4 but 5 and 6 have some great episodes too. 7 sucks because the cast shakeup and departure of Pembleton

>>213999234 (OP)
Reminds me of the flying farangs in Thailand. Western boomers and also some younger gens "falling" from apartment balconies at extraordinary rates. And a lot of the time, they conveniently signed over most of their assets to a local girlfriend or friend right before the "accident".

It’s almost always ruled as an accident, probably to pad stats to avoid negative press for their important tourism industry. And western media obviously does not give a single fuck about a bunch of alcoholic divorcees dying under suspicious circumstances on the other side of the planet

>>213999234 (OP)
Yes.
Cops, like everyone else, don't want to work.
They'll take any excuse that lets them call a case closed or shift the burden onto someone else.
This is why they spend most of their time lounging around giving out traffic tickets instead of pursuing real crime.
It's an easy low risk activity they can do to seem like they're working and they also happen to get a cut of the fines.
They don't get bonuses for catching murderers.

>>214004799
The trouble with ghetto murders is that although it's obvious that someone from Gang A killed a member of Gang B, you have to actually prove which one of them in particular did it.
Everyone in the neighborhood didn't see nothin' and if you get a description from a witness it matches every black man in a mile radius.

>>214005299
An added bonus of the laziness is that not catching repeat offenders keeps crime levels soemwhat stable, which adds to their job security. If crime in a city suddenly dropped 50%, a lot of cops would be made redunant and lose their jobs

>>214004799
I guess if your information source is having watched The Shield, that would be true. But 99% of police departments does not have some corrupt unhinged psycho running around the ghetto threatening to break peoples legs and plant evidence on them if they dont share information about the case

>>214004799
When no witnesses are willing to talk to the police it's pretty fucking hard to get a conviction.

>>214005752
>But 99% of police departments does not have some corrupt unhinged psycho running around the ghetto threatening to break peoples legs and plant evidence on them if they dont share information about the case

>>214005454

There's also the other part where it's assumed gang banger A is gonna get bumped off by someone else from gang b in the near future. (a generally safe assumption)

>>214005454
a ton of it is not actually "gang" related, it's just retarded ghetto nonsense
some guys get in a fight at the barbecue over a girl, one pulled out a gun and blasted 10 shots that didn't hit the guy he wanted to kill, wounded 7, and killed a grandma in the next house over. His friends don't rat on him and no one else knows him. No clearance.

>>214005923
Gang is just pc for black

>>214001641
For me it’s live and let die

>>214005861
The Vic Mackey hardass approach died with smartphones. Now ghetto dwellers pull out their smartphone and start filming the moment police approaches them, in part to protect themselves from potential dirty cops, and in part because if the cops do cross any legal lines, the lawsuit is like winning a lottery jackpot

>>214001584
proto wire aka Homicide. First 3 seasons are good

>>213999234 (OP)
I dunno what's the worst thing about that show:
The tired cliches?
The faux-documentary style camera work?
The endless personal drama and everyone constantly seething with anger?
The philosophical monologues?
The shitty comic relief character and his wacky observations?

>>214005501
That's another thing they love about traffic policing. It's endless. No matter how many tickets they give out it will never go away.
We could basically replace them with speed cameras and give out tickets consistently and fairly. It would actually give results because the cameras are always watching. People would slow down. With cops it's very unlikely to run into one, so policing is wildly inconsistent.
And that's exactly why speed cameras are so despised. Because everyone knows they would work and they don't want to get fined.
Also some places tune their speed cameras in bullshit ways to maximize fines, but that can be regulated against.

>>214006507
I mean if everyone went the speed limit where I’m at then traffic would be unbearable. The unspoken rule is to go 10-20 mph over. I’ve been driving next to police cars where we’re both going 85 in a 65

>>214006573
>10-20 mph over
10 over is my cap and only for highway speeds. 20 over is ridiculous.
I actually drive AT the speed limit and the only place where it's actually unbearable is where it drops down to like 20 mph.

>>213999234 (OP)
A lot of police forces in the western world (or anywhere which requires substantial evidence for a prosecution) take preventative measures on who they perceive, rightly or wrongly, to be potential criminals. This essentially involves targeted harassment done in a legal but obvious way (even involving the general public in some cases), to make the person feel they are being watched at all times. This has the effect of essentially neutralising the target, as even when the police pull the heat off, they will still be paranoid and less likely to commit a crime.

I'm certain this is what a lot of the people who talk about "gangstalking" are experiencing - the ones who aren't plain old schizos at least. It's kind of a watered down version of east Germany's zersetzung. These people have captured the attention of the police for whatever reason, maybe said the wrong thing online, or someone with a vendetta put an anonymous tip on them, and then they start getting people making it blatantly obvious they're being watched or followed next time they're outside.

