Thread 214021657

I don't get it: what's her problem? Does she really hate her son so much that she wants to see him dead?

She gave her family her life on a silver platter and this is the thanks she gets

>>214021657 (OP)
Now dont you talk like that!

>>214021670
Oh, poor her!

>>214021657 (OP)
She was a demon. The actress died before they could do anything with that plotline tho so David Chase opted for a more conventional approach, with only a few supernatural elements here and there.

>it's all a big nothing
>what makes you think you're so special?
she do be spittin trvkes doe

>>214021657 (OP)
She hated everyone in her life and she actively worked to make them miserable but tony didn't break and he still had a normal family so she hated him the most.

>>214021657 (OP)
>what's her problem?
THESE

BPD whore as an old lady.

>>214021657 (OP)
Depression genes. chemical imbalances

>>214021657 (OP)
Give it a rest

>>214021657 (OP)
some people are just like that

nothing you can do about it

>>214021657 (OP)
>Dr. Melfi believes Livia has undiagnosed borderline personality disorder.

>>214021684
It is pretty spooky
https://youtu.be/XXi_mVNeIb4?si=UJ9HBdpS5j9csM3N

>>214021657 (OP)
Her husband was a violent mobster who provided her with some reasonably nice things but also embarrassed her publicly by getting caught stealing, as well as abusing her and their kids, shooting a gun through her hair, and abandoning her while she had a life threatening miscarriage to go be with his mistress, a mistress whose whole lifestyle he was financing at the expense of her and their kids. When she sees her fat piece of shit son doing the same things, it understandably pisses her off

>>214022941
Johnny was a saint

>>214022941
based liv appreciator giving credit for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx76D_zbGyE

>>214021855
I thought the younger sister was the only normal Soprano

>>214021657 (OP)
just wait til you're abandoned

She was a hateful woman but I keep thinking back to when Kid Tony lies for his father to cover his indiscretions at the hospital, and I think that moment was a particularly harsh wound for her that she never allowed to heal.

>>214023181
Right, Livia sucked but Johnny was a horrible guy, and Tony and Janice inherited all the worst traits from both of them. Her and Junior are such great villains in the first season because you can 100% sympathize with them having to put up with pieces of shit like Tony and Christopher

>>214023136
Barbara is for loving breeding.

>>214021657 (OP)
I WISH THE LORD WOULD TAKE ME NOW

>>214021657 (OP)
My mother is an angel, but literally every single one of my friends mothers is Livia, and they are relatively succesful and some of them already are married

>>214023387
>Johnny was a horrible guy
he was a saint

livia was extremely j-woke

>>214021937
She was textbook NPD thoughbeit (vulnerable NPD which I suppose leans a little closer to the usual BPD, and admittedly NPD, BPD, and "acquired" ASPD are ultimately all the same "basal" disorder with different flavouring)

>GO SHIT IN YOUR HAT.
>liv, before Jr stole her one liner. Uncredited of course

what she didn't know could fill a book

>>214023136
She made the intelligent choice of getting away from it.
Marry a civilian, leave all family affairs to Tony, stay away from family drama, visit for holidays and birthdays.

>>214022218
The dream sequences were the best part of this show.

>>214021657 (OP)
David Chase hated his own mother irl. He said he didn't want to make the show until after she died.
Even in his 2012 film Not Fade Away, he depicts the mom as insufferable.

ITS ALL A BIG NOTHING

>>214021657 (OP)
Maybe she got sick as a kid and that fucked up her brain? My grandmother was a nasty piece of shit who both physical and mentally abused all her children (even tried killing one them once), she even tried doing it to me when I was younger until my parents cut off contact. We found out years later that she'd gotten sick with something as a kid (can't remember what it was called) and while she seemed like she had recovered it had actually fucked up her brain. Not that it mattered in the end, bitch went into the ground with no-one to mourn her.

>>214027888
The show did subtle surreality perfectly.

>>214028109
That dream where Tony was gonna kill his highschool coach and was trying to load bullets into the magazine and they just kept melting caused a visceral reaction in me. Like those dreams where you're trying to punch someone and it feels like your arms are made out of spaghetti.

>>214027888
nice digits and yeah, the sheer banality, how straight every single actor plays it while nothing going on makes sense. I've never seen a piece of media so accurately represent dreams the way Sopranos did it

>>214028294
One of my favorite scenes of all time.
>I was just shining you on, 'cause that's what I do!
One of the only times Tony told the truth.

>>214021684
>She was a demon.

You're telling me that Tony Soprano was half-demon? Shit, that would explain his staggering strength despite his lack of exercise and his unusual charisma.

>>214027888
>The dream sequences were the best part of this show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bgi3z4M-Mo
Him looking out at the light always gets me

>walk into place of business
>see this
what do?

>>214028294
I tried to rape a woman in a dream but I couldn't.

Its called narcissistic personality disorder and if you ever had the displeasure of knowing or worse, being related to one of these pieces of human garbage, you would know.

>>214029209
That wasn't a dream and you're now wanted for questioning.

>>214029426
20 years in the can for rape and not a fuckin' peep.

>>214029087
Don't you mean this?

>>214029087
lunge at her feet

>>214026762
Always made me think of covert narcissism. Junior said it best, "She's like a woman with a Virginia ham under her arm, crying the blues 'cause she has no bread."

>>214021679
I don't like that kind of tawk!

>>214021657 (OP)
One of the best cases of BPD and narcissism ever portrayed in television and film

>>214022218
unironically one of the spoopiest things i've seen