>>214001672
Real talk, would that be so bad? Like if there was a few streets where drugs and murder were legal, all the degenerates would go there and kill eachother

>>214006873
What happens when someone abducts you from your home, drives you to murder street, and shoots you in the head?
>open and shut cast Johnson, this man came down to murder street and got murdered

>>214007515
Kidnapping charge

>>213999234 (OP)
Yes. Most Law Enforcement just want a case closed and to move on. Less work equals less hassle.

>>213999234 (OP)
Judges are the same. They don’t care about condemning innocent people or letting criminals go, they just want to get to their next golf game.

>>214007734
Society could be fixed by people pursuing careers for entirely aesthetic reasons

>>213999234 (OP)
I'm still furious that they made a beautiful remaster of this show and utterly fucked it up by replacing every song with stock music because they couldn't be bothered to clear any of the rights 30 years later.

>>213999234 (OP)
probably tens of thousands in america alone

>>214002268
you'd have to be under 18 or a boomer to not hate cops at this point
>>214003586
pol hates cops too

>>213999234 (OP)

after reading the thread i cant help but point out lots of these murders are committed against nigger criminals and lots of these nigger murderers keep murdering and do eventually get caught for one or other murder even if every murder isnt actually solved

do you really care that the state isnt spending huge amounts of time and money trying to solve who killed nigger crackhead#1175445?

>>214006507
we're supposed to be a democracy
so if everybody doesnt want speed cameras then we shouldnt have them, period
also its a huge burden to keep replacing them everytime somebody shoots them

>>214005752
>I guess if your information source is having watched The Shield, that would be true. But 99% of police departments does not have some corrupt unhinged psycho running around the ghetto threatening to break peoples legs and plant evidence on them if they dont share information about the case
and all our problems would be solved in a couple months if that were the case. rose tinted glasses but yeah cops basically cant act effectively like that and instead become paper pushers
>>214007924
>do you really care that the state isnt spending huge amounts of time and money trying to solve who killed nigger crackhead#1175445?
you should care though because theyre killing innocent people on the sidelines, creating a viscous endless cycle. your taxes are allowing it, your taxes should be, exterminating the problem and the root of the problem. this dismissive "meh" attitude is exactly whats wrong. and that kind of thinking allows the police department to become lazy and corrupt when they have such a bulk of cases and theyre not really doing anything about it besides secretarial work "oh demarcus shot up the street corner again, lemme write this down here and file it there"

>>214007808
they remastered this show?

>>214006507
literally everyone is a criminal you nigger retarded sociology 101 student. no shit people wouldnt like getting automatically charged with a crime every time they committed one. every time you went out to do literally anything it would result in a court case, fines, dealing with nigger cops etc

take a nitpick with the family? youre standing around getting tickets for littering. taking a family vacation? you sitting on the road getting tickets for missing a stop sign because youre not used to the area.

>>214008093
Yeah, for Peacock. Looks great but, like I said, not worth it without the original songs.

>>214008076
you can deal with nigger violence without dumping even more money into that black hole

i dont want people starving and it sucks that there really are deserving people on it but 99% welfare is a giant scam and i want it to stop. faggot cops dont need more money dumped into them, just ship niggers away to africa instead of giving them prison terms

>>214008049
yes, everybody hates niggers too

>>214006507
>We could basically replace them with speed cameras

Thank god for the sixth amendment so we’ll never have to live in your bootlicker nanny-state utopia.

>>214008164
cant you just add the dvd soundtrack? how far off can the audio be? i might do it for myself, thank you for the info

>>214008270
>i might do it for myself, thank you for the info

Please do and share it, I'd love to have that. I saw a person on the subr****t for Homicide claiming they were going to do the same and nothing ever came of it, but I think he did say something about the DVD track being off enough that it required quite a bit of editing. I haven't actually seen the remaster in motion, just screenshots, but I'd guess maybe some fade-to-black bits for ad breaks got cut or stuff was re-edited with different timing to accommodate the new soundtrack.

>>214008426
man this looks really crisp. i cant wait to watch it now.

>>214008492
Yeah I was pretty surprised with what they were able to do with it. It's worth pointing out that the first episode was released cropped and looks fucked up, why just that one I don't know, but every episode after is apparently fine.

Every police department should be allowed one Vic Mackey to strike fear into the hearts of niggers. Crime rates and nigger population levels would drop significantly.

>>214008679
Most police departments dont have niggers in their jurisdiction.

>>214008426
so the main theme is still there? its just the real songs from artists that are removed?

>>214008834
Yeah, any kind of memorable moment you can think of involving actual music (Peter Gabriel during the S3 police raid, Beck during the finale, Nine Inch Nails when Beau finds his wife gone etc.) is completely gone.